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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।

Stupid fools like you may get tempted with Hur Pori. A true Muslim is always fear of Hell and keep crying for escaping the punishment in the grave. Hur Pori awarded to shahba's who struggled most to establish Islam.

Read the Quran carefully with open heart, you will find the answer. In one of the verses it's clearly mentioned:

"আল্লাহ আরেকটি দৃষ্টান্ত বর্ণনা করেছেন, দু'ব্যক্তির, একজন বোবা কোন কাজ করতে পারে না। সে মালিকের উপর বোঝা। যেদিকে তাকে পাঠায়, কোন সঠিক কাজ করে আসে না। সে কি সমান হবে ঐ ব্যক্তির, যে ন্যায় বিচারের আদেশ করে এবং সরল পথে কায়েম রয়েছে।"

Under current situations we Muslims are like 'Dumb', we can't do anything for our 'Deen', including myself. We will be lucky if only can escape the hell fire n punishment in the grave, which none can imagine, how tough it will be.

May Allah (SWT) save us from the Hell Fire.

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


> On 2 Oct 2017, at 5:08 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I think you are missguiding when suggested prophet got it wrong on gxamut. Hur pori pimp had it all figure out for you. I ticked you off, exposing Omar, lied.about imortality. He was behead by his slave, whom he claimed as a reward from Almighty, when He never approve of slavary. His beheading was devine retribution. If dont believe in the reason for qymat that prophet outlined, you are not true believer, just anothet hyphanated muslims who lost their omar as sudo prophet. Some worship him or ali. They see hadis and revised Koran, which is full of contridictions as the Almighty words. He is owner of the Universe, not a mere narrator of Omars position. Omar admirer are among those against whom Phropet warned.
> If you dont think Omar grave sin in disobeying prophet at his deathbed, then I know you fooled by satan. And beyound help. A slave couldnt killed Omar in brutall way unless Almighty wanted it.
>
> Though I hate Jamati Islam, but agree with its foundet Miulana moudidi criticism of omar and charaterization of him as bastrd. Many othet sunni parties in pakistan and india accuse moudidi as shia in disguise; I dont about that but was right on that instance.
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 10/2/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।
> To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>, "Khabor(email group) DC" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>, "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>, "ranu51@hotmail.com" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "azadcop@yahoo.com" <azadcop@yahoo.com>, "Mohiuddin Anwar" <almuntakim@gmail.com>, "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Bijoy Daas" <bijoydaas1971@gmail.com>, "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>, "SITANGSHU GUHA" <sbguha@yahoo.com>, "BANE BANE" <Bane.usa1971@gmail.com>, "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>, "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Bangladesh Environment Network" <BEN@listserv.cc.emory.edu>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>, "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "Syed Margoob" <smargoob@yahoo.com>, "Zahirul Bhuiyan" <mukulcity@gmail.com>, "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "bane-us@googlegroups.com" <bane-us@googlegroups.com>, "Iqbal Yousuf" <iqbalyousuf1@yahoo.com>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@gmail.com>, "Suhas Barua" <suhasboston@gmail.com>, "aleem53@yahoo.com" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com" <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Muazzam Kazi' via BDPANA" <bdpana@googlegroups.com>, "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>, "zainul321@yahoo.com" <zainul321@yahoo.com>, "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "subain1@yahoo.com" <subain1@yahoo.com>
> Date: Monday, October 2, 2017, 1:02 AM
>
> Mr. KO,
>
> Allah (SWT) so great, he made us aware of the people like
> you, as he warned in his great Devine
>
> "তারা শয়তানের
> মত, যে মানুষকে কাফের
> হতে বলে। অতঃপর যখন সে
> কাফের হয়, তখন শয়তান
> বলেঃ তোমার সাথে আমার
> কোন সম্পর্ক নেই। আমি
> বিশ্বপালনকর্তা
> আল্লাহ তা'আলাকে ভয়
> করি।"
>
> Your
> confession about Allah (SWT) n his Prophet (SWT) truly
> matched with the verse in Surah Al-Hashr.
>
> Capt. Razzak A. Syed
>
>
> Sent from my
> iPhone
>
>
>>
> On 2 Oct 2017, at 3:22 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Razzak
>> Do you know,
> Prophet had premonition, all kinds of suedo / hyphenated
> muslims increasingly many of whom will be so interested
> conquering and bloodleting, plundering all in the name
> Islam, that Almighty will have to end it with qyamut with
> disgust. He was so right, mankind didnt have to wait too
> long, it started with Omar. Conquering replace preaching, in
> Islam peace has diminishing role, more and more like
> bloodletting like kafir is taking over the authority of what
> Islam should be like. Duplicity will be mode conduct. Talk
> of peace when cornered or to fool, like dishonest sob.But
> conquer when it is convinient or recruit some unsavvy with
> promise of hur pori.
>>
>> Tell me if said anything wrong on
> qyamat.
>>
>>
> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/1/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Subject:
> Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা
> কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের
> কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান
> ছিলো না।
>> To:
> "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com,
> "bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>,
> "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com"
> <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>,
> "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>,
> "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>,
> "Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>,
> "Khabor(email group) DC" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>,
> "BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>,
> "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>,
> "ranu51@hotmail.com"
> <ranu51@hotmail.com>,
> "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>,
> "azadcop@yahoo.com"
> <azadcop@yahoo.com>,
> "Mohiuddin Anwar" <almuntakim@gmail.com>,
> "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>,
> "Bijoy Daas" <bijoydaas1971@gmail.com>,
> "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>,
> "SITANGSHU GUHA" <sbguha@yahoo.com>,
> "BANE BANE" <Bane.usa1971@gmail.com>,
> "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>,
> "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>,
> "Bangladesh Environment Network" <BEN@listserv.cc.emory.edu>,
> "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>,
> "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>,
> "Syed Margoob" <smargoob@yahoo.com>,
> "Zahirul Bhuiyan" <mukulcity@gmail.com>,
> "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>,
> "bane-us@googlegroups.com"
> <bane-us@googlegroups.com>,
> "Iqbal Yousuf" <iqbalyousuf1@yahoo.com>,
> "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@gmail.com>,
> "Suhas Barua" <suhasboston@gmail.com>,
> "aleem53@yahoo.com"
> <aleem53@yahoo.com>,
> "bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com"
> <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>,
> "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>,
> "Muazzam Kazi' via BDPANA" <bdpana@googlegroups.com>,
> "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>,
> "nabdc@googlegroups.com"
> <nabdc@googlegroups.com>,
> "Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>,
> "zainul321@yahoo.com"
> <zainul321@yahoo.com>,
> "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>,
> "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>,
> "subain1@yahoo.com"
> <subain1@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 9:55 PM
>>
>> Mr. KO,
>>
>> "Zakir
> in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted
>> to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it.
> To prove to
>> prophet, he doesn't
> worship kaba, he had to climb on the
>>
> top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their
>> religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as
> new convert from
>> kafir found hard
> those practices."
>>
>> Neither Mr. Zakir nor myself
>> or anyone of us present at the time of
> Prophet (SAW).
>> However, to the best of
> my knowledge through various
>> religious
> scholars like mufti or aleems, prophet (SAW)
>> wanted to remove those Idols from the
> Kabah, not demolishing
>> the house of
> Allah (SWT). There is a huge difference between
>> removing Idols and removing the house.
>>
>> Besides that you are
> talking like the
>> controversial people
> used to confront prophet (SAW), as
>>
> Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran, meaning is like
> "
>> oh, Mohammad, neither you or the
> questioner were present at
>> the cave,
> only I(Allah) know how many of them were there and
>> the dog, it's not the matter of
> argument with numbers,
>> it's a
> matter of truth."
>>
>> So, what is the point you are arguing? Do
> you
>> believe in Kalima 'Tyabah'?
> Do you believe Prophet
>> Mohammad (SAW)
> was the last Messenger and slave of
>>
> Allah(SWT)? If don't, then you aren't a Muslim.
>>
>> Razzak A. Syed
>>
>>
>> Sent from my
>>
> iPhone
>>
>>
>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 12:29 pm,
> Khoniker
>> Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Zakir in one youtube
>> video confirmed, Prophet wanted to
> demolish kaba, but Omar
>> was opposed it.
> To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship
>> kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba,
> recited Azan.
>> Kafir dont step on their
> religious artifactsm; shia and
>> sunni as
> new convert from kafir found hard those
>> practices.
>>
>



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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।

I think you are missguiding when suggested prophet got it wrong on gxamut. Hur pori pimp had it all figure out for you. I ticked you off, exposing Omar, lied.about imortality. He was behead by his slave, whom he claimed as a reward from Almighty, when He never approve of slavary. His beheading was devine retribution. If dont believe in the reason for qymat that prophet outlined, you are not true believer, just anothet hyphanated muslims who lost their omar as sudo prophet. Some worship him or ali. They see hadis and revised Koran, which is full of contridictions as the Almighty words. He is owner of the Universe, not a mere narrator of Omars position. Omar admirer are among those against whom Phropet warned.
If you dont think Omar grave sin in disobeying prophet at his deathbed, then I know you fooled by satan. And beyound help. A slave couldnt killed Omar in brutall way unless Almighty wanted it.

Though I hate Jamati Islam, but agree with its foundet Miulana moudidi criticism of omar and charaterization of him as bastrd. Many othet sunni parties in pakistan and india accuse moudidi as shia in disguise; I dont about that but was right on that instance.
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/2/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।
To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>, "Khabor(email group) DC" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>, "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>, "ranu51@hotmail.com" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "azadcop@yahoo.com" <azadcop@yahoo.com>, "Mohiuddin Anwar" <almuntakim@gmail.com>, "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Bijoy Daas" <bijoydaas1971@gmail.com>, "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>, "SITANGSHU GUHA" <sbguha@yahoo.com>, "BANE BANE" <Bane.usa1971@gmail.com>, "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>, "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Bangladesh Environment Network" <BEN@listserv.cc.emory.edu>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>, "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "Syed Margoob" <smargoob@yahoo.com>, "Zahirul Bhuiyan" <mukulcity@gmail.com>, "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "bane-us@googlegroups.com" <bane-us@googlegroups.com>, "Iqbal Yousuf" <iqbalyousuf1@yahoo.com>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@gmail.com>, "Suhas Barua" <suhasboston@gmail.com>, "aleem53@yahoo.com" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com" <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Muazzam Kazi' via BDPANA" <bdpana@googlegroups.com>, "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>, "zainul321@yahoo.com" <zainul321@yahoo.com>, "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "subain1@yahoo.com" <subain1@yahoo.com>
Date: Monday, October 2, 2017, 1:02 AM

Mr. KO,
     
Allah (SWT) so great, he made us aware of the people like
you, as he warned in his great Devine

"তারা শয়তানের
মত, যে মানুষকে কাফের
হতে বলে। অতঃপর যখন সে
কাফের হয়, তখন শয়তান
বলেঃ তোমার সাথে আমার
কোন সম্পর্ক নেই। আমি
বিশ্বপালনকর্তা
আল্লাহ তা'আলাকে ভয়
করি।"

Your
confession about Allah (SWT) n his Prophet (SWT) truly
matched with the verse in Surah Al-Hashr.

Capt. Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my
iPhone


>
On 2 Oct 2017, at 3:22 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Razzak
> Do you know,
Prophet had premonition, all kinds of suedo / hyphenated
muslims increasingly many of whom  will be so interested
conquering and bloodleting, plundering all in the name
Islam, that Almighty will have to end it with qyamut with
disgust. He was so right, mankind didnt have to wait too
long, it started with Omar. Conquering replace preaching, in
Islam peace has diminishing role, more and more like
bloodletting like kafir is taking over the authority of what
Islam should be like. Duplicity will be mode conduct. Talk
of peace when cornered or to fool, like dishonest sob.But
conquer when it is convinient or recruit some unsavvy with
promise of hur pori.
>
> Tell me if said anything wrong on
qyamat.
>
>
--------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/1/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা
কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের
কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান
ছিলো না।
> To:
"Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com,
"bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>,
"mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>,
"DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>,
"Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>,
"Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>,
"Khabor(email group) DC" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>,
"BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>,
"Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>,
"ranu51@hotmail.com"
<ranu51@hotmail.com>,
"New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>,
"azadcop@yahoo.com"
<azadcop@yahoo.com>,
"Mohiuddin Anwar" <almuntakim@gmail.com>,
"Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>,
"Bijoy Daas" <bijoydaas1971@gmail.com>,
"N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>,
"SITANGSHU GUHA" <sbguha@yahoo.com>,
"BANE BANE" <Bane.usa1971@gmail.com>,
"Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>,
"Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>,
"Bangladesh Environment Network" <BEN@listserv.cc.emory.edu>,
"Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>,
"Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>,
"Syed Margoob" <smargoob@yahoo.com>,
"Zahirul Bhuiyan" <mukulcity@gmail.com>,
"NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>,
"bane-us@googlegroups.com"
<bane-us@googlegroups.com>,
"Iqbal Yousuf" <iqbalyousuf1@yahoo.com>,
"Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@gmail.com>,
"Suhas Barua" <suhasboston@gmail.com>,
"aleem53@yahoo.com"
<aleem53@yahoo.com>,
"bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com"
<bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>,
"Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>,
"Muazzam Kazi' via BDPANA" <bdpana@googlegroups.com>,
"Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>,
"nabdc@googlegroups.com"
<nabdc@googlegroups.com>,
"Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>,
"zainul321@yahoo.com"
<zainul321@yahoo.com>,
"Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>,
"S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>,
"subain1@yahoo.com"
<subain1@yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 9:55 PM
>
> Mr. KO,
>     
> "Zakir
in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted
> to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it.
To prove to
> prophet, he doesn't
worship kaba, he had to climb on the
>
top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their
> religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as
new convert from
> kafir  found hard
those practices."
>
> Neither Mr. Zakir nor myself
> or anyone of us present at the time of
Prophet (SAW).
> However, to the best of
my knowledge through various
> religious
scholars like mufti or aleems, prophet (SAW)
> wanted to remove those Idols from the
Kabah, not demolishing
> the house of
Allah (SWT). There is a huge difference between
> removing Idols and removing the house.
>
> Besides that you are
talking like the
> controversial people
used to confront prophet (SAW), as
>
Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran, meaning is like
"
> oh, Mohammad, neither you or the
questioner were present at
> the cave,
only I(Allah) know how many of them were there and
> the dog, it's not the matter of
argument with numbers,
> it's a
matter of truth."
>
> So, what is the point you are arguing? Do
you
> believe in Kalima 'Tyabah'?
Do you believe Prophet
> Mohammad (SAW)
was the last Messenger and slave of
>
Allah(SWT)? If don't, then you aren't a Muslim.
>
> Razzak A. Syed
>
>
> Sent from my
>
iPhone
>
>
>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 12:29 pm,
Khoniker
> Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Zakir in one youtube
> video confirmed, Prophet wanted to
demolish kaba, but Omar
> was opposed it.
To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship
> kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba,
recited Azan.
> Kafir dont step on their
religious artifactsm; shia and
> sunni as
new convert from kafir  found hard those
> practices.
>



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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।

Mr. KO,
Allah (SWT) so great, he made us aware of the people like you, as he warned in his great Devine

"তারা শয়তানের মত, যে মানুষকে কাফের হতে বলে। অতঃপর যখন সে কাফের হয়, তখন শয়তান বলেঃ তোমার সাথে আমার কোন সম্পর্ক নেই। আমি বিশ্বপালনকর্তা আল্লাহ তা'আলাকে ভয় করি।"

Your confession about Allah (SWT) n his Prophet (SWT) truly matched with the verse in Surah Al-Hashr.

Capt. Razzak A. Syed


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> On 2 Oct 2017, at 3:22 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Razzak
> Do you know, Prophet had premonition, all kinds of suedo / hyphenated muslims increasingly many of whom will be so interested conquering and bloodleting, plundering all in the name Islam, that Almighty will have to end it with qyamut with disgust. He was so right, mankind didnt have to wait too long, it started with Omar. Conquering replace preaching, in Islam peace has diminishing role, more and more like bloodletting like kafir is taking over the authority of what Islam should be like. Duplicity will be mode conduct. Talk of peace when cornered or to fool, like dishonest sob.But conquer when it is convinient or recruit some unsavvy with promise of hur pori.
>
> Tell me if said anything wrong on qyamat.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 10/1/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।
> To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>, "Khabor(email group) DC" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>, "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>, "ranu51@hotmail.com" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "azadcop@yahoo.com" <azadcop@yahoo.com>, "Mohiuddin Anwar" <almuntakim@gmail.com>, "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Bijoy Daas" <bijoydaas1971@gmail.com>, "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>, "SITANGSHU GUHA" <sbguha@yahoo.com>, "BANE BANE" <Bane.usa1971@gmail.com>, "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>, "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Bangladesh Environment Network" <BEN@listserv.cc.emory.edu>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>, "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "Syed Margoob" <smargoob@yahoo.com>, "Zahirul Bhuiyan" <mukulcity@gmail.com>, "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "bane-us@googlegroups.com" <bane-us@googlegroups.com>, "Iqbal Yousuf" <iqbalyousuf1@yahoo.com>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@gmail.com>, "Suhas Barua" <suhasboston@gmail.com>, "aleem53@yahoo.com" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com" <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Muazzam Kazi' via BDPANA" <bdpana@googlegroups.com>, "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>, "zainul321@yahoo.com" <zainul321@yahoo.com>, "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "subain1@yahoo.com" <subain1@yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 9:55 PM
>
> Mr. KO,
>
> "Zakir in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted
> to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it. To prove to
> prophet, he doesn't worship kaba, he had to climb on the
> top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their
> religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as new convert from
> kafir found hard those practices."
>
> Neither Mr. Zakir nor myself
> or anyone of us present at the time of Prophet (SAW).
> However, to the best of my knowledge through various
> religious scholars like mufti or aleems, prophet (SAW)
> wanted to remove those Idols from the Kabah, not demolishing
> the house of Allah (SWT). There is a huge difference between
> removing Idols and removing the house.
>
> Besides that you are talking like the
> controversial people used to confront prophet (SAW), as
> Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran, meaning is like "
> oh, Mohammad, neither you or the questioner were present at
> the cave, only I(Allah) know how many of them were there and
> the dog, it's not the matter of argument with numbers,
> it's a matter of truth."
>
> So, what is the point you are arguing? Do you
> believe in Kalima 'Tyabah'? Do you believe Prophet
> Mohammad (SAW) was the last Messenger and slave of
> Allah(SWT)? If don't, then you aren't a Muslim.
>
> Razzak A. Syed
>
>
> Sent from my
> iPhone
>
>
>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 12:29 pm, Khoniker
> Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Zakir in one youtube
> video confirmed, Prophet wanted to demolish kaba, but Omar
> was opposed it. To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship
> kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba, recited Azan.
> Kafir dont step on their religious artifactsm; shia and
> sunni as new convert from kafir found hard those
> practices.
>



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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।

I dont find true Zakir niak as true authority of Islam, but he has vast background in it. And I am savvy enough to read through lines. I will not easy to fool me with stories abd hur pori.
--------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।
To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>, "Khabor(email group) DC" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>, "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>, "ranu51@hotmail.com" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "azadcop@yahoo.com" <azadcop@yahoo.com>, "Mohiuddin Anwar" <almuntakim@gmail.com>, "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Bijoy Daas" <bijoydaas1971@gmail.com>, "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>, "SITANGSHU GUHA" <sbguha@yahoo.com>, "BANE BANE" <Bane.usa1971@gmail.com>, "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>, "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Bangladesh Environment Network" <BEN@listserv.cc.emory.edu>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>, "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "Syed Margoob" <smargoob@yahoo.com>, "Zahirul Bhuiyan" <mukulcity@gmail.com>, "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "bane-us@googlegroups.com" <bane-us@googlegroups.com>, "Iqbal Yousuf" <iqbalyousuf1@yahoo.com>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@gmail.com>, "Suhas Barua" <suhasboston@gmail.com>, "aleem53@yahoo.com" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com" <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Muazzam Kazi' via BDPANA" <bdpana@googlegroups.com>, "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>, "zainul321@yahoo.com" <zainul321@yahoo.com>, "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "subain1@yahoo.com" <subain1@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 9:55 PM

Mr. KO,
     
"Zakir in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted
to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it. To prove to
prophet, he doesn't worship kaba, he had to climb on the
top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their
religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as new convert from
kafir  found hard those practices."

Neither Mr. Zakir nor myself
or anyone of us present at the time of Prophet (SAW).
However, to the best of my knowledge through various
religious scholars like mufti or aleems, prophet (SAW)
wanted to remove those Idols from the Kabah, not demolishing
the house of Allah (SWT). There is a huge difference between
removing Idols and removing the house.

Besides that you are talking like the
controversial people used to confront prophet (SAW), as
Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran, meaning is like "
oh, Mohammad, neither you or the questioner were present at
the cave, only I(Allah) know how many of them were there and
the dog, it's not the matter of argument with numbers,
it's a matter of truth."

So, what is the point you are arguing? Do you
believe in Kalima 'Tyabah'? Do you believe Prophet
Mohammad (SAW) was the last Messenger and slave of
Allah(SWT)? If don't, then you aren't a Muslim.

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my
iPhone


> On 2 Oct 2017, at 12:29 pm, Khoniker
Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> Zakir in one youtube
video confirmed, Prophet wanted to demolish kaba, but Omar
was opposed it. To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship
kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba, recited Azan.
Kafir dont step on their religious artifactsm; shia and
sunni as new convert from kafir  found hard those
practices.



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[mukto-mona] Re: Quran =dictation. Misrepresantion Prophet is work of satan

"তোমাদের কাছে এসেছে তোমাদের মধ্য থেকেই একজন রসূল। তোমাদের দুঃখ-কষ্ট তার পক্ষে দুঃসহ। তিনি তোমাদের মঙ্গলকামী, মুমিনদের প্রতি স্নেহশীল, দয়াময়।

এ সত্ত্বেও যদি তারা বিমুখ হয়ে থাকে, তবে বলে দাও, আল্লাহই আমার জন্য যথেষ্ট, তিনি ব্যতীত আর কারো বন্দেগী নেই। আমি তাঁরই ভরসা করি এবং তিনিই মহান আরশের অধিপতি।"

Above is enough for a true Muslim.

Razzak A. Syed

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> On 2 Oct 2017, at 2:44 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Meaning of Quran is dictation. Is the Quran as we know today has just thendictations from Prophets. If not, then that can be charcterized as represention of his dictation. Putting words in his mouth is not only nonsense but of grave conseque to man kind. Equaly sin to accept those nonse as his dictations
>
> When Prophet dictated, few of his desciples jotted down on what they found handy, like palm tree leaves, even on blades from camel skeleton. Some even memorized the verses. During Abu reign fifteen of Prophets close disciples who were with him from early early days got killed in a battle. Abu gathered remaining 8 from those period ( he had only 23 desciples in the first decade) to compile the complete work in book form. It turns out to be about 114 pages.
>
> When Omar got reign, opend that dictations book for editing. During his time it was not finished. Third caliphah decided finilized editing. Omar who rather conquer than preaching, as he did in kafir time, probably never around to verify or didnt cared what they entered. I should mentioned, he denied Prophet his last wish, and left him ignore fourdays till he dird ( thursday to mondays). Ali and him were busy arguing over mantle. Now t if any of them important in your belief, then will put youn hyphenated-muslim group. Prophet didnt know if any hyphenated-muslim in his life time.



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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।

Razzak
Do you know, Prophet had premonition, all kinds of suedo / hyphenated muslims increasingly many of whom will be so interested conquering and bloodleting, plundering all in the name Islam, that Almighty will have to end it with qyamut with disgust. He was so right, mankind didnt have to wait too long, it started with Omar. Conquering replace preaching, in Islam peace has diminishing role, more and more like bloodletting like kafir is taking over the authority of what Islam should be like. Duplicity will be mode conduct. Talk of peace when cornered or to fool, like dishonest sob.But conquer when it is convinient or recruit some unsavvy with promise of hur pori.


Tell me if said anything wrong on qyamat.


--------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।
To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "bangladesh-progressives googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "DeEldar" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Iqbal Kabir" <iqbalkabir582@gmail.com>, "Khabor(email group) DC" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "BANGLADESH C.FORUM" <bdesh_cul.forum@yahoo.com>, "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>, "ranu51@hotmail.com" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "azadcop@yahoo.com" <azadcop@yahoo.com>, "Mohiuddin Anwar" <almuntakim@gmail.com>, "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Bijoy Daas" <bijoydaas1971@gmail.com>, "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>, "SITANGSHU GUHA" <sbguha@yahoo.com>, "BANE BANE" <Bane.usa1971@gmail.com>, "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>, "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Bangladesh Environment Network" <BEN@listserv.cc.emory.edu>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>, "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "Syed Margoob" <smargoob@yahoo.com>, "Zahirul Bhuiyan" <mukulcity@gmail.com>, "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "bane-us@googlegroups.com" <bane-us@googlegroups.com>, "Iqbal Yousuf" <iqbalyousuf1@yahoo.com>, "Bangladeshi Americans" <bangladeshiamericans@gmail.com>, "Suhas Barua" <suhasboston@gmail.com>, "aleem53@yahoo.com" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com" <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Muazzam Kazi' via BDPANA" <bdpana@googlegroups.com>, "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "Isha Khan" <bdmailer@gmail.com>, "zainul321@yahoo.com" <zainul321@yahoo.com>, "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "subain1@yahoo.com" <subain1@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 9:55 PM

Mr. KO,
     
"Zakir in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted
to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it. To prove to
prophet, he doesn't worship kaba, he had to climb on the
top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their
religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as new convert from
kafir  found hard those practices."

Neither Mr. Zakir nor myself
or anyone of us present at the time of Prophet (SAW).
However, to the best of my knowledge through various
religious scholars like mufti or aleems, prophet (SAW)
wanted to remove those Idols from the Kabah, not demolishing
the house of Allah (SWT). There is a huge difference between
removing Idols and removing the house.

Besides that you are talking like the
controversial people used to confront prophet (SAW), as
Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran, meaning is like "
oh, Mohammad, neither you or the questioner were present at
the cave, only I(Allah) know how many of them were there and
the dog, it's not the matter of argument with numbers,
it's a matter of truth."

So, what is the point you are arguing? Do you
believe in Kalima 'Tyabah'? Do you believe Prophet
Mohammad (SAW) was the last Messenger and slave of
Allah(SWT)? If don't, then you aren't a Muslim.

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my
iPhone


> On 2 Oct 2017, at 12:29 pm, Khoniker
Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> Zakir in one youtube
video confirmed, Prophet wanted to demolish kaba, but Omar
was opposed it. To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship
kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba, recited Azan.
Kafir dont step on their religious artifactsm; shia and
sunni as new convert from kafir  found hard those
practices.



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[mukto-mona] Quran =dictation. Misrepresantion Prophet is work of satan

Meaning of Quran is dictation. Is the Quran as we know today has just thendictations from Prophets. If not, then that can be charcterized as represention of his dictation. Putting words in his mouth is not only nonsense but of grave conseque to man kind. Equaly sin to accept those nonse as his dictations

When Prophet dictated, few of his desciples jotted down on what they found handy, like palm tree leaves, even on blades from camel skeleton. Some even memorized the verses. During Abu reign fifteen of Prophets close disciples who were with him from early early days got killed in a battle. Abu gathered remaining 8 from those period ( he had only 23 desciples in the first decade) to compile the complete work in book form. It turns out to be about 114 pages.

When Omar got reign, opend that dictations book for editing. During his time it was not finished. Third caliphah decided finilized editing. Omar who rather conquer than preaching, as he did in kafir time, probably never around to verify or didnt cared what they entered. I should mentioned, he denied Prophet his last wish, and left him ignore fourdays till he dird ( thursday to mondays). Ali and him were busy arguing over mantle. Now t if any of them important in your belief, then will put youn hyphenated-muslim group. Prophet didnt know if any hyphenated-muslim in his life time.


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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।

Mr. KO,
"Zakir in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it. To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as new convert from kafir found hard those practices."

Neither Mr. Zakir nor myself or anyone of us present at the time of Prophet (SAW). However, to the best of my knowledge through various religious scholars like mufti or aleems, prophet (SAW) wanted to remove those Idols from the Kabah, not demolishing the house of Allah (SWT). There is a huge difference between removing Idols and removing the house.

Besides that you are talking like the controversial people used to confront prophet (SAW), as Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran, meaning is like " oh, Mohammad, neither you or the questioner were present at the cave, only I(Allah) know how many of them were there and the dog, it's not the matter of argument with numbers, it's a matter of truth."

So, what is the point you are arguing? Do you believe in Kalima 'Tyabah'? Do you believe Prophet Mohammad (SAW) was the last Messenger and slave of Allah(SWT)? If don't, then you aren't a Muslim.

Razzak A. Syed


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> On 2 Oct 2017, at 12:29 pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Zakir in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it. To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as new convert from kafir found hard those practices.



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[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} দূর্গা পূজা কিন্তু কখনই হিন্দুদের কোন ধর্মীয় অনুষ্ঠান ছিলো না।

Sir Syed
Unlike true believer .hyphenated muslims, like, Sunni-muslim, shia-muslim and whab-muslim,, flaunt few cardinal laws/ core principal of Islam .
. a) I have seen Wahhabi leave holy Koran on floor walk around just like any other book, and open the book without uzu, arguing that"s what prophet mandated. But in sunni and shia community, people maybe condemned to death for that.
b) If prophet thought Kaaba important for direction why prayed in the direction Jerusalem , first 17 months of accepting Islam, was that a mistake. How kaba is / was significant with Muslim when Almighty is omnipresent. In Kafir belief Kaba.s sanctity is from the notion in their religion that god lives there. This instance Bagadadi has a argument of not accepting kaba , but like kafir, he believes in violence in the name of God, that makes him kafir . I see arument that kaba is used only direction then why circle for haj.
Most of muslims from first decade of Isam were more perfect, Those who dismiss Islamic preaching preceding battle of Al badar. In favour of jihad are hyphenated muslims. You will be more perfect muslim than what you are , just by following the practice of preaching from fist decade.


Zakir in one youtube video confirmed, Prophet wanted to demolish kaba, but Omar was opposed it. To prove to prophet, he doesn't worship kaba, he had to climb on the top of kaba, recited Azan. Kafir dont step on their religious artifactsm; shia and sunni as new convert from kafir found hard those practices.
b) Prophet is the last authority on religion. Any qualification / modification / misrepentation of his of statement is no no; that didnt stop many reinterpreting sura kafirun. Your explication , it was in different context, so not valid. But In many other verses repeated same message of not managing others belief.
Was He that wrong, on so many occasions and hyphenated muslims got it right. Imposing belief was a big part of kafir practices, so with not so savvy Muslims.


Then newly convert from kafir belief like Omar, Ali and abdul whabh lot to say after Prophet passed away , that shaped hyphenated Muslims culture , but true believer only pay attention first decade of Islam, Kifir also believed beautiful pori will be waiting for them,in after life. when Islam says green pasture. Many hyphenated muslims agrees with kafir position and made Islam contradicting in the eyes of some and violence prevalent . Unlike true believers, hypenated-believers find in favor of Hadis and sharias Laws over first decade of Islam, even though those were scripted by people born more than century after advent of Islam.


I have seen, young Indonesian islamic student aguing restrict their studies to first 10 years Islamic preach8ng, no hadis or sharia law, from cebturies later. If mslims from first decade are very good muslims, then that is sufice for religion. Tven dont need inspiration from hur pori for them to take religion at heart. There was no mentikn Omar or Ali in Islamic litreature.


The way Onar and Ali died.is divine justice. Almighty never does wrong.



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Date: Sunday, October 1, 2017, 4:35 PM

Mr. KO,
 
"As matter of fact prophet did wanted remove it before
Omar protested."

Your
above statements don't have any valid references other
than propaganda by the kafirs, which you had previously
circulated.

Once in a
private email, you mentioned, you fear Allah (SWT) and a
practicing Muslim, but your actions or thoughts don't
match.

As Allah (SWT)
mentioned in the Quran, even Muslims does 'Shirik'
(just like devoting themselves for Peer Shaheb or following
black magician). Every individuals are tested for their
faith, either by difficulties in life or poverty or by
wealth.




Razzak A.
Syed


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> On 1 Oct 2017, at 11:12 am, 'Khoniker
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> As matter of fact
prophet did wanted remove it before Omar protested.




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A perfect verse to remain a Muslim, and never to become a human being!!

SuBain

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On Sunday, October 1, 2017 8:07 PM, Rezaul Karim <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com> wrote:


Sura Al Baqara , verse 228: 

"O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy." 


On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 7:30 PM, qamruddin chowdhury <qamruddinc@yahoo.com> wrote:
I fully agree with your comments Razzak bhai.  I don't know what sort of Muslim KO is?  His comments on islam are opposite of hadees most of the time. He even doesn't believe in Quran or Hadees as i understand from  his own confessions. Weird, so called muslim. Only Allah SWT shall decide who is truly a believer and who isn't.   Hence. I don't  argue on these points.




On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 3:35 PM, 'Razzak Syed' via North America Bangladeshi Community
Mr. KO,
  "As matter of fact prophet did wanted remove it before Omar protested."

Your above statements don't have any valid references other than propaganda by the kafirs, which you had previously circulated.

Once in a private email, you mentioned, you fear Allah (SWT) and a practicing Muslim, but your actions or thoughts don't match.

As Allah (SWT) mentioned in the Quran, even Muslims does 'Shirik' (just like devoting themselves for Peer Shaheb or following black magician). Every individuals are tested for their faith, either by difficulties in life or poverty or by wealth.




Razzak A. Syed


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> As matter of fact prophet did wanted remove it before Omar protested.

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