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Wednesday, March 18, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother



"In their views, all other ideas are attackable if those are not on their line. " mushrafi

Only thing that I attacked here is your position of intolerance. Every time some religious belief is questioned, you would use a meat cleaver?
Is that your grand logic? What are the ideas that you are fighting for? Express explicitly if you care. Only thing that stands out so far from your posts is that Abijit murder is justifiable because he hurt your religious feeling.



 




On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:53 PM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Happy to watch that few people are felt alarmed being exposed of their free passage of comfort ideas from their own dark holes. I consider it is a success to produce a mild shaking. At least this is an exposure process of intolerant ways of their dangerous practices of "intellectuality" only on their own ways. In their views, all other ideas are attackable if those are not on their line.  They loves jacks who sings their tunes only. They become aggressive to all, whoever says what, without digesting the information available. Often they loose the civility of writing, twists and disfigures  ideas of others to create more social unrest. Have no patience for logical exchanges, because minds are possibly preoccupied by borrowed ideas.
 
MuktoMona is great to play a vital role in these exposition. We need more of it so that greater readers would be able to find the fact at the end.
 

From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 01:43:02 +0000
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother

 
People are committing horrendous crimes by virtually believing in those after life illusions! Totally justifiable according to your deep thoughts? Who do you carry water for, dear? Free thinkers or butchers?
 




On Monday, March 16, 2015 9:11 PM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Merely Shallow thinking dear. Think deeper, get out of illusions of slogan's against great faiths, get out of the tunnels of tunnel vision of one's own created comfort hole. Don't be "Joromona" then Muktomona sir. Put logic then jargons forward.
 

From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:42:17 +0600
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother

 
If you try to raise doubt in the icons I have rested my faith on, I would lose my head and follow medieval duty to kill you for which I would be rewarded with even more luscious women in the afterlife. I would thank you afterwards for affording me with such an opportunity. Pipe dream!

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 16, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

There you go again! Avijit murder is totally justified because his pen hurts your religious feelings? Are you so inferior with your pen that you can't even respond in kind? You need to kill people to silence them? Do you think that is a great strategy to save your faith from future critic? Is that so shallow?
This is rather a comical argument for all Muktomonas. 




On Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:12 AM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

 

From: mushrafi@hotmail.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 09:02:40 +0000


D/sister Kamrun,

I appreciate your love for peace and humanity before any politics, religious fanaticism or butchery. When I totally condemn such heinous acts at the same tone I express my disappointment to a number of people are attacking other people's faith and inflaming violence, I would say.  As example the Charlie Abdoo Peris magazine keeps on propagating an agenda and relentlessly ridicule the faith of Islam without a depth or demonstrated understanding of it. Surprisingly this magazine never peruse such ill-conceived, illiterate evils against Krishna, Moses or Jesus, though there were/are fanatics in every faith and there are historical wrong doings in all faiths. These all in the name of so called "Freedom of speech" by arrogantly ignoring the fact that freedom is essentially attached with the responsibilities and boundaries.
 
"The pen is more powerful that machetes ", by believing this mantra, the pen holders need to be respectful to all faiths, those which many people held very close to their hearts. No intelligent or noble person is expected to hurt other people's heart-held feelings of faith or position of opinion. Where a free thinker has a right to speak their mind at the same time the faith holders have equal right to speak their mind.  By attacking or ridiculing some one's faith by pen is far more hurtful then attacking by knives indeed.

I therefore believe that "Agree to disagree" is a key to reach out to the peoples of different opinion. The pen-powered people are in a higher power position to manage this difference of opinion situation. The knowledge or wisdom cannot be forced on to someone at all. By ridiculing or hurting others, no one should expect peace, love and to bring people to their own opinion camp. A believe that "my thinking/ideas are absolute right and all others are wrong and need to be attacked" is totally foolish. These kind of grandiose and arrogant attitude will make the world unsafe, and chaotic for sure.

Just imagine if all quarters tries to attack each other's opinion and demands s/he is only right then what would be the consequences?

 

 

 

 

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From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 23:08:36 -0800
Subject: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother

 


Dear Avijit da, I have lost word to write to you. You have donated your dead-body for the welfare of Bangladeshi medical science, but what we Bangladeshis have given you in return, I was asking to myself. From the drift of conscience, I am here to confess that I am heavily indebted to your mukto-mona website that encouraged me greatly to be a poet. Mindless killers should know, Allah is not so stupid that He has built heavens of breathtaking beauty for those, whose hands are tarnished with the blood of his own brothers. Human species declaring war against own species happily imagine that they would bring their so-called peace on earth by extermination of those, who are in their views sinners, not worthy of mercy. But they know not that bloodshed can never bring peace, rather leave the world as a poor desolate planet without a little sign of human life.

Dr. Kamrun Nahar
Bangladesh
alorkona@yahoo.com













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Re: [mukto-mona] Bangla articles for ‘Mukto-Mona=?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=99?=



This e-book contains many useful thoughts; people should save this e-book in their computer for perusal.
The way I see is that - Dharma and religion are not the same thing. Human (Manab) Dharma refers to certain characteristics that distinguish human-being from other species, such as animal.
When a human violates human-dharma, he/she could become animal. There is only one Dharma for all human-beings.
On the contrary, there are multiple religions for human-beings; each one prescribes certain deeds in this world with a hope of gaining a better world after death. Since, there is no accountability of any of those acts, some of them are motivated by religious political expediency. In fact, some of these acts could be inhuman as well, violating human-dharma.
While Dharma brings contentment in this world, religion promises contentment in the illusionary after world.
Jiten Roy
 

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Subject: [mukto-mona] Bangla articles for 'Mukto-Mona' [1 Attachment]

 
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Dear Mukto-Mona Team,
I would like to submit Bangla articles for  'Mukto-Mona'. I write articles mainly on self-development, human development etc. I am sending you a Bengali eBook for sample, please check the attachment. You may take any article from this eBook. To know about me, please search through Google.  

Also I'd like to inform you about a new religion suitable for free-thinkers for true self-development and human development, that is 'MahaDharma' 'Manav Dharma' is 'MahaDharma'. To know about it, please visit- Mahadharma  and go through Google search= MahaDharma,  MahaManan,  Mahavad. Thank you.
 

Regards,
Sumeru Ray (MahaManas) 





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[mukto-mona] Re: Article Submission



Dear Moderators:


The last part of my original article was cut off.  It should also include the ending with references:

The Iranian government condemned the attacks in Paris, but stressed the impermissibility of insulting religious faith; and in some Orwellian twist of doublethink, Pope Francis has corroborated the Iranian position by affirming that freedom of speech is a "fundamental human right" but religious faith must be respected.  Its occasionally comforting to see two of the world's oldest competing theocracies finding common ground in their bipartisan assault on freedom of expression.


Freedom of speech creates an economy of ideas which are fluid and mobile enough to allow the exchange of error for truth in the event that someone is mistaken about their convictions.  Its a device for surveying all possible modes of knowledge in the overall phase space of human ideas.  Thus, it is not only tolerable, but morally incumbent upon us to mock and defame religion- especially the Islamic religion.  


The rigidity of moral absolutism can only be broken, not reformed.  We often forget that the death of humans is a tragedy, while the death of ideas is a triumph.  Our civil discourse is imprisoned by the tyranny of consensus and yet it's survival depends upon the emancipation of dissenting views.  This false synthesis of vice and virtue is a volatile mixture with annihilating consequences.  As rational agents we are endowed at once with the faculty to reason and to laugh at the absurdities and ironies of our world.  Accordingly, we must disrespect propositions which demand that some cosmic renaissance took place in an ancient desert and was revealed in the mental auditorium of nomadic delusions.  Let us defend offensive speech for truth's sake.  And if we abound in error, then let us celebrate our fallibility.  For there is no higher virtue than the right to be wrong.



References:


[1] F.L. Carsten (1980).  The Rise of Fascism.  Berkeley and Los Angeles, CA: University of California Press

[2] F.L. Carsten (1980).  The Rise of Fascism.  Berkeley and Los Angeles, CA: University of California Press

[3] T. Ferris (2010).  The Science of Liberty.  New York City, NY: Harper Collins

[4] F. Hayek (2007).  The Road to Serfdom (Definitive ed.).  Chicago, IL: University of Chicago Press

 




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[mukto-mona] Fw: Request for publishing the writing in Mukto-Mona [1 Attachment]

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Dear Moderators,

I sent my attached writings before to publish in Mukto-Mona Bangla Blog. I did not see it yet. I am assuming, the recent turmoil on Mukto-Mona delayed it. I was also extremely shocked. I hope you will publish it, and please let me know if you have any question or having any issue to open the file.

Thanks,

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Dear Modarators,

I am a regular reader of "Mukto-Mona" blog since 2008. I will be happy if you please publish my attached writing in Bangla Blog.

Thank you,

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[mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] 'Public rally/tribute "Standing With Avijit" March 21, 3pm Washington DC.'

Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner has posted a new item, 'Public rally/tribute
"Standing With Avijit" March 21, 3pm Washington DC.'


Washington, DC  -  Drishtipat DC announces the "Standing with Avijit"
rally to take place March 21, 2015 from 3 PM to 5 PM at the Dupont Circle
Fountain in Washington, DC.


 


On February 26, 2015, Bangladeshi-American humanist writer and blogger Avijit
Roy was hacked to death by religious hardliners in Dhaka, Bangladesh. His wife
Bonya [...]


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[mukto-mona] শিবির ‘নিয়ন্ত্রিত’ ছাত্রাবাসে অভিযান, রাইফেলসহ ৯ আগ্নেয়াস্ত্র উদ্ধার



শিবির 'নিয়ন্ত্রিত' ছাত্রাবাসে অভিযান, রাইফেলসহ ৯ আগ্নেয়াস্ত্র উদ্ধার

চট্টগ্রাম ব্যুরো,  বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম

Published: 2015-03-18 08:41:35.0 BdST Updated: 2015-03-18 14:47:03.0 BdST


ইসলামী ছাত্র শিবিরের শক্ত ঘাঁটি হিসেবে পরিচিত চট্টগ্রাম কলেজের দুটি ছাত্রাবাসে অভিযান চালিয়ে বিপুল পরিমাণ অস্ত্র ও গুলি উদ্ধারের পাশাপাশি ৭২ জনকে আটক করেছে পুলিশ।

আটকরা ছাত্রশিবিরের সঙ্গে জড়িত বলে পুলিশ কর্মকর্তারা জানিয়েছেন।

বুধবার ভোররাতে চট্টগ্রাম কলেজের সোহরাওয়ার্দী ও শেরেবাংলা ছাত্রাবাসে অভিযান চালানো হয় বলে নগর গোয়েন্দা পুলিশের অতিরিক্ত উপকমিশনার এস এম তানভীর আরাফাত জানান।

তিনি বলেন, রাত ২টা থেকে ভোর সাড়ে ৬টা পর্যন্ত ছাত্রাবাস দুটিতে অভিযান চালিয়ে ৭২ শিবিরকর্মীকে আটক করা হয়।

অভিযান চলাকালে ছাত্রাবাসের পাশে চট্টগ্রাম কলেজের স্টাফ কোয়ার্টার এলাকায় একটি গর্তে শিবিরের ব্যানারে মোড়ানো অবস্থায় একে-২২ রাইফেলসহ নয়টি আগ্নেয়াস্ত্র পাওয়া যায়।

এসব অস্ত্রের মধ্যে রয়েছে- একটি থ্রি নট থ্রি রাইফেল, তিনটি পিস্তল, তিনটি একনলা বন্দুক, একটি দোনলা বন্দুক, ১০০ রাউন্ড গুলি ও পাঁচটি রকেট ফ্লেয়ার।

চট্টগ্রাম কলেজে অভিযান শেষে সামনের মহসিন কলেজে যায় পুলিশ, যে কলেজেও দীর্ঘদিন ধরে শিবিরের জোরালো তৎপরতা রয়েছে।

ওই কলেজের মহসিন মুসলিম ছাত্রাবাসে তল্লাশি চালিয়ে নাশকতায় জড়িত কাউকে ধরতে না পারলেও পাশের একটি পাহাড়ি গুহা থেকে আট শিবির কর্মীকে আটকের কথা জানিয়েছেন পুলিশ কর্মকর্তারা।

এ সময় কলেজ ক্যাম্পাসের বিভিন্ন স্থান থেকে পেট্রোল, বিস্ফোরক দ্রব্য ও হাতবোমা তৈরির সরঞ্জাম, ধারালো অস্ত্র উদ্ধার করা হয়।

অভিযান চলাকালে সকাল ১০টার দিকে মহসিন কলেজে আসেন চট্টগ্রাম মহানগর পুলিশের (সিএমপি) কমিশনার আবদুল জলিল মণ্ডল।

তিনি বলেন, সাম্প্রতিক সময়ে চট্টগ্রাম মহানগরীতে সংঘটিত বিভিন্ন নাশকতার ঘটনায় জড়িতরা চট্টগ্রাম কলেজ ও মহসিন কলেজে আশ্রয় নিতে পারে ধারণা থেকে এ অভিযান চালানো হয়।

চট্টগ্রাম কলেজ ক্যাম্পাস থেকে উদ্ধার আগ্নেয়াস্ত্র সম্পর্কে তিনি বলেন, "একে-২২ রাইফেল সাধারণত সেনাবাহিনী ব্যবহার করে প্রশিক্ষণের জন্য।

"এগুলো শিক্ষা প্রতিষ্ঠানে এনে কিন্তু এখানে পুরো ক্যান্টনমেন্ট বানিয়ে রাখা হয়েছে।"

এসব অস্ত্র সংগ্রহ ও সেগুলো রাখার সঙ্গে শিক্ষকরাও জড়িত কি না তাও খতিয়ে দেখা হচ্ছে বলে জানান নগর পুলিশের শীর্ষ কর্মকর্তা জানান।

গত ৫ জানুয়ারি থেকে বিএনপি-জামায়াত জোটের চলমান অবরোধে সারা দেশের মতো চট্টগ্রামেও গাড়িতে পেট্রোল বোমা নিক্ষেপ, অগ্নিসংযোগ ও হাতবোমার বিস্ফোরণ ঘটানো হয়েছে।

এই সময়ে সারা দেশে নাশকতায় শতাধিক মানুষের প্রাণহানি হয়েছে।

অন্যদিকে আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনীর অভিযানে 'বন্দুকযুদ্ধে' বিএনপি ও জামায়াত-শিবিরের কয়েকজন নিহত হয়েছেন। চট্টগ্রামেই হাতবোমা ছুড়তে গিয়ে নিজের হাতে বিস্ফোরণ ঘটলে নিহত হয়েছেন এক শিবিরকর্মী।

নাশকতায় জড়িতদের ধরতে সারা দেশের মতো চট্টগ্রামেও নিয়মিত অভিযান চালিয়ে আসছে আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনী।

এর আগে গত ৮ মার্চ চট্টগ্রামের সীতাকুণ্ড উপজেলায় একটি দুর্গম পাহাড়ে ছাত্র শিবিরের তিনটি আস্তানা থেকে ৭০টি পেট্রোল বোমা, ৫০টি হাতবোমা, ১২টি ধারালো অস্ত্র, চারটি আগ্নেয়াস্ত্র, ২৪টি গুলি ও তিনটি রকেট ফ্লেয়ার উদ্ধার করে পুলিশ।

অবরোধ-হরতালে মহাসড়কে নাশকতার জন্য সেখানে শিবির কর্মীরা এসব আস্তানা তৈরি করেছিল বলে পুলিশের পক্ষ থেকে বলা হয়। 

তার আগে গত ২৮ ফেব্রুয়ারি রাতে চট্টগ্রামের হালিশহরের একটি বাসা থেকে বিপুল পরিমাণ বিস্ফোরক, হাতবোমা ও বোমা তৈরির সরঞ্জাম উদ্ধার করে র‌্যাব।

ওই বাসা থেকেও শিবিরের গঠনতন্ত্র ও ইসলামী ছাত্রী সংস্থার কাগজপত্রসহ তিনজনকে গ্রেপ্তার করা হয়।

তার এক সপ্তাহ আগে গত ২১ ফেব্রুয়ারি চট্টগ্রামের বাঁশখালী উপজেলায় দুর্গম পাহাড় থেকে আগ্নেয়াস্ত্র, গুলি ও জঙ্গি প্রশিক্ষণের সরঞ্জাম উদ্ধার করা হয়।

যেখানে নিয়মিত জঙ্গি প্রশিক্ষণ দেওয়া হতো বলে র‌্যাবের পক্ষ থেকে সে সময় জানানো হয়।

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