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Friday, October 30, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: Fw: Any comment !



I know of an example in Bangladesh where a Hindu father in law was found in bed with the wife of his son. Her husband committed suicide. She was compensated with a multi storied house. She was later married to a former Muslim colleague of mine.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 6:14 AM, Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

I wonder how the land of the barbarians became 'holy land'. Is there a more unholy land in the world?



On Friday, October 30, 2015 6:37 PM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
This is exactly the culture under which Islam grew some 1400 years ago. The location of this story is not far from Makkah and Madina. The mind set of these people had not changed at all over the centuries. There are incidences in Islam where one look at the girl can propel the over-sexed man to try to marry the girl!

- AR



On Friday, 30 October 2015, 2:15, "Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
----- Forwarded Message -----
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Father wanted to call off engagement, ends up marrying bride's sister
Published: 11:51 October 18, 2015

Manama: A Saudi man in his 70s has come under intense criticism on social media for marrying the sister of his son's bride.
In a drama that challenges the most complex fiction scenarios, the old man went to the home of a family in Al Qunfudha, a city in the Tihamah region on the Red Sea, to call off the engagement of his son to their daughter, but ended up blessing the marriage and asking to marry her sister.
The son had been harshly criticised by his wife and his own mother for planning to take a second wife.
The son explained that he had fallen in love with the woman and wanted to marry her. His first wife opposed the marriage and threatened to divorce him, while his mother supported her and told his son she did not want him to take a second wife. The father joined them and threatened to cut off his son if he did not change his mind.
However, the son insisted he was in love with the second woman, went ahead with his plans and asked her to marry him, Saudi daily Okaz reported.
Both the first wife and the mother refused the son's engagement decision and insisted on his father to go to the would-be bride's home and call off the engagement in an appropriate manner.
The father acquiesced and went to the house to apologise to the family.
However, as he was sitting with the father in their living room, he noticed a woman who handed some drinks to be served.
The septuagenarian asked if the woman was the one his son wanted to marry, but her father said that she was her sister. He added that she was a divorcee and that she was 30 years old.
The septuagenarian in a dramatic reverse of his position said that he came to finalise the procedures for the marriage of his son and that he wanted to marry the woman he had just seen.
The women's father said that he agreed to the request.
"Usually when a man reaches 50, he eases into a simpler life where religion and compassion have a more significant role," a blogger, writing under the moniker P71, said. "The man becomes more pious and tries to provide for his wife all the things she has missed. Unfortunately, this man seems to be obsessed with other things, moving away from his wife for a younger woman. This is totally unfair and purely egoistic of this old man."
Nawaf said the septuagenarian was "dangerous."
"One look was enough for him to change his mind and to reverse his decision, affecting the lives of other people and families," he said. "This man is dangerous."
For Saroona, another blogger, a huge mistake was being made.
"Some men may think that this septuagenarian is a hero for daring to take a second wife who is much younger than him," she said. "This is not virility. This is an old man who needs someone to look after him and to take care of him. I know many women married to old men who keep dreaming about younger men and a happier life. This is terribly wrong," she said.
Al Haqbani said the marriage should not be allowed.
"This is totally ridiculous," he said. "He is in his 70s and she is 30.
There are 40 years of age difference. How is he going to handle the situation? This should not happen."










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Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: Fw: A New World Order is emerging from the Middle East



Is America, or the West in general, really up to democracy in the Middle East? Aren't they big time supporters of the dictators of that land, including the Saudi and the Qatari kings? I think the West is confused about what to do with their self-interest involving the Arabs and the Persians. 



On Friday, October 30, 2015 6:36 PM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
A very well thought out article. What the author of the article is saying is what is the most likely outcome in the Middle East. America has lost its moral compass. No country can impose "democracy" in another country by force, not even by America. America is in retreat.

- AR 



On Friday, 30 October 2015, 2:14, "Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/10/27/A-New-World-Order-is-emerging-from-the-Middle-East.html

A New World Order is emerging from the Middle East

Tuesday, 27 October 2015

This year is seeing the most drastic reshaping of the geopolitics of the Middle East possibly since WW2. Certainly since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Everything is in flux. Russia and Iran are pushing out the U.S. and NATO in Syria, Iran is already leading the Shiite war effort in Iraq, and the Iraqi government is now considering inviting military assistance from Russia against ISIS as well. This after the hundreds of billions of dollars that the U.S. has spent on the country. Across the entire Fertile Crescent, the U.S. and its allies are being almost entirely marginalized. As are their interests.
Further to the South, lay the traditional allies of the U.S. in the region: Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. These alliances still hold – for now. Though there is obviously no love lost between the U.S. and these countries. None of the governments of these countries now trust the U.S. The Egyptian government is still caught up in the ambivalence of the West between its desire for democracy in the region and its desire for stability and for secular governance. The détente between the U.S. and Iran on the Iranians' nuclear program has led to Saudi alarm. And the Israelis are hunkering down in their metaphorical bunker as the world around them descends into chaos, and the flames of war are starting to spread to the occupied territories.
To the east, Afghanistan is once again in total chaos, with the Taliban emerging as the most likely group to prevail in the country. And Pakistan, formerly the U.S.'s most reliable ally in the region, is being absorbed into the Chinese sphere of influence with the help, once again, of the Iranians. In fact, one could argue, the entire East is being reshaped geopolitically according to the needs of Chinese commerce: pipelines from Russia to China, pipelines from Iran to Pakistan paid for by the Chinese, railways and road infrastructure built by the Chinese in South East Asia in Myanmar to connect them to the deep water port in Kyaukpyu, to the south west with the trade corridor through Pakistan to connect them to the deep water port of Gwadar, and across the whole of Central Asia, as China is rebuilding the Silk Road.

Muscling in

Russia, Iran and China are muscling in on the Middle East, and so far it seems that the U.S. and Europe have neither the capacity, nor the will, to do anything about it. The American Century, at least in the Middle East, seems well and truly over. How did it come to this?
For one, the U.S. has taken the eye off the ball. Invading Afghanistan in the aftermath of 9/11 could have perhaps worked, on its own. The U.S. was able to bring its allies along, and there was a great deal of good will towards the American war aims at the time. But all that was squandered with the insane decision to also invade Iraq. That war clearly overstretched U.S. forces and allowed Iran, Russia and eventually China to flex their muscles in their regional spheres of influence against U.S. interests.
The initial response of the Obama administration to the catastrophic consequences of the Bush-era warmongering was to pursue a more liberal, international law approach to geo-politics. It was the only way that the U.S. could have sustained its status in the international arena. But by then it was already too late. The U.S. had long lost the moral authority to call on other countries to obey international norms, and no longer had the strength to enforce even a semblance of international law. Its rivals had smelled blood and tasted success. And so, when the Middle East became destabilized in the wake of the Arab Spring, the others pounced. And now, China is carving up the East, Russia the Levant, and Iran every country in its neighborhood and around the Jordan River.
Just how the situation will look when the dust settles it is impossible to know. But it is almost certain that there will be very little room left for the U.S. or its European allies in the region. And with that, our access to oil and gas will never be safe or secure ever again. Transitioning to alternative sources of energy is no longer just a matter for the Climate Change "hippies". It should be the highest priority even for the most hawkish neo-conservatives.
___________
Azeem Ibrahim is an RAI Fellow at Mansfield College, University of Oxford and Research Professor at the Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College. He completed his PhD from the University of Cambridge and served as an International Security Fellow at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard and a World Fellow at Yale. Over the years he has met and advised numerous world leaders on policy development and was ranked as a Top 100 Global Thinker by the European Social Think Tank in 2010 and a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum. He tweets @AzeemIbrahim










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Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: Fw: Any comment !



I wonder how the land of the barbarians became 'holy land'. Is there a more unholy land in the world?



On Friday, October 30, 2015 6:37 PM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
This is exactly the culture under which Islam grew some 1400 years ago. The location of this story is not far from Makkah and Madina. The mind set of these people had not changed at all over the centuries. There are incidences in Islam where one look at the girl can propel the over-sexed man to try to marry the girl!

- AR



On Friday, 30 October 2015, 2:15, "Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From:  To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 1:37 AM
Subject: Any comment !
 

Father wanted to call off engagement, ends up marrying bride's sister
Published: 11:51 October 18, 2015

Manama: A Saudi man in his 70s has come under intense criticism on social media for marrying the sister of his son's bride.
In a drama that challenges the most complex fiction scenarios, the old man went to the home of a family in Al Qunfudha, a city in the Tihamah region on the Red Sea, to call off the engagement of his son to their daughter, but ended up blessing the marriage and asking to marry her sister.
The son had been harshly criticised by his wife and his own mother for planning to take a second wife.
The son explained that he had fallen in love with the woman and wanted to marry her. His first wife opposed the marriage and threatened to divorce him, while his mother supported her and told his son she did not want him to take a second wife. The father joined them and threatened to cut off his son if he did not change his mind.
However, the son insisted he was in love with the second woman, went ahead with his plans and asked her to marry him, Saudi daily Okaz reported.
Both the first wife and the mother refused the son's engagement decision and insisted on his father to go to the would-be bride's home and call off the engagement in an appropriate manner.
The father acquiesced and went to the house to apologise to the family.
However, as he was sitting with the father in their living room, he noticed a woman who handed some drinks to be served.
The septuagenarian asked if the woman was the one his son wanted to marry, but her father said that she was her sister. He added that she was a divorcee and that she was 30 years old.
The septuagenarian in a dramatic reverse of his position said that he came to finalise the procedures for the marriage of his son and that he wanted to marry the woman he had just seen.
The women's father said that he agreed to the request.
"Usually when a man reaches 50, he eases into a simpler life where religion and compassion have a more significant role," a blogger, writing under the moniker P71, said. "The man becomes more pious and tries to provide for his wife all the things she has missed. Unfortunately, this man seems to be obsessed with other things, moving away from his wife for a younger woman. This is totally unfair and purely egoistic of this old man."
Nawaf said the septuagenarian was "dangerous."
"One look was enough for him to change his mind and to reverse his decision, affecting the lives of other people and families," he said. "This man is dangerous."
For Saroona, another blogger, a huge mistake was being made.
"Some men may think that this septuagenarian is a hero for daring to take a second wife who is much younger than him," she said. "This is not virility. This is an old man who needs someone to look after him and to take care of him. I know many women married to old men who keep dreaming about younger men and a happier life. This is terribly wrong," she said.
Al Haqbani said the marriage should not be allowed.
"This is totally ridiculous," he said. "He is in his 70s and she is 30.
There are 40 years of age difference. How is he going to handle the situation? This should not happen."









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[mukto-mona] Fw: ফেনীতে লাথির চোটে মায়ের পেটেই শিশুর মৃত্যু: Its simply killing





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Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: Fw: Any comment !



This is exactly the culture under which Islam grew some 1400 years ago. The location of this story is not far from Makkah and Madina. The mind set of these people had not changed at all over the centuries. There are incidences in Islam where one look at the girl can propel the over-sexed man to try to marry the girl!

- AR



On Friday, 30 October 2015, 2:15, "Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From:  To:
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 1:37 AM
Subject: Any comment !
 

Father wanted to call off engagement, ends up marrying bride's sister
Published: 11:51 October 18, 2015

Manama: A Saudi man in his 70s has come under intense criticism on social media for marrying the sister of his son's bride.
In a drama that challenges the most complex fiction scenarios, the old man went to the home of a family in Al Qunfudha, a city in the Tihamah region on the Red Sea, to call off the engagement of his son to their daughter, but ended up blessing the marriage and asking to marry her sister.
The son had been harshly criticised by his wife and his own mother for planning to take a second wife.
The son explained that he had fallen in love with the woman and wanted to marry her. His first wife opposed the marriage and threatened to divorce him, while his mother supported her and told his son she did not want him to take a second wife. The father joined them and threatened to cut off his son if he did not change his mind.
However, the son insisted he was in love with the second woman, went ahead with his plans and asked her to marry him, Saudi daily Okaz reported.
Both the first wife and the mother refused the son's engagement decision and insisted on his father to go to the would-be bride's home and call off the engagement in an appropriate manner.
The father acquiesced and went to the house to apologise to the family.
However, as he was sitting with the father in their living room, he noticed a woman who handed some drinks to be served.
The septuagenarian asked if the woman was the one his son wanted to marry, but her father said that she was her sister. He added that she was a divorcee and that she was 30 years old.
The septuagenarian in a dramatic reverse of his position said that he came to finalise the procedures for the marriage of his son and that he wanted to marry the woman he had just seen.
The women's father said that he agreed to the request.
"Usually when a man reaches 50, he eases into a simpler life where religion and compassion have a more significant role," a blogger, writing under the moniker P71, said. "The man becomes more pious and tries to provide for his wife all the things she has missed. Unfortunately, this man seems to be obsessed with other things, moving away from his wife for a younger woman. This is totally unfair and purely egoistic of this old man."
Nawaf said the septuagenarian was "dangerous."
"One look was enough for him to change his mind and to reverse his decision, affecting the lives of other people and families," he said. "This man is dangerous."
For Saroona, another blogger, a huge mistake was being made.
"Some men may think that this septuagenarian is a hero for daring to take a second wife who is much younger than him," she said. "This is not virility. This is an old man who needs someone to look after him and to take care of him. I know many women married to old men who keep dreaming about younger men and a happier life. This is terribly wrong," she said.
Al Haqbani said the marriage should not be allowed.
"This is totally ridiculous," he said. "He is in his 70s and she is 30.
There are 40 years of age difference. How is he going to handle the situation? This should not happen."







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Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: Fw: A New World Order is emerging from the Middle East



A very well thought out article. What the author of the article is saying is what is the most likely outcome in the Middle East. America has lost its moral compass. No country can impose "democracy" in another country by force, not even by America. America is in retreat.

- AR 



On Friday, 30 October 2015, 2:14, "Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
----- Forwarded Message -----
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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/10/27/A-New-World-Order-is-emerging-from-the-Middle-East.html

A New World Order is emerging from the Middle East

Tuesday, 27 October 2015

This year is seeing the most drastic reshaping of the geopolitics of the Middle East possibly since WW2. Certainly since the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Everything is in flux. Russia and Iran are pushing out the U.S. and NATO in Syria, Iran is already leading the Shiite war effort in Iraq, and the Iraqi government is now considering inviting military assistance from Russia against ISIS as well. This after the hundreds of billions of dollars that the U.S. has spent on the country. Across the entire Fertile Crescent, the U.S. and its allies are being almost entirely marginalized. As are their interests.
Further to the South, lay the traditional allies of the U.S. in the region: Israel, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. These alliances still hold – for now. Though there is obviously no love lost between the U.S. and these countries. None of the governments of these countries now trust the U.S. The Egyptian government is still caught up in the ambivalence of the West between its desire for democracy in the region and its desire for stability and for secular governance. The détente between the U.S. and Iran on the Iranians' nuclear program has led to Saudi alarm. And the Israelis are hunkering down in their metaphorical bunker as the world around them descends into chaos, and the flames of war are starting to spread to the occupied territories.
To the east, Afghanistan is once again in total chaos, with the Taliban emerging as the most likely group to prevail in the country. And Pakistan, formerly the U.S.'s most reliable ally in the region, is being absorbed into the Chinese sphere of influence with the help, once again, of the Iranians. In fact, one could argue, the entire East is being reshaped geopolitically according to the needs of Chinese commerce: pipelines from Russia to China, pipelines from Iran to Pakistan paid for by the Chinese, railways and road infrastructure built by the Chinese in South East Asia in Myanmar to connect them to the deep water port in Kyaukpyu, to the south west with the trade corridor through Pakistan to connect them to the deep water port of Gwadar, and across the whole of Central Asia, as China is rebuilding the Silk Road.

Muscling in

Russia, Iran and China are muscling in on the Middle East, and so far it seems that the U.S. and Europe have neither the capacity, nor the will, to do anything about it. The American Century, at least in the Middle East, seems well and truly over. How did it come to this?
For one, the U.S. has taken the eye off the ball. Invading Afghanistan in the aftermath of 9/11 could have perhaps worked, on its own. The U.S. was able to bring its allies along, and there was a great deal of good will towards the American war aims at the time. But all that was squandered with the insane decision to also invade Iraq. That war clearly overstretched U.S. forces and allowed Iran, Russia and eventually China to flex their muscles in their regional spheres of influence against U.S. interests.
The initial response of the Obama administration to the catastrophic consequences of the Bush-era warmongering was to pursue a more liberal, international law approach to geo-politics. It was the only way that the U.S. could have sustained its status in the international arena. But by then it was already too late. The U.S. had long lost the moral authority to call on other countries to obey international norms, and no longer had the strength to enforce even a semblance of international law. Its rivals had smelled blood and tasted success. And so, when the Middle East became destabilized in the wake of the Arab Spring, the others pounced. And now, China is carving up the East, Russia the Levant, and Iran every country in its neighborhood and around the Jordan River.
Just how the situation will look when the dust settles it is impossible to know. But it is almost certain that there will be very little room left for the U.S. or its European allies in the region. And with that, our access to oil and gas will never be safe or secure ever again. Transitioning to alternative sources of energy is no longer just a matter for the Climate Change "hippies". It should be the highest priority even for the most hawkish neo-conservatives.
___________
Azeem Ibrahim is an RAI Fellow at Mansfield College, University of Oxford and Research Professor at the Strategic Studies Institute, U.S. Army War College. He completed his PhD from the University of Cambridge and served as an International Security Fellow at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard and a World Fellow at Yale. Over the years he has met and advised numerous world leaders on policy development and was ranked as a Top 100 Global Thinker by the European Social Think Tank in 2010 and a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum. He tweets @AzeemIbrahim








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