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Sunday, October 11, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] দাদরি:রাষ্ট্র



Religion is rubbish. Children of Abraham are concerned about prepuce and pigs, while those of Rama are about cows.  Herodotus described forbidding cow slaughter as an Egyptian tradition, though oxen could be consumed but not their heads. Golden calf was worshiped by the followers of Ma-mun, God of wealth, much more powerful than Amen, whose nature could not be revealed.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Dr. Bain, I think you misunderstood my comments:

1) The incident in India, where a poor Muslim fellow was killed for eating beef, is not defendable. I called the killer(s) as murderers, and asked for the highest punishment under the law of the land. That was my humanistic judgment. I hope that's clear now.
Actually, Hindu-majority country did not assign such barbaric punishment, it was the mob justice  that did such punishment, which is unlawful and I am sure mobsters will get due punishment.
I also tried to reflect on the unfortunate issue beyond that. So, I pondered - why this poor fellow ventured into this highly risky act.
If we say Muslims have the right to eat beef, what will happen to the right of the Hindus, who warship cows. Like it or not, law is on the side of the Hindus here. 
2) If you want to pass opinion on religious sentiment, you need to know where the sentiment comes from, and the logical way to find out is by reading scriptures. That's not an outrageous proposal, is it? 
3) What's barbarian about the law that prevents slaughtering cow?  I don't like killing animals for food, although I eat meat, unfortunately.
Jiten Roy 


From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:07 PM

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] দাদরি:রাষ্ট্র

 
I am surprised to see that nobody else in this forum felt responding to Dr. Roy's comments of October 9 (below). What Dr. Roy has said/implied are as follows:

1) If hurting Muslim sentiments in a Muslim-majority country leads to barbaric punishments, it is OK for a Hindu-majority country to give barbaric punishments to people for hurting Hindu religious sentiments.

2) Atheists need to read Hindu religious garbage and understand the religious sentiments of the Hindus.

3) The Hindu-majority can make/keep unjust/barbarian laws in their country, and it would be none of an outsider's business.

Let me just say that I am deeply disappointed with Dr. Roy, because I thought that he was a humanist.


Sukhamaya Bain

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On Friday, October 9, 2015 11:06 PM, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I have just corrected a typo in my last post. As for Dr. Roy's comments, let me wait to see what other people in this forum think.

SuBain

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On Friday, October 9, 2015 6:46 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Try to hurt religious feelings of Muslims in a Muslim majority country; you will find who goes there for you first, police or Mob.

Also, who will make the determination as to what is a reasonable act for hurting one's religious feelings. Obviously, it has to a religious person, and not an atheist, like you.
I don't think you know the Hindu sentiment about cows. Please read their religious scriptures to find out what 'cow' represents in the scripture, before rushing to conclusion about slaughtering cows in a majority Hindu country. Again, the law is for the citizen of that country; it's not about what you or I think about this matter.
Also, I don't think Christian can demand selling pork meat in the open markets of the Muslim countries. I know, they will not even ask for it, because it will hurt the religious feelings of Muslims, and they will be lynched for sure.
Your suggestion for Hindus to buy all cows to save them from slaughter house is quite absurd and ridiculous.
Sorry!
Jiten Roy

 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] দাদরি:রাষ্ট্র

 
Well, Dr. Roy, you wrote "could be lynched or persecuted." As I already wrote, if beef ban was the law (a stupid and unjust law anyway), the police could go to that house with a warrant (search or arrest); but the mob had no business there. Lynching or persecution should not have been expected from a civilized state/population.

If billions of Hindus have a religious sentiment for cows, they should try to buy up all the cows with fair market price and handle them with whatever reverence they have for the cows. If they are civilized human beings, they would not have any right to persecute anyone for slaughtering his cow and eating its meat. Yes, slaughtering cows should not be banned by any state of a modern, civilized and fair country, as long as eating meat is not a crime anywhere in the world, including in India. Again, if the Hindu majority of India wish to minimize the slaughtering of cows, they should try to buy up all the cows for fair price; they should put their money where their stupid mind is. They probably  would not be able to totally stop it; because not all non-Hindus would be likely to sell their cows even for fair or higher-than-fair market price.

Hurting religious sentiments is a matter of first to decide on what is reasonable for a sentiment. Let me give an example. If someone slaughters a cow in front of a Hindu temple, that would be like hurting a Hindu religious sentiment. But if a cow is slaughtered on a non-Hindu's property without displaying the gore or cruelty to the animal to the public or to a non-consenting guest, that should not be treated as hurting anyone's religious sentiment. However, when a religious sentiment goes against people's human and citizenship rights, that sentiment should be ditched without caring about what religion it came from.

Sukhamaya Bain

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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 11:01 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Dr. Bain, remember, I am not talking about what right or wrong here; I am simply saying - transporting beef or keeping beef in the house in a state, where beef is banned is a risky business and punishable by law. It's like keeping banned item in your possession. Yet, people will venture into that territory in spite of the risk. Those who do so may be doing it to protest against ban or something.
If you want to eat beef in the state, where it is banned, that's a violation of law. In order to eat beef there, you have to, first, change the law in that state or you have to go to a state where beef eating is not banned.  That's what is logical argument should be. I don't know what's your argument is in this case.
You are not taking into account that - there is a strong religious feeling for cows among billions of Hindus. It does not matter what's your opinion about it. That's the fact. 
Did you give a thought about it before saying that slaughtering cows should be allowed all over India, where 85% are Hindus? Definitely not. 
You think non-Hindus should be given the right to hurt religious feelings of billions of Hindus there, but, you don't want to give Hindus the similar right to hurt religious feelings of the non-Hindus there. These are all logical arguments, you should have taken into account before objection to my argument.    
Jiten Roy
 

 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] দাদরি:রাষ্ট্র

 
I find Dr. Roy's 'flipside' statement illogical and highly objectionable. The gentleman who was murdered surely did not think that he had a risk of being lynched for keeping beef in his fridge; he most likely did not think that Hindus could be that kind of barbarians. He should not have been persecuted in any way for keeping or eating beef. It is a shame on the Indian pluralistic democracy to have a beef ban in quite a few of the country's provinces. India needs to educate/civilize its Hindus in this regard and lift all the bans on eating beef. In this regard, all they could demand as sensible people is that cow and other animals should be slaughtered in facilities that are hygienic and away from public views.

Dr. Roy's 'flipside' statement sounds like the murdered Muslim gentleman and his family were guilty of something. They were not guilty of any crime here; and the barbarian Hindu mob had no business of demanding to know what people kept in their fridge. If that province had a beef ban, the police had to get a warrant to search that house. Again, of course, there should have been no such ban, and all sensible people should have objected even the police searching that house for that purpose.

It is extremely disappointing that the police took samples of the meat to find out if it was beef or mutton. They should be prosecuted for doing that. They would have had a valid reason to take the sample only if that meat were suspected to be human meat.

SuBain

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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 7:33 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
[Attachment(s) from Jiten Roy included below]
Killing over beef eating is insanity, and murderer(s) should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
On the flipside, this also shows – how far someone will go to eat beef, knowing that he/she could be lynched or persecuted for doing so.
Had anybody been lynched for similar incidents while congress was in power?
I believe there must be many, but not too many heard of them. Why is it now such a national movement and an international story? It's because - BJP is in power now, and Modi is extremely popular.
Opposition has exhausted all political cards against him, nothing worked. They are, now, left with only one card, which is 'communality,' and BJP is vulnerable to it. 
Unfortunate sacrificial lambs of this communal politics games are religious minorities. Unknowingly, they will participate without realizing why they are doing so.
Incidentally, beef politics is also going on full-fledged in Bangladesh, where, recently, some people slaughtered cow on the Hindu temple ground. Politics of beef everywhere.
Jiten Roy

 

From: "'Jamal G. Khan' M.JamalGhaus@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 2:20 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] দাদরি:রাষ্ট্রপতির খেই ধরেই মুখ খুললেন মোদী

 

হিন্দু-মুসলিম এক হোক, দাদরির পর মুখ খুললেন মোদী

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দাদরি:রাষ্ট্রপতির খেই ধরেই মুখ খুললেন মোদী

সংবাদ সংস্থা

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'দায়'টা চাপিয়ে দিলেন রাজনীতিকদের কাঁধে। আর 'দায়িত্বের বোঝা'টা চাপালেন দেশের মানুষের ওপর। দাদরির ঘটনার ১২ দিন পর এভাবেই নীরবতা ভাঙলেন প্রধানমন্ত্রী নরেন্দ্র মোদী।
সাম্প্রদায়িক সম্প্রীতি বজায় রাখার 'দায়িত্ব'টা যে শুধুই দেশবাসীর, সে কথা মনে করিয়ে দিয়ে প্রধানমন্ত্রী মোদী বলেছেন, ''আমি হিন্দুদের বলেছি, ওঁরাই ঠিক করুন, লড়াইটা ওঁরা কার বিরুদ্ধে করবেন। লড়াইটা কি ওঁরা মুসলিমদের বিরুদ্ধে করবেন? নাকি, ওঁরা লড়বেন দারিদ্রের দূরীকরণে? এই একই কথা আমি মুসলিমদেরও বলেছি। আবারও বলছি, হিন্দু, মুসলিম এক জোট হয়ে দারিদ্রের বিরুদ্ধে লড়াই করুন। অপ্রীতিকর ঘটনা নিয়ে কোথাও কোনও মন্তব্য করবেন না। চুপচাপ বাড়ি ফিরে যাবেন।''
সাম্প্রদায়িক সম্প্রীতি নষ্ট করার 'দায়'টা যাঁদের, সেই রাজনীতিকদেরও বিঁধেছেন প্রধানমন্ত্রী। বলেছেন, ''আমি বলতে চাইছি, শুধুই রাজনীতির জন্য, রাজনৈতিক লাভালাভের জন্য কেউ কেউ দায়িত্বজ্ঞানহীনের মতো মন্তব্য করছেন। আমি দেশের মানুষকে এই সব কথায় কান না দিতে বলছি। যদি আমি নরেন্দ্র মোদী কখনও ওই ধরনের কিছু বলে ফেলি, তা হলে বলব, আপনারা আমার কথাতেও কান দেবেন না। যদি কারও কথায় কান দিতেই হয়, তা হলে রাষ্ট্রপতিজি (প্রণব মুখোপাধ্যায়) কাল যা বলেছেন, সেটাই মাথায় রাখুন। রাষ্ট্রপতিজিই আমাদের পথ দেখিয়েছেন। আমাদের সকলকেই সেই পথে চলতে হবে। তবেই, গোটা বিশ্ব আমাদের যে ভাবে দেখতে চাইছে, আমরা তা হয়ে উঠতে পারব।''
বিহারে বিধানসভা নির্বাচনের আগে শেষ দফার প্রচারে গিয়ে আজ বিহারের প্রাক্তন মুখ্যমন্ত্রী লালুপ্রসাদ যাদবকেও বিঁধেছেন প্রধানমন্ত্রী। দাদরির ঘটনার পর লালুপ্রসাদ বলেছিলেন, ''হিন্দুরাও গো-মাংস খান।'' তারই প্রেক্ষিতে প্রধানমন্ত্রী মোদী এ দিন মুঙ্গেরের এক জনসভায় হিন্দু মহাকাব্য 'মহাভারতে'র কাহিনী উল্লেখ করে বলেন,''যদুবংশীয়রাই এক সময় আমাদের মর্যাদা বাড়িয়েছিল। আমরা তাঁদেরই উত্তরাধিকারী। আর, লালুজি এখন সেই যদুবংশীয়দেরই অসম্মান করছেন।''



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    [mukto-mona] RE: {NA Bangladeshi Community} RE: {PFC-Friends} হাসিনার কুরুচিপূর্ণ মন্তব্যে ফেসবুকে ছিঃ ছিঃ রব



    শেখ মুজিবের বিশ্বাস ঘাতকতা সচেতন বিবেকের কাছে স্পষ্ট হয়ে উঠেছিল কর্মকাণ্ডের মধ্য দিয়ে। সকলেই বুঝে ফেলেছিল যে শেখ মুজিব সমগ্র জাতিকে স্বর্গীয় সুখের স্বপ্ন দেখিয়ে জাহান্নামের দ্বার প্রান্তে টেনে এনেছে দিল্লীকে সন্তুষ্ট করার জন্য। ৯০ শতাংশ মানুষ নিরূপায় হয়ে নিয়তির উপর নির্ভর করে সন্ত্রাস বিভিষীকা ক্ষুধা ও দারিদ্র্যকে আলিঙ্গন করে বোবার মত নীরবে অশ্রু বিসর্জন করছিল। বাকী ১০ শতাংশ মানুষ আওয়ামী নৃশংসতাকে সহজ ভাবে গ্রহন করে মুজিববাদী পাশবিকতার সাথে একাকার হয়েছিল সুবিধাবাদী স্বার্থপরের মত। তবে শেখ মুজিবকে উৎখাতের ভাবনাও ছিল অনেকের মধ্যে ।

    শেখ মুজিব এবং তার সহকর্মীবৃন্দ আমাদের মুক্তি ও আত্মমর্যাদার প্রতিশ্রুতি দিয়েছিলেন। আমরা অর্থাৎ বাংলাদেশের জনগণ ঐক্যবদ্ধ হয়ে মরণপণ যুদ্ধ করেছিলাম মুক্তি অর্জন আর আত্মসম্মানবোধ প্রতিষ্ঠা করার জন্য। ইয়াহিয়া খানের পরিবর্তে শেখ মুজিব কিংবা ইন্দিরা গান্ধী অথবা অন্য কোন ক্ষুদে নবাবকে শাসন ক্ষমতায় অধিষ্ঠিত করিয়ে সমাজের বিরাজমান অভিশাপ বয়ে বেড়ানো কিংবা আরো গভীরতর সংকটে নিপতিত হওয়ার জন্য তো আমরা মুক্তি-সংগ্রাম করিনি।

    কিন্তু শেখ মুজিবের ক্ষমতায় আরোহণের ফলে জাতি হিসেবে কি পেয়েছিলাম আমরা। আল্লাহর পরিবর্তে জবরদস্তিমূলকভাবে মুজিবকে বানানো হলো দেবতা আর আমাদের অস্তিত্বের স্পন্দন ইসলামের স্থলে আমরা পেলাম মুজিববাদ। কাঙ্খিত মুক্তি এলো না। গোলামের অবস্থান থেকে আমরা হয়ে পড়লাম নতুন এক শ্রেণীর ক্রীতদাস। আত্মমর্যাদাবোধ আমাদের অর্জন করতে দেয়া হলো না। তার পরিবর্তে করুণা আর উপহাসের পাত্র হয়ে বিশ্বসমাজে আমাদের পরিচিতি হলো 'তলাবিহীন ঝুড়ি' হিসেবে। সমগ্র জাতিকে যে ভয়াবহ আর জঘন্য প্রতারণার জালে আবদ্ধ করা হলো, তার সমুচিত জবাব কি ছিল? সেই বিশ্বাস-ঘাতকতার প্রেক্ষিতে স্বাধীনতা পিয়াসী চির সংগ্রামী জনগণের সামনে আত্মমর্যাদা আর সম্মান পুনরুদ্ধারের জন্য আর কোন পথ কি খোলা ছিল? স্বাধীনতা, মুক্তি, আর নতুন একটি জাতির আত্মমর্যাদাবোধের সাথে বিশ্বাসঘাতকতা আর বেঈমানী যারা করেছে, তাদের কি পাপের প্রায়শ্চিত্ত করতে হবে না?

    মুজিব ভক্তরা যেভাবে প্রচার করতো শেখ মুজিব যদি তেমন কোন দেবতাই হতো তাহলে তার মৃত্যু হয় কিভাবে? অথবা মানবগোষ্ঠীর অন্তর্ভুক্ত কেউ তাকে কিভাবে মৃত্যুর দিকে ঠেলে দিতে পারে? আর শেখ মুজিব যদি দেবতা না হয়ে রক্ত মাংসের মানুষ হয়, তাহলে তো তাকে মানবতা আর আল্লাহর বিরুদ্ধে কৃত অপরাধের বিচারের সম্মুখীন হওয়ার জন্য আল্লাহর নিকট প্রেরণ করা হয়েছে মাত্র। কোন মানুষেরই তো এমন কোন ক্ষমতা নেই যার উপর নির্ভর করে অন্য কোন ব্যক্তি অথবা কোন গোষ্ঠী নিজের জীবন কিংবা মৃত্যুর উপরে কোন এখতিয়ার, ক্ষমতা আর নিয়ন্ত্রণ আছে বলে দাবী করতে পারে।
    আর পাঁচ জনের মত সাধারণ মানুষ হিসেবে অকুণ্ঠচিত্তে স্বীকার করতে আমার কোন দ্বিধা নেই যে, অন্য কোন ব্যক্তির জীবন অথবা মৃত্যুর উপরে আমার কোন নিয়ন্ত্রণ নেই। তবে অন্যান্য আর সব মানুষের মত আমার সত্তা আর আমার আত্মসম্মানবোধ সংরক্ষণের অধিকার আমারও আছে। স্বাধীনতা আর আত্মমর্যাদাবোধ ব্যতিরেকে মানব জীবন নিরর্থক এবং তা যদি না থাকে তাহলে মানুষ হিসেবে আশরাফুল মাখলুকাত সৃষ্টির সেরা হিসেবে বেঁচে থাকাটাই অসম্ভবের পর্যায়ে উপনীত হয়।

    তখনকার বিরাজমান ভয়াবহ পরিস্থিতি আর অবলুপ্ত সকল পন্থার প্রেক্ষিতে আমার এবং যারা আমাকে ১৫ আগস্ট '৭৫-এ প্রত্যক্ষভাবে সমর্থন করেছিল আর যারা নিজ নিজ অবস্থান থেকে দোয়া করেছিল, তাদের সকলের সামনে এক কথায় সমগ্র জাতির সামনে শুধুমাত্র একটি পথই খোলা ছিল; আর তা হচ্ছে শেখ মুজিব যিনি আমাদের জনগণকে এবং জনগণের সকল কুরবানী আর আশা-আকাঙ্খা-স্বপ্নকে ভয়ংকরভাবে প্রতাণা করেছিলেন, সেই কথিত দেবতাকে ধ্বংস করা কিংবা কমপক্ষে ধ্বংস সাধনের চেষ্টা করা।

    ৪০ বছর পর আজকে ব্যাপারটি কারো কারো কাছে খুব সহজ মনে হতে পারে। কিন্তু নরকের অতল থেকে উৎসারিত শোচনীয়ভাবে অন্ধকারাচ্ছন্ন মুজিববাদের সেই বিভীষিকাময় দিনগুলোতে এমন পরিবর্তনের কথা চিন্তা করতেও সাধারণ মানুষতো দূরের কথা, অতি সাহসী বিপ্লবীরাও আতংকগ্রস্ত হয়ে পড়তেন। আমদের জন্য বিষয়টি ছিল ভীতিকর এবং ব্যর্থতার আশংকায় ভরপুর- আমাদের বলগাহীন কল্পনাতে কিংবা স্বপ্নেও আমরা ভাবিনি আমরা সফল হতে পারবো। আমরা ধরে নিয়েছিলাম আমরা মরব এবং সে মৃত্যু হবে আত্মমর্যাদাবোধ সম্পন্ন মুক্তি ও স্বাধীন মানুষের গৌরবময় শাহাদাত। মুজিবী দুঃশাসনের পশুত্বের জীবন মেনে নিয়ে ক্রীতদাসের মত বেঁচে থাকার চেয়ে আমরা আমাদের নিজেদের ভবিষ্যতের জন্য কোন পরিকল্পনাই করিনি। কারণ, আমরা জানতাম না অথবা চিন্তাও করিনি যে, মৃত্যুর অনিবার্য পরিণতিকে অতিক্রম করে আমরা জীবিত থাকব এবং আমাদের ভবিষ্যৎ বলে কিছু থাকবে। আমাদের সাহায্য করার জন্য, আমাদের পথ দেখানোর জন্য, আমাদের মনে সাহস সঞ্চয়ের জন্য আমরা আল্লাহর কাছে প্রার্থনা করেছিলাম যদিও আমরা তখন নিশ্চিত ছিলাম না সর্বশক্তিমান স্রষ্টা আমাদের এই ক্ষুদ্র জাগতিক জীবনের দৈনন্দিন কর্মধারাকে প্রত্যক্ষভাবে নিয়ন্ত্রণ করেন কিনা, কারণ জাতির সেই অসহায় দিনে আমরা আল্লাহ ব্যতিরেকে আর কারো দিকে সাহায্যের প্রত্যাশায় হাত পাতার কথা ভাবতেই পারিনি।



    Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:52:57 -0400
    Subject: Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} RE: {PFC-Friends} হাসিনার কুরুচিপূর্ণ মন্তব্যে ফেসবুকে ছিঃ ছিঃ রব
    From: shahdeeldar@gmail.com
    To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com
    CC: alishaheen2010@gmail.com; pfc-friends@googlegroups.com; shahadathussaini@hotmail.com; nabdc@googlegroups.com; la-discussion@googlegroups.com; ZAINUL321@yahoo.com; subain1@yahoo.com; bachchuhaq13@yahoo.com; farida_majid@hotmail.com; nurannabi@gmail.com

    Despite all character flaws, Mujib was an East Pakistani and Bangladeshi product. We simply did not have any better one to lead the country. The country simply did not have quality people to run the country when cold war was at its peak. With zero bank balance, the man had to manage 70 million people when US was dead against the  Mujib government. Mujib was doomed to fail because he was not paranoid enough like strategic Fidel. Overconfidence led his downfall.

    Another fatherly figure, Bhasani was rather a comical figure, who was basically an illiterate man with no political strategy for his own party, let alone for the country. God knows whether he was a fake Chinese commy, democrat or a veiled fundamentalist? You can't make out anything out of this enigmatic man. His followers are even crazier than the old man. They simply did not have any ideology, period! My verdict about this man is that he was merely a product of that time with no strong conviction in any issue except delivering some nonsense speeches.

    What about the other characters? NAP and Communist party leaders? They never really tickled East Pakistani Bengalees. Major Zia should not be a candidate for anything except being a soldier with grand ambition. Bangladeshis did not start fighting against the Pakistanis because of his Kalurghat announcement. That is an insult and pure fallacy!

    Bangladeshis need to be careful about their own quality before they criticize Mujib. I am sorry to say that the overall quality is very poor. Just go and check it out for yourself. So, how do you produce a true Jefferson in Bangladesh? Or, how could former East Pakistanis produce a quality leader and statesman in 50-60s? Are we not putting the cart before the horses?

    On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Ali Shaheen <alishaheen2010@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thank you.  BTW I am well aware of Mujib's corruption and abuse of power and he paid for it with his life, along with his family members.

    Here are some facts to consider:  Mujib received a hero's welcome after his return to BD from Pakistan.  No one blamed him for surrendering to Pakistan then.  Later he became corrupt and unpopular and was assassinated. That is part of history too.  Get over it and move on.  Despite his excesses there was still enough support for his party to bring back his daughter to power.  So there are many people who are against AL, but there are also many who keep them in power and you can call them names but they are still there!

    Like any country we have two dominant political parties.  The leaders of both parties have been tainted with corruption.  Does anyone seriously think there isn't corruption in politics?!  Especially South Asian politics.

    We have nothing better to argue over but to ask if someone said inna lilla or alhamdullilah at someone's death?!!!  How small minded can we get?  There are always people who rejoice at a politician's death and those who mourn.  What difference does that make to his place in history?

    Shouldn't we be trying to identify leaders with integrity and ways to root out corruption instead?

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:

    Please stop patronizing Ms. Shaheen about what she understands or not due to her age or education. Make your points and convince others with your facts. More people singing the same tune in a forum does not make an opinion credible. It simply manifests poor quality and intelligence.

    On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 2:24 AM, alaldulal via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:
    Sorry, I had no intention to find out how old you are.I thought you would understand why said "if your are above 50." It was to infer that if you are under 50 if are not likely to know what happened 40 years ago. It is normal for a Muslim to say Inna-Lillah when he/she learns of the death of another Muslim. Since you "don't understand the significance of saying inna lilla at Mujib's death!", I have nothing to say except advising you to check with another Muslim who is perhaps a little more God-fearing. The point I wanted to bring out was what was mentioned in the article "August 15: Know the Facts, Not Fiction". Sheikh Mujib became such a hated character by August 1975 that people said Al-Hamdulillah instead of Inna-Lillah.

    Yet, I would say Sheikh Mujib had huge contribution towards awakening the Bengalis of East Pakistan, he united them to speak in one voice against Pakistani domination, he led them to victory in the 1970 elections. Bengalis were overwhelmed with his slogans of Six Points and Sonar Bangla Shashan Keno, though I personally believe they were faulty slogans and vote gathering stunts (That's what is politics, perhaps!). 

    That is was the Sheikh Mujib before March 25, 1971. What happened after that? His surrender to the Pakistani junta and obtaining royal treatment for his family in his absence--while the rest of the Bengalis were butchered (in Mujib's own words 3 million), and women raped by the same junta--can never be justified in any angle. Mujib should be held partly responsible for the genocide of March 25/26, 1971 because he failed to warn them of what the junta was up to. He was busy drawing the future blueprint of Pakistan with Yahya-Bhutto-Peerzada gang until March 2425 while East Pakistan was being militarized before his very eyes. August 15 didn't just happen; Mujib invited it.         


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    From: Ali Shaheen <alishaheen2010@gmail.com>
    To: pfc-friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>
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     What does my age have to do with this discussion?! I am old enough to have lived this history and even if I wasn't, why can't you discuss the issue without becoming personal? 

    I don't understand the significance of saying inna lilla at Mujib's death!  Muslims are supposed to say inna lilla when anyone dies.  It basically means that the person has returned to their Creator.  Anyone who believes in a Creator would say it so what does this prove? I am stunned at how petty and small minded this discussion is becoming!

    Even if you try Mujib posthumously for all the crimes he has committed, he is still the Father of the Nation.  Sorry guys - hate him if you must, re-write history if you have the power, but we are stuck with the facts no matter how you try to spin it.

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    On Oct 8, 2015, at 10:11 PM, alaldulal via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:

    I thought Ms Shaheen was a knowledgeable person, particularly in the history of South Asian subcontinent. I started having my doubts now. I am not aware of her nationality or origin. She once challenged that Pakistan had no business in Kashmir. That was a typical Hindu Indian version. 

    Now she compares Sheikh Mujib's surrender with that of Gandhi. Anybody having the basic or minimum knowledge of history, would know the difference between the two. In the epic film "Gandhi", the British judge stood up when a young prisoner Gandhi was brought in the court in South Africa. That was Gandhi (Even though it might have been fictionalized a little). And Mujib? I am rather hesitant to mention of a small incident in Comilla in March 1975. I was going in a rikshaw and there was deafening announcements everywhere calling people to attend the gathering at the Suhrawardy Uddyan to listen to "Bongabandur guruttapurno bhashon" on March 26. Mujib was to unveil his BAKSAL plan there. In jest I asked the rikshawala if he would go to Dhaka. His response: Rikhya den shab. Oi betar janaza hoile jaite pari. I was shocked! That was Sheikh Mujib by 1975! 

    Ms. Shaheen, if your are above 50, did you utter Inna Lillah when you heard of Mujib's death on August 15? Be honest. 

    Below is an old article by Obaid Chowdhury. Those who have time, may read to learn a little more of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. It was widely published in the media. 

    Thanks,
    OC



    August 15: Know the Facts, Not Fiction
     
    After 21 years in political wilderness, the Bangladesh Awami League returned to power in 1996, thanks to a conniving hand of former dictator General H M Ershad. The first thing Sheikh Hasina Wazed, the new Prime Minister, did was to arrest the coup leaders of August 15, 1975 and put them on trial.
    Interestingly, the trial issue was never an AL election manifesto--- not even in 1996. The party knew it well that the trial of the August 15 coup leaders was neither a public demand nor was it in national interest.
    Nonetheless, that turned out to be Sheikh Hasina's top priority. According to at least two prominent personalities, Serajur Rahman of BBC, and a Colonel of the Directorate General of Forces Intelligence, Sheikh Hasina had no interest in politics but would like to be in the seat of power at least for a day to fulfill her two agendas: 1) To try the 'killers' of her father Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and, 2) to rehabilitate his image. She did exactly those two things in her first term as Prime Minister.
    To justify the so-called Mujib Murder Trial, all kinds of falsehood and misinformation were fed to the public, to the media and to the foreigners about the August 15, 1975 coup. According to most independent observers, the drama orchestrated in the name of the trial was a sham. The Awami-inspired judges dished out the death penalty to a few army officers picked up as scapegoats. Within minutes of the final OK by the Supreme Court and the president's seal of approval, the national heroes had to walk to the gallows in an unprecedented haste on the fateful night of January 27/28, 2010.   
    During the trial, few went to the circumstances that led to the pre-dawn military action against the repressive and dictatorial regime of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.
    Bangabandhu turns Banga-Shatru?

    On January 10, 1972, the people of the newly liberated Bangladesh showered all the love and affection to Sheikh Mujibur Rahman upon his arrival in Dhaka from Pakistani custody. Few leaders in history enjoyed such adulation, such popularity. Regrettably, things overturned in just three and a half years.
    Well known Indian journalist and writer Kuswant Singh wrote in the Illustrated Weekly of India about Sheikh Mujib, "Within a couple of years, he had lost much of his charisma and lived in a cocoon of self-spun esteem. He came to regard honest critics as traitors and sycophants as loyal friends. It was a classic case of folio de grandeur. He was blissfully unaware that the very people who called him Bangabandhu to his face were behind his back called him Banga-Shatru."
    On January 2, 1973, Mujahidul Islam Selim, Vice President of Dhaka University Central Students Union (DUCSU), at a Paltan rally in Dhaka withdrew the Bangabandhu title given to Sheikh Mujibur Rahmna and cancelled his life-long membership of the DUCSU, tearing off the page from the register in public. It was the same student leader, who granted him the DUCSU membership a year ago. Selim had further asked all offices to remove the pictures of Mujib. Among other slogans at the rally, "Sheikh Mujib Traitor of Bangladesh (Banglar Mir Jaffor Sheikh Mujib) was the loudest. On another occasion, AL's Chatra League activists stripped the sari off Students Union leader Motia Chowdhury in public. The incidents were in the wake of the killing some activists of Students Union at Mujib's order while they were demonstrating anti-American slogans for its Vietnam War.
    On August 29, 1975, the Workers Party of Rashed Khan Menon, stated, "For the past three and a half years, the people suffered under the detested and anti-people regime of Sheikh Mujib and prayed every moment for its fall. The August 15 had accomplished it."  
     
    Ironically, all three leaders are happily doing Awami politics today.
     
    A Reflection on August 15
    At the dawn of August 15, 1975, the people of Dhaka woke up to the blasts of a few artillery shots followed by small arms fires coming from the posh Dhanmondi area where Sheikh Mujib lived. In an intuition, they immediately switched their radios on; rumors of a possible coup were in the air for sometime. Surely, they heard an announcement that the government of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman had been overthrown in a military coup.
    The first announcement came from one Major Rashed. It was followed by an agitated speech by Captain Mustafa, condemning the fallen regime. It was before 6 AM and the main transmitter had not been activated yet. Most people missed much of those announcements, as such.
    After half an hour, another person identifying himself as Major Dalim, made the detailed announcement, including the news of the unfortunate death of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman in the short military action and that his close associate Khandakar Mushtaque Ahmed took over as the new president. His recorded announcement continued for sometime.

    The day was Friday and the curfew was relaxed for two hours at noontime to facilitate the Jummah prayer. Wow! The Dhaka city turned to another Victory Day celebrations. People paraded the streets singing slogans, expressing their happiness and solidarity with the political change. Veteran politician and former East Pakistan Chief Minister Ataur Rahman Khan termed August 15 as "The Day of Deliverance."
     
    Under the Awami administration, the day is observed as a Mourning Day for the loss of its leader. In the month of August, the party and its supporting agencies keep showering praise on Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. To them, he was Bangabandhu, he was Jatir Pita and he was Shorbokaler Sorbosreshto Bangali. Outside their circle, not many people agree with those titles. 

    The younger generations may please go through the media reports and pages of newspapers of the time---it is not difficult in today's technology--- and find the facts for themselves to learn the truth. One should not be swayed by myths, and untrue and unsubstantiated information.

    I once came across an article by M M Azizul Haq published in the Daily Inqilab on November 1, 1991. It was titled "Indemnity Rohit: Kar Sarthey? (Repeal of Indemnity: In Who's Interest?). It was written in the backdrop of then opposition party Awami League's pressure for the repeal of the Indemnity Act. There could be more such write-ups elsewhere.

    The new president promulgated an indemnity ordinance to immunize those who were involved in the military action on August 15, 1975. The ordinance became part of the constitution as Indemnity Act in 1979 under Fifth Amendment. 

    Mr. Azizul Haq detailed the reasons why August 15 took place and what might have been the scenario in Bangladesh had there not been this coup. The picture he painted was scary.
    According to most analysts, August 15 was inevitable. It was the call of the time, call of the majority of Bangladeshis who were groaning under the dark and heavy hands of Mujb's autocratic and repressive machinery. They thought military alone could salvage the nation.

    While observing the Mourning Day, the AL and its supporters start with the AL leader's heavily edited version of March 7, 1971 speech and end with it. They rarely talk about the achievements of his administration. Younger generations--- those in forties and below--- need to visualize the Bangladesh of 1972-1975, the "Golden Period" of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. Those who lived the time, need to make a walk back for reorientation. Few may disagree that whatever little benefit of independence, freedom, democracy and development people of Bangladesh enjoy today is largely attributed to the August 15 political change.

    The New York Times, the Washington Post, the Guardian of London, the Far Eastern Economic Review and many others international media houses highlighted Mujib's corruptible administration under which a few hundred thousand people perished in the man-made famine of 1974-75. Men and animals struggling for eatables in the city wastes were common sights. Poor women could not come out of their houses, as they did not have clothes to cover. Whatever they had, turned to almost fishing nets. Dead bodies had to be buried with banana leaves.
    But there was no dearth of relief goods that remained hoarded in the warehouses of the ruling coterie, to be dispensed for political expediency or sold in the black. The corruption was so extensive that former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger termed Bangladesh a Bottomless Basket.

    While people were dying in the streets and in the countryside, the marriages of Sheikh Kamal and Sheikh Jamal were celebrated in royal style at the Gonobhaban, Mujib's official residence. So did Mujib's birthday in 1975.  

    Mujib's personal force of Rakkhi Bahini, created at the instance of India ostensibly to counter the army, killed over 30 thousand political opponents. The late Enayetullah Khan of Holiday put the figure to 38,000. A S M Abdur Rob of Jatiyo Samajtantrik Dal once claimed that over 40,000 of his cadre were killed/disappeared during that period. Mujib himself admitted in the parliament the killing of Siraj Sikdar, a top leftist leader. Can one imagine how many additional lives would have lost had there not been the August 15?

    In end 1974, Emergency was clamped in the country. All but four government-owned newspapers were cancelled publication. Political activities were banned. Anyone not towing the official line was either in jail or not seen again. The political openness and the media freedom we see in Bangladesh today is a gift of August 15.

    In January 1975, Sheikh Mujib took over presidency, showing the exit door to poor Muhammad Ullah. Reportedly, there was a plan, through the Chatra League route, to make Mujib the lifelong president. August 15 stopped that dream of a lifelong repressive autocracy in Bangladesh.

    The last nail on the coffin of an ailing nation came in the form of Mujib's supposed "greatest achievement", the formation of the Bangladesh Krishak Sramik Awami League (BAKSAL), the Soviet style one-party government. All other political parties were banned. The military and the bureaucracy were politicized by forcing them to join the BAKSAL. The country was divided into 61 political districts, each to be administered jointly by a BAKSAL governor and a BAKSAL Secretary, chosen personally by the leader. The system was to take effect on September 1, 1975. 
    Noted historian and author K Ali said on Sheikh Mujib, "He was out and out a despotic ruler and snatched away fundamental rights of the people by introducing absolute dictatorship under one-party system----there was hardly any doubt that the measure (one-party rule) was taken only to establish his permanent rule in the country without any opposition." August 15 stopped that dangerous path. 

    According to the politico-partisan trial, August 15 was said to be an isolated act committed by a "handful of disgruntled army officers". Far from the truth. From available information, the coup was executed by two units---2 Field Artillery and 1 Lancer---and led mostly by their officers. One infantry unit from Joydevpur failed to join the group at the last moment. How wide ranging was the support for the coup may be verified from the following examples:

    Military Support
    When under attack, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman called then army chief General Safiullah for help. The General could not. Safiullah acknowledged to the Daily Star that he was helpless, as he found that the whole army was supportive of the coup.
    The moment Brigadier Khaled Mosharraf, then army Chief of the General Staff, learnt that the main guns of the tanks that were out for the coup were without ammunition, he immediately ordered shells for the guns.
    Immediately after the coup, chiefs of army, navy, air force, Bangladesh Rifles, police, Rakkhi Bahini and Ansar rushed to the Dhaka Radio to announce their complete support for the coup and loyalty to the new president. It would be ludicrous to think that "a handful of officers" forced them to do it.  
    If the whole military did not support the coup, what prevented it to immediately crush those 'handful' men?  
    Public support
    Hardly any Innalillah….was heard upon the news of Sheikh Mujib's death. In fact, people said to have heaved a sigh of relief with an Alhamdulillah. They thanked Allah, they had been saved! It was declared a Day of Deliverance by Ataur Rahman Khan, a later day Prime Minister.
    There was not an iota of resistance or protest from any quarter anywhere following the coup or "killing" of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. One may check the newspapers in the archives for facts. Again, the 110 million people of Bangladesh were not at gunpoint from a "handful of officers".
    People swarmed the Dhaka streets in thousands in jubilation and celebration of the success of the coup. Similar celebrations were reported from rest of the country. The scenario may only be compared to the victory day of December 16, 1971.  
    People offered special prayers and distributed sweets on the day. Such celebrations were also reported form Bangladeshi communities abroad.  
    Political Support
    The post coup administration was formed entirely by the Awami League members of the parliament. The only exception was former president Justice Abu Sayeed Chowdhury who became the foreign minister. No coup leader was seen within miles of the new administration, an unprecedented example in the history of successful coups/revolutions. To those patriots and dedicated souls, August 15 was to save the nation, not to run it.  
    Veteran Awami Leaguer Abdul Malek Ukil said on the fall of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman that the country was relieved of a Zalim Feroun. Malek Ukil was the Speaker of the House and later became the President of the Awami League.
    Following the August 15 coup, newspapers and TV channels were filled with greetings from various political, educational and cultural groups from all over the country. Again, one may visit the media archives-- national and international---to find facts. 
    Diplomatic Acknowledgement: 
    The new government formed after the August 15 coup was immediately welcomed and recognized by international community, including India, the US, the USSR and the UK. China and Saudi Arabia accorded recognition to Bangladesh for the first time.
    It is, however, regrettable that Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and some of his close relatives died during the coup. I am not aware if his death was intended and if it could be averted. I may just quote a top bureaucrat of that time: "Under the circumstances, one could not think of a change of government keeping Mujib alive." Colonel Abdur Rashid, one of the coup leaders, said more or less the same to Anthony Mascarenhas in London in 1976.
    My intention is not to glorify a death event. But August 15 cannot be called a mere death event. It was a successful military coup for the greater national interest. The event should be seen from a larger perspective. It reintroduced multiparty democracy, it brought political freedom, it relieved the gagged press, and it opened public accountability, among others.  
    To understand August 15, one needs to walk back in time to the early period of Bangladesh and judge the day in that perspective. Sheikh Mujib is dead. So are hundreds of thousand others that were perished under his heavy hands. The greatest achievement of August 15, I think, was that it succeeded in stopping those unaccountable killings since.  
    Obaid Chowdhury
    NY, USA
    December 24, 2012






    -----Original Message-----
    From: Abid Bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com>
    To: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
    Cc: pfc-friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>; nabdc group <nabdc@googlegroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>; la-discussion <la-discussion@googlegroups.com>; Zainul Abedin <ZAINUL321@yahoo.com>
    Sent: Thu, Oct 8, 2015 6:12 pm
    Subject: Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} RE: {PFC-Friends} হাসিনার কুরুচিপূর্ণ মন্তব্যে ফেসবুকে ছিঃ ছিঃ রব

    HOW COULD MUJIB BE THE "FATHER OF THE NATION WHEN HE WAS ABSENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE LIBERATION PERIOD?

    Mujib without declaring independence his surrender on the 25th night and Gandhi;s and other leader's surrender to the police authority were two different things. Mujib as an elected leader cunningly avoided his responsibility to lead his people when the enemy were ganged up to make a massacre of Bengalis. Clearly Mujib surrendered to save himself and his family. This is his betrayal with the people that trusted him to lead. 

    Additionally, how could his family remained safe in Dhaka receiving monthly provisions and common people were being slaughtered on the streets of Dhaka. Then, after his return from Pakistan, Mujib invites his friend, the Bengali killer Bhutto to Bangladesh to show his gratitude that he saved his life.  

    2015-10-08 19:35 GMT-04:00 Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>:
    Mr. Ali Shaheen:
    The topic of discussion is  "হাসিনার কুরুচিপূর্ণ মন্তব্যে ফেসবুকে ছিঃ ছিঃ রব". We are ধান ভানছি, আর আপনি শিবের গীত গেতে শুরু করলেন, তাও আবার  শিব লিঙ্গের গীত. You could keep yourself quiet, if you have problem in 'fact' digestion .

    Shahadat Suhrawardy


    Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} হাসিনার কুরুচিপূর্ণ মন্তব্যে ফেসবুকে ছিঃ ছিঃ রব
    From: alishaheen2010@gmail.com
    Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 01:41:45 -0400
    To: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com

    And who led the Awami League to a landslide victory in the 1971 elections which Pakistan tried to steal and which ultimately led to the creation of Bangladesh.  These are facts that cannot be changed by political spin.  Gandhi also "surrendered" to British police many times and was put in jail.  This does not mean Mujib did not make mistakes but he is still the Father of the Nation just as Jinnah is for Pakistan even though many people think he made mistakes too.

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Oct 7, 2015, at 1:01 AM, Abid Bahar <abid.bahar@gmail.com> wrote:

    SHEIKH HASINA CAME FROM A VERY POWERFUL FAMILY BACKGROUND

    Hasina is the daughter of a man who began his career as the body guard of Suhrowardhy,
    Who was the ring leader in the Deputy speaker Shahed Ali's death.
    Who was expelled from Dhaka University for his un student like behavior
    Who surrendered on March 25, 1971 by betraying with his people
    Who was then made as the "father of the nation"
    Who founded the BKSAL one party dictatorship.
    Who caused the 1974 Man-Made famine in which half a million people died.
    Whose reign came to an end with him the death of 19 other family members, rare in history.
    Abdul Malik Ukil, the Awami leader called the death of Mujib as the death of Bangladeshi Feroun (fascist)
    Hasina is the daughter of this powerful South Asian dictator.

    2015-10-05 20:34 GMT-04:00 Borakh Bash <borakhbash@gmail.com>:
    Persevering faceGrinning face with smiling eyesGrinning face with smiling eyesGrinning face with smiling eyesGrinning face with smiling eyes''' তোমাদেরই  খুজছে  বাংলাদেশ ''

    ৪ অক্টোবর, ২০১৫ ২:০৩ pm এ তে, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> লিখেছে:

    যারা হাসিনাদের বাপের বাড়ি কিছুক্ষণের জন্য ও গিয়েছেন তারা জানেন শেখ মুজিব সহ ওই বাড়ির লোকজনদের vocabulary. যে মহিলা এই ধরনের কথা বলতে পারে সে আবার তার বাপ কে জাতির পিতা দাবি করে কিভাবে ? কোন ধরনের বাপের বেটী এই রকম কথা বলতে পারে বাংলাদেশের জনগন আজ জেনে গেল

    Ref: Amar Fanshi Chai

    ভিডিও >> খালেদা-ফালু নিয়ে হাসিনার কুরুচিপূর্ণ মন্তব্যে ফেসবুকে ছিঃ ছিঃ রব

    04 Oct, 2015
    টুডে রিপোর্ট
    তিনবারের সাবেক প্রধানমন্ত্রী বেগম খালেদা জিয়াকে নিয়ে বর্তমান প্রধানমন্ত্রী ও আওয়ামী লীগ সভানেত্রী শেখা হাসিনার উদ্ভট কুরুচিপূর্ণ মন্তব্যে স্তব্ধ সাধারণ মানুষ।
    জাতিসংঘ সফর শেষে গতকাল শনিবার দেশে ফেরার পর রোববার দুপুরে নিজ বাসভবন গণভবনে সংবাদ সম্মেলন ডাকেন শেখ হাসিনা। সেখানে এক সাংবাদিকের প্রশ্নের উত্তরে হাসিনা তার কুরুচির চরম প্রকাশ ঘটিয়ে বলেন, "আওয়ামী লীগের মধ্যে যদি খালেদা জিয়া প্রেমিক খুঁজে পান তাহলে ফালুর কী হবে?"
    এরপর থেকেই সামাজিক মাধ্যমে ছিঃ ছিঃ রব উঠেছে। এ বিষয়ে মন্তব্য করতে গিয়ে সবাই প্রশ্ন তুলছেন, ‌'এই ধরনের নোংরা ইঙ্গিতপূর্ণ কথা কি কোনো দেশের প্রধানমন্ত্রীর মুখ থেকে বের হতে পারে?' 
    কায়কাউস নামে এক ফেসবুক ইউজার লিখেছেন, "তাঁর চেয়ে ঢের খারাপ মানুষ দ্বারা আমরা অতীতে বহুবার শাসিত হয়েছি ; কিন্তু তাঁর মতো অশ্লীল এবং বিকৃত রুচির কেউ এই জাতিকে কখনও শাসন করেছে বলে মনে হয় না।"


    লেখক ও ব্লগার আবু হাসান মুস্তাফিজ লিখেছেন, "অযোগ্যতা মানুষরে কোথায় নিয়া যাইতে পারে, এইটা তার প্রকৃষ্ট উদাহরণ।" বামপন্থী রাজনীতিক ও লেখক মাসুদ রানা লিখেছেন, "এতে কি খালেদা জিয়াই অপমানিত হয়েছেন? আপনি যে তাঁকে অপমান করলেন, তাতে নারী হিসেবে কি আপনার অপমান হয়নি?"
    ফেসবুকে বিডিটুডের শেয়ার করা এ সংক্রান্ত সংবাদটির নিচে মন্তব্য করেছেন কয়েকশ পাঠক। জিয়াউল হক নামে একজন লিখেছেন, "ছিঃ ছিঃ ছিঃ। আমার বাড়ির গৃহকর্মীও এর চেয়ে ঢের সুন্দর কথা বলে। ব্যবহারে বংশের পরিচয়। দুর্জ্জন বিদ্যান হলেও পরিতাজ্য।"
    টিটু আবদুর রহমান নামে একজনের মন্তব্য, "একজন প্রধানমন্ত্রী মুখে এইরকম নোংরা কথা জাতি আশা করে না ।তা হলে বাসার কাজের বুয়ার আর ওনার মধ্যে তফাত কোথায় রইল? আর আমরাও ওনার কাছ থেকে কি শিক্ষা নিব?"
    মাসুম নামে আরেকজন লিখেছেন, "কথায় আছেনা ব্যবহারেই বংশের পরিচয়? এই হলো আমাদের প্রধানমন্ত্রীর ভাষাগত জ্ঞ্যান! খুব ভালো, আমরাও না হয় একটু বিনোদন পাইলাম!"
    মিজানুর রহমান লিখেছেন, "এই হলো আমাদের দেশের প্রধানমন্ত্রী! যার মুখের ভাষায় কোন শালীনতা নেই তার নিকট থেকে দেশের মানুষ কি শিখবে?" 
    শ্রী হিরা দেব লিখেছেন, "এরকম কথা একজন প্রধানমন্ত্রী বলে কী করে এসব কথা নিম্নমানের মহিলারা ঝগড়ার মাঝে বলে থাকে।" শাহানুর রহমানের মন্তব্য, "এইটা কী বলে?! আমার কানকেও বিশ্বাস করতে পারছিনা।"
    হাসান খালেদের মন্তব্য, "সভ্যতা কি শেখ হাসিনাকে স্পর্শ করবে না? ৬৯ বছর বয়সি একজন প্রবীণ কিভাবে এমন অশ্লীল অর্থহীন কথা বলতে পারেন?" নাজমুল শাহাদাৎ সুজন লিখেছেন, "বাংলাদেশের লজ্জা যে, উনি এই দেশের প্রধানমন্ত্রী।"

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