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Monday, November 24, 2014

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!



Muharram dance is a mixture of lamentation and Zehad against Yazid bin Moabia.

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On Nov 25, 2014, at 7:43 AM, "Syed Mirza Skmirza.mirza@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Dear Rahman Shaheb,

Sorry, I missed your nice comment you have made in this thread which deserves my response.
You are  absolutely right that, Mahrram's bloody dances are not actual jihad but, what I told in my comments are: this mahrram dances seemed like jihad dances and dose not look like ordinary mourning procession to me. In my childhood time (Pakistani period), I had a chance to watch with my elder brother one such Mahrram so called mourning procession in which those Pakistani Muslim dancers were so much bloody and were dancing ferociously with naked sword in their hands and were making so loud frightening sounds (slogan of some types) and jumping left and right that, I had to scream and asked my elder brother to take me away at once from there in a hurry. Because I was so much frightened by their devilish roars and barbaric jumping, as if they were about to attack their enemies though, still I do not know who were there enemies? They were shouting kaffirs, kaffirs etc. In my other comments I did ask the same question: who wre those so called kaffirs? But, nobody is telling me the answer of my question!!! 

Most unfortunate and funny things are: why our western Human-right champion is taking such barbarity at easy manner?  Children are tortured by inflicting blood-letting wounds which is a federal crime in the USA and many western nations in which situation normally Govt. arrest parents and takeaway those victimized children in the state custody.  But, in this case of Mahrram--this is Islamic rituals and freedom of religion, remember? Hence, western appeasers and leftist useful idiots are very much afraid of insulting Islam. They will break all age-old laws of the country only to accommodate Islamic jihadi rituals of all types. These western idiots are bending backward to accommodate all types of Islamic nonsensical barbarity but, they will not do the same for any other religion. They are afraid of getting beheading by those jihadis islamists for sure!  President Obama of course routinely climes: Islam is peace!!! 

Thanks again for your comment. 


SKM


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:50 PM, mahfuzur@aol.com <mahfuzur@aol.com> wrote:
   I am a little puzzled by these exchanges. In his original message SKM was focusing on the jihadi aspect of ashoura 'celebrations.' I may be wrong but I always thought that the annual blood-letting at Muharram was wholly a matter of mourning. The shia self-flagellate only to commemorate the martyrdom of their imam Husain whose death was a horribly bloody one. They mourn and mourn that death and will not stop till doomsday. Mourning is in the shia ethos. Blood is their most important part of that mourning. 
  Now, I do not know why this is so. It is difficult for a thinking modern man like me to understand this love of blood and blood- letting. There is a fountain in Tehran that spouts red-coloured water, I believe 24 hours a day. Such fascination with blood has no rational explanation. 
   Even more irrational ( if there is anything such thing !), is the blood-letting of children, mere babies. And that too in this country! The screaming little child, while the man carrying it slices its forehead, will forever remain etched in my mind. There must be a law against such cruelty. Why were the perpetrators not prosecuted, I wonder.      
  I do not think the blood letting in Muharram has anything to do with jihad. It is an evil symbol of sick minds.
  It is ironical that another set of sick minds, the sunnis of ISIS, wishes to do away with the sickness of the shia variety.
 
 Mahfuzur Rahman 
 
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Sent: Thu, Nov 20, 2014 11:09 am
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!

Folks:

Thanks for your comments to this "puzzling bloody-Jihad dance" of peaceful (?) Muslims. I believe the very verse (6:137) mentioned by Mr. Asghar is not related to the Muhrram's bloody dance. The verse (6:137) probably about the custom of ancient ritual of human sacrifice for pleasing God which had been a religious practice in the ancient time. This custom was known as "Noro-bali" and later, this cruel practice was replaced by the animal sacrifice stated in the old testament. That, animal sacrifice to please Allah is still practicing vigorously by the muslims by the name of 'Korbani', though, this ancient barbaric ritual of religious fanaticism had been discontinued by all other major religions because, except Islam, all religions got civilized by the times they have passed. But, Islam never grow and continued by the spirit of ancient barbarity of superstitions in big time.

Now, question remained to be answered: what is this bloody Mohrram-dance of Jihadi Muslims? I do not believe there could be any Koranic verse exists for this monkey dance of Muslims because, Allah was already in His deep sleep at the time of Karbala tragedy and and there was no verse came to PM because PM was also dead at that time. Now, who can give us the real story of Karbala massacre and whom to be blamed for killing of PM's grandson? This monkey jihadi bloody dance seems a crazy protest or jihad but against whom? Why they are dancing like some uncivilized devils? This is the answers I want to figure out. Could anybody shed some lights in this matter please? 

Many thanks.


SKM



On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
The "literal" meaning of the verse is this:
 
In the time of the prophet Muhammad, most pagans used to slaughter their children under the influence
of their gods. This they did to destroy themselves and their religion (is it believable?).
 
Allah knew about this abhorrent act of the pagans, but did nothing to stop them from slaughtering their
children. Allah asked prophet Muhammad to leave the pagans to themselves and to their invention (what
this invention was is not clear from the verse).
 
This verse makes it clear that the pagans' gods were for real, That is how they were able to lure their
followers into slaughtering their children.
 
I may be wrong in my understanding of the words of the verse. Perhaps, these denote something else,
which can be made clear only by the learned "interpreters of the Quran," and the "scholars."
 
 
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
 
 
 
 
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I am afraid, I can't make any head or tail of that sentence.... even as a metaphor for something Godly and good? Can any intelligent expert can come forward and explain it for the public? Or, people cant even dare to admit their years of ignorance?
-SD

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
In the Holy Quran, we read:
 
6:137: "Even so, in the eyes of most of the Pagans, their "partners" made alluring the slaughter of their
            children, in order to lead them to their own destruction, and cause confusion in their religion.
            IF ALLAH HAD WILLED, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SO: BUT LEAVE THEM TO THEIR
            INVENTIONS."
 
What is the "literal" meaning of the above words is not known to me. Perhaps, it can be "interpreted"
according to the "interpreters'" wish and interest!
 
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
 
 
 
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These graphic photos are not children friendly! The question is who is being slaughtered by whom, if that is a question? Does God really care about these self-inflicting injuries right before the small children? I am stunned.

-SD

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Syed Mirza <skmirza.mirza@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All: 

Annual Mahrram celebration is really charming beauty of peaceful Islam! Big questions are: is it really an expression of grieving or is it a jihadi protest against the non-muslim kaffirs? Or, who killed Imam Hossain and against whom this jihadi and bloody grieving/protests are targeting by Muslims. And why this blood-letting savagery needs to be exhibited by Muslims and how long this savage dance will continue to frighten this poor world? Could anybody explain the history of this bloody dance! I really could not understand the significance of this savage dance of Islam. 


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[mukto-mona] Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!



Dear Rahman Shaheb,

Sorry, I missed your nice comment you have made in this thread which deserves my response.
You are  absolutely right that, Mahrram's bloody dances are not actual jihad but, what I told in my comments are: this mahrram dances seemed like jihad dances and dose not look like ordinary mourning procession to me. In my childhood time (Pakistani period), I had a chance to watch with my elder brother one such Mahrram so called mourning procession in which those Pakistani Muslim dancers were so much bloody and were dancing ferociously with naked sword in their hands and were making so loud frightening sounds (slogan of some types) and jumping left and right that, I had to scream and asked my elder brother to take me away at once from there in a hurry. Because I was so much frightened by their devilish roars and barbaric jumping, as if they were about to attack their enemies though, still I do not know who were there enemies? They were shouting kaffirs, kaffirs etc. In my other comments I did ask the same question: who wre those so called kaffirs? But, nobody is telling me the answer of my question!!! 

Most unfortunate and funny things are: why our western Human-right champion is taking such barbarity at easy manner?  Children are tortured by inflicting blood-letting wounds which is a federal crime in the USA and many western nations in which situation normally Govt. arrest parents and takeaway those victimized children in the state custody.  But, in this case of Mahrram--this is Islamic rituals and freedom of religion, remember? Hence, western appeasers and leftist useful idiots are very much afraid of insulting Islam. They will break all age-old laws of the country only to accommodate Islamic jihadi rituals of all types. These western idiots are bending backward to accommodate all types of Islamic nonsensical barbarity but, they will not do the same for any other religion. They are afraid of getting beheading by those jihadis islamists for sure!  President Obama of course routinely climes: Islam is peace!!! 

Thanks again for your comment. 


SKM


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:50 PM, mahfuzur@aol.com <mahfuzur@aol.com> wrote:
   I am a little puzzled by these exchanges. In his original message SKM was focusing on the jihadi aspect of ashoura 'celebrations.' I may be wrong but I always thought that the annual blood-letting at Muharram was wholly a matter of mourning. The shia self-flagellate only to commemorate the martyrdom of their imam Husain whose death was a horribly bloody one. They mourn and mourn that death and will not stop till doomsday. Mourning is in the shia ethos. Blood is their most important part of that mourning. 
  Now, I do not know why this is so. It is difficult for a thinking modern man like me to understand this love of blood and blood- letting. There is a fountain in Tehran that spouts red-coloured water, I believe 24 hours a day. Such fascination with blood has no rational explanation. 
   Even more irrational ( if there is anything such thing !), is the blood-letting of children, mere babies. And that too in this country! The screaming little child, while the man carrying it slices its forehead, will forever remain etched in my mind. There must be a law against such cruelty. Why were the perpetrators not prosecuted, I wonder.      
  I do not think the blood letting in Muharram has anything to do with jihad. It is an evil symbol of sick minds.
  It is ironical that another set of sick minds, the sunnis of ISIS, wishes to do away with the sickness of the shia variety.
 
 Mahfuzur Rahman 
 
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Folks:

Thanks for your comments to this "puzzling bloody-Jihad dance" of peaceful (?) Muslims. I believe the very verse (6:137) mentioned by Mr. Asghar is not related to the Muhrram's bloody dance. The verse (6:137) probably about the custom of ancient ritual of human sacrifice for pleasing God which had been a religious practice in the ancient time. This custom was known as "Noro-bali" and later, this cruel practice was replaced by the animal sacrifice stated in the old testament. That, animal sacrifice to please Allah is still practicing vigorously by the muslims by the name of 'Korbani', though, this ancient barbaric ritual of religious fanaticism had been discontinued by all other major religions because, except Islam, all religions got civilized by the times they have passed. But, Islam never grow and continued by the spirit of ancient barbarity of superstitions in big time.

Now, question remained to be answered: what is this bloody Mohrram-dance of Jihadi Muslims? I do not believe there could be any Koranic verse exists for this monkey dance of Muslims because, Allah was already in His deep sleep at the time of Karbala tragedy and and there was no verse came to PM because PM was also dead at that time. Now, who can give us the real story of Karbala massacre and whom to be blamed for killing of PM's grandson? This monkey jihadi bloody dance seems a crazy protest or jihad but against whom? Why they are dancing like some uncivilized devils? This is the answers I want to figure out. Could anybody shed some lights in this matter please? 

Many thanks.


SKM



On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
The "literal" meaning of the verse is this:
 
In the time of the prophet Muhammad, most pagans used to slaughter their children under the influence
of their gods. This they did to destroy themselves and their religion (is it believable?).
 
Allah knew about this abhorrent act of the pagans, but did nothing to stop them from slaughtering their
children. Allah asked prophet Muhammad to leave the pagans to themselves and to their invention (what
this invention was is not clear from the verse).
 
This verse makes it clear that the pagans' gods were for real, That is how they were able to lure their
followers into slaughtering their children.
 
I may be wrong in my understanding of the words of the verse. Perhaps, these denote something else,
which can be made clear only by the learned "interpreters of the Quran," and the "scholars."
 
 
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Wed, Nov 19, 2014 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!

I am afraid, I can't make any head or tail of that sentence.... even as a metaphor for something Godly and good? Can any intelligent expert can come forward and explain it for the public? Or, people cant even dare to admit their years of ignorance?
-SD

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Msa40 <msa40@aol.com> wrote:
 
In the Holy Quran, we read:
 
6:137: "Even so, in the eyes of most of the Pagans, their "partners" made alluring the slaughter of their
            children, in order to lead them to their own destruction, and cause confusion in their religion.
            IF ALLAH HAD WILLED, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DONE SO: BUT LEAVE THEM TO THEIR
            INVENTIONS."
 
What is the "literal" meaning of the above words is not known to me. Perhaps, it can be "interpreted"
according to the "interpreters'" wish and interest!
 
 
Mohammad Asghar
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Wed, Nov 19, 2014 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Annual Celebration of Mahrram (Ashoura) another Beauty of Islam for the world to see!

These graphic photos are not children friendly! The question is who is being slaughtered by whom, if that is a question? Does God really care about these self-inflicting injuries right before the small children? I am stunned.

-SD

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Syed Mirza <skmirza.mirza@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All: 

Annual Mahrram celebration is really charming beauty of peaceful Islam! Big questions are: is it really an expression of grieving or is it a jihadi protest against the non-muslim kaffirs? Or, who killed Imam Hossain and against whom this jihadi and bloody grieving/protests are targeting by Muslims. And why this blood-letting savagery needs to be exhibited by Muslims and how long this savage dance will continue to frighten this poor world? Could anybody explain the history of this bloody dance! I really could not understand the significance of this savage dance of Islam. 


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