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Monday, March 12, 2012

[ALOCHONA] Awami League's moral defeat: Govt holds Dhaka city hostage



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Awami League's moral defeat: Government holds Dhaka city hostage

Mahfuz Anam



http://amardeshonline.com/pages/details/2012/03/13/135903

When does a government strangulate its capital city by preventing almost all modes of transport from reaching it? When does a government bring to a virtual halt almost all internal city movements? When does a government create such a panicky situation that traders do not open shops out of fear of vandalism? When does a government prevent its own citizens from carrying out their day to day activities? When do government leaders tell blatant lies on television while the truth is clearly the opposite? When does a ruling party let loose its goons upon normal citizens on suspicion that they might attend the opposition rally? When does an elected government adopt the most oppressive measure to prevent the opposition from holding a public rally?



http://www.thedailysangbad.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=News&pub_no=1007&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&val=95083

Only when it is unsure of itself. A party confident of its popular base, sure of its public support, certain of the efficacy of its policies and surefooted about its public record would never have done what the ruling Awami League did yesterday to prevent the BNP from holding its public rally. What the ruling party did over the last two days to prevent mass participation in the opposition rally reveals a political party frightened of the strength of the opposition and loath to allow it to show it. In its massive show of strength the Awami League looked its weakest.


http://www.samakal.com.bd/details.php?news=13&action=main&option=single&news_id=243754&pub_no=990

A party that only three and half years ago came to power with a massive four fifths majority in parliament should today be so frightened of a discredited (in the last election) opposition that it uses all, save the military, coercive machinery of the state to prevent its mass rally. What is it, if not a moral defeat?


http://jugantor.us/enews/issue/2012/03/13/news0706.htm

The tragedy for the AL is that in attempting to suppress the opposition it has suppressed the citizens. Ordinary people were subjected to indescribable sufferings just to prevent the BNP from holding its rally. People who had nothing to do with the opposition's programme were searched, harassed, verbally abused and prevented from coming to Dhaka for their personal work on suspicion that they might join the rally. We have reports of job seekers scheduled to reach the Middle East not allowed to travel to Dhaka even after showing their tickets and passports. We have eyewitnesses to the fact that most launches were stopped at the point of origin and the few arriving at Sadarghat were prevented from reaching the shore and forced to go to far away jetties to let their passengers disembark, who then were stranded without any means of reaching their destinations. And we are not even talking of people arrested on suspicion and held in jails all over the country.


http://amardeshonline.com/pages/details/2012/03/13/135899

We published photographs of stick wielding ruling party goons attacking passengers of buses and launches in order to prevent them from reaching Dhaka. What mindset, what myopia, what perverted logic, what disregard for ordinary people could have allowed a government party to permit its activists to attack ordinary passengers whose only "crime" was to want to come to Dhaka. Seldom can we find examples of such disrespect for the fundamental rights of the people. Is this the ruling party's example of democracy?


http://www.dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Soccer&pub_no=820&cat_id=1&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&index=5

We also condemn the fact that the mass media, especially the electronic media, were prevented from fully carrying out their professional duties during yesterday's opposition programme. Several TV stations were barred from airing uninterrupted live coverage of the rally. A few channels that were covering stories of public sufferings during the course of the day were visited by intelligence people and told to tone down their coverage. In other cases the cable operators were partially prevailed upon to take some channels off the air during the peak hours of the opposition's rally. Such blatant interference in the media's function amounts to suppression of the freedom of the media and public's inalienable right to know.


http://sonarbangladesh.com/blog/post/98962

The oppressive measures the ruling party resorted to in order to prevent the BNP rally has shocked us all. The use of police, the intelligence agencies, and late last night, the BGB stunned the ordinary citizens are to why such a massive show of states repressive machinery was necessary. The government's apology of an explanation that it was only trying to prevent the opposition from creating chaos was neither credible nor acceptable in the absence of any proof. The more the government leaders repeated this narrative the more they sounded hollow and more their real intention became clear.

The question today is not what BNP did or how big was its rally, but what the ruling Awami League did. It showed a most ugly repressive face. It demonstrated that it would not hesitate to take any measure, however harsh, use any coercive instrument of state, impose any amount of sufferings on ordinary people, tell their fibs regardless of what the truth is, impose needless restrictions on public movement to prevent the opposition from carrying out protest activities permitted in a democracy. It may not realize that by its actions of the last two days the AL's image as a party that believes in democracy stands seriously damaged and its claim that it wants the opposition to play its legitimate role stands questioned.

We are sorry that Khaleda Zia has called a hartal on the 29th of this month, which we are opposed to in principle. But the issue of some sort of neutral body presiding over the election period and allowing the Election Commission to function freely is a legitimate question that AL cannot wish away. Here the opposition is right and the ruling party is wrong. The latter will have to concede on this point if it wants an election participated by all parties. Terming all BNP's actions as attempts to subvert the war crimes trial is a misconceived strategy and may have the opposite effect than intended. It is true that the BNP's position on the war crimes trial is condemnable (we will write separately on it) but its demand for an interim government for free and fair elections is justified.

We want to say in clear terms that the AL's policy towards the opposition, as exhibited in the last two days, is fundamentally undemocratic, legally untenable and practically unsustainable. What if the opposition calls for a similar programme a few months later? Will the government strangulate the country again for days? Will the public accept such sufferings again and again? As a country that proudly tells the world of its democracy such behaviour from its ruling party is totally unacceptable. The quicker the AL learns it, the better it is for its prospects in the next polls.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=226110

Further:
http://www.jjdin.com/?view=details&type=single&pub_no=66&cat_id=1&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&index=5
http://www.samakal.com.bd/details.php?news=13&action=main&option=single&news_id=243754&pub_no=990
http://www.thedailysangbad.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=News&pub_no=1007&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&val=95083
http://www.dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=gold&data=Soccer&pub_no=820&cat_id=1&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&index=5
http://sonarbangladesh.com/blog/post/98962


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[ALOCHONA] The mountain gives birth to a mouse: BNP' hartal on 29 March



The mountain gives birth to a mouse: BNP' hartal on 29 March


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[ALOCHONA] Don't even ignore them!



Don't even ignore them!

Ameer Hamza

Islam-bashing material of such bad taste has been circulating on the internet that one wonders whether the same quarters that have been bent on baiting impressionable young people ---- those born into the faith ---- into reacting with blind anger, are behind this dastardly mal-propaganda. If hard-boiled atheists are out to convert others need they adopt such perverse means? The contents on the net suggest the attackers need to have their heads examined.

Those who don't know better, do indeed go livid with rage, as is evident after every such offending act. Consider the latest, so-called 'accidental' Quran- burning by American soldiers in Afghanistan. Some have commented that the Quran-burning was 'tailor-made,' to trigger violence. It was inevitable, given the raw emotions of believers in general. This scribe would like to tell the offended followers of Islam to exercise the utmost patience vis-vis the miscreants propagating such vile hatred. For these perpetrators are indeed despicable and even noticing them would be equal to honouring such scum. So, as one 'murrubbi' keeps advising, 'Don't even ignore them!' If only the majority of the adherents of Islam were so 'cool'.

It would be quite pertinent to ask, however --- as one cool Muslim does on the net --- 'What conceivable civilised aim can be achieved by denigrating a Prophet of 1.6 billion Muslims?' This scribe for one believes it is likely to be more than just sick fun on the part of those obsessed with the present world's fastest growing religion. Mind you, the western media keeps using the word 'fundamentalist' to describe the fanatic fringe within Islam, although originally it should apply to someone who is an adherent of the basic principles of any given faith. But what does one find in the media? Stereotypical images of intolerant, ignorant and self-righteous bigots, rather than no-nonsense believers in the religion preached by Islam's modest Messenger!

Dispassionate scholars of world religions cannot but find Islam to be one of the most reasonable monotheistic faiths of man. But that does not prevent mal-propagandists from relentlessly portraying it as irrational, misogynistic and regressive, misreading the texts totally out of context. Some groups professing to be Islamic, have unfortunately been promoting such distortions much more than the actual creed. Consider the average 'waaz mehfil' in dear Bangladesh --- the preacher's pathological obsession with the prurient, specifically women's bodies!

High time all these were put right and every prejudicial media onslaught countered sensibly, with the help of informed scholars and seekers of truth. There is hardly any scope for obscurantism if the holy Book is properly comprehended, nor is there much gap between the values that Islam and secular humanism hold dear.

Our secular intellectuals, most of whom feel awkward about professing Islam, need also to delve deep into the nature and purpose of all human religions, in order to recognise, understand and appreciate the diversity and power of true faith. They ought to be fair in their approach to the 'overly religious.'

At the same time it would be wise to watch out for saboteurs in our midst. Consider how much that is anti-Islamic --- such as the Taliban's banning of girls from schools and women from working --- is projected as 'Islamic fundamentalism' despite the fact that the Prophet had declared specifically: 'The acquisition of knowledge is a duty incumbent on every Muslim, male or female.'

Self-respecting intellectuals and genuine Islamic scholars have a duty to resist distortions and fight falsehood with the correct information and interpretation of the Quran and the Hadith. Ignorance and intolerance are both anti-Islamic and must not be allowed to hold sway. It needs no saying that religion can be easily abused just like any other human activity. And traditions too can become ossified enough to prevent spiritual growth, if followed mindlessly.

Some say that the most notorious secret services today are collaborating to make cannon fodder out of the over-fertile Muslims! They are allegedly planting saboteurs of all kinds within bona fide Islamic groups, or even creating factions for 'false flag operations'. Virtually every Muslim-dominated region in today's world seems to be infested with such agents. Everyone knows that chimeras like the Taliban were sponsored by vested powers initially to be used against communism, which was believed to be anti-God. Today assorted fanatic groups have come up, to be used in all kinds of low- and-high-intensity conflicts, psychological operations, as and when required, to safeguard the interests of those vested groups who cunningly created them. So, true followers of Islam better act to educate their brethren properly. For it is the ignorant herd that is open to the risk of being baited, and used and abused.

http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more.php?news_id=122111&date=2012-03-03

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[ALOCHONA] Speech of the Year by Shafiul Alam Pradhan on 12th March: Frutika Effec



Shafiul Alam Prodhan owner of Jatio Gonotanrik Party (JAGPA) and Khaleda Zia led alliance leader delivered a speech of the year 2012 which will surely go into guineas book of record for telling the truth for the first time. I hope some day he will confess about seven murders (Kohinur murder) for which he was in jail. He would be hanged if it was not Gen. Zia who freed him to create anti Awami League political platform.


I wonder whether Shafiul Alam Prodhan will be able to remain his Gofer –Lackey- Minion role!
Must watch video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_XdxdRU62o&list=UU_agUWytd554ZMri0x_TWag&index=1&feature=plcp

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Maryland, U.S.A.


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Re: [mukto-mona] Awami League's moral defeat



Is AL really unsure about itself as has been asserted by Mahfuz Anam? To me it looks AL is oversure about itself. It happens when the party perception is that whatever it is doing is perfect and whatever the opposition is doing is bad. This perception makes the ruling party think that it will have absolute support from the majority for whatever action it will take against opposition. This also indicates that the ruling party is gradually getting isolated from the general masses although it hardly realizes it. The situation gets worse for the party because of the blind and motivated support it gets from a handful of opportunists. I think AL is currently suffering from group think syndrome. A very small group is deciding on the major issues and the rest are keeping their mouths shut in fear that they may lose their jobs, positions, or opportunities. 
Looks like bad days are ahead. Time for Mohiuddin Anwars to rejoice is knocking on the door. 

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On Mar 13, 2012, at 3:36 AM, "Mohiuddin Anwar" <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote:

Sukhamya Bain had the coiurage to tell the truth. Other pro-Baksalis blindly follow their Jononetri.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Awami League's moral defeat
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:53:09 +0600

 

Politics is not exactly a place of moral standard.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

I agree with practically everything that Mahfuz Anam wrote here.
Sukhamaya Bain
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Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh



In this account from WikiIslam the prophet (maharishi in Ranindranath's term) has been shown to be most open minded. This account even seems to be 
dubious. I did a little google search to discover that the account by Ibn Ishak who on time scale was closest to prophet as a biographer has not been ununimously accepted. Acceptance of Bukhari seems to be less. 
It is really almost impossible to come up with the real truth. Research should continue. 

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On Mar 11, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:

 

 The holy Koran has 'revelations' from earlier sources as well, e.g., Oracles of Delphi and other temples, the Old and New Testaments etc.  Other literature on Islam cites to Umar being proud on receiving the revelation on hijab before the Prophet.

Now, may I add from WikiIslam,

"The reason that Muslim women wear the hijab today is not a spiritual one, nor is it a matter of piety. Covering the hair/face cannot be considered an act of modesty because Muslim men are not required to cover theirs. The sole reason they do it is because Umar bin Al-Khattab, a companion of Muhammad, wished that Muhammad would reveal verses from Allah requiring women to wear it. When Muhammad did not oblige, Umar did not pray to Allah for assistance. Umar knew he had to make it personal for Muhammad himself in order to bring the revelation down. He followed Muhammad's wives out when they went to go to the toilet and made his presence known. When Muhammad heard of this, the revelation that Umar had so wanted was sent down from Allah. Umar knew where these revelations were really coming from, which is why he pestered Muhammad and harassed his wives instead of asking Allah.

Although the revelational circumstances for the hijab were ridiculous, the consequences that we can see to this day, are not. The requirement for the hijab has had the effect of placing full responsibility for Muslim-male self control onto the females - freeing the men of responsibility for their actions if they see an unveiled woman. Lack of self control is not an inherent attribute to men, because men in non-Islamic societies do not have such self control issues; when it is rare to see a woman covered so in these societies. The hijab's purpose, as revealed and to this day, is designed to protect Muslim females from the now acceptable behavior of Muslim males; behavior which has been deemed socially acceptable precisely because of the requirement of Muslim females to wear the hijab."

One may notice that the Prophet did not prevent Umar from stalking his wives even to the place of defecation.  It might so happen that he actually instructed to spy on them.


 

Thank you for sharing the source of your post. We can learn from it as well.

However do note that, ALL revelations in the holy Qur'an were revealed to prophet Muhammad (PBUH) NOT anyone else. Hazrat Omar (RA) might have wished for the clearer direction about the level of modesty required and that is acceptable to me. Revelations only came to messengers of Allah (SWT) not to anyone else. It would be a mistake to think Allah revealed any verse to Omar (RA).

A complete body cover excluding the eyes

Also note that, the covering the whole body but eyes is not part of the revelation. It is an assumption and there are differences of opinions among scholars of Islam. Generally some scholars feel women are required to cover whole body ( Including face except eyes) but majority of Islamic scholars feel just covering head and rest of the body is required. So you may see Muslim women with face veil (Niqaab) and others cover their heads and body (Hijab). So there are differences of opinions about "Levels of modesty" among scholars.


Shalom!


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To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 11, 2012 7:42 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
Narrated 'Aisha: The wives of the Prophet used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqia at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. 'Umar used to say to the Prophet "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam'a the wife of the Prophet went out at 'Isha' time and she was a tall lady. 'Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes).
Sahih Bukhari 1:4:148

The quotation above is one of the versions of the story.


2012/3/10 Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
 
I read somewhere (maybe K, Armstrong) that veil was a sign of aristocracy and that's why prophet's wives and other women had to wear it. I believe every sura has to be analyzed in the light of the given context. 

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On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 

The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh). 

>>>>>>> You are wrong AGAIN! Get a grip on yourself.....


"O; Prophet (Muhammad)! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside)........

[ Source: Al Qur'an 33:59 ]



For basic info on this topic, click on the link below..

By: Prof. Maqsood Jafri


Shalom!

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To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh).  Across the history of Islam, the use of burkha or other versions of purdah by Muslim women was never universal.

2012/3/8 Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>
 
What is going on in Bangladesh one after another?
 
 

Wed 7 Mar 2012 10:30 PM BdST

rtnnনীলফামারী, ৭ মার্চ (আরটিএনএন ডটনেট)-- সৈয়দপুরে লায়ন্স স্কুল অ্যান্ড কলেজে বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরিধান নিষিদ্ধ করা হয়েছে। ড্রেসকোড পালনের অজুহাতে এ মৌখিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা জারি করায় ছাত্রী ও অভিভাবকদের মধ্যে তীব্র ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়েছে।


এ অবস্থায় বিপাকে পড়েছে পর্দা পালনে আগ্রহী শিক্ষার্থীরা। অভিভাবকার প্রতিবাদে সোচ্চার হলেও স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় দিন দিন ক্ষোভ দানা বাঁধছে।

জানা গেছে, গত ২৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি ওই বিদ্যালয়ে অ্যাসেম্বিলি চলাকালে কর্তৃপক্ষ উপস্থিত শিক্ষার্থী ও শিক্ষকদের মৌখিকভাবে জানিয়ে দেয় যে, আজ থেকে স্কুলে আসতে হলে বোরকা বা স্কার্ফ পরা চলবে না। এরপরও কেউ তা পরে তাকে ট্রান্সফার সার্টিফিকেট (টিসি) নিয়ে অন্যত্র চলে যাওয়ার পরামর্শ দেয়া হয়।

পরদিন কিছু শিক্ষার্থী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে স্কুলে গেলে তাদের বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ ক্লাসে গিয়ে খুলে ফেলার নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়। কিন্তু অনেকে না খোলার কারণে তাদেরকে ক্লাসে অপমান করা হয় এবং সিন্ধান্ত অনুসরণে কঠোরভাবে পুনরায় নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।

এরপরও গত শনিবার কোনো কোনো ছাত্রী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে গেলে তাদের অ্যাসেম্বিলির সময় সবার সামনে তা খুলতে বাধ্য করা হয়। এর পর বিষয়টি ছাত্রীদের মাধ্যমে অভিভাবকসহ সৈয়দপুরের সচেতন মহলে জানাজানি হলে ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়।

স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় �=A




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Re: [mukto-mona] Religious Fallacy



In the ancient days, "The main argument for God is the first cause: there must be something which originates motion, and this something must itself be unmoved" - wrote Bertrand Russell[History of Western Philosophy, p.180].  Thus God was the unmoved mover in the time of Aristotle.  He was placed in the ninth heaven, the eighth was for the stars, other seven for the Ptolemaic planets.  During Pythagoras's time, only seven heavens were said to exist.  However, about fifty 'unmoved movers' were discovered with the consequent demise of the theory.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Religious scriptures describe 'Heaven' as a sinless world in the afterlife, filled with heavenly amenities, such as wine, hoories, etc. Such description tells me that scriptures were emanated from the human imaginations. This description of heaven creates a fallacy with the formlessness of the God.

 

In most religions, especially in Islam and Christianity, God is formless, so - no one can see Him even though He is present everywhere (Omnipresent). As per Islam and Christianity, even the most pious ones among us can't see Him also in this world. One can see Him only in a formlessness state. Since we attain formless state after death, therefore, we can see God in our afterlife only.  Quite a logical argument, but this logic falls apart when we think about everything else (such as wine, virgins, etc.) we will enjoy in the God's paradise (Heaven). To enjoy all those amenities of heaven, we will need to attain a solid form. How can we have both forms? If we can exist in both forms, so should God. And, if God can exist in both forms, most pious ones among us should be able see Him in this world also.  Isn't this a fallacy?

 

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[mukto-mona] Religious Fallacy



Religious scriptures describe 'Heaven' as a sinless world in the afterlife, filled with heavenly amenities, such as wine, hoories, etc. Such description tells me that scriptures were emanated from the human imaginations. This description of heaven creates a fallacy with the formlessness of the God.

 

In most religions, especially in Islam and Christianity, God is formless, so - no one can see Him even though He is present everywhere (Omnipresent). As per Islam and Christianity, even the most pious ones among us can't see Him also in this world. One can see Him only in a formlessness state. Since we attain formless state after death, therefore, we can see God in our afterlife only.  Quite a logical argument, but this logic falls apart when we think about everything else (such as wine, virgins, etc.) we will enjoy in the God's paradise (Heaven). To enjoy all those amenities of heaven, we will need to attain a solid form. How can we have both forms? If we can exist in both forms, so should God. And, if God can exist in both forms, most pious ones among us should be able see Him in this world also.  Isn't this a fallacy?

 

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Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh



 

Where else you can find the criticism of your religion? Just because information came from a Christian Website does not make them false or incorrect. It appears that you are trying to white-wash all these information as 'FALSE.' You need to provide better arguments than what you did, Mr. Q. Rahman.

 

Recently, we have discussed many criticisms of Swami Vivekananda and Shree Choitannya Mohaprovu. I did not see anybody broad-brushing those criticisms as 'FALSE.' I know there are some incestuous stories about Hindu Gods and Goddesses. It was not so improbable in those days; moral values were different at that time.

 

Therefore, don't be so quick to broad-brush any information. You have to judge them in the context of the time. You are too defensive about your religion, which makes your arguments unauthentic and unrealistic.

 

Jiten Roy



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From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 12, 2012, 8:40 AM

 
You have "Interesting" way to learn and share information about Islam. You pick up this FALSE information from "Christian web sites" to show your "Knowledge" of Islam!!!

It may work with some ignorant people but here is a background of the organization that published this FALSE article. It is a CHRISTIAN website spreading FALSE information. ( Taken from the this website on Islamophobic Christian hate site)

Yeah statements like this [ Hafsa: "Mom Where is Dad"? kinds gives away the "Red neck" authors of arab history ???? =-O;-)

Just read the mission statement from his hate filled "Christian missionary" site. They do similar things to Hindus as well (By distorting history and confusing people).


Our Theology

This ministry was established as a Christian organization. Our beliefs, methods and activities are based on and influenced by Christian ethics. Our members are Christians who belong to different Christian denominations. We do not interfere in each persons beliefs and practices. However, we all share the belief in a basic set of doctrines recognized and accepted by most mainstream Christian churches. These beliefs are incorporated in what is known as "the Nicene Creed."



This website is known as "Islam review". Those who want to distort information about Islam to confuse most Muslims!!

I have been spending time to answer consistent FALSE misleading information from ONE member of Mukto-mona. So far I have taken such absurd and untrue statements as "Honest misunderstanding". This time I wanted to find out how just ONE member consistently comes up with WRONG information about Islam?

 I am glad to report that, I found a desperate person who is ready to go to absurd length to spread FALSEHOOD on Islam. I would request all members to be protector of truth, fairness and knowledge. This is ugly face of human nature and should be addressed. 


I still like to think, most of us want to live peacefully. Let us see where can we go from here....



Shalom!!




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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Mar 12, 2012 3:42 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 

Here is another version of the episode which ultimately brought about the war of roses between the prophet and his wives:

ALLAH FROWNS ON THOSE WHO ABSTAIN FROM HAVING SEX WITH THEIR SLAVE GIRLS

( Surah No. 66 AT- TAHRIM )
CONTEXT OF THE SURAH **
It was Hafsa's turn to sleep with the Prophet .. Her maid Maria Quptia ( a gift from King of Alexandria)  was also in her room  when prophet walked in.. Maria was a very  attractive and  voluptuous  young   teenager..  She  aroused carnal desires  in any man who looked at her; then our Prophet was not any man, he was endowed with 30 man libido* by Allah. .
Narrated Qatada:
 " Prophet was given the  sexual strength of thirty men"
To be alone with Maria, Prophet sent Hafsa to her Dad's house  with a phony excuse that Umar wanted to see her.
UMAR WAS AWAY PERFORMING SUNNA
Umar was not home,  when Hafsa reached her Dad's place few houses  down the street.
Hafsa: "Mom Where is Dad"?
Mother: "He has gone to the Al Manasi field near Baqia  to defecate"...
Hafsa:  "Why doesn't he go to the field  behind  our house"..
Mother:  "Because it is a sunna to relieve yourself at the place where Prophet relieves himself"..
Hafsa: "I will wait for him" .
Mother :"It may be a long wait. He   hides there afterwards to spy on  prophet's wives".
Hafbsa: "Spy on prophet's wives, what for"? .
Mother  "To make  sure   they are veiled  according to aya 33.59  when they come to relieve themselves. As you know this aya was sent* by Allah at your Dad's request".
Narrated 'Aisha:
(the wife of the Prophet) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Apostle "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam'a went out and she was a tall woman. 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while she was (defecating)  in a  group, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He ('Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the verse of veiling 33.59. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1)
* Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 395:
Narrated 'Umar (bin Al-Khattab):  Allah agreed with me on three things and revealed ayas, one of them was
the verse of the veiling of the women (33.59) .
.Hafsa:  "Well I cant wait that long.  It is my turn with Prophet ,  he must be in bed   waiting for me".
PROPHET IN BED BUT NOT WAITING
When Hafsa  returned, she found Preophet in   bed  but not waiting. He was in action with her maid  Maria. Hafsa was outraged (she had a temper of her Dad Umar) and started hollering at him.
Hafsa: "Rasulullah you lied and and deceived  me to screw my maid"?.
Prophet:" Hafsa mind your language. Aya 33.32* says  you should  talk to Allah's  Prophet in an a honorable manner".
* 33.32 "O wives of the Prophet! Speak to the prophet  in an honorable manner"..
Hafsa: "I will speak honorably to the   prophet when  the Prophet  stops acting dishonorably  himself".
Prophet: "Having sex with slave girls is not dishonorable.  Allah has made*  them  halal for me".
*33.50 "Mohammed , sex with slave girls and captured women is halal for you*
Hafsa:" I don't give a rat's behind who is  is halal for you and who  is  is not .. You can have  sex with a she camel  for all I care. But I don't want it   in my bed and on my night".
Prophet: "Hafsa ,calm down.  I will tell you something. If you keep this incident  a  secret  between you and me and don't tell any one,  I take an oath that  I will never  touch  Maria  again. And Please cool down first . Go have a drink of cold water....
Hafsa: " O.K. I have to go pee also...
AYA 66.1 AND 66.2  REVEALED
 Hafsa returned after a short while and  found her husband again  in  bed  with Maria.
Hafsa:  "Rasulullah, You have a  short memory.  You had just said you will not touch her again".
Prophet: "Yes I did,  but Allah revealed  aya  66.1 after you left, it says "Mohammed why do you forbid yourself  what Allah has made lawful to you just to please your wife"
Hafsa:  "What about the  oath  you took."
Prophet::   "Allah   dissolved my oath" by aya 66.2 which says Allah has ordained for you  the dissolution of your oath. And Allah is your Maula".
ALLAH SPIED  FOR THE PROPHET
        Next  morning when Prophet  returned from Fajr prayer,  his wives gave him dirty looks and a silent treatment instead of happily greeting him like every day... As smart as our prophet was, he knew right away  that Hafsa, had ratted and had divulged last night's incident to all other wives who incidentally  hated Maria for her beauty and prophet's  fondness for her.. Prophet was pissed off and  rushed into Hafsa's room: "When I told  you   to keep last night's incident with Maria a secret to yourself, I trusted you;  why did you spread it"? .
Hafsa: "Who informed you that I spread it"?
Prophet :  "Allah informed* me":
*  66.3  "The prophet had trusted one of  his wives with a certain incident, then she spread it, and GOD let him know about it. He then told his wife,she asked him, "Who informed you of this?" He said, "I was informed by  Allah".
Hafsa started trembling with fear. She had no idea Allah spied for the prophet and tattletaled to him his  wives private talks and gossips.
MISBEHAVING  WIVES  WILL BURN IN HELL FIRE
 Angry Prophet then gathered all his resentful    wives and conveyed the following chilling message from Allah  to them which had just arrived.
66.5 "If  Mohammed  divorced you all,  Allah will give him in exchange wives better than you who are  submissive and  devout".
That message was a death sentence to the scared wives. A divorce meant starving to death since no body was allowed to marry Prophet's wife according to an earlier aya...
Prophet continued:
66.10,11 " On one hand wives of Allah's  prophets Noah and Lut misbehaved with their husbands and they were put in hell fire. On the other hand wife of the kafir Pharoah was well behaved and  she was awarded paradise"..
ONE MONTH  BREAK EXCLUSIVELY WITH MARIA
      All the wives started wailing. Starving to death was one thing ; burning in hellfire for ever was something else.They grabbed his feet and  begged  him for mercy.  The merciful prophet then took pity on them and decided to apply  abstention clause of aya 4.34  (abstaining from sex  with wives as a disciplinary action ) He could have divorced them like Allah suggested or  beaten them under scouging clause of  aya 4.34 .
(Here are the specifications for  wife beating for our momin brothers who practice it or intend to practice it):
   He stayed away from all his wives for a month*  and slept  exclusively  with  Maria  to humiliate them  further and make them jealous .
"The Prophet did not go to his wives because of the secret which Hafsa had disclosed to 'Aisha, and he said that he would not go to his wives for one month as he was angry with them when Allah admonished him for his oath that he would not approach Maria".
 Allah also decided to pitch-in in the  misery of Prophet"s  wives    by  making  Maria pregnant with a baby boy  ( Ibrahim), something Mo desired most and which could not be delivered by any of the nine resident  wives.
** Note: Several embarrassed  sahabis made false   hadiths  later about this sura to protect good name of Mohammed. They fabricated the story and said it was honey and not Maria   which prophet took  an oath to  abstain from .  That is ridiculous and does not make any sense.  Here is what Ibn Saad wrote in "Tabaqat"
"Waqidi has informed us that Abu Bakr has narrated that the messenger of Allah (PBUH) had sexual intercourse with Maria in the house of Hafsa.. She told the prophet, O Messenger of Allah, do you do this in my house and during my turn? The messenger said, control yourself and let me go because I make her haram to me. Hafsa said, I do not accept, unless you swear for me. That Hazrat (his holiness) said, by Allah I will not contact her again [Tabaqat v. 8 p. 223 Publisher Entesharat-e Farhang va Andisheh Tehran 1382 solar  h ( 2003) Translator Dr. Mohammad Mahdavi Damghani]  




2012/3/11 Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
 
          Veiling of women or 'purdah' system has always been associated with upper class from the beginning of civilization everywhere in the world. It is funny that the Islamists politics is claiming it to be a paradigmatic Islamic dress code.  Other than bland, mildly toned general advice to women on modesty, the Qur'an surprisingly says nothing about mandating hijab or niqab for women. That rogue, Abul Ala Moududi, the father of modern Islamic fundamentalism, was quite annoyed at the fact that the Qur'an does not mandate hijab. 
 
         It is said that the Bedouin society in Arabia, where Jews, Christians and Muslims, men and women, wore dresses covering their heads, they did not practice 'purdah' in the way we know it now, and that it was imported from the more cosmopolitan Sassanians as a status symbol for women by the fledgling Muslim community.
 
          Anyway, you can see it in the women of Bangali society of all religions -- lower class working women have more freedom of movement than the middle caste or class. In our warm and humid climate, an extra item of clothing is burdensome and uncomfortable, not always desirable by choice. 
 
[I have an article on the subject where I analyze the verses in the Qur'an pertaining to women and hijab, published in 2004 both in Dhaka and Pakistan, blogged in numerous sites and is archived in Islamic Research Foundation Information]
 
         Farida Majid
 

To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: subimal@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 22:40:52 -0500

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
I read somewhere (maybe K, Armstrong) that veil was a sign of aristocracy and that's why prophet's wives and other women had to wear it. I believe every sura has to be analyzed in the light of the given context. 

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On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 


The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh). 

>>>>>>> You are wrong AGAIN! Get a grip on yourself.....


"O; Prophet (Muhammad)! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside)........

[ Source: Al Qur'an 33:59 ]



For basic info on this topic, click on the link below..

By: Prof. Maqsood Jafri


Shalom!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh).  Across the history of Islam, the use of burkha or other versions of purdah by Muslim women was never universal.

2012/3/8 Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>
 
What is going on in Bangladesh one after another?
 
 

Wed 7 Mar 2012 10:30 PM BdST

rtnnনীলফামারী, ৭ মার্চ (আরটিএনএন ডটনেট)-- সৈয়দপুরে লায়ন্স স্কুল অ্যান্ড কলেজে বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরিধান নিষিদ্ধ করা হয়েছে। ড্রেসকোড পালনের অজুহাতে এ মৌখিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা জারি করায় ছাত্রী ও অভিভাবকদের মধ্যে তীব্র ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়েছে।

এ অবস্থায় বিপাকে পড়েছে পর্দা পালনে আগ্রহী শিক্ষার্থীরা। অভিভাবকার প্রতিবাদে সোচ্চার হলেও স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় দিন দিন ক্ষোভ দানা বাঁধছে।

জানা গেছে, গত ২৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি ওই বিদ্যালয়ে অ্যাসেম্বিলি চলাকালে কর্তৃপক্ষ উপস্থিত শিক্ষার্থী ও শিক্ষকদের মৌখিকভাবে জানিয়ে দেয় যে, আজ থেকে স্কুলে আসতে হলে বোরকা বা স্কার্ফ পরা চলবে না। এরপরও কেউ তা পরে তাকে ট্রান্সফার সার্টিফিকেট (টিসি) নিয়ে অন্যত্র চলে যাওয়ার পরামর্শ দেয়া হয়।

পরদিন কিছু শিক্ষার্থী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে স্কুলে গেলে তাদের বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ ক্লাসে গিয়ে খুলে ফেলার নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়। কিন্তু অনেকে না খোলার কারণে তাদেরকে ক্লাসে অপমান করা হয় এবং সিন্ধান্ত অনুসরণে কঠোরভাবে পুনরায় নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।

এরপরও গত শনিবার কোনো কোনো ছাত্রী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে গেলে তাদের অ্যাসেম্বিলির সময় সবার সামনে তা খুলতে বাধ্য করা হয়। এর পর বিষয়টি ছাত্রীদের মাধ্যমে অভিভাবকসহ সৈয়দপুরের সচেতন মহলে জানাজানি হলে ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়।

স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় �=A




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