--- On Wed, 5/20/09, kazi Mohammad Ismail <kazimohammadismail@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: kazi Mohammad Ismail <kazimohammadismail@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Grand Rally Against Tipaimukh Dam Running at Paltan Maidan Dhaka
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:42 PM
| Thus you need to surrendar your own sovereignty to India. India helps us, so you and current gov'nt wants to pay something wheather we get water or not, wheather our land is going to be water less sandy desert, wheather we can get our right to have free water resource or not? how patriotic u are? are u Indian? if it's ok, see what asami people saying. they are also protesting against the Dam see the link and read this kazi mohammad ismail
--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Grand Rally Against Tipaimukh Dam Running at Paltan Maidan Dhaka
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 7:40 AM
| Tipaimukh will not cause any harm to Bangladesh as asserted by our water and inland water transport ministers. Whatever Jamat and others are doing are reflections of their anti-Indian attitude. India brought our independence, so we must be grateful to them. SH
Toronto
--- On Wed, 5/20/09, kazi Mohammad Ismail <kazimohammadismail@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: kazi Mohammad Ismail <kazimohammadismail@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Grand Rally Against Tipaimukh Dam Running at Paltan Maidan Dhaka
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Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:08 AM
| A Grand Rally organized by Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami Dhaka City Unit at Paltan Maidan, Dhaka . The rally was organized to protest construction of Tipaimukh Dam by India violating all International Law and norms. Maulana Matiur Rahman Nizami, Ameer , Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami and ex-minister of Bangladesh Government was present at the Rally as Cheif Guest. Presided over by Rafiqul Islam Khan the grand protest rally was addressed among others by Ali Ahsan Muhammad Mujahid Secretary General of Jamaat and ex-minister, Moulana Delawar Hossain Saydee, Mohammad Kamaruzzaman, Abdul Kader Molla, A.T.M. Azharul Islam, Barrister Abdur Razzak, Professor Mujibur Rahman, Tasneem Alam, Dr. Shafiqur Rahman, M Shamsul Islam MP, Mia Golam Parwar, Ehsanul Mahbub Zubayer, Moazzem Hossain Helal, Hamidur Rahman Azad MP, Nurul Islam Bulbul and Moulana Abdul Halim. Among the speakers Sylhet regional leaders were attended for deliberating the harmful attempt by India by constructing Tipaimukh Dam. The rally is the biggest political protest in Bangladesh after the New Government Formed. The rally demanded to suspend two ministers of the Government immediately for supporting the construction of Tipaimukh Dam. The rally also declared that peoples of Bangladesh will protest contruction of tipaimukh dam by teir life. Kazi Mohammad Ismail |
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Dear Wohid,
Do you understand yourselves what you wrote?
--- On Wed, 5/20/09, Wohid <bidrohee@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Wohid <bidrohee@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 6:58 AM
That's a nice tactical attempt to sell vegetables in rice market (otherwise known through a popular Bangla proverb "dhaner haate oal namano") to detract popular attention. Why do you still need to run after MBI Munshi and refute what he says unless you treat that an assault on you personally or against your interests? If you have a different view or that you want to prove that the Pilkhana massacre was planned and executed by some other external or internal forces, you have all the right to prove and convince your audience. Rather than establishing your case, you are getting self-inflicted by others' statement that establishes Indian involvement. Unless Indian involvement essentially means your involvement, you have no reason to get burnt by MBI's statement. Regards. Wohid
From: musasarkar <m_musa92870@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:45:35 PM
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why?
The people like you might consider the write-ups of MBI Munshi as holy scriptures, but to many he is nothing but a clown. His write-ups are based on unverified news source and accounts, gossips, rumors, and extreme right-wing biaed and blindly partisan media. After the Mymensingh bomb blast, he wrote the following: .....According to Mr. Sinha (Indian External Affairs Minister Yashwant Sinha in `The Daily Star' (February 8, 2003)), Dhaka has not been sensitive to Delhi's security needs while ignoring the fact that most terrorist attacks in Bangladesh have been backed, financed, and planned by India. The Mymensingh cinema blasts clearly suggest an Indian link to that explosion which killed almost a dozen people. .......... After the bomb blasts in Mymensingh district several national newspapers reported that a junior commissioned officer of the army, a former lance corporal and a civilian have been arrested on charge of spying for an Indian intelligence agency. One of the accused is charged with having supplied maps, designs, employment files of important army officials, directories of various formation training manuals, load table, move plan, permanent addresses of officers of different units, organizational structure of different units, list of arms and manpower, abbreviation books and resolutions of important meetings and other information. This particular accused sold off confidential documents to India for a large sum of money. A fact that will be conveniently forgotten by our intellectuals, press and media within a short span of time. A point that confirms my conclusions concerning the need for a new war of independence and the manner in which it will be fought and the means by which it shall be won. (From Akhand Hindustan by MBI Munshi) Now after 1/11, we know the real bombers of almost all the terrorist attacks in Bangladesh for last 10 years were the religious terrorists patronized by the people Mr. Munshi admires the most. It was the moderate and left-leaning media (the ones he really despises) who were right about the culprits. --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Nirob Dorshok <nistabdhota@ ...> wrote: > > Hi Shamim & Musa: > That is absolutely absurd and indeed slanderous. This forum must not be a haven of fools to swallow whatever you feed us. We know where you come from. Well, anyone who reads your e-mails in series can easily understand your mission and motif. No wonder if MBI Munshi turns to you as an ISI guy just because his statement is opposed to your great vested interest. I don’t want to even mention what your vested interest is. I would rather leave that with the learned Alochoks to read last 10-20 of your e-mails that will adequately and unequivocally expose your mission, vision, motif and vested interest. If your statement that MBI Munshi is an ISI member or a Pak army general holds true then you guys must be the fore-runners of RAW. Why do you feel so nervous, perturbed and agitated when the role of India or its intelligence is at issue? Remember, your ignominious blame game on Munshi or such other patriotic intellectual fellows will never derogate from their > position rather expose your monstrous agenda assigned by RAW. Cool down gentlemen, and try to realize that if you are Bangladeshis, it is Bangladesh that deserves your allegiance and not India or any other country. BTW, we are still in dark as to what point you wanted to make out of your attribution of MBI Munshi to ISI or Pak army in your reaction to his writing below on the issue of BDR mutiny. All people of Bangladesh irrespective of different political orientations believe that the mutiny was an outcome of a conspiracy. All people, except BAKSALite-BALists, believe this was an Indian conspiracy which I believe is subject to probe and yet to be proved. MBI Munshi didn’t try to establish any further than this. However, we fail to understand why his thesis hits your sentiment to the extent that you had to brand him as an ISI or Pak army man. You may have a different opinion from him â€" you may wish to prove that it is rather ISI that is behind the > BDR carnage. That is absolutely fine in this discourse and surely in line with democratic norm. But instead of taking that route, why do you succumb to death to hear allegations against RAW or India in general? Only a thin-skinned RAW appointed agent can react like this. Why you need to defend India even at the cost of Bangladesh's interests? You still claim as the pioneers and champions of our independence and sovereignty while treat those who defend the interests of Bangladesh as agents of Pakistan simply because they cannot afford to barter the interests of Bangladesh with India’s like you guys? > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Shamim Chowdhury veirsmill@.. . > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com > Sent: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009 9:10:56 AM > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR Mutiny and if so why? > > > > > > Every reader must be aware of MBI Munshi and his ISI/Pakistan defense connection. MBI Munshi works as SENIOR MEMBER with a rank of Major General of Pakistan Defense Forum. Please go to this link to know about his long Pakistan ISI connection. > Link: http://www.defence. pk/forums/ members/mbi- munshi.html . Once you take his background in consideration, you will understand where his write up is paid from. >  > Thanks > Shamim Chowdhury > Maryland, USA > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "M.B.I. Munshi" MBIMunshi@ .> wrote: > > > > > > It seems that the just released army probe report into the BDR mutiny > > missed an important element concerning the indecision in taking an > > offensive military option against the mutineers. From the executive > > summary that appeared in virtually all the newspapers there was no > > mention of the cause for indecisiveness and lack of preparation and > > readiness of military equipment and weaponry. It appears that many of > > our senior military officers were in India on a joint training exercise > > during those critical days. Was this mere coincidence or a pre-planned > > exercise to divert a section of our officers and soldiers away from > > Dhaka in those critical days? I will leave that to the readers to decide > > but I think the nation deserves an answer. > > > > > > > > India, Bangladesh continue joint military exercise despite mutiny in > > Dhaka > > > > NEW DELHI, Feb. 26 (Xinhua) -- India and Bangladesh continued their > > first joint military exercise in West Bengal's Jalpaiguri district > > Thursday despite an on-going mutiny in Bangladesh, reported the private > > Indo-Asian News Service. > > > > The Indian Army, Air Force and Bangladesh Army started on Feb. 22 the > > two-week exercise "to test their battlefield tactics," said the report. > > > > "The exercise is not in any ways affected by the developments in > > Bangladesh," the report quoted an unnamed senior army official as > > saying. > > > > Indian Army and Air Force personnel held a firepower demonstration at a > > firing range Tuesday, while some of the most powerful weapons in the > > Indian armoury, like Bofors guns, T-27 guns from the artillery and > > MiG-27, MiG-17 and Cheetah helicopters took part in the exercise, said > > the report. > > > > The exercise is also aimed at anti-terrorist purposes to fight > > "terrorist and insurgency problems", said the report. > > > > Thousands of Bangladesh Rifles para-military soldiers staged a mutiny > > Wednesday in Dhaka against to press for a series of demands including > > increasing salary and getting better facilities. > > > > http://news. xinhuanet. com/english/ 2009-02/26/ content_10903673 .htm > > <http://news. xinhuanet. com/english/ 2009-02/26/ content_10903673 .htm> > > > > > > > Need a Holiday? 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Mr. Wohid, What I wanted to say is what MBI Munshi writes now, later turns out to
be untrue. May Allah give you enough intelligence to understand that. --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Wohid <bidrohee@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Musa Sarkar;
> That's a nice tactical attempt to sell vegetables in rice market
(otherwise known through a popular Bangla proverb "dhaner haate oal
namano") to detract popular attention. Why do you still need to run
after MBI Munshi and refute what he says unless you treat that an
assault on you personally or against your interests? If you have a
different view or that you want to prove that the Pilkhana massacre was
planned and executed by some other external or internal forces, you have
all the right to prove and convince your audience. Rather thanÂ
establishing your case, you are getting self-inflicted by others'
statement that establishes Indian involvement. Unless Indian involvement
essentially means your involvement, you have no reason to get burnt by
MBI's statement. Regards. WohidÂ
>
> ________________________________
> From: musasarkar m_musa92870@...
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:45:35 PM
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the BDR
Mutiny and if so why?
>
>
>
>
>
> The people like you might consider the write-ups of MBI Munshi as holy
scriptures, but to many he is nothing but a clown. His write-ups
are based on unverified news source and accounts, gossips, rumors, and
extreme right-wing biaed and blindly partisan media. After the
Mymensingh bomb blast, he wrote the following:
> .....According to Mr. Sinha (Indian External Affairs Minister Yashwant
Sinha in `The Daily Star' (February 8, 2003)), Dhaka has not been
sensitive to Delhi's security needs while ignoring the fact that most
terrorist attacks in Bangladesh have been backed, financed, and planned
by India. The Mymensingh cinema blasts clearly suggest an Indian link to
that explosion which killed almost a dozen people.
> ..........
> After the bomb blasts in Mymensingh district several national
newspapers reported that a junior commissioned officer of the army, a
former lance corporal and a civilian have been arrested on charge of
spying for an Indian intelligence agency. One of the accused is charged
with having supplied maps, designs, employment files of important army
officials, directories of various formation training manuals, load
table, move plan, permanent addresses of officers of different units,
organizational structure of different units, list of arms and manpower,
abbreviation books and resolutions of important meetings and other
information. This particular accused sold off confidential documents to
India for a large sum of money. A fact that will be conveniently
forgotten by our intellectuals, press and media within a short span of
time. A point that confirms my conclusions concerning the need for a new
war of independence and the manner in which it will be fought and
> the means by which it shall be won. (From Akhand Hindustan by MBI
Munshi)
> Now after 1/11, we know the real bombers of almost all the
terrorist attacks in Bangladesh for last 10 years were the religious
terrorists patronized by the people Mr. Munshi admires the most.Â
It was the moderate and left-leaning media (the ones he really despises)
who were right about the culprits. --- In alochona@yahoogroup
s.com, Nirob Dorshok <nistabdhota@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Shamim & Musa:
> > That is absolutely absurd and indeed slanderous. This forum must not
be a haven of fools to swallow whatever you feed us. We know where you
come from. Well, anyone who reads your e-mails in series can easily
understand your mission and motif. No wonder if MBI Munshi turns to you
as an ISI guy just because his statement is opposed to your great vested
interest. I don’t want to even mention what your vested
interest is. I would rather leave that with the learned Alochoks to read
last 10-20 of your e-mails that will adequately and unequivocally expose
your mission, vision, motif and vested interest. If your statement that
MBI Munshi is an ISI member or a Pak army general holds true then you
guys must be the fore-runners of RAW. Why do you feel so nervous,
perturbed and agitated when the role of India or its intelligence is at
issue? Remember, your ignominious blame game on Munshi or such other
patriotic intellectual fellows will never derogate from
> their
> > position rather expose your monstrous agenda assigned by RAW. Cool
down gentlemen, and try to realize that if you are Bangladeshis, it is
Bangladesh that deserves your allegiance and not India or any other
country. BTW, we are still in dark as to what point you wanted to make
out of your attribution of MBI Munshi to ISI or Pak army in your
reaction to his writing below on the issue of BDR mutiny. All people of
Bangladesh irrespective of different political orientations believe that
the mutiny was an outcome of a conspiracy. All people, except
BAKSALite-BALists, believe this was an Indian conspiracy which I believe
is subject to probe and yet to be proved. MBI Munshi didn’t
try to establish any further than this. However, we fail to understand
why his thesis hits your sentiment to the extent that you had to brand
him as an ISI or Pak army man. You may have a different opinion from him
â€" you may wish to prove that it is rather ISI that is
> behind the
> > BDR carnage. That is absolutely fine in this discourse and surely in
line with democratic norm. But instead of taking that route, why do you
succumb to death to hear allegations against RAW or India in general?
Only a thin-skinned RAW appointed agent can react like this. Why you
need to defend India even at the cost of Bangladesh's interests? You
still claim as the pioneers and champions of our independence and
sovereignty while treat those who defend the interests of Bangladesh as
agents of Pakistan simply because they cannot afford to barter the
interests of Bangladesh with India’s like you guys?
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > From: Shamim Chowdhury veirsmill@ .
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009 9:10:56 AM
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Was our military short-staffed during the
BDR Mutiny and if so why?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Every reader must be aware of MBI Munshi and his ISI/Pakistan
defense connection. MBI Munshi works as SENIOR MEMBER with a rank of
Major General of Pakistan Defense Forum. Please go to this link to know
about his long Pakistan ISI connection.
> > Link: http://www.defence. pk/forums/ members/mbi- munshi.htmlÂÂ
. Once you take his background in consideration, you will understand
where his write up is paid from.
> > ÂÂ
> > Thanks
> > Shamim Chowdhury
> > Maryland, USA
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "M.B.I. Munshi" MBIMunshi@ .>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems that the just released army probe report into the BDR
mutiny
> > > missed an important element concerning the indecision in taking an
> > > offensive military option against the mutineers. From the
executive
> > > summary that appeared in virtually all the newspapers there was no
> > > mention of the cause for indecisiveness and lack of preparation
and
> > > readiness of military equipment and weaponry. It appears that many
of
> > > our senior military officers were in India on a joint training
exercise
> > > during those critical days. Was this mere coincidence or a
pre-planned
> > > exercise to divert a section of our officers and soldiers away
from
> > > Dhaka in those critical days? I will leave that to the readers to
decide
> > > but I think the nation deserves an answer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > India, Bangladesh continue joint military exercise despite mutiny
in
> > > Dhaka
> > >
> > > NEW DELHI, Feb. 26 (Xinhua) -- India and Bangladesh continued
their
> > > first joint military exercise in West Bengal's Jalpaiguri district
> > > Thursday despite an on-going mutiny in Bangladesh, reported the
private
> > > Indo-Asian News Service.
> > >
> > > The Indian Army, Air Force and Bangladesh Army started on Feb. 22
the
> > > two-week exercise "to test their battlefield tactics," said the
report.
> > >
> > > "The exercise is not in any ways affected by the developments in
> > > Bangladesh," the report quoted an unnamed senior army official as
> > > saying.
> > >
> > > Indian Army and Air Force personnel held a firepower demonstration
at a
> > > firing range Tuesday, while some of the most powerful weapons in
the
> > > Indian armoury, like Bofors guns, T-27 guns from the artillery and
> > > MiG-27, MiG-17 and Cheetah helicopters took part in the exercise,
said
> > > the report.
> > >
> > > The exercise is also aimed at anti-terrorist purposes to fight
> > > "terrorist and insurgency problems", said the report.
> > >
> > > Thousands of Bangladesh Rifles para-military soldiers staged a
mutiny
> > > Wednesday in Dhaka against to press for a series of demands
including
> > > increasing salary and getting better facilities.
> > >
> > > http://news. xinhuanet. com/english/ 2009-02/26/ content_10903673
.htm
> > > <http://news. xinhuanet. com/english/ 2009-02/26/ content_10903673
.htm>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Trio took Tk 40 lakh in additional fuel bill Shakhawat Liton and Rashidul Hasan Former speaker Jamiruddin Sircar, his deputy Akhtar Hamid Siddiqui and former chief whip Khandaker Delwar Hossain took over Tk 40 lakh as fuel bills in addition to their fuel allowances during the tenure of the last parliament. According to a report prepared by the transport pool of Parliament Secretariat, Sircar drew Tk 7.73 lakh and Akhtar Hamid Tk 15.71 lakh as additional fuel bills for two Pajeros during 2004-2008 while Delwar drew Tk 16.68 lakh for a microbus during 2001-2006, sources in the secretariat said. Fuel bills for the Pajeros were also increased to 20 litres a day from 10 litres in 2005, the sources said. The three were entitled to use two vehicles each for official purpose and money for around 40 litres of fuel daily. They were also entitled to get fuel bills for trips outside Dhaka. Another document shows that Tk 4.50 lakh was allocated in 2004-05 fiscal year for the maintenance of the vehicles used by Sircar and Akhtar Hamid at that time. But the amount was increased to Tk 14.50 lakh following demands from their offices. The additional money was provided from other sectors in the budget for Parliament Secretariat, officials said. They, however, could not give the details of the expenditures. The transport pool of Parliament Secretariat has recently submitted the report to a parliamentary sub-committee led by Brig Gen (retd) SK Bakr. The sub-committee formed by the all-party parliamentary probe body is probing allegations of corruption in Parliament Secretariat and has started gathering information on transport expenditures during the last parliament. When contacted, Bakr, also a lawmaker of the ruling Awami League, told The Daily Star that they are yet to collect all the information. "So far we have examined a number of documents and we detected anomalies in the expenditures," he said. Bakr said he would submit the findings to the main probe body. He has already submitted a probe report to the main committee, asking it to recover Tk 35 lakh from Sircar, Akhtar Hamid and Delwar, which they took as medical bills illegally. Both Sircar and Delwar have refuted the allegations and questioned the authority of the probe body to investigate the alleged corruption against them. Akhtar Hamid is now behind bars. Source: http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=89006 __._,_.___ [Disclaimer: ALOCHONA Management is not liable for information contained in this message. The author takes full responsibility.]
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Tipaimukh will not cause any harm to Bangladesh as asserted by our water and inland water transport ministers. Whatever Jamat and others are doing are reflections of their anti-Indian attitude. India brought our independence, so we must be grateful to them. SH
Toronto
--- On Wed, 5/20/09, kazi Mohammad Ismail <kazimohammadismail@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: kazi Mohammad Ismail <kazimohammadismail@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Grand Rally Against Tipaimukh Dam Running at Paltan Maidan Dhaka
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Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:08 AM
A Grand Rally organized by Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami Dhaka City Unit at Paltan Maidan, Dhaka . The rally was organized to protest construction of Tipaimukh Dam by India violating all International Law and norms. Maulana Matiur Rahman Nizami, Ameer , Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami and ex-minister of Bangladesh Government was present at the Rally as Cheif Guest. Presided over by Rafiqul Islam Khan the grand protest rally was addressed among others by Ali Ahsan Muhammad Mujahid Secretary General of Jamaat and ex-minister, Moulana Delawar Hossain Saydee, Mohammad Kamaruzzaman, Abdul Kader Molla, A.T.M. Azharul Islam, Barrister Abdur Razzak, Professor Mujibur Rahman, Tasneem Alam, Dr. Shafiqur Rahman, M Shamsul Islam MP, Mia Golam Parwar, Ehsanul Mahbub Zubayer, Moazzem Hossain Helal, Hamidur Rahman Azad MP, Nurul Islam Bulbul and Moulana Abdul Halim. Among the speakers Sylhet regional leaders were attended for deliberating the harmful attempt by India by constructing Tipaimukh Dam. The rally is the biggest political protest in Bangladesh after the New Government Formed. The rally demanded to suspend two ministers of the Government immediately for supporting the construction of Tipaimukh Dam. The rally also declared that peoples of Bangladesh will protest contruction of tipaimukh dam by teir life. Kazi Mohammad Ismail |
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1.Where Mr Wazed Mia fought in 1971? He was regularly attending office at BAE.
2. Being a government officer does not automatically qualify for the State Honor. 3. Finally the Spouse of the Prime Minister does not qualify to receive state honor. SH Toronto
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From: J.A. Chowdhury <Chwdhury@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Under what catagory Wazed mia got state honour?
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 4:45 AM
Catagory No.1.
He was a freedom fighter.
Catagory No.2.
He was a government officer/Chairman of BAE
Catagory No.3
He was the Husband of present PM of Bangladesh.
Do you need more catagory?
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Under what catagory Wazed mia got state honour?
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--- On Wed, 5/20/09, saeva@aol.com <saeva@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks for sharing this old piece from Mr. Shah Abdul Halim on Prof. Abul Barakat's paper. As the analysis shows Dr. Barakat has not been thorough in his research work. He has either failed to offer supporting evidences for his claims or has exaggerated numbers for the Islamic sector of the economy. It is really sad to see the level of intellectual bankruptcy from an academic of one of the premier institutes of the country. That says a lot about one's academic preparation and the school one earned degree from.
I remember in the post-liberation period many of my class-mates opting out for an easy degree from the USSR rather than getting a hard-earned university degree from within Bangladesh. Some of these Bangladeshi students in the USSR continued their education beyond the BS/BA degrees to eventually obtain PhD degrees from schools like the Patrice Lumumba University that lack academic credibility, and are known to give 'soft' 'political' degrees to implant their brainwashed 'robots' to creep into important positions of the country that had sent them. No wonder, a classmate of mine, who was considered the worst student (with worst GPA) in my class in cadet college, was the first one amongst his batch mates to earn a PhD from one such USSR university and return home, and obviously holding now a good position in the public sector. I don't know which university did Barakat graduate from in the USSR, but if his research work is one barometer to judge his credibility, I am simply not impressed and am genuinely concerned.
Barakat's sloppy, unsubstantiated, below-standard work has only polarized our community against anything to do with Islam. Worse still, it has given ammo to people with ulterior motives to misuse implications of his work. If he had cooked up numbers deliberately, that would only prove that he is an disingenuous individual with an ulterior motive to unnecessarily create confusion and polarize people against anything to do with Islam and Muslims. In an another work, he falsely claimed that millions of acres of Bangladeshi land belonged to Hindus and that Muslims had grabbed them illegally. Again there he cooked up numbers to make a point around so-called victimization of Hindus. Soon that work was translated into every Indian language and distributed widely by activists of RSS/BJP/HM/Sangha Parivar, fueling much tension against Muslims in India. He was even nominated for awards in India for his 'earth-shattering discoveries', which, he wisely declined to accept. But fact remains that he discovers 'fundamentalism' where it is absent. One wonders if he is under the payroll of some secular fundamentalist group! Unfortunately, with a secular and almost agnostic media and intellectual cadre behind him, all his sloppy works are treated like Vedic words. It is necessary that biased intellectuals like him are unmasked for their intellectual bankruptcy and catering to foreign interests t hat breed tension and hatred within our society.
Habib Siddiqui
-----Original Message----- From: Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com> To: Dhaka Mails <dhakamails@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, 20 May 2009 5:51 am Subject: 'Fundamentalist economy in Bangladesh': An analysis 'Fundamentalist economy in Bangladesh': An analysis
By Shah Abdul Halim sah1947@yahoo.com
An article on 'Fundamentalist Economy in Bangladesh' by Dr. Abul Barakat, Professor of Economics, Dhaka University, appeared in The Daily Inqilab on 27 April 2005. On reading the summary of the article, I became interested in reading the full text
We are used to regard a teacher of a university with great respect. We would like to look upon a university teacher in the same way even in future. But when an 'eminent' teacher assumes the role of a propagandist rather than taking a neutral and impartial approach in a discourse, it naturally raises a lot of q uestions. The key condition for presenting something in a fair way is to have an objective approach. However Prof. Dr. Abul Barakat in his article 'Fundamentalist Economy in Bangladesh', I am sorry to say, could not maintain that and I shall make an attempt to prove that in my discussion.
Dr. Abul Barakat, in his article, has mixed up and amalgamated the basic difference between Islamic way of life and worldly materialism. He wrote: "They (the fundamentalists) have invested in the short and long term projects from which it is possible to earn large profits. That means, though they are showing their keen interest in the Hereafter, they are more conscious about worldly life than many others". [Prof. Dr. Abul Barakat, Bangladeshe Maulobader Orthoniti (Fundamentalist Economy in Bangladesh), Samaj Orthoniti O Rastro, Mukti Bhavan, 22/1 Purana Paltan, Dhaka 1000, April 2005, pp 19-20].
Without questioning the authenticity of this statement, I would like to say that if Dr. Abul Barakat had clear knowledge about the teachings of Islam and its lifestyle, he would have hesitated to make such a comment.
Everyday we say in our prayer: Rabbana Atina Fiddunia Hasanataw Wafil Akhirati Hasanataw- Our Lord! Give us good in this world and good in the Hereafter [2 (Surat Al Baqarah):201]. In Islamic beliefs, the Hereafter is not insignificant rather worldly life of a Muslim is the way for success in the Hereafter.
Thanks to Dr. Abul Barakat for analyzing the economic condition in the post-in dependence Bangladesh, especially for his comment 'the gap between the promise [by the progressive leaders] and the reality' [p 9]. During that period poverty has increased. In his words: "During the last 33 years some people have become owners of huge wealth and resources while a large section has become pauper; resources were not mobilized for productive purposes, unearned income looked for more sources of unearned income; lives of some have enhanced in elegance while the difficulties and deprivations of various kinds of the vast majority have increased; high-rise buildings have been built, while the number of slums have increased. Real government spending in public welfare has decreased, while it has increased in unproductive sectors; foreign interference has increased, but local and indigenous initiative has decreased; government expenditure in unproductive sectors has increased, at the same time has increased the distance between the public and the public servants; election expenditure has increased, but good governance and effectiveness of the elected institutions have decreased; the power of black money has increased, while the compassion of the politicians towards the people has decreased. Disparity between the rich and the poor in education has increased, but the actual government funding in the basic education sector has decreased; poverty related diseases have increased, so is the cost of healthcare, but the competence of the public health sector has decreased" [p 12].
"This trend of development during the last 33 years h as clearly divided our country of 14 crore into two groups: In the first group are the powerful minority whose number is maximum 10 lakh … a situation where as against 10 lakh powerful are 13 crore and 90 lakh powerless, helpless, disadvantaged and deprived people" [p 10]. For this situation the writer has accused "a self-destructive plundering culture that has invaded all sectors, including economy, politics, education and culture" [p 10]. In his own words: "The characteristics of this plundering culture are black money, terrorism, illegal weapon, muscle power, bribery corruption, maladministration, oppression and repression etc." [p10].
Dr. Abul Barakat rightfully pointed out: "In the post-independence Bangladesh welfare oriented politics did not flourish as expected" [p 13]. Naturally the question arises: who were inseparably linked and associated with this plundering culture? For whom the progress of welfare-oriented pro-people politics did not get momentum, necessary impetus and vigor? Who were at power during that period? During that period the people who were at power were the advocates of secular, left and so-called progressive ideas.
Coming to the discussion on fundamentalism, Dr. Abul Barakat mentioned eight business and financial sectors and said that fundamentalist political parties are being financed from the income of the establishments of these eight sectors. In his words: "Part of the profit goes to organizational activities" [p 17]. More so, he said: "Many a people think that armed terrorist religio us communal forces of the country get all the money to run the organization from outside the country" [p 17]. "They got huge amount of foreign money in the 70s and 80s" [p 17], Dr. Abul Barakat said though he did not provide any proof or evidence to support his claim. How far academic is such generalized and sweeping comment is a big question.
Dr. Abul Barakat has presented a balance sheet of the fundamentalists' economic activities in Bangladesh. In his opinion: "Now the net profit from fundamentalist economy in Bangladesh is approximately Taka 1200 crore" [p 17]. He has given a breakup of Taka 1200 crore: 27 percent from financial institutions like banks, insurance companies and leasing companies, 20.8 percent from non-government organizations, 10.8 percent from commercial organizations, 10.4 percent from healthcare including pharmaceutical industries and diagnostic centers, 9.2 percent from educational institutions, 8.3 percent from real estate business, 7.5 percent from transport business and 5.8 percent from news media and information technology [pp 17-18]. The percentage of net profit, in his words, 'pattern' is based on 'assumption' [p 18].
The information and the statistics provided by Dr. Abul Barakat do not in any way represent the true picture rather these are utterly imaginary. In order to prove the futility of his claims we shall analyze a few of his claims. He claimed that Islamic banks, Islamic insurance companies and Islamic leasing companies make net profit of Taka 325 crore (27 percent20of Taka 1200 crore) [p 18]. His claim is not at all true. Let us examine the matter in depth.. At present there are six Islamic banks, five Islamic insurance companies and one Islamic leasing company in Bangladesh of which the sponsors and directors of one Islamic bank come from progressive and secular background. None of its sponsors and directors is fundamentalists rather they are known in the society for their opposition to fundamentalism. Of the five Islamic insurance companies, only one as a successful business establishment has issued public shares. In 2004 this insurance company after deducting Taka 15 crore 76 lakh as tax and appropriation has distributed profit of Taka 90 lakh among the shareholders. In 2004 the net profit earned by the other four Islamic insurance companies, after keeping reserve of Taka 2 crore 64 lakh as appropriation, did not have taxable income or sufficient profit to distribute among shareholders.
The only leasing company as a successful business establishment till now did not issue public shares. This leasing company after deducting Taka 1 crore 26 lakh as tax and appropriation made profit of 1 crore 47 lakh. The leasing company, however, made provision to issue bonus shares equal to the amount of profit. It means the shareholders of this Islamic leasing company did not get any profit in cash in 2004.
Of the six Islamic banks, if we leave the Islamic bank whose sponsors and directors come from progressive and secular background and are known in the society=2 0for their opposition to fundamentalism, we have five Islamic banks. In 2003 these five Islamic banks after deducting Taka 119 crore 50 lakh as income tax and appropriation distributed Taka 70 crore 45 lakh as profit among the shareholders. In the same period one Islamic bank made a net loss of Taka 39 crore. It may be mentioned here that the first Islamic bank that was established in Bangladesh in 1983 and which now has 151 branches, its 58 percent ownership is held by foreign nationals and organizations notable of which is the Jeddah-based Islamic Development Bank (IDB).
So where do we stand? Islamic insurance companies made a profit of Taka 90 lac. Islamic banks made a profit of Taka 70 crore 45 lakh that was distributed to the shareholders. The lone Islamic leasing company made a profit of Taka 1 crore 47 lakh. The leasing company, however, made provision to issue bonus shares equal to the amount of profit. That means Islamic banks, Islamic insurance companies and the lone Islamic leasing company's net income, after deducting the amount paid to the government as income tax and other appropriations, is Taka 72 crore 82 lakh which the shareholders received. Yet Dr. Abul Barakat in his article has claimed that Islamic banks, Islamic insurance companies and the lone Islamic leasing company made net income of Taka 325 crore. In his words, this is the net income of the fundamentalist financial institutions.
Now the question is whether there is any scope for the financial institutions to transfer any money to any political party for carrying out its political activities? Dr. Abul Barakat is definitely aware that these financial institutions have been established under the statutory rules as in case of banks under the Bank Company Act 1991. All banks are to operate under the supervision of Bangladesh Bank, the country's central bank, and financial institutions whose shares are transacted in the share market and available for buying and selling, they must follow the rules and regulations of the Securities & Exchange Commission, besides they have to follow the rules and regulations of Dhaka Stock Exchange and Chittagong Stock Exchange. The accounts of the financial institutions are approved by the annual general meetings, besides profits and appropriations also are to be approved by annual general meetings. It is evident from this that there is no scope of transferring money from the financial institutions to somewhere else without recording transaction in the books of account..
Dr. Abul Barakat claimed that the net profit from the fundamentalist non-government organizations and commercial organizations is Taka 380 crore (31.6 percent of Taka 1200 crore. 20.8 percent of non-government organizations and 10.8 percent from commercial organizations) [p 18].To keep the readers in confusion, he did not explain which organizations specifically represent non-government organizations and which represent commercial organizations As an honest academic researcher he should have provided a list of such organizations but possibly h e did not do it intentionally.
Dr. Abul Barakat claimed that the net-profit earned from the healthcare sector, including pharmaceutical industries and diagnostic centers, amounts to Taka 125 crore (10.4 percent of Taka 1200 crore) [p 18]. In 2004 the annual profit of the pharmaceutical industry at Shafipur after paying income tax was Taka 2 crore 86 lakh that was distributed among 10,000 shareholders. The clinic at Dhanmondi belonging to the same group is a Trust organization. In 2004 it made a profit of Taka 4 crore 10 lakh after paying income tax. Even if there are a few similar organizations it is impossible that the net profits from this sector will add up to Taka 125 crore. It is thus evident that the claim of Dr. Abul Barakat that the fundamentalist economy earns Taka 125 crore annually from healthcare including pharmaceutical industries and diagnostic centers is fantastic. The statistics are imaginary having no link with truth.
Dr. Abul Barakat claimed that the net profit from the fundamentalist educational institutions is Taka 110 crore (9.2 percent of Taka 1200 crore) [p 18]. This is an unrealistic proposition, utterly impossible. The Madrasas of the country mainly depend on Zakah, Sadaqah and donations. Everyone knows it. It is not clear to us how Dr. Abul Barakat calculated this figure of Taka 110 crore.
The few schools, colleges and universities that have been established in the private sector by the country's eminent Islamic scholars, educationists and social workers are20all Trust organizations. Therefore, no person can take profit from such educational institutions and the country's law also does not permit that.
Dr. Abul Barakat claimed that the net profit from the fundamentalist news media and information technology sector is Taka 70 crore (5.8 percent of Taka 1200 crore) [p 18]. The daily published from Moghbazar was never a profitable establishment and there have been periods when journalists and workers of this daily have not been paid salary and other allowances for consecutive eleven months. Possibly only one daily published by the circle who believes in Islamic social transformation is running successfully. The fundamentalists also do not have any news agency or private television channel. It is not understandable how Dr. Abul Barakat reached the figure of annual net profit of Taka 70 crore from the fundamentalist news media and information technology sector. He did not explain it either.
Dr. Abul Barakat claimed that the net profit from the fundamentalist real estate and transport sectors is Taka 190 crore (15.8 percent of Taka 1200 crore. 8.3 percent from real estate business and 7.5 percent from transport business). He did not mention the names of the real estate houses and transport business organizations with which the fundamentalists are associated. The figure of Taka 190 crore as income from these two sectors as mentioned in his article is imaginary like the statistics of other sectors. There is no doubt about it.
Dr. Abul Barakat claimed20that it is "possible to engage 5 lakh party members for full time if only 10 percent of the annual net profit of fundamentalist economy of Taka 1200 crore can be used in organizational activities. This is what they (the fundamentalists) do and give cross- subsidy in other sectors" [p 20].
Let us examine the matter in depth. 10 percent of Taka 1200 crore is Taka 120 crore with which the fundamentalist party gives full time employment to 5 lakh party members. What does it mean? It means one party member would get Taka 2400 per annum for 'full time' employment, monthly Taka 200 only. How reasonable is such salary structure and how much it reflects the socio-economic condition of the country that only Dr. Abul Barakat would better tell. If cross-subsidy is given to other sectors then Taka 120 crore would not be available for full time employment of party members. It that case, it would not be possible even to give Taka 200 to a party member per month for full time employment.
I am obliged to say that the article of Prof. Dr.. Abul Barakat is nothing but a concocted story devoid of truth. It is not a well researched analytical economic discourse. The author cannot avoid the accusation that by this article he has confused the people.
Note: Taka is Bangladesh currency, US $ 1= Taka 65, Lakh means one hundred thousand, Crore means ten million.
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