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Sunday, November 20, 2016

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Make America white again



Nothing would prevent them from an  eventual Chinese takeover.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

If someone is given a chance to choose between living within angry white Christian people and non-white (Black, Latino, Muslim, etc.)people, he/she will, probably, prefer angry white Christian neighborhood.
 
Jiten Roy



From: "DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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Cc: Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:36 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Make America white again

 
Why blame Trump and whites when most Muslim countries put Bismillah at the very top their constitutions? Good for goose but not for gander? Many whites are feeling marginalized too in their own backyard. Are they wrong?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
During election cycle you hear of slogan and emotional rages. Unlike the decomcracies in developing countries that charged atmozpere
almost magically evaporate, in a day or two. Not so this time; it us perfect Strom of poltics. It has gender , generational and ethnic hatred components to if. The election win of trump is essentially a victory of angry old white men. They want savor the victory old fashioned way,. To them majority rule means, subjucation of loosing party. Irony is, majority voting block is minority this time ( if consider popular vote).

If democracy survive for another millennium, then election has all nuances for social scientists and historians to refer. One side clear and narrow interest as goal, when other side is viewed literally and figuratively khadlidscope of ideas and interests

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/ 11/10/us/post-election-hate- crimes-and-fears-trnd/index. html






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[mukto-mona] Rohingyas feel safe in India, but uncertainty looms



Link: http://www.dw.com/en/rohingyas-feel-safe-in-india-but-uncertainty-looms/a-19545794

Rohingyas feel safe in India, but uncertainty looms

The Rohingya are often described as one of the most persecuted communities in the world. A significant number of them are also living in India as refugees and asylum seekers. Cheena Kapoor reports about their plight.

Indien Rohingya Flüchtlinge

Most commuters who pass the Kalindi Kunj bridge in Delhi tend to generally notice only the metro construction. From a distance, the makeshift settlement near the construction area appears to be a normal sight in the city: tents built with recycled material found on the streets comprising of plastic, rubber, plywood, tires and old clothes.

A closer look, however, reveals the plight of the Rohingya community, a Muslim ethnic group from Myanmar, and their relentless struggle in search for a home where they will not be beaten, raped or killed.

In Kalindi Kunj, a total of 307 members of the Rohingya community live together. The Zakat Foundation, a US-based NGO, has made this possible by providing 11,000 square feet of land to pitch tents on. This arrangement, however, was only valid for a year and now the Rohingyas, after having overstayed, have been asked to move again ten days after Eid al-Adha, an Islamic holiday. This case of displacement is not the first one and yet another occasion for them to not know where to go next.

The Rohingya are a predominantly Muslim community hailing from Myanmar's western Rakhine state. But the Myanmar government views the roughly one million-strong ethnic group as illegal Bangladeshi immigrants. As a result, most of them are denied citizenship and outbreaks of sectarian violence have prompted many to flee.

Over several decades, the Rohingya have suffered a lack of self-identity, persecution and forced relocation within and outside the borders of Myanmar.

Many of them now live in miserable conditions in makeshift camps within and outside Myanmar and are exposed to the risks of exploitation, human trafficking, and rape.

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Myanmar's Rohingya find refuge in India

Since 2012, over 100,000 Rohingya Muslims have embarked on boat journeys in search of better lives outside of the Southeast Asian nation, and they have taken refuge in countries like Bangladesh, Indonesia, Thailand and India.

More welcoming?

India has so far been receptive to Rohingyas, and the South Asian country is generally considered to be a safe place for the refugees.

Mohammad Usman, a 33-year-old man from Myanmar, spent three days without food and water in the dark forest near the India-Bangladesh border before reaching Delhi. Almost three years after that fateful night, Usman recollects his experiences: "Back in Myanmar, officials would blindfold young men and women in the night and take them away. These people would never return."

India may not offer the Rohingya the same basic facilities it gives to Afghan or Iraqi refugees, but the country still does more than Myanmar ever did, says Usman.

The makeshift settlement near Kalindi Kunj bridge is currently home to some 70 Rohingya families. And over 35,000 Rohingya refugees and asylum seekers are estimated to reside across the country.

Out of the 137 children in the Kalindi Kunj settlement, 60 are under the age of five and do not go to school, while only 47 children are offered education for which fees are paid by the Zakat Foundation.

Indien Rohingya Flüchtlinge

A Rohingya woman prepares dinner for her family outside her makeshift tent at the Kalindi Kunj refugee camp in Delhi

Living in Delhi has made a significant difference to the lives of many of these Rohingya Muslims. Mohammad Ismail, 27, arrived in India almost two and a half years ago. His family of six members, two brothers, a sister-in-law and two sisters had to leave their parents behind in Myanmar.

Now, Ismail has found a home in Delhi. He says, "At last we're accepted here. We can practice our religion without the fear of getting killed for it. India has accepted us. Despite the stench and filth, I feel safe living here and never want to return."

Facing eviction, again

But poor health conditions and the looming eviction notice might accelerate the possibility of displacement. With the spread of mosquito-borne illnesses Dengue and Chikungunya during the monsoon season, over 40 people at the camp in Kalindi Kunj have fallen sick and are unable to pay for their own medicines.

Due to a lack of access to healthcare facilities, the health conditions continue to worsen every day. Although the United Nations Refugee Agency (UNHCR) has pledged support, there has been little improvement so far.

Furthermore, the employment situation for Rohingyas living in Delhi remains uncertain.

Usman, for instance, works as a daily laborer and irregularly finds work for 10-15 days a month earning less than 300 rupees ($4.4, 4.0 euros) a day.

Indien Rohingya Flüchtlinge

Usman works as a daily laborer and irregularly finds work for 10-15 days a month earning less than 300 rupees

Abdul Wasim, another refugee, lives with his daughter and cannot work because of his poor health condition. He had to leave his wife and five children behind in Myanmar, and he has no hope of seeing them again in light of the border lockdown with Myanmar. Now, he and his daughter get by with the income earned by her as a domestic help in Kalindi Kunj residential areas.

A hopeless future?

The plight of the Rohingya has received a lot of media and public attention, but the question still lingers: where do they go from here? The Rohingya are still finding out how many they are in number, spread across borders in Asia.

With most of them being impoverished and lacking valid identity cards, it's common for Rohingya Muslims to live in small groups in makeshift camps. And within these small groups, they try to stick together but it's unclear for how long they can continue to survive amidst conditions of poverty, unemployment, lack of education and violence.

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Re: [mukto-mona] India - US Trade and How It Will Impact Kashmir



Did not US arrest this guy for tax-fraud and spying for Pakistan? Nabi is a convicted felon!


On Sunday, November 20, 2016 2:12 PM, "'dar manar' darmanar@darmanar.org [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 8:37 PM


India - US Trade and How It Will Impact Kashmir
 
Dr. Ghulam Nabi Fai
 
November 16, 2016
 
While the hullabaloo over Modi's rise on the international stage has been on the verge of being a circus, with all the elephants of trade on parade, it is a distraction from the recent collective beating of chests being put on by joint Naval forces of India, the United States and Japan in the South China Sea, called Exercise Malabar, an annual event since 1992 bilaterally between India and the U.S.  Japan joined just last year.  It has been held in previous years in the Indian Ocean and other areas closer to home for India.  But the hegemonic ambitions of this odd couple now reflects the deepening commitment the two countries have made to sharing a strategic military alignment against China for dominance in South and Southeast Asia.
 
A 2011 report to Congress by the U.S. Department of Defense on U.S.-India Security Cooperation explains clearly the focus and intensity of military cooperation between the two countries.   "Our defense relationship," it states,  "involves a robust slate of dialogues, military exercises, defense trade, personnel exchanges, and armaments cooperation." "U.S.-India military exercises have grown dramatically in size, scope and sophistication. We now have regular exercises across all services that help to deepen our military and defense relationships."
 
However non-aligned India's posture would pretend to be, if that's not an alignment, I don't know what is.  The sharing of "our most advanced technologies," of military tactics and strategy, is vital to security and leads to sensitivities across the board that seriously compromise any supposed "non-aligned" status.  In any war, a side has already been chosen.  In any dispute, the U.S. can be expected to have India's back.
  
It seems simple enough, but it isn't, however, because neither country is at war with China, and other relationships, primarily economic, have been engaged that greatly restrain such an impulse.  The weight of those relationships is therefore important in determining how that risk is viewed, 
 
As stated in my previous article, Reflections on Modi's Visit to the U.S: What's in it for Kashmir?, U.S. neocons have long had both Russia and China in their sights. Both countries represent a threat to America's economic and political dominance in the world.  At the moment, that alliance has been viewed as too strong for the war machine to take on either country directly. But the agenda follows policy long established by neocons like Robert Kagan, William Kristol, Dick Cheney and John Bolton (now prospective Secretary of State during Trump administration) and others who, through Project for a New American Century, for years advocated confrontation rather than accommodation and have continued to be the leading neocons who have had the ear of successive administrations.
 
"Thanks to the greed of US corporations that boosted their profits by outsourcing their production to China," former Under Secretary for President Ronald Reagan Paul Craig Roberts writes,  "China is modernized many decades before the neocons thought possible. China's military forces are modernized with Russian weapons technology. New Chinese missiles make the vaunted US Navy and its aircraft carriers obsolete."
 
India belongs to the BRICS financial group of countries which includes Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.  They now have upwards of $100 billion to invest in developing countries in direct competition with the World Bank and IMF through their New Development Bank. They are developing systems that compete with SWIFT, the mechanism for identifying funds transfers.  Since 2012, BRICS have also been developing an optical fibre submarine communications cable to carry telecommunications among BRICS countries called the BRICS cable.
 
BRICS is naturally seen as a threat to the existing global market system and the dominance of the U.S. dollar.  The opportunity for manipulation of various markets that has been in the hands of the World Bank and IMF has more often than not served the global political ends of the world powers at the expense of countries that were less than cooperative.   The IMF had in fact warned Britain before it held referendum this year that exiting the European Union would have negative financial consequences, saying in other words that its willingness to loan money might be affected.
 
India's growing alliance with the U.S. seems strange in historical context, given the fact that China is, or should I say, has been, India's largest global trading partner. Trade between the two countries had increased from $2 billion in 2001 to $70 billion in 2014, and the current vision is to continue growing.  So India's actions in the South China Sea seem to run somewhat counter to its interests.  India's need for Chinese-made goods far surpasses China's need for Indian products, leaving a substantial deficit.  Indian administration officials have not responded to questions about this seeming conflict in India's agenda and what appearances suggest, but officials have pointed out that "the warmth in Washington doesn't necessarily mean a chill in Beijing."  Nevertheless, India wants to pursue its long-held belief that China is an existential threat and needs to be balanced by other friends in high places. 
 
The weight of U.S. cooperation with India is not insignificant. Business Insider reports that "Members of the US-India Business Council have already invested $28 billion in India since September 2014 and investment of another $45 billion is in the pipeline," as Council Chairman John Chambers told Prime Minister Narendra Modi when the two met in Washington during the latter's visit to the nations Capitol. 
 
US trade with India has actually overtaken Indian trade with China and now stands at $100 billion per year.  But that's just a nickel in the tip jar on top of the Steinway.   In a formal statement by U.S. Under Secretary of State Catherine Novelli on April 15, 2016 points out that  "President Obama and Prime Minister Modi have committed to raising our bilateral trade another five-fold to $500 billion dollars."
 
India suffers a trade deficit with China that was close to $50 billion in 2014-15, while enjoying a $20 billion surplus with the U.S.  India is losing big money to China while gaining some of it back from the U.S.  It would seem that India intends to maintain good relations with China but sees more substantial benefits in developing ties with the U.S.
 
There's no question that Prime Minister Modi has hegemonic notions of his own.  His policies toward Kashmir are a clear example.  No doubt, he has no interest in trading India's new-found independence and strength for second-class colony status, whether it be the world's largest wage slave, labor camp or not. He is more interested in selling India's poor on the open global market to investors who like cheap labor and handsome profits.  The cost of corporate greed is that human rights will always take a back seat.  It is clear from a report in The Guardian, dated November 8, 2016, entitled, "India's crackdown in Kashmir: is this the world's first mass blinding." It stated, "A bloody summer of protest in Kashmir has been met with a ruthless response from Indian security forces, who fired hundreds of thousands of metal pellets into crowds of civilians, leaving hundreds blinded."
 
Trade and commercial deals are important but not at the expense of the high moral ground American exceptionalism has always claimed. Moral values and human rights are the very essence of even being called civilized.
 
India has a long history of attempting to remain non-aligned, and certainly her recent history as a British colony has not been forgotten.  But commitments militarily as well as financially with the U.S. are shifting the long-held balance rather awkwardly off scale.  Don't look for much moralizing from U.S. officials on the problem of Kashmir anytime soon, given the new realities within the Beltway in Washington, D.C.
 
Trade, however, will have a bonus in the long run. History tells us that international investment is never safe in a conflict zone. Troubles on the home front are never good for business. Oil pipelines can be blown up, interrupting international markets and commerce, power outages make it impossible for almost anyone to do business, and terror itself is very costly to the economy when people are afraid to go out and buy things and tourism comes to a halt.  India's penchant to present her perspective before the international community ignores fundamental root causes in the abuse of the rights of Kashmiris, and the risk of nuclear confrontation itself shrinks all other complaints to silly whining.  Dr. Madeline Albright, former US Secretary of State was right when she said on July 1998 "I have spent my entire life looking at the issue (Kashmir) and that is the basic issue between these two countries." So, resolving the dispute over Kashmir will lead to peace in the region which must eventually be seen as vital to maintaining a stable market and global trade.
 
Companies that have billions of dollars on the line will do much to influence policies that will protect their stockholders. So trade and commerce between India and the U.S. as well as other countries is a good thing, and will likely provide the necessary leverage to resolve the Kashmir issue peacefully. In this context it is significant to note that when India and Pakistan were at the brink of a nuclear confrontation in 2002, Thomas Freedman wrote in the New York Times on August 11, 2002, "...it was the influence of General Electric, not General Powell, that did the trick." 
 
Dr. Fai is the Secretary General of World Kashmir Awareness and can be reached at: 1-202-607-6435  OR  gnfai2003@yahoo.com    
 




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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Over Donald Trump Now Exceeds 1.5 Million Votes - ABC News



This is a democracy dear! Trump got his mandate to form his cabinet and rule the country. You being an Islamist has no right to dictate who should be included in Trump's cabinet. Is Trump really a Hitler? The man is not even close to your favorite dictator Erdogan that you love so much and cherish. What kind of crime would he commit if he start asking you some tough questions to probe your loyalty to US and its constitution? Americans want safer a country. Can we blame them?

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Rezaul Karim <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com> wrote:
The biggest question, were face now is. Will Trump change? 
May be , may not be. As morning shows the day, Trum's selection of cabinet post are highly controversial even with American standard. His cabinet nominee mostly were/are racist and have extremist agenda
Yes, as an elected President, DT deserves a chance to run the nation.But what should we do, as Americans who do not share his views. Remember Hitler was also democratically elected to the supreme leadership of Germany & we know rest of the history.We need to be remain vigilant at all times, be with the democratic forces, organize and speak out our disagreement. Otherwise, be ready to be oppressed & wiped out. It's Very important for all of us to ponder deeply and act upon. Please share to all to create more awareness among all vulnerable people, among minority communities, immigrant communities. Building resistance in a democratic way is the only way to live with dignity as a proud American.
Future belong to those who refuse to undergo any insult no matter how minuscule they may be not to talk about other repression.
Thank You, all.

~ Rezaul karim

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 11:49 AM, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:

DT's victory is done deal. No point crying over the spilled milk. Americans decided, perhaps through various trial and error, to the delegation system of election. They definitively found some merit in it. One reason could be that they wanted to give weightage to the States. Each state should have a say in federal affairs including the election of president. And, why should it be the business of Democrats to change the system? Why not the Republicans? The vote count can go either way. Why don't the Democrats try to increase their influence among the huge conservative swath in the middle? I think it is one of their biggest failures.


Before this elections, Republicans were fractured. Many top GOP leaders bitterly condemned Trump and turned away from him.  Trump was a loner in his election campaign. There were many anti-Trump protests around his campaign sites. We had seen the infamous demeaning nude Trump statues at many places. Dozens of women came forward to describe how Trump misused them. 


To the contrary, Hillary had such important and forceful figures as President Obama, First Lady Michelle, former president Bill Clinton, Barney Sanders, Elizabeth W, Al Gore, former beauty queens, music sensations like Beyoncé and her husband, B Sprinsteen and others. Most media houses, influential organizations and groups supported Hillary. Yet, everything came to naught! Why? Mere vote counts should not be the answer. 


According to a report, a majority of the post election protestors failed to vote. Why? About 80% Blacks voted, which is good, but not all to Hillary. Again why? Latinos and women did not go to the polls as expected. Why? We know at least one Muslim bragged in this forum that he voted Trump. He thought Hillary's jugri-pugri with e-mails caused her defeat. Not the whole truth. The email issue, Benghazi, Clinton Foundation are all Republican creation without much substance. Much before the Comey announcements, people had already decided whom to vote. In the battleground states, the working class overwhelmingly voted Trump. Why didn't Hillary campaign foresee it?


I think the Hillary camp was too complacent about its victory, the thing I was afraid and always warned against. A deep soul search needed for the Democrats.


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Subject: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Hillary Clinton's Popular Vote Lead Over Donald Trump Now Exceeds 1.5 Million Votes - ABC News
 

It's been nearly two weeks since the November 8 general election, but the results have not remained static as ballots continue to be counted. While the number of votes for both president-elect Donald Trump and his former Democratic rival Hillary Clinton continue to increase, the gap is widening,...




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