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Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh




Here is another version of the episode which ultimately brought about the war of roses between the prophet and his wives:

ALLAH FROWNS ON THOSE WHO ABSTAIN FROM HAVING SEX WITH THEIR SLAVE GIRLS

( Surah No. 66 AT- TAHRIM )
CONTEXT OF THE SURAH **

It was Hafsa's turn to sleep with the Prophet .. Her maid Maria Quptia ( a gift from King of Alexandria)  was also in her room  when prophet walked in.. Maria was a very  attractive and  voluptuous  young   teenager..  She  aroused carnal desires  in any man who looked at her; then our Prophet was not any man, he was endowed with 30 man libido* by Allah. .

Narrated Qatada:

 " Prophet was given the  sexual strength of thirty men"

To be alone with Maria, Prophet sent Hafsa to her Dad's house  with a phony excuse that Umar wanted to see her.

UMAR WAS AWAY PERFORMING SUNNA

Umar was not home,  when Hafsa reached her Dad's place few houses  down the street.

Hafsa: "Mom Where is Dad"?

Mother: "He has gone to the Al Manasi field near Baqia  to defecate"...

Hafsa:  "Why doesn't he go to the field  behind  our house"..

Mother:  "Because it is a sunna to relieve yourself at the place where Prophet relieves himself"..

Hafsa: "I will wait for him" .

Mother :"It may be a long wait. He   hides there afterwards to spy on  prophet's wives".

Hafbsa: "Spy on prophet's wives, what for"? .

Mother  "To make  sure   they are veiled  according to aya 33.59  when they come to relieve themselves. As you know this aya was sent* by Allah at your Dad's request".

Narrated 'Aisha:

(the wife of the Prophet) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Apostle "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam'a went out and she was a tall woman. 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while she was (defecating)  in a  group, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He ('Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the verse of veiling 33.59. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1)

* Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 395:

Narrated 'Umar (bin Al-Khattab):  Allah agreed with me on three things and revealed ayas, one of them was

the verse of the veiling of the women (33.59) .

.Hafsa:  "Well I cant wait that long.  It is my turn with Prophet ,  he must be in bed   waiting for me".

PROPHET IN BED BUT NOT WAITING

When Hafsa  returned, she found Preophet in   bed  but not waiting. He was in action with her maid  Maria. Hafsa was outraged (she had a temper of her Dad Umar) and started hollering at him.

Hafsa: "Rasulullah you lied and and deceived  me to screw my maid"?.

Prophet:" Hafsa mind your language. Aya 33.32* says  you should  talk to Allah's  Prophet in an a honorable manner".

* 33.32 "O wives of the Prophet! Speak to the prophet  in an honorable manner"..

Hafsa: "I will speak honorably to the   prophet when  the Prophet  stops acting dishonorably  himself".

Prophet: "Having sex with slave girls is not dishonorable.  Allah has made*  them  halal for me".

*33.50 "Mohammed , sex with slave girls and captured women is halal for you*

Hafsa:" I don't give a rat's behind who is  is halal for you and who  is  is not .. You can have  sex with a she camel  for all I care. But I don't want it   in my bed and on my night".

Prophet: "Hafsa ,calm down.  I will tell you something. If you keep this incident  a  secret  between you and me and don't tell any one,  I take an oath that  I will never  touch  Maria  again. And Please cool down first . Go have a drink of cold water....

Hafsa: " O.K. I have to go pee also...

AYA 66.1 AND 66.2  REVEALED

 Hafsa returned after a short while and  found her husband again  in  bed  with Maria.

Hafsa:  "Rasulullah, You have a  short memory.  You had just said you will not touch her again".

Prophet: "Yes I did,  but Allah revealed  aya  66.1 after you left, it says "Mohammed why do you forbid yourself  what Allah has made lawful to you just to please your wife"

Hafsa:  "What about the  oath  you took."

Prophet::   "Allah   dissolved my oath" by aya 66.2 which says Allah has ordained for you  the dissolution of your oath. And Allah is your Maula".

ALLAH SPIED  FOR THE PROPHET

        Next  morning when Prophet  returned from Fajr prayer,  his wives gave him dirty looks and a silent treatment instead of happily greeting him like every day... As smart as our prophet was, he knew right away  that Hafsa, had ratted and had divulged last night's incident to all other wives who incidentally  hated Maria for her beauty and prophet's  fondness for her.. Prophet was pissed off and  rushed into Hafsa's room: "When I told  you   to keep last night's incident with Maria a secret to yourself, I trusted you;  why did you spread it"? .

Hafsa: "Who informed you that I spread it"?

Prophet :  "Allah informed* me":

*  66.3  "The prophet had trusted one of  his wives with a certain incident, then she spread it, and GOD let him know about it. He then told his wife,she asked him, "Who informed you of this?" He said, "I was informed by  Allah".

Hafsa started trembling with fear. She had no idea Allah spied for the prophet and tattletaled to him his  wives private talks and gossips.

MISBEHAVING  WIVES  WILL BURN IN HELL FIRE

 Angry Prophet then gathered all his resentful    wives and conveyed the following chilling message from Allah  to them which had just arrived.

66.5 "If  Mohammed  divorced you all,  Allah will give him in exchange wives better than you who are  submissive and  devout".

That message was a death sentence to the scared wives. A divorce meant starving to death since no body was allowed to marry Prophet's wife according to an earlier aya...

Prophet continued:

66.10,11 " On one hand wives of Allah's  prophets Noah and Lut misbehaved with their husbands and they were put in hell fire. On the other hand wife of the kafir Pharoah was well behaved and  she was awarded paradise"..

ONE MONTH  BREAK EXCLUSIVELY WITH MARIA

      All the wives started wailing. Starving to death was one thing ; burning in hellfire for ever was something else.They grabbed his feet and  begged  him for mercy.  The merciful prophet then took pity on them and decided to apply  abstention clause of aya 4.34  (abstaining from sex  with wives as a disciplinary action ) He could have divorced them like Allah suggested or  beaten them under scouging clause of  aya 4.34 .

(Here are the specifications for  wife beating for our momin brothers who practice it or intend to practice it):

   He stayed away from all his wives for a month*  and slept  exclusively  with  Maria  to humiliate them  further and make them jealous .

"The Prophet did not go to his wives because of the secret which Hafsa had disclosed to 'Aisha, and he said that he would not go to his wives for one month as he was angry with them when Allah admonished him for his oath that he would not approach Maria".

 Allah also decided to pitch-in in the  misery of Prophet"s  wives    by  making  Maria pregnant with a baby boy  ( Ibrahim), something Mo desired most and which could not be delivered by any of the nine resident  wives.

** Note: Several embarrassed  sahabis made false   hadiths  later about this sura to protect good name of Mohammed. They fabricated the story and said it was honey and not Maria   which prophet took  an oath to  abstain from .  That is ridiculous and does not make any sense.  Here is what Ibn Saad wrote in "Tabaqat"

"Waqidi has informed us that Abu Bakr has narrated that the messenger of Allah (PBUH) had sexual intercourse with Maria in the house of Hafsa.. She told the prophet, O Messenger of Allah, do you do this in my house and during my turn? The messenger said, control yourself and let me go because I make her haram to me. Hafsa said, I do not accept, unless you swear for me. That Hazrat (his holiness) said, by Allah I will not contact her again [Tabaqat v. 8 p. 223 Publisher Entesharat-e Farhang va Andisheh Tehran 1382 solar  h ( 2003) Translator Dr. Mohammad Mahdavi Damghani]  





2012/3/11 Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
 

          Veiling of women or 'purdah' system has always been associated with upper class from the beginning of civilization everywhere in the world. It is funny that the Islamists politics is claiming it to be a paradigmatic Islamic dress code.  Other than bland, mildly toned general advice to women on modesty, the Qur'an surprisingly says nothing about mandating hijab or niqab for women. That rogue, Abul Ala Moududi, the father of modern Islamic fundamentalism, was quite annoyed at the fact that the Qur'an does not mandate hijab. 
 
         It is said that the Bedouin society in Arabia, where Jews, Christians and Muslims, men and women, wore dresses covering their heads, they did not practice 'purdah' in the way we know it now, and that it was imported from the more cosmopolitan Sassanians as a status symbol for women by the fledgling Muslim community.
 
          Anyway, you can see it in the women of Bangali society of all religions -- lower class working women have more freedom of movement than the middle caste or class. In our warm and humid climate, an extra item of clothing is burdensome and uncomfortable, not always desirable by choice. 
 
[I have an article on the subject where I analyze the verses in the Qur'an pertaining to women and hijab, published in 2004 both in Dhaka and Pakistan, blogged in numerous sites and is archived in Islamic Research Foundation Information]
 
         Farida Majid
 

To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: subimal@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 22:40:52 -0500

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
I read somewhere (maybe K, Armstrong) that veil was a sign of aristocracy and that's why prophet's wives and other women had to wear it. I believe every sura has to be analyzed in the light of the given context. 

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On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 



The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh). 

>>>>>>> You are wrong AGAIN! Get a grip on yourself.....


"O; Prophet (Muhammad)! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside)........

[ Source: Al Qur'an 33:59 ]



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Shalom!

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To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh).  Across the history of Islam, the use of burkha or other versions of purdah by Muslim women was never universal.

2012/3/8 Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>
 
What is going on in Bangladesh one after another?
 
 

Wed 7 Mar 2012 10:30 PM BdST

rtnnনীলফামারী, ৭ মার্চ (আরটিএনএন ডটনেট)-- সৈয়দপুরে লায়ন্স স্কুল অ্যান্ড কলেজে বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরিধান নিষিদ্ধ করা হয়েছে। ড্রেসকোড পালনের অজুহাতে এ মৌখিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা জারি করায় ছাত্রী ও অভিভাবকদের মধ্যে তীব্র ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়েছে।

এ অবস্থায় বিপাকে পড়েছে পর্দা পালনে আগ্রহী শিক্ষার্থীরা। অভিভাবকার প্রতিবাদে সোচ্চার হলেও স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় দিন দিন ক্ষোভ দানা বাঁধছে।

জানা গেছে, গত ২৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি ওই বিদ্যালয়ে অ্যাসেম্বিলি চলাকালে কর্তৃপক্ষ উপস্থিত শিক্ষার্থী ও শিক্ষকদের মৌখিকভাবে জানিয়ে দেয় যে, আজ থেকে স্কুলে আসতে হলে বোরকা বা স্কার্ফ পরা চলবে না। এরপরও কেউ তা পরে তাকে ট্রান্সফার সার্টিফিকেট (টিসি) নিয়ে অন্যত্র চলে যাওয়ার পরামর্শ দেয়া হয়।

পরদিন কিছু শিক্ষার্থী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে স্কুলে গেলে তাদের বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ ক্লাসে গিয়ে খুলে ফেলার নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়। কিন্তু অনেকে না খোলার কারণে তাদেরকে ক্লাসে অপমান করা হয় এবং সিন্ধান্ত অনুসরণে কঠোরভাবে পুনরায় নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।

এরপরও গত শনিবার কোনো কোনো ছাত্রী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে গেলে তাদের অ্যাসেম্বিলির সময় সবার সামনে তা খুলতে বাধ্য করা হয়। এর পর বিষয়টি ছাত্রীদের মাধ্যমে অভিভাবকসহ সৈয়দপুরের সচেতন মহলে জানাজানি হলে ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়।

স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় �=A





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Re: [mukto-mona] FW: Nude Photo Revolutionary Calendar to mark Int'l Women's Day



I have emphasized on the word 'symbolic'. Also I have suggested that this sort of protest can be staged only by very angry human rights activists. You are right when you say that this mode of protest is unthinkable in our society. Our thoughts cannot go too far because of our taboos, prejudices, fear, moral  values. Hunger strike has long been accepted. Even killing oneself (we have cases of protest by students committing suicide by scheduled caste students in India) have got validity. Nude procession by males
may even be easily acceptable. But no way the nude procession in Dhaka by a bunch of angry women will be accepted. Again, you are right. We are not yet there. 
No doubt the idea is novel and revolutionary. It has to be symbolic to be effective. Mass nudity will simply defeat the
purpose. 
Playboy is a purely recreational magazine with almost nil educational value. Justifying it as a resource is hypocritical. 
Finally I do not agree always you, but I enjoy your presentation.  

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On Mar 10, 2012, at 2:20 PM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 

I know you are sincere and I respect your opinion on this issue.

During my university days, I had a discussion with my gentleman who used to collect Playboy magazines and defended it openly. I asked him why do you keep these? He answered that, Playboy published some quality news analysis and interviews beside the photos. He supported his stand by sharing many important interviews (For example Jimmy Carter's) and articles. Apparently he was right and I agreed with him.

There were room full of men and I asked all of them did anyone buy Playboy for articles? No one answered. Then I asked how about photos? Everyone laughed out loud.

That is the point. In theory, you are right. But in "Real life" this type of protest ( Unless you are from Finland, Sweden, Norway etc where nudity is more accepted by society) are a sad imitation of the west bordering "Stupidity". For eastern communities this is NOT the right way to protest even if they were Hindu women.

How Gandhiji protested was the right way for India. Had he done in Kansas (Midwest, USA), he would have had a hole in his skull long time ago. So you have to be in touch with sensibilities of "Your people".

This "Protest" may look "Revolutionary" to some of us but to majority of the people, it is not only unacceptable but disrespectful (or culture, tradition and Yes religion).

As I said earlier, the protest only proved there are good number of "Shit heads" among educated women. These women are out of touch with common people (They profess to fight for!) and only works for people who are pulling the strings (Most of the time men!) behind our backs.

I cannot imagine Egyptian or Iranian people are respecting women more because of these "Shit heads". Sorry to see we lost capacity to protest in our own way. Sad imitations are just plain SAD......

Shalom!


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Sent: Sat, Mar 10, 2012 11:28 pm
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It may sound odd, but I am actually amazed by the revolutionary idea of protest. Think about some one who refuses to accept food as a protest against the fact that  she has been denied food repeatedly before. 
Man loves to see and use nude women in his privacy. He will do that with his power and money. The same man will advocate for complete covering of the body of a woman in public life! He will even severely punish her if she does not cover herself completely. The revolutionary protest is a revolt against such a hypocrisy. Obviously it is symbolic. The message is: hey greedy man, see with your greedy eyes what you want to see. Hopefully this will vehemently shake his conscience. Again this is absolutely symbolic. Protests have been made by those rebel women who have shouldered all the burden of protest and in whom the anger has reached the point to take off all the clothes. 
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On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:35 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

Muslim patriarchy is now resorting to overt forms of public violence with a clear objective to PUNISH any kind of revolt against oppression of women. Look what is happening in Bangladesh!


>>>>>>>>>> It is your God given right to support whomever you like.

For your information Bangladesh is an unique country where women are now in very powerful political position. Where both head of main opposition political party and head of current government are women (They don't get along very well but that's another post!). We have few powerful ministries under women as well.

They had this unique opportunity for over 20 years. Don't think you can objectively blame men of this country (At least they elected them!) to some extent. Don't think other nations can match this record. If those leaders don't make women's issue a priority, one cannot blame men alone. Like other parts of the world criminal men are criminals and I have no intention to take their sides. But majority of men in our country did some of their duties by electing women in this "Muslim majority" country of ours.

With power comes responsibility and it is high time women take at least SOME of the blame of our situation.

I guess printing nude photos (To protest or support stereotype?) only proves there are large number of shit heads among women as well (Used to think there are more shit heads among men than women). I stand corrected.

Thanks for sharing.

Shalom!


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Subject: [mukto-mona] FW: Nude Photo Revolutionary Calendar to mark Int'l Women's Day

 
          I do support this aspect of the 'scream' of Muslim women as a protest that comes with an underlying pain and suffering of injustice without an end in sight. Muslim patriarchy is now resorting to overt forms of public violence with a clear objective to PUNISH any kind of revolt against oppression of women. Look what is happening in Bangladesh!
 
                Farida Majid
 
The calendar is the idea of campaigner Maryam Namazie to support Aliaa Magda Elmahdy and join her 'screams against a society of violence, racism, sexism, sexual harassment and hypocrisy'.
 
Namazie says: 'What with Islamism and the religious right being obsessed with women's bodies and demanding that we be veiled, bound, and gagged, nudity breaks taboos and is an important form of resistance.'

 

To: farida_majid@hotmail.com
Subject: Nude Photo Revolutionary Calendar to mark Int'l Women's Day
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:08:15 -0500
From: maryamnamazie@gmail.com

On 8 March 2012 International Women's Day the Nude Photo Revolutionaries Calendar is being launched in homage to Egyptian atheist, student and blogger Aliaa Magda Elmahdy who posted a nude photo of herself, announcing the post on Twitter under the hashtag, #NudePhotoRevolutionary.
The calendar is the idea of campaigner Maryam Namazie to support Aliaa Magda Elmahdy and join her 'screams against a society of violence, racism, sexism, sexual harassment and hypocrisy'.
Namazie says: 'What with Islamism and the religious right being obsessed with women's bodies and demanding that we be veiled, bound, and gagged, nudity breaks taboos and is an important form of resistance.'
The calendar is designed by SlutWalk Co-founder Toronto, Sonya JF Barnett who says: 'I felt that women needed to stand in solidarity with Aliaa. It takes a lot of guts to do what she did, and the backlash is always expected and can quite hurtful. She needed to know that there are others like her, willing to push the envelope to express outrage.'
Others who join the 'scream' include mother and daughter Anne Baker and Poppy Wilson St James, teacher Luisa Batista, We are Atheism Founder Amanda Brown, atheist bloggers Greta Christina and Emily Dietle, FEMEN activist Alena Magelat, photographer Mallorie Nasrallah, actress Cleo Powell, freethinker Nina Sankari , writer Saskia Vogel, and Maja Wolna. The women are photographed by Julian Baker, Adam Brown, Grzegorz Brzezicki, Lucy Fox-Bohan, Agnieszka Hodowana, Ben Hopper, N. Maxwell Lander, Mallorie Nasrallah, Mark Neurdenburg, Vitaliy Pavlenko, and Michael Rosen.
To read the press release, download the calendar, and purchase one, visit: http://freethoughtblogs.com/maryamnamazie/nude-calendar/
The women in the calendar stand firm in solidarity with Aliaa Magda Elmahdy and the countless women across the world who are denied basic rights, freedoms and dignity.
Join the 'Scream' on Facebook and on Twitter under the hashtag #NudePhotoRevolutionary.
 
For more information, contact:
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[ALOCHONA] FW: Daily Star--A disturbing directive by the police Hqrs to arrest all local leaders of jamaate Islam, to requisition all their vehicles--please see the document in English below



 

 

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=225842

 

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A disturbing directive

 

The police headquarters have asked the district police authorities across the country to arrest all "organisers" of the BNP and Jamaat-e-Islami ahead of tomorrow's rally at Nayapaltan in the capital.

In a 19-point directive issued a couple of days ago, the superintendents of police of all the districts have also been asked to detain or stop Dhaka-bound leaders, workers and other people at thana level in their respective districts.

“The vehicles owned by pro-BNP and pro-Jamaat men have to be requisitioned in large numbers on grounds of government needs even if there are no such needs,” reads one of the directives, implementation of which began on Friday.

“The police headquarters will evaluate the success of the police superintendents of the districts,” warned another directive.

The police superintendents will also have to ensure that no government staff can join the Dhaka rally by taking leave.

Contacted yesterday, Inspector General of Police Hassan Mahmood Khandker, however, said he had no idea about any such directives.

“We are supposed to do everything to maintain law and order to ensure public security and safety, ” he said in reply to a query.

The Daily Star obtained from police sources a copy of the 19 directives given in Bangla. The English version of the directives is given below:

1. Instead of arresting common people en masse, attention should be on "qualitative arrest" even if the number of arrests is less. (The police headquarters will evaluate the success of the police superintendents of different districts).

2. In mufassil districts, people/leaders-workers have to be detained/stopped at the thanas from where they start for Dhaka.

3. Vehicles have to be searched, fined and detained by checkposts and mobile courts set up at thanas adjacent to the highways, after consultations with the district magistrates. Vehicles have to be searched to recover drugs, arms and explosives, if there are any. If the assistance of the executive magistrate or BRTA is not available, the police headquarters have to be informed about it.

4. Police vehicles have to be kept at safe distance, so that none can throw bricks/stones at those or damage those. The safety of officers and police personnel on duty has to be ensured. The personnel will wear riot gear while on duty.

5. All kinds of leave of police personnel in districts, barring exceptions, will have to be cancelled till March 12, 2012.

6. Steps have to be taken so that rowdy elements cannot vandalise vehicles, resort to arson or such types of crimes centering on the programmes. Such types of people have to be arrested.

7. Leading people in the slums will have to be influenced through discussion tactically so that slum people cannot go to Dhaka. The matter has to be kept in focus and, if necessary, arrests have to be made.

8. Shafi Huzur of Hathazri is scheduled to speak at a religious mahfil at Konapara Mannan High School ground, Demra, on March 11, 2012. Necessary steps have to be taken so that he does not attend the mahfil. If he cannot be prevented at all, the matter has to be communicated to SB, Dhaka.

9. Plainclothes police personnel have to be deployed at Sundarban Courier, SA Paribahan, etc. It has to be observed what type of parcels arrive through these courier services, whether banners and leaflets come through these or whether anything suspicious is being despatched.

10. Higher government officials will refrain from granting leave to their subordinate officials and employees so that they cannot go to Dhaka b taking leave. SPs and DSPs will have to take note of this.

11. The vehicles owned by persons supporting BNP and the Jamaat have to be requisitioned in large numbers (showing grounds of government requirements even if the case is not so) so that those cannot be used for carrying workers and leaders to Dhaka. Such vehicles have to be checked and cases filed, if needed.

12. It has to ensured that trucks do not carry people to Dhaka. Trucks are for carrying goods, not for carrying people.

13. Dhaka-bound microbuses have to be checked thoroughly. The passengers have to be checked and interrogated thoroughly.

14. Dhaka-bound trains have to be searched with the help of Railway Police. Suspects have to be arrested.

15. Suspicious institutions and organisations like madrasas, Islamic NGOs, Islamic clinics and messes run by the Shibir have to be searched. If any suspect is found, he has to be arrested on the spot.

16. Organisers from BNP/Jamaat and their associates or front organisations have to be arrested first.

17. Some people may try to worsen law and order by demonstrating reaction or resorting to ransacking in the aftermath of any incident taking place in Dhaka. Pre-emptive measures have to be taken so that such incidents cannot take place. Suspects have to be arrested.

18. Ambulances and fire services have to be kept ready by sending them letters beforehand so that their immediate cooperation is available in case of any emergency.

19. Attention has to be given so that local madrasas, schools and colleges remain open, and teachers and students attend classes. If necessary, it has to be ensured through discussions with the headmasters and principals of these institutions.

 



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Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh



Narrated 'Aisha: The wives of the Prophet used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqia at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. 'Umar used to say to the Prophet "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's Apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam'a the wife of the Prophet went out at 'Isha' time and she was a tall lady. 'Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes).

Sahih Bukhari 1:4:148

The quotation above is one of the versions of the story.


2012/3/10 Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
 

I read somewhere (maybe K, Armstrong) that veil was a sign of aristocracy and that's why prophet's wives and other women had to wear it. I believe every sura has to be analyzed in the light of the given context. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 


The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh). 

>>>>>>> You are wrong AGAIN! Get a grip on yourself.....


"O; Prophet (Muhammad)! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside)........

[ Source: Al Qur'an 33:59 ]



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The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh).  Across the history of Islam, the use of burkha or other versions of purdah by Muslim women was never universal.

2012/3/8 Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>
 
What is going on in Bangladesh one after another?
 
 

Wed 7 Mar 2012 10:30 PM BdST

rtnnনীলফামারী, ৭ মার্চ (আরটিএনএন ডটনেট)-- সৈয়দপুরে লায়ন্স স্কুল অ্যান্ড কলেজে বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরিধান নিষিদ্ধ করা হয়েছে। ড্রেসকোড পালনের অজুহাতে এ মৌখিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা জারি করায় ছাত্রী ও অভিভাবকদের মধ্যে তীব্র ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়েছে।


এ অবস্থায় বিপাকে পড়েছে পর্দা পালনে আগ্রহী শিক্ষার্থীরা। অভিভাবকার প্রতিবাদে সোচ্চার হলেও স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় দিন দিন ক্ষোভ দানা বাঁধছে।

জানা গেছে, গত ২৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি ওই বিদ্যালয়ে অ্যাসেম্বিলি চলাকালে কর্তৃপক্ষ উপস্থিত শিক্ষার্থী ও শিক্ষকদের মৌখিকভাবে জানিয়ে দেয় যে, আজ থেকে স্কুলে আসতে হলে বোরকা বা স্কার্ফ পরা চলবে না। এরপরও কেউ তা পরে তাকে ট্রান্সফার সার্টিফিকেট (টিসি) নিয়ে অন্যত্র চলে যাওয়ার পরামর্শ দেয়া হয়।

পরদিন কিছু শিক্ষার্থী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে স্কুলে গেলে তাদের বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ ক্লাসে গিয়ে খুলে ফেলার নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়। কিন্তু অনেকে না খোলার কারণে তাদেরকে ক্লাসে অপমান করা হয় এবং সিন্ধান্ত অনুসরণে কঠোরভাবে পুনরায় নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।

এরপরও গত শনিবার কোনো কোনো ছাত্রী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে গেলে তাদের অ্যাসেম্বিলির সময় সবার সামনে তা খুলতে বাধ্য করা হয়। এর পর বিষয়টি ছাত্রীদের মাধ্যমে অভিভাবকসহ সৈয়দপুরের সচেতন মহলে জানাজানি হলে ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়।

স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় �=A




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RE: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh



          Veiling of women or 'purdah' system has always been associated with upper class from the beginning of civilization everywhere in the world. It is funny that the Islamists politics is claiming it to be a paradigmatic Islamic dress code.  Other than bland, mildly toned general advice to women on modesty, the Qur'an surprisingly says nothing about mandating hijab or niqab for women. That rogue, Abul Ala Moududi, the father of modern Islamic fundamentalism, was quite annoyed at the fact that the Qur'an does not mandate hijab. 
 
         It is said that the Bedouin society in Arabia, where Jews, Christians and Muslims, men and women, wore dresses covering their heads, they did not practice 'purdah' in the way we know it now, and that it was imported from the more cosmopolitan Sassanians as a status symbol for women by the fledgling Muslim community.
 
          Anyway, you can see it in the women of Bangali society of all religions -- lower class working women have more freedom of movement than the middle caste or class. In our warm and humid climate, an extra item of clothing is burdensome and uncomfortable, not always desirable by choice. 
 
[I have an article on the subject where I analyze the verses in the Qur'an pertaining to women and hijab, published in 2004 both in Dhaka and Pakistan, blogged in numerous sites and is archived in Islamic Research Foundation Information]
 
         Farida Majid
 

To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: subimal@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 22:40:52 -0500
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
I read somewhere (maybe K, Armstrong) that veil was a sign of aristocracy and that's why prophet's wives and other women had to wear it. I believe every sura has to be analyzed in the light of the given context. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:44 AM, qar <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

 



The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh). 

>>>>>>> You are wrong AGAIN! Get a grip on yourself.....


"O; Prophet (Muhammad)! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go outside)........

[ Source: Al Qur'an 33:59 ]



For basic info on this topic, click on the link below..

By: Prof. Maqsood Jafri


Shalom!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 6:10 am
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Burqa banning after RAJUK, now Syedpur's Lions school and college: Minority Islam in Muslim majority Bangladesh

 
The 'wahi' on the imposition of 'Burkha' came to Umar (RA), not to the prophet (pbuh).  Across the history of Islam, the use of burkha or other versions of purdah by Muslim women was never universal.

2012/3/8 Nayan Khan <udarakash08@yahoo.com>
 
What is going on in Bangladesh one after another?
 
 

Wed 7 Mar 2012 10:30 PM BdST

rtnnনীলফামারী, ৭ মার্চ (আরটিএনএন ডটনেট)-- সৈয়দপুরে লায়ন্স স্কুল অ্যান্ড কলেজে বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরিধান নিষিদ্ধ করা হয়েছে। ড্রেসকোড পালনের অজুহাতে এ মৌখিক নিষেধাজ্ঞা জারি করায় ছাত্রী ও অভিভাবকদের মধ্যে তীব্র ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়েছে।

এ অবস্থায় বিপাকে পড়েছে পর্দা পালনে আগ্রহী শিক্ষার্থীরা। অভিভাবকার প্রতিবাদে সোচ্চার হলেও স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় দিন দিন ক্ষোভ দানা বাঁধছে।

জানা গেছে, গত ২৯ ফেব্রুয়ারি ওই বিদ্যালয়ে অ্যাসেম্বিলি চলাকালে কর্তৃপক্ষ উপস্থিত শিক্ষার্থী ও শিক্ষকদের মৌখিকভাবে জানিয়ে দেয় যে, আজ থেকে স্কুলে আসতে হলে বোরকা বা স্কার্ফ পরা চলবে না। এরপরও কেউ তা পরে তাকে ট্রান্সফার সার্টিফিকেট (টিসি) নিয়ে অন্যত্র চলে যাওয়ার পরামর্শ দেয়া হয়।

পরদিন কিছু শিক্ষার্থী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে স্কুলে গেলে তাদের বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ ক্লাসে গিয়ে খুলে ফেলার নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়। কিন্তু অনেকে না খোলার কারণে তাদেরকে ক্লাসে অপমান করা হয় এবং সিন্ধান্ত অনুসরণে কঠোরভাবে পুনরায় নির্দেশ দেয়া হয়।

এরপরও গত শনিবার কোনো কোনো ছাত্রী বোরকা ও স্কার্ফ পরে গেলে তাদের অ্যাসেম্বিলির সময় সবার সামনে তা খুলতে বাধ্য করা হয়। এর পর বিষয়টি ছাত্রীদের মাধ্যমে অভিভাবকসহ সৈয়দপুরের সচেতন মহলে জানাজানি হলে ক্ষোভের সৃষ্টি হয়।

স্কুল কর্তৃপক্ষ তাদের সিদ্ধান্তে অনড় থাকায় �=A



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[ALOCHONA] The Violence of Andrew Breitbart -- the American Abid Bahar



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Dr. Cynthia Boaz is trying to make an important point here that is easy to miss if you're not a deeply engaged activist yourself. Having just sustained a vicious attack by a Breitbart-type character in another political forum, I know exactly why Boaz feels the need for a pause and self-rumination.
 
Now, my threshold of tolerance for lies, hypcrisy, religious pretensions, outrageous injustice, etc. is not very high. With my only resource - language - I can hone a sharp spear of an argument or blunt cudgels of funny nicknames for my opponents. They have won me some 'victories', but sometimes they helped empower my infuriated enemies.
 
Raising the level of discourse? That's the last thing on my opponents' mind. They want to drag me down to their's. I resist. They think they've won the day. Others around are impressed by their victory.
 
So, how do you battle the outright liars, bigots, persons of indecent taste, vicious character assassinators, open supporters of genocides and political murders, racists, sexists and sadists?
 
                 Farida Majid
 

The Violence of Andrew Breitbart

by: Dr. Cynthia Boaz, Waging Nonviolence | Op-Ed
 

Andrew Breitbart. (Photo: Gage Skidmore / Flickr)

Much of my work in nonviolence and nonviolent action revolves around the assumption that the ends never justify the means, and that the way you fight a battle has everything to do with the ultimate result. "Victories" won through violence—whether literal or verbal—are dubious at best, and disastrous at worst. This is because they do nothing to eliminate the underlying cause of the grievance being addressed, and only pile on new hatreds. They expand the divisions between people, rather than close them. This is why Gandhi said that "a victory won through violence is tantamount to defeat—for it is momentary."

 

What does this have to do with the recent sudden death of BigGovernment.com's scorch-and-burn blogger Andrew Breitbart? Everything.

 

Breitbart made his living by seeking to destroy the lives of other human beings whom he had identified as "traitorous" or "dangerous." He would be the first to proudly own that. He seemed fine with the dubious morality of his chosen vocation because he clearly felt completely righteous about it. If someone (on the political left of him) said or did something that had the slightest hint of questionable ethics, Breitbart was right there, putting the person under the world's largest magnifying glass, using character assassination and guilt-by-association to link his target to every political crime and criminal of the past half century, and beseeching Americans to be vigilant in holding said person "accountable" lest they take down America and our way of life. But the irony is that it was Breitbart and those who mimic his ethically boundary-free approach to political conflict that are the real threats to (what I hope are still) American concepts like dignity, decency and basic civility.

 

Although Breitbart took several swipes at me personally, calling me a "moron" and "libtard," amongst other things, and also viciously and publicly tried to derail the career of a dear personal friend who is one of the most deeply compassionate people I have ever known, my distaste for Breitbart was much more general. I know it violates some conventions (perhaps even in my own field of nonviolence) to say this out loud, but I cannot honestly find anything about Breitbart's public work that made the world a better place. That sad realization has given me serious pause to think about my own legacy and how I engage those with whom I have serious disagreements. In my work on civil resistance, I consistently remind nonviolent actors not to use any tactic or approach that they would not have used against them.

Can I honestly say I have applied that same logic in my own personal dealings? I'm not sure. If I'm being totally truthful, then probably not. That scares me. I don't want to someday go out like Breitbart, with a dubious legacy that said yes, I had an impact, but at the expense of my own self-respect and perhaps at the expense of human dignity itself.

 

So perhaps we can make lemonade out of the many lemons Andrew Breitbart left lying around. Maybe there is an important lesson here about raising the level of discourse. About treating people with basic dignity. About civility and its relationship to a healthy society. About entering into a social contract whereby we—specifically those of us engaged in political conflict—agree not to seek the destruction of the life of a human being with whom we have even serious disagreements. Especially if we have serious disagreements.

 

I extend my sincere condolences to the family of Andrew Breitbart, and especially to his children, and I hope my words don't add to their suffering in any way. That is not my intent. I respect the fact that if nothing else, Breitbart lived his work out loud, and I have to believe that he would respect an honest remembrance in kind. But Breitbart's death is also forcing me to remember that our time on this planet is short and that we ought to be pretty careful about how we choose use it, lest we risk being remembered in a way that does not do justice to the better angels of our natures. For that reminder and to the challenge it presents me personally, I extend my gratitude to the late Andrew Breitbart. And I will try to do better.



Dr. Cynthia Boaz
Dr. Cynthia Boaz is assistant professor of political science at Sonoma State University, where her areas of expertise include quality of democracy, nonviolent struggle, civil resistance and political communication and media. She is also an affiliated scholar at the UNESCO Chair of Philosophy for Peace International Master in Peace, Conflict, and Development Studies at Universitat Jaume I in Castellon, Spain. Additionally, she is an analyst and consultant on nonviolent action, with special emphasis on the Iran and Burma cases. She is vice president of the Metta Center for Nonviolence and on the board of Project Censored and the Media Freedom Foundation. Dr. Boaz is also a contributing writer and adviser to Truthout.org and associate editor of Peace and Change Journal.


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