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[ALOCHONA] Fwd: [Dahuk]: Interesting videos



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From: Ertaz Chowdhury <ertaz1@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, May 5, 2012 at 5:27 AM
Subject: [Dahuk]: Interesting videos
To: dahuk dahuk <dahuk@yahoogroups.com>

 

 Ilyas Ali তুমি এখন কি ভাবছ ইলিয়াস?

Interesting videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otp32iUJGgE&feature=relmfu

M Illias Ali MP Giving his Speech In Milton Keynes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgEPRZUIWIU&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK4hjVw7mAs&feature=related

M Illias Ali MP Giving his Speech In Luton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5rNRn2ooL8&feature=relmfu

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYN0buq0I1k&feature=related

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfg2ETiA3j4&feature=related

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=8pfRUs1z_dY

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvG7PeoeFU4&feature=relmfu

Begum Khaleda Zia (BNP Chairperson) 01.flv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlUaSPkQy0Y&feature=related

Awami oppression

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOnOgnO-NAI (Sheikh Selim) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suFD0-vpm

RAW TRAINED CRUSADER

http://www.bangladeshchronicle.net/2012/04/raw-trained-crusader-100-in-action-in-bangladesh/

Indian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X43NNwcxRew

mothers mourning for disappeared sons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphFac3X2ww&feature=relmfu

forced disappearance & hartal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_1WdK9ejkU&feature=relmfu

Bangladesh: Alarming Rise in 'Disappearances'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4Q8gWzdVI&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otp32iUJGgE&feature=relmfu

M Illias Ali MP Giving his Speech In Milton Keynes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgEPRZUIWIU&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK4hjVw7mAs&feature=related

M Illias Ali MP Giving his Speech In Luton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5rNRn2ooL8&feature=relmfu

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYN0buq0I1k&feature=related

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfg2ETiA3j4&feature=related

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=8pfRUs1z_dY

Illias Ali's Interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvG7PeoeFU4&feature=relmfu

Begum Khaleda Zia (BNP Chairperson) 01.flv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlUaSPkQy0Y&feature=related

Awami oppression

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOnOgnO-NAI (Sheikh Selim) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4suFD0-vpm

RAW TRAINED CRUSADER

http://www.bangladeshchronicle.net/2012/04/raw-trained-crusader-100-in-action-in-bangladesh/

Indian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=X43NNwcxRew

mothers mourning for disappeared sons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphFac3X2ww&feature=relmfu

forced disappearance & hartal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_1WdK9ejkU&feature=relmfu

Bangladesh: Alarming Rise in 'Disappearances'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH4Q8gWzdVI&feature=relmfu




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[ALOCHONA] Jamaat is a fundamentalist party: USA



Jamaat is a fundamentalist party: USA

Zoglul Husain
zoglul@hotmail.co.uk

Forwarding to you the following report in the barta24.net 5 May 2012, which refers to change of US policy on Jamaat, in that Jamaat has now been classified by the US as a 'fundamentalist party', which amongst other things signifies strengthening of Indian hegemony over BD backed by the US, as also the strengthening of the India-Israel-US evil axis for the domination of South, South-East and Central Asia and plunder of the area.

The report is as follows:

আমেরিকার কাছে জামায়াত আর 'মধ্যপন্থি গণতন্ত্রী' নয়, 'মৌলবাদী' দল

(Please click to read)

http://www.barta24.net/?view=details&data=Forum&news_type_id=1&menu_id=64&news_id=43731

The above Bangla report refers to the following lines:

Khaleda Zia, 1991-96
The center-right BNP won a plurality of seats and formed a government with support from the Islamic fundamentalist party Jamaat-I-Islami, with Khaleda Zia, widow of Ziaur Rahman, obtaining the post of prime minister."  of the US Department of State policy document (6 March 2012):

"Background Note: Bangladesh"  (http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3452.htm), which is a part of policy document on countries "Background Notes" on countries (http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/).

In the above report, it was most blatantly and brazenly mentioned that: "The Election Commission registered over 80 million voters in preparation for parliamentary elections, which were held December 29, 2008. The Awami League swept to a landslide victory in what domestic and international observers declared a free, fair and credible election. The caretaker government ended on January 6, 2009 when Awami League President Sheikh Hasina became Prime Minister."

We know that 1/11 2007 was a conspiracy hatched by the evil axis, India-Israel-US. After failing in their minus-two policy, they conspired with Hasina to hold a totally rigged election on 29 December 2008. The recent declaration of the BNP-led 18-party alliance also said it was a totally rigged election. In the past, the US and their allies brazenly told lies about WMD in Iraq to deliberately deceive the whole world. They did the same about 1/11 2007 and the 2008 election in BD! We will certainly defeat their conspiracies! The people of Bangladesh will certainly assert their independence and sovereignty!!



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[ALOCHONA] Re: Same agenda ?....



Zoglul Husain
zoglul@hotmail.co.uk

Democratic Left Alliance and other leftists, Oil-gas Committee, etc. show black flags to Hillary-Pranab, hold demonstrations, burn effigies and urge patriots to unite and safeguard independence and sovereignty of Bangladesh!
 
They demanded that the people be informed of the treaties the Govt signed with India and the US. They said that the joint conspiracy of India-Israel-US axis has been trying to snatch our sovereignty in the name of trade-investment and strategic partnership. They urged people to unite and build resistance against India-US aggression in the politics and economics of BD.
 
For details, please see the following Amar Desh report:
হিলারি-প্রণবের আগমনে বামপন্থীদের বিক্ষোভ : মার্কিন-ভারত আগ্রাসন প্রতিহত করার আহ্বান
(Please click to read Amar Desh report 6 May 2012):
http://www.amardeshonline.com/pages/details/2012/05/06/143693

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:
Same agenda ?....



http://sonarbangladesh.com/blog/post/106873

The most interesting thing here is the strategic coordination that takes place between Washington and New Delhi in relation to Bangladesh.

One curious feature of the US-Bangladesh exchanges is that almost all US officials are making it a point to come to Dhaka via New Delhi or to make their return journey to Washington via New Delhi. Evidently, it is not a mere matter of logistics.

The pattern shows an appreciable degree of strategic coordination taking place between Washington and New Delhi in relation to Bangladesh:

M K Bhadrakumar, The great game comes to Bangladesh,
 http://indrus.in/articles/2012/05/03/the_great_game_comes_to_bangladesh_15667.html



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Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Child Abuse under Islamic cover : Fire of hell is hotter .......

Communists and god-fearing people are ideologically driven people. They have done a lot of bad karmas (deeds) in this world, purely based on their ideological biases. Much more atrocities are being committed everyday by these people than those who only believe in good-deeds without ideological influences.

Those who are ideological people are prone to distort the definition of good-deeds in favor of their ideological biases. When someone opposes or challenges their ideological doctrines, they will not hesitate to throw away good-deeds out of the window and try to make him/her conform to the doctrines at the cost of good-karmas. That's what happened to these innocent girls. Religious-communality is another example of it.  

Atheists, without communal agenda, have no reason to abandon good-karmas. Also, in my view, there is another class of people who serve God through good-deeds only, devoid of any religious ideology, have no incentive to deviate from their good-karmas. I prefer these two groups of people much more than any ideological-slaves, pretending to be good-guys.

Jiten Roy

--- On Sat, 5/5/12, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:


From: qar <qrahman@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Child Abuse under Islamic cover : Fire of hell is hotter .......
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 5, 2012, 3:10 PM

Religion is under the control of those so called 'misguided ones,' and nobody knows what they will come up with next. Nobody can touch any of those misguided ones.

>>>>>>>>>>> I see no reason why we cannot punish "Misguided ones". NO good reason at all. It is one thing to demonstrate or discuss hellfire or afterlife, it is sadistic to punish a child like this. Misguided people are derailed people. They can belong to secular, religious or any political parties. God knows all parties have their "Fair share" of misguided people. Maybe if you are not comfortable with "Religion" which motivates you to think, if we could remove religion, it would have solved all of our problems, sadly it is an illusion only.

Once upon a time our forefathers thought if they could remove the colonial Brits from our lands, it will be all right again. They were wrong. The next generation thought if they get out of Pakistan, we can return to "Golden Bengal", we are still far from that goal (After 40 years since we exited from Pakistan concept).

Recent reports tell me that even Awami League government is opting for promoting more religion (Islam), and less secularism, in peoples' lives.


>>>>>>>> Awami League came with a mandate of people of this country. If you feel we still have high level of minority persecution or it is not "Secular" enough as per your expectation, as a voter YOU have to ask that question. In a "Free" country, you have the choice to vote for another party of choice if you feel they failed you.

Had you been discussing Pakistan, I would have agreed with you about so called "Religious cartel". If religious people have any street credit, they earned it by doing good. In fact MOST religious people are very good for our country. If you feel passionately, it is the ONLY major problem in our country, FEEL FREE to present an alternative view. Post independent Awami League played with socialist concept and it FAILED badly. Corruption destroyed our jute and textile industries for a generation. I am glad Awami League of 21st century realized their past mistakes and taken a more "Market friendly" approach towards economy and this flexibility got some success in private industries.

Secular communist government failed to free people of West Bengal so badly that, today Mamata is having a political fight with Delhi to rearrange her debts of last three decades. Those "Populist" policies destroyed West Bengal.

As I stated earlier, when we will be able to transfer our country where everyone and everything has to follow laws of the land, our people will be truly FREE. Today we are still far from being a democratic country where our governments are transparent.

While I really feel where you are coming from, I do not think "Secular education" will help us much. Neither our people want to live in a society where religion has no place in it. You can randomly ask around Hindus, Muslims, Christians or smaller tribes etc. We are basically tradition bound people not even follow religious scriptures properly. Which enables people in power to abuse religion for their own personal interests.

We still beat the crap out of people to settle our issues, we do not take them to police station. We still use courts of laws to harass and "Trouble" good people most of the time rather than seeking justice in courts of law. This is the fundamental issue of our country. Until we can make that vital transformation, no secular system will help us. 

My two cents.......


-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, May 5, 2012 8:23 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: Child Abuse under Islamic cover : Fire of hell is hotter .......


I know pretty soon I will hear from people in this forum to tell me that religion is not to blame for any of these acts; only a few 'misguided ones' are to blame for this barbaric act. Those who will praise religion will perhaps shout out from their cozy sofas to punish the people involved, etc., etc., but nothing will change - because they have no power to change anything. Religion is under the control of those so called 'misguided ones,' and nobody knows what they will come up with next. Nobody can touch any of those misguided ones. I think a year or two back, we heard about the 'stoning of women' in Bangladesh resulting from a 'fotwa,' awarded by a mollah. Media buried the incident as quickly as they could. I am not sure anything happened to the orchestrator of that incident, and I am sure nothing will happen to the individual(s) involved in this incident also.
 
 Recent reports tell me that even Awami League government is opting for promoting more religion (Islam), and less secularism, in peoples' lives. This is how strong the religious cartels are. I feel pity for the innocent regular folks of Bangladesh, who are, basically, slaves of the religious cartels. It appears that there is no one to liberate them. They need authentic secular education, and there is no leader to provide that. So, they suffer, and remain impoverished ....
 
Jiten Roy
 
--- On Thu, 5/3/12, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Subject: [mukto-mona] RE: Child Abuse under Islamic cover : Fire of hell is hotter .......
To:
Date: Thursday, May 3, 2012, 7:21 PM

 
          Let us think deeply about the future of our citizenry and BAN  political madrassahs that are there only to indoctrinate economically deprived underclass..  Only those certified Madrassahs will be allowed where top quality religious education is seriously pursued. All other countries and religions have religious schools where future priests study for a lifetime dedicated to the service of God.  Why can't we have something like that?

            Can we organize a protest march against Madrassah cruelty?

Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 18:56:36 -0400
Subject: Child Abuse under Islamic cover : Fire of hell is hotter .......
From: syed.aslam3@gmail.com
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com

Madrasa teacher  Jesmin Akhter demonstrates lesson of hell to 14 girls

Thursday, May 3, 2012           
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Fire of hell is hotter

Madrasa teacher demonstrates lesson of hell to 14 girls


The hot spatula mark on a girl's leg inflicted by her madrasa teacher to give her a bit of experience of the hell for not offering prayers regularly. 14 girls were made victim of this brutal idea. Photo: Courtesy ATN BanglaStaff Correspondent
A teacher of a girls' madrasa on Tuesday seared legs of 14 students with a hot spatula in her punitive attempt to make them feel the "agony of fire in hell".
The girls, aged between eight and 12, underwent the hellish experience as they were "irregular" in their prayers. They are students of Talimul Quran Mahila Madrasa at Namashyampur in the capital's Kadamtali area.
The victims received treatment at local clinics for the injuries on their left legs.
Teacher Jesmin Akhter went into hiding after father of a victim had filed a case, said Sub-inspector Shaker Mohammad Jubair of Kadamtali police.
Abdul Jalil, father of victim Jannatul Ferdous, 8, told The Daily Star that after a 10-day holiday the madrasa reopened on Tuesday and his daughter attended the class at 8:00am.
Informed by another guardian, he rushed to the institution around 1:30pm and met a gathering of protesting locals.
Jalil quoting his daughter said Jesmin inflicted burns on the 14 students at around 8:30am for not being "regular" in offering their prayers during the vacation.
During her act of "punishment" Jesmin was quoted as asking the victims if they knew the severity of the fire in hell. If they didn't say their prayers regularly, they would experience such torment in hell, she added.
Jalil said the teacher kept her spatula on a burning gas oven adjacent to the classroom and each time burned the legs of three students.
The madrasa is housed on the first floor of a two storey building. Of the four rooms in the flat, the teacher lives in one room with her family while one room is used as the office and the rest for classes. Students attend their classes here sitting on the floor.
Jesmin also forced the wounded students to continue with the classes untill 1:15pm when mother of a student went to the madrasa with meal for her daughter, police said.
Agitating locals immediately besieged the madrasa, but police intervened and brought the situation under control, said SI Jubair.
Neither guardians nor the police could confirm immediately whether the madrasa is approved by the government.



Related:

http://www.bangladeshnews24.com/jugantor/2012/05/03/36880.htm 








[ALOCHONA] From Colonisation to Interference



From Colonisation to Interference PDF Print E-mail
Written by Ahmed Ben Bella   
Saturday, 05 May 2012 20:50
Ahmed Ben Bella interviewed by Silvia Cattori (Voltaire Network | 9 May 2006)
The former Algerian president Ahmed Ben Bella recalls several historical truths: the illegitimacy of one people dominating over another - that took place formerly in Algeria and today in Palestine; the global reality, and not an Arab one, of colonisation and the struggle for national liberty; Western interference by overthrowing nationalist governments and revolutionaries in countries in the south of the world; and maintaining the aftermath of colonisation. He emphasizes that today, it's the Christian Evangelical fundamentalists who export violence.
 
Ahmed Ben Bella is one of the great figures of Arab nationalism. He was one of the nine members of the Committee of Algerian Revolutionaries that gave birth to the National Liberation Front (NLF). Arrested by the French occupiers in 1952, he managed to escape. Once again arrested in 1956, along with seven colleagues, he was detained in the la Santé prison until 1962. After the signing of the Evian Accord, he became the first elected president of independent Algeria. On the domestic front, he initiated a Socialist policy characterised by a vast program of Agrarian reform.


On the international front, he brought his country into the UN and engaged in the movement of non-aligned countries. His influence grew in the struggle against imperialism, driven by the great powers that supported his military coup d'etat. From 1965 to 1980 he was placed under surveillance. Since then, he has held the position of his country's interior affairs minister, yet he continues to play an international role, in particular as president of the International Campaign against the attack in Iraq. Central actor of historical dissidence, he responds to questions from Silvia Cattori for Voltaire Network.
S.C.: You have the air of a young man! Do you know, Mr. Ben Bella, that you have imprinted a very positive image in the hearts of people throughout the world?
A.B.B.: (Laughs) My life has been a bit special, this is true. I participated in the liberation of my country. I was one of the organisers of its struggle for liberation. I likewise actively participated in all the struggles for liberation. My life is a life of combat; I can say that this has never stopped for a single instant. It is a combat that started for me at the age of 16. I'm 90 years old now, and my motivation hasn't changed; it's the same fervour that drives me.


S.C.: In 1965, it was not the French who imprisoned you; it was your brothers in arms. Today, what do you feel towards those who had so brutally barred the road?
A.B.B.: I don't feel contempt, I don't feel hate. I think that they participated in something that was not very proper and was very pitiful, not only for the Algerian people, but also for the other people who counted on our support. My fight to bring better conditions of life to Algerians thus plunged into great poverty, and my fight to help other still colonised people to recover their freedom bothered certain authorities. From their point of view, I had gone too far. I had to disappear. That is to say, if the Algerian army had not overthrown me, others would have done so. I had to disappear, because I had become too much of a nuisance. I accommodated practically all of the liberation movements, including those of Latin America.


S.C.: The question arises with insistence: have not the leaders of anti-imperialist movements supported Israel, a State that is ideologically and legislatively racist, who since its creation has engaged in a policy of ethnic cleansing in Palestine? Consequently, they have badly guided generations of young people, falsified the debate, while Israel has been very active besides the United States to combat communism, to combat Nasser and Arab nationalism, in supporting horrible regimes?
A.B.B.: These days such questions are on the table, they generate debate. We did not want a biased solidarity. We did not want a State that, like Israel, would be a favourite tool of this cruel global system driven by the United States, which practices a policy that has already caused so much harm. For us, it's a double betrayal. First of all, the betrayal of those who, on the side of the left, should have been on our side, loyal to the Palestinian and Arab causes, and were not. Secondly, the betrayal of all the Jews with whom we felt close, with whom we had similarities, and with whom we lived in perfect harmony. The Arabs and the Jews are cousins. We speak the same language. They are Semites like us. They themselves speak Aramaic, we speak Aramaic. Aramaic includes several branches: Ethiopians speak Aramaic, Erytrians speak Aramaic, people of Jewish confession speak Aramaic, and Arabs speak Aramaic. It's this that harms us: it's that we know we have been betrayed by those who are close to us, by the people who are our cousins, who are similar to us and speak Aramaic like us. We are familiar with anti-Semitism; we are Semites. I add that even their prophet is our prophet.

Yes, yes. There is a problem of education. It belongs to those who are in the direction of progressive parties to respond in the correct manner to any given situation. But this is not the case. We have a flag, we have a national anthem, the rest of what we have is the West, with its varied tendencies, that decides our place. All of this is clothed with pretty words, covered up with the help of organisations like the World Bank and the IMF, who are none other than the instruments of torture created by the West to continue their domination. This means that we have gotten out of a system of direct colonialism in exchange for something that seems better, but is not. However, I repeat to you, I have this hope that in the north that has already done us so much harm, it's youth is in the process of taking measures against this logic of domination that creates more and more poverty as well in the north as the south. Even if it's not the same domination as that which is applied in the south, it's a situation of poverty that nobody who is free can accept. How many people are left unemployed, in poverty, on the street? It's this, perhaps, that will end up provoking people of the north to change their viewpoints and participate in a definite way with us.


S.C.: But these days we do not see many people in the West protesting against the atrocities committed in Iraq, in Palestine, in Afghanistan. Do you not have the impression that there are so many cleverly maintained prejudices against Arabs and Muslims — including anti-war organizations — that to support their resistance is a very farfetched idea?
A.B.B.: It's true, the leftist parties for which one awaited are not at a meeting place; they have taken a stand there on top. As soon as the one speaks of Islam, they oppose Bin Laden. I wouldn't want to live in his republic, but I don't criticise him. When I see what Bush does, I don't allow myself to criticise Bin Laden. I say it to you frankly: the attack against the towers in New York, I don't condemn them. I condemn Bush, I condemn the American government, because I consider Bin Laden a product of their policies. They have closed all the doors of dialogue with Arab Muslims. They have made them believe throughout the decades that if they do this or that, the West would bring justice in Palestine. But, Israel and its allies never wanted peace with us. Israel has not stopped making war and terrorising our people. Bin Laden is indirectly the creation of Bush and Israel. These two States spread death and hate in the Middle East and the world: they have left us with no other alternative than that of a violent confrontation. All of the radical movements, categorised as « terrorists » or « fundamentalists » are born in response to terrorists in Tel Aviv and Washington who bring wars of destruction to Arab people. What choice do they have, these people that have been bombarded with such savageness? Faced by modern armies, they have no other arms than sacrificing their lives in creating an explosion, voila. In the Quran we call this "shahadah." It's an extraordinary idea that is expressed in this word. It's a state of despair, where someone who is distressed can no longer bear living. He sacrifices himself, not to obtain a better life for himself, but so that at least his people can live better. It's the greatest of sacrifices. We call them in the West "terrorists." But, I say it in all sincerity, I myself bow down before someone who can make a similar sacrifice, I assure you.


S.C.: If I understand well, you say that everything that puts the people of the Middle East in revolt has been generated by the West. That all those who fight must sacrifice themselves, suffer for others? That in the past the Arabs have demonstrated tolerance?
A.B.B.: Completely so. The violence expressed in the Arab Muslim world is a result of the culture of hate and violence that Israel has caused in imposing itself by force on the land of Arabs. These are the atrocities of this illegal State that compels the most valorous to react. I don't think there will be a fight more noble than that of the Palestinians who resist against their occupier. When I see what these people have endured for more than a century, and who continue to find the force to fight, I am in admiration. Today, the same ones who massacre these people pass off those of Hamas as fascists, terrorists. They are not fascists, they are not terrorists, they are resistants!


S.C.: Palestine is an imprisoned nation. How does one, even a leftist, come to speak of « terrorism ", instead of speaking of the right to resist by arms? Do you see major parallels or differences between the colonialisation of Algeria by France and the colonialisation of Palestine by Israel?
A.B.B.: It's worse in Palestine. Moreover because there is apartheid. The French cannot chase us out of a country that is five times the size of France. They tried to create a buffer zone in the north, with the least amount of Algerians possible, but they didn't succeed. They didn't establish a true apartheid like the Israelis and Palestinians. The State of Israel has created the most terrible of dominations.


S.C.: In your opinion, will the Palestinians live under occupation less time than the Algerians did?
A.B.B.: I believe so. First of all, colonialism is a phenomenon that is clearly established and sanctioned by international law. Furthermore, if there is an issue that creates unanimity in the Arab world, it's Palestine. As long as the Palestinians do not obtain justice, the Arab Muslim world will not be able to feel free either. It's like a part of their flesh that remains captive.


S.C.: In the past, the policy was not more noble, but there was still a balance. Since the end of global bipolarism, the most basic moral principles have been swept aside. Everywhere we speak of fighting « terrorism », but we hardly speak of the 800 children killed in Palestine by Israeli soldiers since 2000; the millions of Iraqi children killed or who are sick, who don't have the right to a normal development. Guantánamo, Abu Ghraib, would they have been possible if the international community had had the decency to say no to the violence of Washington? Which responsible State still has clean hands in this so-called war against « terrorism »?
A.B.B.: It's unbelievable what has happened in Guantánamo, Abu Ghraib and elsewhere. And all this horror continues to increase and generate great suffering. We learn that the United States has built prisons in Eastern Europe to escape jurisdictions of their countries and that Europe participated in all of this. Switzerland is even blamed for having authorized the passing of planes over their territory, transporting phantom prisoners, kidnapped, subjected to torture.


S.C.: In your opinion, what are the means to oppose the strategy put in place by Bush and the neo-conservatives?
A.B.B.: It's a fundamentalist movement, but Christian, that is! The problem we face today is this: the ideology of Bush is the worst fundamentalism that one can imagine. These are the famous Evangelist Protestants who inspire Bush. It's a terrible fundamentalism. What are the means that we ultimately have to fight with? I spoke to you about the hopes that I've put in young people, all in knowing that there are no real means to fight this awful system. I know, it is not enough to go on the street. Something else needs to happen, to invent other methods of action, but it is necessary to act and not give in. And when we have the feeling of not advancing, it is necessary to say to ourselves that one passes through these phases, a certain amount of time is needed before a great number of people reaches understanding. We start to act with those who understand clearly, even if this does not cover all the problems. But afterwards, we need to overcome the obstacles, and say to ourselves that it's neither the Socialist party, all Socialists who are in favour, nor such and such association that is going to change the world.


S.C.: In order to again reach balance, could the solution come from China and Russia?
A.B.B.: I think that hope could come from China. In the past, Russia helped us in an extraordinary way. But for now, unfortunately, Russia is not in an easy situation. I would not put hope in it. I would count very much on China. First of all, it has selling points that Russia doesn't have. It's a country ahead of others in expansion. Even the West is going to invest in China to enrich its economy. Twenty years from now we will see the new political map.


S.C.: While we are waiting, what should be said to people who have been left neglected, in Palestine, in Iraq?
A.B.B.: We never act with the thought that it's us who are going to be the beneficiaries. We act because it's necessary to act. The great conquests have never been the product of a single generation. We say in my country that he who eats is not he who serves the meal. It's necessary to create a network of solidarity that unconditionally supports the struggle of its people.


S.C.: What to say to these young people who you mentioned, witnesses of so much abuse?
A.B.B.: It's necessary that they overcome, that they take initiatives. It does not suffice to get together periodically in a big gathering, if nothing changes, it's necessary to move on to something else: to invent new forms of fighting instead of waiting.


S.C.: But has the time not come that Arabs take the direction of an anti-war movement up to this point between the hands of the West?
A.B.B.: Yes, yes. Given the gravity of the situation in the Middle East, it is the Palestinians or the representatives of movements in the Arab world who have to make a move. I think that the Arab movement, the Palestinian movement, all of these forces, if they combine and go beyond their differences of opinion, are a hope not only for the Arabs. They can equally contribute to changing the world, a world system that functions.


S.C.: You seem to be optimistic!
A.B.B.: Oh you know, I'm nothing but optimistic: I've spent my life in acting. I am not satisfied making speeches, I devote all of my time in acting by means of the organisation North-South. Also I believe that, sometimes, the forces of hope come from where we least expect them.


S.C.: The first constitutive congress of the Peoples' Arab Alliance of Resistance was held the end of March 2006 in Cairo. The participants called the people to put themselves "under the banner of internationalism to support the Arab people in their fight against imperialistic violence." Is it not the starting point of a campaign that, if the progressive parties of the West rally together, could boost the anti-war movement and go in the direction of your hopes?
A.B.B.: Yes, I am personally in favour of this initiative. What is important is to advance. One does not advance if one doubts, if one thinks it's finished, if one remains only in a state of dissension. We advance and we correct our errors. Life is like that. There are also, in the Arab camp, many obstacles to overcome. We have to make an effort to go beyond these disagreements. In effect, we have in the Arab movement, the same weaknesses which are present in the anti-imperialist movement in the West.


S.C.: There are almost ten thousand Palestinians arbitrarily imprisoned in Israeli jails. They are not recognised as political prisoners. Ahmed Sa'adat - kidnapped by Israel in March of 2006 in Jericho, with six colleagues - whereas he was under American and British guard - has since been subjected to continuous torture. He has reaffirmed his will to not give up, in saying: "No matter the place where I will be, I continue to fight." You must recognise yourself in this affirmation, you who know what it means to be imprisoned?
A.B.B.: Yes, I spent 24 and a half years in prison. When the French locked me up in la Santé, they put me with prisoners who would be guillotined. I saw the guillotine from my cell. It's terrible what Israel forces the Palestinians to undergo as ill treatment. Currently I have only one project: it's Palestine. I will do anything possible to help them. To reach peace, in Palestine and the world, the system of the marketplace needs to be rid of. Because the problems are immense, the damage is immense. Leaving the world in the hands of finance and murderers is a crime. It's that which is terrorism. It's not Bin Laden.


S.C.: When you hear the heads of State say that they've made a war in Iraq in the name of liberty and democracy, what do you want to say to them?
A.B.B.: I tell them that the right to live is the first of human rights. The right of mankind is the right to live. All the philosophies where I'm from speak of the right to life. Safeguarding life, to live, is the first of things for which one aspires. But the global system is not humble enough to guarantee this right. It exploits, it kills. And when it can't kill, it builds savage prisons, abuse which pretends to bring about democracy. In Afghanistan and Iraq, the United States started to do what Israel always had done against the Palestinians. One speaks of Israeli and American democracy. But what democracy have they brought while destroying any chance to live?


S.C.: Are you suffering for Iraq?
A.B.B.: Ah yes, Iraq for me. I've gone to Iraq five times, you know. (Silence). I failed to be killed in Iraq. It's intolerable to see what one has done in Iraq! In this country which is the cradle of civilisation! Iraq, it's there where we started to cultivate the land, it's there where humanity was born, it's there where the first principles were based, it's there where the alphabet was created, the first code is that of Hammurabi. All of this was destroyed by ignorant leaders, by a nation that has no more than 250 years of history, which was itself a colony of Great Britain. They ridded themselves of British colonialism and established a worldwide colonialism. What became of the 80 million American Indians? I will never return to America, it's a country of crooks.


S.C.: Do you feel that the wars in Afghanistan and the Middle East are racist?
A.B.B.: Completely so. These are wars brought against Islam, against the Arab civilisation. This is clearly evident. Of the countries who are outside of the law, according to Bush, only one is not Arab Muslim, North Korea. The others, Syria, Iraq, Sudan, Iran, are all Muslim. The Crusades aimed supposedly at restoring the tomb of Jesus Christ. Sometimes, to tease the West, I tell them: Jesus Christ, what language did he speak? He spoke my language, not yours, he spoke Aramaic like me! When you read the Bible, Jesus Christ says: "Eli; Eli, Lama sabakta-ni." And we say in Algeria: "Ilahi limada sabakta-ni." These are exactly the same words that Jesus pronounced. Jesus spoke like me. Islam takes many things from the Evangelists as well as the Bible, which it came to supplement.
Forced with seeing these abuses, I explode. One has done to us so much wrong. One has hit us in our dignity. Without speaking of the dear people of Palestine. How many Palestinians are obliged to live under the most contemptible iron rule? Our reaction is not racist, I assure you. We have had more than enough of that. The West has done a lot of harm. Is it not the West that has committed the worst crimes against humanity? Fascism, where does it come from? Nazism, where does it come from? Stalinism, where does it come from? The famous Inquisition, which lasted 400 years, where did it take place? Frankly, it is necessary to have a lot, a lot of selflessness to say to oneself every day that passes, I don't want to hate the West.


S.C.: Is it not necessary to condemn the supporters of "the clash of civilisations," the pro-Israelis, as the principle instigators of anti-Arab hate, anti-Islam, which is spreading in a disturbing way against your people?
A.B.B.: Completely. The Israeli lobby in the United States is something terrible. Until now it was forbidden to speak of them without being marked as anti-Semitic. Recently, several studies have come to attest by undisputable examples the weight of the Israeli lobby in the political and military options taken against us. Nobody today can deny the importance, even the danger, of this lobby, which penetrates all the strategic spheres. I am thus very concerned by this aspect of things that makes the settling of the Palestinian question more difficult.
I am going to tell you, although Islam has encountered so many woes, Islam has never done wrong to other counties. In history, Islam showed a tolerance that does not exist at all elsewhere, whereas Israel has succeeded in establishing itself by force in a space and in a place which was inhabited by Palestinians - one of the most developed Arab people - and created there, in the dispossession of their land, a racist state. As long as Israel will refuse to recognize the rights of Palestinians to exist and come back to their land, there will not be peace in the world.





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[mukto-mona] Guerilla Internet: Using the net to fight its own dominance



         This is a wonderful story! I know Shahidul since we were children. His mother and aunts were dedicated teachers and played pioneering roles in girls' education in the early days of post-Partition. He runs a very progressive gallery which exhibits the marvelous products from his photography school and works by international stars and artists.

          I also had the good fortune of meeting Debarati Guha, the writer of this article, while she was visiting Dhaka on a graduate scholarship in 2009.

                   Farida Majid

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Guerilla Internet: Using the net to fight its own dominance

In Bangladesh, less than 15 percent of the population has electricity - a reality that confirms the 'Digital Divide.' But Dr. Activist Shahidul Alam argues that technology in itself is not the answer.

The largest European Internet conference, re:publica, in Berlin may have seen many international speakers before, but surely never a bearded Muslim from Bangladesh, who challenges the meaning behind the term "third world" and gives an alternative of his own.
This time, it did. His name is Dr. Shahidul Alam, a photographer, writer activist and intellectual from Bangladesh and a jury member for the 2012 Best of Blogs (BOBs) competition.
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In his keynote lecture on "The Borders of the Global Village," Shahidul talks about the problematic of the expression "third world" and says, "I do not want to be third anything." Instead he wants to remind the "first world" countries that the G8 nations constitute only 13 percent of the world's population. "When 'they' take decisions which affect 'our' lives and use words like 'democracy' and 'freedom,' it does not represent the people of Bangladesh."

Instead, Shahidul prefers to use the terminology "majority world" and says the use of technology and the power of culture put together provide a very strong mix.
Shahidul then talks about the Internet, which is in his mind, can be a subversive tool. It remains the only medium which - relatively inexpensively, and without the support of the gatekeepers - can make lone voices be heard everywhere.

The 'majority world's' advantages
In his opinion, the "majority world" has the power to take this technology and use it in creative and innovative ways with very limited resources. "In fact, what one calls the 'development campaign' can be done through this technology. And it is this unique characteristic that we have to nurture."
The bigger players have the money, the clout, the physical strength and the social control to bludgeon their way through, says Shahidul, but they do not have the flexibility, the ability to pop up and disappear at will, the speed of action or the elasticity to slip through the holes, that the well trained individual has. Given the important proviso of access, the net is fast, cheap, and difficult to stop. And that is why it is the "net that we must use to fight its own dominance."
Dr. Shahidul Alam

Dr. Shahidul Alam prefers the term 'majority world' to 'third world'


At the same time, he is aware of the divisions within Bangladeshi society. Shahidul knows that the urban elite in Bangladesh is distanced from the rural poor. So he talks about how they can ensure that this technology does not only benefit the privileged in his country, but also those who are being deprived at many different levels.
In his opinion, "'digital Bangladesh' is an election promise and certainly this was one of the tickets with which the government came into power. There are a bunch of fossils trying to cope with a bunch of words that they don't really understand. The actual work is done by the private sectors, by the young kids who have taken this technology and really run with it." Looking forward, he says, "I think Bangladesh is going to do extremely well in the digital sector, with this technology. Not because of the government, but despite it."


As Edward Said would argue in his Culture and Imperialism, "The new media have the power to penetrate more deeply into a 'receiving' culture than any previous manifestation of Western technology." And that is why Shahidul thinks, "What Bangladesh needs to do is to open up this technology. Rather than trying to kill the golden goose, ensure that it is nourished and nurtured, so the golden nougats are shared by all."


Flexibility and creativity
In Shahidul's words, "At re:publica, I saw that there is a WiFi signal. I wanted to connect to it. They were very helpful, but they could not give me connectivity in less than 24 hours. In Bangladesh, someone would have done it in 5 minutes."
Cables 'It is the net that we must use to fight its own dominance'


According to Shahidul, there is a wide range of areas where the "majority world" moves faster, is more flexible and more creative. "And because we are used to working with limited resources, we can actually make those resources work far more effectively than some organizations can. I think in some ways they have been spoiled by their compliancy."

The abundance the so-called "first world" has "has removed their ability to work with limited resources."
Thus, "We must stare this dual dominant hegemony straight in the face, but we cannot, dare not, let this technology pass us by. To find creative routes to turn this technology to our benefit is our greatest challenge." As an African saying goes: "Until the lions can tell their own stories, stories about hunting will always glorify the hunter."


Author: Debarati Guha
Editor: Sarah Berning



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[mukto-mona] 32,000 year old underwater Dwarka city found [Must See]



32,000 year old Ancient city Dwarka found.

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This is an amazing documentary by History Channel. Every Indian
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