I am happy to see your are exploding with joy.......
Joy Bangla!
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Subject: [mukto-mona] VICTORY FOR DEMOCRACY !!!!!
সিটি কোর্পরেসনের নির্বাচনের মাধ্যমে প্রমানিত হলো বর্তমান সরকার গণতান্ত্রিক সরকার ৷ এই সফল নির্বাচন গণতন্ত্রের মানস-কন্যা শেখ হাসিনার আর একটি যুগান্তকারী সফলতা ! এই নির্বাচন শেখ হাসিনার চিন্নিত শত্রুদের গালে আরো একটি "চপেটাঘাত" , যারা এতদিন তাকে স্বৈরাচারী , গণতন্ত্র হত্যাকারী প্রভৃতি বিভিষণে ভুষিত করে আসছিলো ! বাংলাদেশে স্থানীয় পরিষদের নির্বাচন মানেই ভোট-কেন্দ্র দখল , ব্যলট -বাক্স ছিনতাই , কারচুপি , লাশ , বিশেষ করে সরকারী দলের দাপটে বিরোধী দল থাকতো "ভোট-কেন্দ্র" ছাড়া ! কিন্তু এবারের নির্বাচনে ছিলো পুরোপুরি উল্টো চিত্র ৷ ঈদের আমেজে , আনন্দঘন উত্সবে , আপামর জনতার স্বতস্ফুর্ত অংশগ্রহনে এবার অনুষ্ঠিত হয়েছে স্থানীয় সরকারের নির্বাচন , যা বাংলাদেশের ইতিহাসে এক বিরল ঘটনা !
জনগণ এই নির্বাচনের মাধ্যমে প্রমান করলো যে একটি নির্বাচিত সরকারের অধীনে সুষ্ঠ , অবাধ নির্বাচন সম্ভব ! শুধু এবারের নির্বাচন নয় , বর্তমান সরকারের আমলে প্রায় পাঁচ হাজারের মত নির্বাচনে জনগণ স্বতস্ফুর্ত ভাবে অংশগ্রহন করে তাদের ভোটাধিকার প্রয়োগ করেছে ! প্রতিটি নির্বাচন ছিলো স্বচ্ছ এবং কলঙ্কমুক্ত ৷
তাই , বিরোধী দল বিশেষ করে বিএনপির উচিত জনগনের রায়ের প্রতি শ্রদ্ধা জানিয়ে , তত্ত্বাবধায়ক ইস্যু বাদ দিয়ে , আগামী সাধারণ নির্বাচনে স্বতস্ফুর্ত ভাবে অংশগ্রহন করা ৷ তা না হলে সচেতন জনগণ কিন্তু আগামী নির্বাচনে তাদেরকে "লাল-কার্ড" দেখাবে !!
জয় বাংলা , জয় বঙ্গবন্ধু ,
ডা : মুহাম্মদ আলী মানিক ,
সহ-সভাপতি , যুক্তরাষ্ট্র আওয়ামী লীগ ৷
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Re: [mukto-mona] VICTORY FOR DEMOCRACY !!!!!
Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: IOS Current Affairs: Moment of Truth
>>>>>>>>> BTW, the Buddhists went east. Not west. They went all over the orient.
This topic has been discussed with a load of references. Please move your rear end and find out from previous mukto-mona discussions. You will find a lot of interesting discussions as well.
Shalom!
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: IOS Current Affairs: Moment of Truth
-SD
-Seuss
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: IOS Current Affairs: Moment of Truth
Maybe you were not here. We have discussed this episode in great detail here.
Dalailama is from Tibet and he took shelter in India because of his problem with Chinese communists. India still have many issues with China and gave refuge to the Dalai Lama. Not sure why the Lama will need to go to Mecca? :-)
The problem with these organized religions is that they would love to invade other countries, concur them and establish their religious hegemony with virtually no respect to the culture and religions of indigenous people
>>>>>>>> The fundamental problem is you do not what you are talking about. India was NEVER a single country UNTIL the Muslims reached India. The greater India concept was introduced by Muslim rulers and even the name "Hindustan" was given by Muslims!!
Hindus and Budhists were lucky that English came at the right time and put a stop of that organized religious crime.
>>>>>>>> You are propagating myth that is popular among ignorant Muslims and Hindus.
Fact is even 100 years after the Palashi war, leaders of all religious communities came to Bahadur Shah Zafar to lead them to freedom against the colonial masters. Unfortunately Bahadur Shah was a moghul but did not have leadership skills necessary (he was a good poet but not a great leader) to do that. He unsuccessfully tried and defeated by the Brits.
With no English intervention, India would have become a totally different country.
>>>>>> Agree.
Muslim majority countries and minorities living in them peacefully have become the butt of the jokes. Just ask any random person! Even Muslims fleeing from those countries, let alone non-Muslim minorities
>>>>>>>> Again I agree with you. Most Muslim majority countries have an issue with good governance. So both Muslims and non-Muslims suffer for lack of it.
Shalom!
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2013 4:36 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: IOS Current Affairs: Moment of Truth
The problem with these organized religions is that they would love to invade other countries, concur them and establish their religious hegemony with virtually no respect to the culture and religions of indigenous people. Hindus and Budhists were lucky that English came at the right time and put a stop of that organized religious crime. With no English intervention, India would have become a totally different country.
Muslim majority countries and minorities living in them peacefully have become the butt of the jokes. Just ask any random person! Even Muslims fleeing from those countries, let alone non-Muslim minorities
I bet this man lives in a hole without any light and air.
Here is the helpful impartial link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_Buddhism_in_India
-Seuss
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Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: IOS Current Affairs: Moment of Truth
The Sangh has been steadily doing it since as far back as 1947, when the ICS officer Madhav Godbole seized a trunk full of RSS maps and plans for ethnic cleansing of Muslims.
We hope India will lead the region as a beacon of democracy and motivate other countries to empower democracy in their system and focus on protecting common people from religious Bigots.
Shalom!
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Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2013 11:07 am
Subject: [mukto-mona] Fwd: IOS Current Affairs: Moment of Truth
Narendra Modi of Gujarat 2002 infamy is on a roll. India's corporate media is acting as if the silent majority spread over villages, talukas, mofassils, district towns, state capitals and NCR does not exist, as if it is not the "Little Citizen" who will decide the future of India with his precious vote, but the corporate boss sitting in his air-conditioned cabin and the moneybag manipulating things from behind the screen. People are still important, and urban middle class Modi fans are not the only people India has: Modiwadis are just a small fraction of the sea of humanity called Bharat.
What is bothersome is the inspiration behind Moditva, and the methodologies and modalities it employs. The inspiration, as the RSS stalwart Guru Golwalker clearly explained in his We, or Our Nationhood Defined decades back, is Hitler and his Nazi party. Golwalker approvingly talks about Hitler's genocide of Jews to be replicated in India by a similar mass murder of Muslims. Since then the Sangh and its fronts like BJP, VHP, Bajrang Dal and others have been busy creating new opportunities for mass murder of Muslims through smaller "riots" (like 37 episodes under Akhilesh rule in UP) or bigger pogroms like Ayodhya 92 and Gujarat 2002.
The Sangh has been steadily doing it since as far back as 1947, when the ICS officer Madhav Godbole seized a trunk full of RSS maps and plans for ethnic cleansing of Muslims. They have not always succeeded in polarising and dividing people because of the primarily secular and plural nature of India. For reaching 102 seats in Parliament from a mere two they staged the mass killing of Muslims in 1992-93. Mr Modi took up the Sangh torch of hatred from LK Advani, who had emerged as a "hero" in their voters' eyes just because of the anti-Muslim hysteria he had created.
Modi was protected from being sacked in 2002 by then Deputy Prime Minister and Home Minister Advani. His sacking would have been justified because of his dereliction of duty (to some, collusion with rioters) in the anti-Muslim pogrom. The Sangh has consistently been undermining the Constitution's secular values. During NDA rule it even tried to change it.
What is happening today is ominously similar to what happened in the Germany of 1933 and the rise of Hitler with the help of German industry. Today, some of India's major industrialists and their corporate media are openly backing Mr Modi as the future prime minster who will increase their profits by demolishing all the democratic and secular institutions of the state of India and by ensuring maximum profit on investments. What happens to people who are not industrialists, the preponderant majority of this country?
Mahabharata, the account of the greatest fratricidal war ever, fascinates both Mr Modi and Mr Advani. A Mahabharata against Muslims of India is the dream of the Sangh stalwarts. The choice between Mr Modi and Mr Advani is that between a rock and a hard place.
By and large, the choice today is between constitutional rule and fascist thuggery; between the common good of the masses, the farmers, the working classes in villages, towns and cities, the peace-loving people of goodwill everywhere on one side and corporate money and Hitler's chelas on the other.
The choice is very clear, very unambiguous. It is a choice between the idea of India and chaos.
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Re: [mukto-mona] FW: A Pakistani in Delhi
I know India has enough scholars and people who appreciate Urdu.
From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 8:00 pm
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As I said at people level/personal level, we do get along.
The bitterness primarily come from policy matters and issues like water sharing, border killing, transit etc.
Increasingly the role of religion in our relationship with India is decreasing. It is still there but not the most dominant issue.
Shalom!
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On reaching India, however, it did not take long to for my nervousness to dissipate. My Pakistani origin, I soon discovered, was not a disadvantage. On the contrary, my Pakistaniat was not only helping me achieve desired research goals, it also began to pose gastronomic challenges: in the form of endless dinner invitations.
That my arrival coincided with the alleged beheading of an Indian soldier at the LoC invoked an unknown fear within me. Four months later, Sarabjit's murder terrified me as well for a while. A fear of the unknown would grip me even otherwise – particularly when alone or lonely. 'Anything can go wrong and land me in trouble,' was a thought constantly nagging at me. However, the hospitality extended by my Delhi friends and acquaintances would lay to rest all such fears. Most importantly, a sense of familiarity – at times transforming into a sense of belonging – hardly ever made me feel alien.
My language, skin colour, name, or religion – nothing is alien to Delhi. On the streets, people would stop by and ask for directions. In one incident, while at a metro station I had asked a person standing next to me: "Which line goes to Rajiv Chowk?" Ironically, I was standing right underneath a route-map, which happened to be in Hindi. Rather well dressed and holding a laptop, I hardly looked like the stereotypical unlettered person. The man I spoke to was perhaps in a bad mood. Pointing towards the map, he shouted, "Why don't you read for yourself?". "I am from Pakistan, can't read Hindi", I replied in Urdu. At which he apologised immediately, shook my hand and politely guided me.
The similarities were even stronger in the case of Punjabis and Muslims – even though I am neither Punjabi nor religious. For about four months, I lived in Malviya Nagar, a Punjabi neighbourhood. My Punjabi language skills invoked such an affinity that within weeks I had an udhar system working with two local grocery stores.
Everywhere in Delhi, one overhears the azaan. Is it that moezzins in Delhi recite the azaan in a highly melodic way. My Swedish-Pakistani friend Prof Ishtiaq helped me understand that the azaan is also an assertion of Indian plurality and rights of the Muslim there.
As if to appreciate this plurality, I would candidly discuss the Kashmir question as well as the situation of Indian Muslims with my non-Muslim friends and comrades. My interaction with Muslim and Kashmiri students at Jamia Millia Islamia, with which I was attached, helped me enrich my understanding of their situation. While Kashmiri students – infested with conspiracy theories – visualised Pakistan as an Islamic paradise, Indian Muslims have no such illusions about Pakistan even if, like any other Indian, they are concerned about the crises in our country.
Also, like any other religious community, Muslims are divided along ideological and sectarian as well as class and caste lines. Jamia Millia epitomises Muslim diversity as well as the cultural progress Indian Muslims have made.
Imagine a campus in Pakistan with statues of Mirza Ghalib and Maulana Jauhar. While the road to the Mir Taqi Mir Hall is dedicated to Manto, a beautifully built auditorium is attributed to Noam Chomsky. However, my favourite hang-out was the Castro Café surrounded by the M F Hussain Gallery and the Maulana Azad Hostel.
Beyond Jamia Millia, my favourite escape was Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU). Away from conservative Delhi, JNU's walls – graffitied with huge images of Marx, Lenin, Che, Bhagat Singh and Manto – offer relief to any frustrated progressive. However, it is Faiz one finds all over the place. But Faiz and Manto are not confined to the JNU's romantic campus. They are all over Delhi. In fact, Delhi it seems has become Urdu's last refuge in the Subcontinent.
While the annual Jashn-e-Baharan Mushaira symbolised Delhi's role in preserving Urdu, a qawali session during Khusro Week at the National Museum or an evening with dhrupad master Ustad Wasifuddin Dagar at the India International Centre (IIC) convinced me that Delhi is also protecting other forms of culture that Muslims have greatly contributed to.
There is a vibrant Urdu press and a flourishing publishing business. At the International Book Fair held in February at Pragati Maidan not merely offered a glimpse into Urdu publications, it was interesting to see an Ahmadiyya bookstore next to Tahirul Qadri's Minhaj-ul-Quran bookstall. While Urdu press and publications promote a conservative agenda, progressive Muslim voices have found refuge in the recently-launched DD Urdu.
Visits to Doordarshan were always a great experience owing to the warmth shown by its Additional Director General, Ranjan Thakur. However, Faiz's life-size portrait – surrounded by those of Gandhi jee and Tagore – at DD's reception would add a special touch to every visit. Once a profitable enterprise, DD is now running huge financial losses. However, it remains committed to its social responsibility.
Apart from DD, the Indian television media is sensationalist. TRP-hungry channels have compromised themselves – journalistically and morally. Luckily, sections of the daily press, notably The Hindu and some magazines, haved stayed committed to the Indian tradition of quality journalism. Interestingly, India is the only major newspaper market that has expanded even after the arrival of the digital age.
But electronic media – the television – has outdone other outlets. The sprawling Noida Film City, on the outskirts of Delhi, is a testament to this growth. An enviably modern and efficient, though overcrowded, metro is the best way to reach Noida. Ironically, from metro station one can reach huge media houses via cycle-rickshaws. Initially, I tried to avoid using cycle-rickshaws pulled by skinny migrant workers from Bihar. But they were unavoidable as well as living proof of India's 'combined and uneven development', a theory brilliantly propounded by Leon Trotsky.
Beyond glaring class contradictions, one also comes across sights that would be very familiar for a Pakistani. The traffic is messy; manholes are usually uncovered; and there is an utter neglect for monuments (with few exceptions) and old buildings. Apart from some posh areas, most streets are littered with garbage. While there may be no power cuts, there is a real water crisis.
Since my return on June 4, I have been quizzed by siblings and cousins, friends and acquaintances. 'What do they think about us? Do they hate us?' I am asked. 'I do not know. However, I had wonderful time,' is my standard reply. Honestly, such simple questions cannot be answered in a similarly simple manner. Also, I do not have any documented evidence to substantiate or deny any claims. I can only narrate my impressions. And I think Pakistan is not the most hated country in India. We could say that about perhaps Bangladesh or Afghanistan where Pakistan is disliked near-universally. However, I can safely assert that the only country where I have been warmly received as a Pakistani is India.
The writer is a freelance contributor.Email: mfsulehria@hotmail.com
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Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: AL lost all the 4 seats in city council election! We have to find our faults, weakness constructively & amicably! No blame game among us!
>>>>>>>> Total falsehood. To repeat such non-sense (Taking verse out of context) is hate mongering. Such casual haters cause a lot of pain for a lot of people.
I am not going to defend Jamaat, they can speak for themselves. Since I am not connected with them, I lack information about what they are thinking.
Shalom!
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Sent: Tue, Jun 18, 2013 7:59 pm
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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Fw: AL lost all the 4 seats in city council election! We have to find our faults, weakness constructively & amicably! No blame game among us!
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Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:14 AM
It is a great and good advance warning before final game - to Awami League led government and to us too!
It is not Awami League's duty alone, it is our too.
No blame game among us!
Our opponents (including many media & its people) were united and firm and we were not active and united, Govt has also not took it seriously!
Though it is not correct at all! Even World Bank also never told that corruption has 'occurred'! Though Khaleda and all Jamat-BNP leader openly blamed that corruption has already done (money as 'bribe' has been taken by AL minister & other few people!
Our stupid media and opponent have made this corruption propaganda so cunningly and effectively that most us (even 95%+ of AL supporters) believed that!
Concerned Ministers have also repeatedly denied this false allegation repeatedly! But we did not listen and believed to them!
But, most of us listened & believed our opponents comment!
Rather protesting those "negative and false propaganda", some of us have believed (partly or fully) those "negative and false propaganda" and either
• Blamed our people or
• We mentally and psychologically became weak
That is why being improper and minority, they win!
lection!
It is a great and good advance warning before final game - to Awami League led government and to us too!
It is not Awami League's duty alone, it is our too.
No blame game among us!
Our opponents (including many media & its people) were united and firm and we were not active and united, Govt has also not took it seriously!
Though it is not correct at all! Even World Bank also never told that corruption has 'occurred'! Though Khaleda and all Jamat-BNP leader openly blamed that corruption has already done (money as 'bribe' has been taken by AL minister & other few people!
Our stupid media and opponent have made this corruption propaganda so cunningly and effectively that most us (even 95%+ of AL supporters) believed that!
Concerned Ministers have also repeatedly denied this false allegation repeatedly! But we did not listen and believed to them!
But, most of us listened & believed our opponents comment!
Rather protesting those "negative and false propaganda", some of us have believed (partly or fully) those "negative and false propaganda" and either
• Blamed our people or
• We mentally and psychologically became weak
That is why being improper and minority, they win!
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Re: [mukto-mona] কওমি মাদ্রাসায় সমকাম
Shalom!
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Please do not encourage using Sharia law for any crime. A crime is a crime and should be dealt with the law of the land. As many of us are not happy with the islamists, we may give them more power by associating religion and crime. It will be used by the islamists as nastiks and foreign agents attacking islam. As for the long term solution, the education system need overhauling. Regards.
Kaniz Siddiqui
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Shalom!
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Re: [mukto-mona] Minority Persecution: video
>>>>>>>> Would you kindly double check this information? I thought it was repaired during last BNP regime.
Shalom!
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