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[mukto-mona] Please circulate the message: 'Convention Against Regional Chauvinism' on 22nd Nov at Vasai [1 Attachment]

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> From: K K Prakasan <kkprakasan@yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:35 PM
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> In this convention we
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> firmly opposed to the politics of regional chauvinism.
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> Our motivation to
> organise this session is explained briefly in the Marathi
> appeal from our State Secretary Shailendra Kamble which is
> attached as  a pdf file to this e-mail. Please go through
> the document which is very short. 
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> Please circulate the
> message of this convention in our city's progressive
> circles and impress upon progressive Marathi
> writers/academicians/journalists to
> participate.
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> Best
> Regards
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> For Democratic Youth
> Federation of
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> K.K. Prakasan (Cell no.
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[mukto-mona] UP state Peace Convention

UP State Peace Convention


26th November 2009


Center for Harmony and Peace (Varanasi) and All India Secular Forum are organizing a one day convention to discuss the communal situation in UP and the plan for strategies to strengthen the secular, democratic and plural values in the state. It will be addressed by the leading activists working for promotion of democratic values and will discuss the political, educational and cultural steps needed to combat communalism.

Venue: Maitridham Ashram, Anjali Hall, Opposite- Jeevan Deep public school, Bara Lalpur, Chandmari, off Bhojubir Chandmari Road, Varanasi.


Time: 9.30 to 5.30


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[ALOCHONA] Iqbal's Views on Financial Crunch and Afghanistan Crisis



FACTS:
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1. Opposing Pakistan Movement, Molana MouDooDi had written, "Such a Pakistan would be a place where Donkeys, Horses, Monkeys, Bulls and Goats all would be equal and it would be for fools".
2. Iqbal was dead more than 10 years before MauDooDi moved to Pakistan.
3. Indian Government had taken over the Policy of granting Money to run JUH of British India's Govt. MauDooDi had wanted same kind of grant for tiny little JmaaT a Islami. When that request was refused he had moved to Pakistan and applied for similar grant from USA's CIA. CIA had approved grant for him immediately.
4. Mufti Mehamood and some others, who had started JUI in Pakistan were from JUH.
5. Only one famous or big Mollaa had supported Pakistan Movement and his name was Molana Shabbir Ahmed Osmani. (Mollaas do not count Molana HasraT Mohani a Molaana otherwise he was a bigger Mollaa than Osmani, who had supported).
.
Please remember, what I wrote in # 4 below, this JehaaDi Paki has not argued about proving that I was right about Islamic Monitory System & Talibani Afghanistan.  

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This Jew andrewl aka turkman is a liar. Syed Maududi never opposed Pakistan. He was invited by Allamah Iqbal, prior to the establishment of Pakistan to Panjab to do a poineering research for and the codification of Islamic law for the new nation. Iqbal was very pleased with him, because he had written a book " AL-JIHAD FILISLAM " at the young age of 24. Islahi is dead and left no legacy and the Jamiatul Ulema was based in Deoband and did not migrate to Pakistan. It was only JUI of Frontier Province who had opposed Pakistan but prostrated in the right direction, by saying they had opposed it but once it has been established, it was like a Masjid and should be supported and protected.

So where is the opposition of Ulemaa? O lying lizard !

--- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "ANDREWL" <turkman@... > wrote:
>
> What else can anyone expect from a Paki Mollaa like Kaleem?
> .
> FACTS:
> .
> 1. MoDooDi, Molana Islahi and other Molanaas of JUH (JmiyaTay Olmaa a HinD, the mother of JUIs of present Pakistan) like Mufti Mehmood all had declared Iqbal a 'Kafir' they had moved to West Pakistan after 1947 though most of his Mollaa criticis had stayed in India.
> .
> 2. Iqbal had written in a letter to one of his friends in 1938 that he was not for Pakistan. This letter's copy was published in Pakistan largest Urdu Newspaper more than a Decade ago.
> .
> 3. Iqbal had never explained what was Islamic Economical System nor had there been any explained in any books of Hadith or Qoraan.
> .
> 4. JehaaDi Kaleem's most aspired people, Taliban had an Economic System in Afghanistan in which Caliph Mollaa Omar used to write IOUs or Currency Notes on ordinary Paper, never had any yearly Budget, never knew total government employment, never knew government is not supposed to keep spending without collecting Taxes, ran country's Economy in to Gutters, made half a million of Afghans starve to death, made 4 million Afghans to flee the country, killed a lot of Businesses, caused a lot of Un-employment by dismissing all Female Government Workers and Teachers.
> .
> I don't think, when people learn these facts they would ever want Taliban or any crazy illiterate Nuts like them to run their country.
> .
> May Allah cure Brain Tumor of Kaleem and all Crazies like him ...!
> ------------ ---------
>
> --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "Kaleem" <javediqbalkaleem@ > wrote:
> >
> > The problem with Jews and their agents is that like women, they live in the past. I am talking about burning current issues and he is talking about 80 year old events. If any aalim had criticized Iqbal, he stayed back in India and did not migrate to Pakistan. Iqbal pointed out that Islam has its own economic system and Pakistan would become a model state for rest of the world to follow. It was due only to Judo-Christian conspiracy that British trained bureaucrats ruled Pakistan so far. Now a true Islamic government is in the making and the world will soon see Islam in action, once we get rid of American occupation forces.
> >
> > M J Iqbal
> >
> > --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "ANDREWL" <turkman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you gone to the Graves of your Ancestor Mollaas, (who had declared Iqbal a 'Kafir') to seek permission for writing this?
> > > "Islam proscribes a Classless Society" ...?
> > > So now Islam is Socialism?
> > > Why don't you go back to your Rat Hole JehaaDi ...!
> > > ------------ -
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <javediqbalkaleem@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                                                                    
> > > >  
> > > >            Allamah (great scholar) Muhammad Iqbal was born on 9 November 1877 and took his last breath on April 30, 1938. He thus lived only in the first half of 20th centruy, but his poetry and sermons are as relevant today as these were 70~80 years ago. He was a philosopher, a poet par excellence, a scholar of Quran, perhaps the most noted of his age,  and he studied this subject so devotedly that he became a visionary, a continuity of Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah, the famous saint of 18th century. Shah Wali Ullah  introduced the social system of the nations and identified classes within society almost 100 years before Karl Marx. Iqbal studied Quran and declared that the purpose of Shariat, (Islamic Holy Law) is to release man from subjugation of man. He said:
> > > >  
> > > >                       ' kas na gardad dar jahan muhtaje  kas
> > > >                         Nukta sharaa  mubeen ein ast o bas '
> > > >  
> > > >           That is the main object of descent of Shariat is that no human remains dependent on other for his livelihood.  Islam prescribes a classless society and strictly prohibits interest, so much so that Allah  SWT has declared war on those elements who charge interest to His creation.  
> > > >  
> > > >             Iqbal says that the banks have deprived the humanity from the light it received  as a creation of Almighty Allah.
> > > >  
> > > >                         " Ein bunook ein fikre chaalake yahood
> > > >                           Noore Haq az seena-e aadam rabood                            
> > > >  
> > > >               That is " These banks have made life so miserable for the common man that he has lost  the light  inherited as a creation of Almighty Allah". Iqbal took the subject so seriously that he studied modern economics as well and wrote a book  " Ilmul Iqtesad " ( The science of economics) on it in  1908.Since his prophesies were to come true, like the 5 prophesies I showed in a previous write up, the trouble and turmoil brought by financial meltdown was foreseen  by Iqbal and an alternative course of action provided.
> > > >  
> > > >                Similarly Iqbal attached great importance to Afghanistan. When Afghan King came to the sub-continent on a visit, Iqbal offered all the money he saved  to him for strengthening his army. He even went to Afghanistan along with a religious leader, Syed Suleman Nadvi and offered useful advices to the king. He was aware of the importance of Afghanistan in the future
> > > >               
> > > >                               " If Asia was a body of water and clay,
> > > >                                 The Afghan nation would be the heart in that body,
> > > >                                  Its prosperity brings the prosperity of Asia,
> > > >                                  Its decay brings the decay of Asia. "
> > > >             Iqbal knew that the Afghans have to play a vital role in the end of time battles. Holy prophet of Islam has prophesied that an army of black flags will reach Jerusalem from Khorasan (present  day Afghanistan) which no power on earth will be able to stop. It is a pity that the country of Iqbal's dream has chosen to  stab the army of Islam in the back.
> > > >  
> > > >      
> > > >                                                                                             Muhammad Javed Iqbal.
> > > >
> > >
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[mukto-mona] Iqbal's Views on Financial Crunch and Afghanistan Crisis



FACTS:
.
1. Opposing Pakistan Movement, Molana MouDooDi had written, "Such a Pakistan would be a place where Donkeys, Horses, Monkeys, Bulls and Goats all would be equal and it would be for fools".
2. Iqbal was dead more than 10 years before MauDooDi moved to Pakistan.
3. Indian Government had taken over the Policy of granting Money to run JUH of British India's Govt. MauDooDi had wanted same kind of grant for tiny little JmaaT a Islami. When that request was refused he had moved to Pakistan and applied for similar grant from USA's CIA. CIA had approved grant for him immediately.
4. Mufti Mehamood and some others, who had started JUI in Pakistan were from JUH.
5. Only one famous or big Mollaa had supported Pakistan Movement and his name was Molana Shabbir Ahmed Osmani. (Mollaas do not count Molana HasraT Mohani a Molaana otherwise he was a bigger Mollaa than Osmani, who had supported).
.
Please remember, what I wrote in # 4 below, this JehaaDi Paki has not argued about proving that I was right about Islamic Monitory System & Talibani Afghanistan.  

:
 
This Jew andrewl aka turkman is a liar. Syed Maududi never opposed Pakistan. He was invited by Allamah Iqbal, prior to the establishment of Pakistan to Panjab to do a poineering research for and the codification of Islamic law for the new nation. Iqbal was very pleased with him, because he had written a book " AL-JIHAD FILISLAM " at the young age of 24. Islahi is dead and left no legacy and the Jamiatul Ulema was based in Deoband and did not migrate to Pakistan. It was only JUI of Frontier Province who had opposed Pakistan but prostrated in the right direction, by saying they had opposed it but once it has been established, it was like a Masjid and should be supported and protected.

So where is the opposition of Ulemaa? O lying lizard !

--- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "ANDREWL" <turkman@... > wrote:
>
> What else can anyone expect from a Paki Mollaa like Kaleem?
> .
> FACTS:
> .
> 1. MoDooDi, Molana Islahi and other Molanaas of JUH (JmiyaTay Olmaa a HinD, the mother of JUIs of present Pakistan) like Mufti Mehmood all had declared Iqbal a 'Kafir' they had moved to West Pakistan after 1947 though most of his Mollaa criticis had stayed in India.
> .
> 2. Iqbal had written in a letter to one of his friends in 1938 that he was not for Pakistan. This letter's copy was published in Pakistan largest Urdu Newspaper more than a Decade ago.
> .
> 3. Iqbal had never explained what was Islamic Economical System nor had there been any explained in any books of Hadith or Qoraan.
> .
> 4. JehaaDi Kaleem's most aspired people, Taliban had an Economic System in Afghanistan in which Caliph Mollaa Omar used to write IOUs or Currency Notes on ordinary Paper, never had any yearly Budget, never knew total government employment, never knew government is not supposed to keep spending without collecting Taxes, ran country's Economy in to Gutters, made half a million of Afghans starve to death, made 4 million Afghans to flee the country, killed a lot of Businesses, caused a lot of Un-employment by dismissing all Female Government Workers and Teachers.
> .
> I don't think, when people learn these facts they would ever want Taliban or any crazy illiterate Nuts like them to run their country.
> .
> May Allah cure Brain Tumor of Kaleem and all Crazies like him ...!
> ------------ ---------
>
> --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "Kaleem" <javediqbalkaleem@ > wrote:
> >
> > The problem with Jews and their agents is that like women, they live in the past. I am talking about burning current issues and he is talking about 80 year old events. If any aalim had criticized Iqbal, he stayed back in India and did not migrate to Pakistan. Iqbal pointed out that Islam has its own economic system and Pakistan would become a model state for rest of the world to follow. It was due only to Judo-Christian conspiracy that British trained bureaucrats ruled Pakistan so far. Now a true Islamic government is in the making and the world will soon see Islam in action, once we get rid of American occupation forces.
> >
> > M J Iqbal
> >
> > --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "ANDREWL" <turkman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you gone to the Graves of your Ancestor Mollaas, (who had declared Iqbal a 'Kafir') to seek permission for writing this?
> > > "Islam proscribes a Classless Society" ...?
> > > So now Islam is Socialism?
> > > Why don't you go back to your Rat Hole JehaaDi ...!
> > > ------------ -
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <javediqbalkaleem@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                                                                    
> > > >  
> > > >            Allamah (great scholar) Muhammad Iqbal was born on 9 November 1877 and took his last breath on April 30, 1938. He thus lived only in the first half of 20th centruy, but his poetry and sermons are as relevant today as these were 70~80 years ago. He was a philosopher, a poet par excellence, a scholar of Quran, perhaps the most noted of his age,  and he studied this subject so devotedly that he became a visionary, a continuity of Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah, the famous saint of 18th century. Shah Wali Ullah  introduced the social system of the nations and identified classes within society almost 100 years before Karl Marx. Iqbal studied Quran and declared that the purpose of Shariat, (Islamic Holy Law) is to release man from subjugation of man. He said:
> > > >  
> > > >                       ' kas na gardad dar jahan muhtaje  kas
> > > >                         Nukta sharaa  mubeen ein ast o bas '
> > > >  
> > > >           That is the main object of descent of Shariat is that no human remains dependent on other for his livelihood.  Islam prescribes a classless society and strictly prohibits interest, so much so that Allah  SWT has declared war on those elements who charge interest to His creation.  
> > > >  
> > > >             Iqbal says that the banks have deprived the humanity from the light it received  as a creation of Almighty Allah.
> > > >  
> > > >                         " Ein bunook ein fikre chaalake yahood
> > > >                           Noore Haq az seena-e aadam rabood                            
> > > >  
> > > >               That is " These banks have made life so miserable for the common man that he has lost  the light  inherited as a creation of Almighty Allah". Iqbal took the subject so seriously that he studied modern economics as well and wrote a book  " Ilmul Iqtesad " ( The science of economics) on it in  1908.Since his prophesies were to come true, like the 5 prophesies I showed in a previous write up, the trouble and turmoil brought by financial meltdown was foreseen  by Iqbal and an alternative course of action provided.
> > > >  
> > > >                Similarly Iqbal attached great importance to Afghanistan. When Afghan King came to the sub-continent on a visit, Iqbal offered all the money he saved  to him for strengthening his army. He even went to Afghanistan along with a religious leader, Syed Suleman Nadvi and offered useful advices to the king. He was aware of the importance of Afghanistan in the future
> > > >               
> > > >                               " If Asia was a body of water and clay,
> > > >                                 The Afghan nation would be the heart in that body,
> > > >                                  Its prosperity brings the prosperity of Asia,
> > > >                                  Its decay brings the decay of Asia. "
> > > >             Iqbal knew that the Afghans have to play a vital role in the end of time battles. Holy prophet of Islam has prophesied that an army of black flags will reach Jerusalem from Khorasan (present  day Afghanistan) which no power on earth will be able to stop. It is a pity that the country of Iqbal's dream has chosen to  stab the army of Islam in the back.
> > > >  
> > > >      
> > > >                                                                                             Muhammad Javed Iqbal.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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[mukto-mona] Fw: No love jihad in the campus ...



As received

 
With Regards

Abi
 

"At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst"

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SFI denies existence of `love jihad' in campuses
Kochi, Thursday, November 12, 2009: The student federation of India had ruled out the existence of love jihad or Romeo jihad in college campuses in Kerala.
Sangh Parivar had been propagating rumors of love jihad and Romeo jihad. Campus front haven't known any such conversions in colleges, SFI leadership said.
http://www.asianeti ndia.com/ news/love- jihad-controvers y-damaging- secularism- ravi_96047. html

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Love jihad controversy damaging secularism: Ravi  



Love jihad controversy damaging secularism: Ravi

Alappuzha, Sunday, November 01, 2009: Union Minister of overseas affairs Vayalar Ravi said that in the name of love jihad people in the state were fighting with their own shadows.

The love jihad controversy can only destroy the religious harmony in Kerala, Vayalar Ravi added.



http://www.asianeti ndia.com/ news/love- jihad-controvers y-damaging- secularism- ravi_96047. html


DGP's report snubs existence of `Love Jihad'  

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Kochi, Wednesday, November 11, 2009: Director General of Police Jacob Punnose today handed over his investigation report on `Love Jihad' in Court today. The report rules out the existence of a community that has been engaged in forceful religious conversion.

After taking note of alarming statistics regarding missing girls across the state, the High Court directed the Director General of Police (DGP) to conduct a thorough investigation into the existence of `love jihad' movement, the DGP in his interim report

In his interim report, the DGP had stated that there was no evidence of any organisation called `Love Jihad' or `Romeo Jihad' undertaking forced conversions. However, he also said that there were some unconfirmed reports that such activities were going on in the state, it was this confusing remark that prompted Justice Sankaran to direct the DGP to produce by November 11 documents or reports on the basis of which he had prepared the report.http://www.asianeti ndia.com/ news/dgps- report-snubs- existence- love-jihad_ 99542.html





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[mukto-mona] FW: Fort Hood victims: Obama Promises Justice



 

 

 


Fort Hood victims: Obama Promises Justice
 

International press has reported that the US president, Barack Obama, vowed justice Tuesday as he eulogised the dead of the Fort Hood shootings and warned that even twisted faith could not explain such ‘craven’ mass murder. As intrigue deepened around Major Nidal Hasan, the army psychiatrist and practicing Muslim accused of killing 13 people in last week’s shooting spree, Obama lauded each victim and said their legacy was America’s future freedom. ‘It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy,’ Obama told 15,000 sometimes tearful mourners under the bright Texan sky.
   ‘But this much we do know: no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts.
   ‘No just and loving God looks upon them with favour. And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice, in this world, and the next.’ Obama built his address around the terrible irony that the victims could not ‘escape the horrors of war’ even though they died at home, not on the battlefields where many of them had served. He said Thursday’s rampage, which also wounded 42 people, came at a trying time for
America, as it struggles through wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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      Intrigue over the injured suspect, Major Nidal Hasan, mounted after the Federal Bureau of Investigation revealed he had contacts with a firebrand Islamic cleric in Yemen and it emerged he had voiced doubts over the role of US Muslim soldiers.
   Defence and law enforcement officials meanwhile said Hasan would likely face a court martial for murder in a military court. The FBI said Hasan, a devout Muslim, came to its attention in 2008 after he communicated with the target of a counter-terrorism investigation. ‘The joint terrorism task force concluded that Major Hasan was not involved in terrorist activities or terrorist planning,’ the FBI said, adding that ‘the investigation to date indicates that the alleged gunman acted alone and was not part of a broader terrorist plot. The Washington Post  Post  said Hasan had shocked fellow army medics more than a year ago by saying Muslim soldiers should be allowed release as conscientious objectors rather than being ordered to go to war against fellow Muslims.  

We are deeply shocked at tis most tragic event.Innocent lives have been lost in the hand of a doctor.Muslim scholars and leadership around the world   have condemned this sad incident  .In the US and some other places some quarters  have linked the Muslim identity with his crime. This is just preposterous. As  President Obama has said, no religion teaches such heinous activities. Even the most conservative Muslim  jurist has not condoned such killing of the innocents in their juristic writings.They have differed on some  other issues but not on this killing of innocents.As Muslims are a small minority in the US , the questions will be more, such accusation or such liking the religious identity of the offender  is not normally made against the members of the majority. It is a trying time for the US, US army and the Muslims there .US government  may  consider one thing, exempting conscientious objectors from military services in some particular countries. 


 

 



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[ALOCHONA] Re: [WideMinds] The Daily star: Best Newspaper from Bangladesh. Fair and Balanced, But how?



Dear Amin Bhai
 
It is needless to say the these to slameless prostitues are worse than whore roving in around Cresent Lake Chattar opposite the Shangsad. They are owned by HINDU STAAN,controlled by HINDU STAAN,screwed by HINDU STAAN so have other alternative but be yes man to Dadas of the opar.
These are the quislings are very dangerous for sfate,security,entity n sovereignty of Bangladesh. So ave hate these bastard crimnials who are connivers to destroy our image as a people of a good n peaceful nation. They must hooted out n people should spit on them as the people did on the Janwar GUU Azam/Nizami including beai Moshara n other Razakars.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Md. Aminul Islam <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear all,
the Daily Star demand that they are"Best Newspaper from Bangladesh. Fair and Balanced"
The concious people of Bsngladesh know very well that how far it is 'Fair and Balanced"
The pro indians , imperilist, ngo n international organisations may regard it as "Best Newspaper from Bangladesh." for their own interest.But the patriotic  people of bangladesh know  how they worked for an emmergency rule and unconstitutional rule in Bangladesh.We watched 
 the blatant shamelessness of paolo n d star during the  unconstitutional rule of Moin fokh.the two editor used to
sit beside Moin during their rule . We did not forget their unfairdemand "amrai jorury obostha enechi"
 




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[mukto-mona] RE: [khabor.com] Re: Iqbal's Views on Financial Crunch and Afghanistan Crisis




 Writes our one-eyed slave of Allah,  Mohammed Javed Iqbal from Pakistan, "Iqbal knew that the Afghans have to play a vital role in the end of time battles. Holy prophet of Islam has prophesied that an army of black flags will reach Jerusalem from Khorasan (present  day Afghanistan) which no power on earth will be able to stop. It is a pity that the country of Iqbal's dream has chosen to stab the army of Islam in the back". Jerusalem is very very far away, why don't you use the army of black flags to conquer Kashmir, you mad Jihaadee??? Your hero Allma Iqbal writes, "You (Allah) have made them (The Muslims) indifferent to the riches of the world, by instilling your love divine into their hearts. Except for the love of Jihad and the joy of martyrdom, the kingdom of the earth holds no attraction for them. This is the magic of Your Love Divine. It is the last wish and the greatest desire of a true Muslim! The extinction of religious fervor combined with embracement of Freedom-- not only led to the termination of Muslim rule in Spain-- but also imperiled the very existence of the followers of Islam in that country-- till not one of them was left".  The message is very clear—Freedom is very dangerous--this world is for Kafirs. No need to use your head. Just read Quran, you will find all the answers here. You will find 'String Theory' here. You will find 'Periodic Table' here. You will find 'Hubble Constant' here. In short, you will find all the scientific theories here. Folks, these are the forces of Darkness that shut the door to Independent Reasoning and drew the line in the sands of 7th Century Arabia. Allah will definitely forgive those unfortunate folks who did not have the good fortune to attend Kindergarten or Scholastic, but He will never forgive the so called educated Kaleems of today. It never ceases to amaze me that in this enlightened-- most technologically advanced civilization-- we have Kaleems among us. How sad, how pathetic, how deplorable, how wretched, how vile and indeed how sickening—it makes one throw up. We are truly in a quagmire of tsunamical proportion. These forces of illogic, irrationality, unreason, and downright madness are polar opposites of the forces of logic, rationality, reason and mindfulness. Tagore warned—never surrender reason—Says he "Deliverance is not for me in renunciation. I feel the embrace of freedom in a thousand bonds of delight---no I shall never shut the doors of my Senses".  And Iqbals carry the day!

 
 
 
 
 
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To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
From: javediqbalkaleem@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:14:56 +0000
Subject: [khabor.com] Re: Iqbal's Views on Financial Crunch and Afghanistan Crisis

 
This Jew andrewl aka turkman is a liar. Syed Maududi never opposed Pakistan. He was invited by Allamah Iqbal, prior to the establishment of Pakistan to Panjab to do a poineering research for and the codification of Islamic law for the new nation. Iqbal was very pleased with him, because he had written a book " AL-JIHAD FILISLAM " at the young age of 24. Islahi is dead and left no legacy and the Jamiatul Ulema was based in Deoband and did not migrate to Pakistan. It was only JUI of Frontier Province who had opposed Pakistan but prostrated in the right direction, by saying they had opposed it but once it has been established, it was like a Masjid and should be supported and protected.

So where is the opposition of Ulemaa? O lying lizard !

--- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "ANDREWL" <turkman@...> wrote:
>
> What else can anyone expect from a Paki Mollaa like Kaleem?
> .
> FACTS:
> .
> 1. MoDooDi, Molana Islahi and other Molanaas of JUH (JmiyaTay Olmaa a HinD, the mother of JUIs of present Pakistan) like Mufti Mehmood all had declared Iqbal a 'Kafir' they had moved to West Pakistan after 1947 though most of his Mollaa criticis had stayed in India.
> .
> 2. Iqbal had written in a letter to one of his friends in 1938 that he was not for Pakistan. This letter's copy was published in Pakistan largest Urdu Newspaper more than a Decade ago.
> .
> 3. Iqbal had never explained what was Islamic Economical System nor had there been any explained in any books of Hadith or Qoraan.
> .
> 4. JehaaDi Kaleem's most aspired people, Taliban had an Economic System in Afghanistan in which Caliph Mollaa Omar used to write IOUs or Currency Notes on ordinary Paper, never had any yearly Budget, never knew total government employment, never knew government is not supposed to keep spending without collecting Taxes, ran country's Economy in to Gutters, made half a million of Afghans starve to death, made 4 million Afghans to flee the country, killed a lot of Businesses, caused a lot of Un-employment by dismissing all Female Government Workers and Teachers.
> .
> I don't think, when people learn these facts they would ever want Taliban or any crazy illiterate Nuts like them to run their country.
> .
> May Allah cure Brain Tumor of Kaleem and all Crazies like him ...!
> ---------------------
>
> --- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "Kaleem" <javediqbalkaleem@> wrote:
> >
> > The problem with Jews and their agents is that like women, they live in the past. I am talking about burning current issues and he is talking about 80 year old events. If any aalim had criticized Iqbal, he stayed back in India and did not migrate to Pakistan. Iqbal pointed out that Islam has its own economic system and Pakistan would become a model state for rest of the world to follow. It was due only to Judo-Christian conspiracy that British trained bureaucrats ruled Pakistan so far. Now a true Islamic government is in the making and the world will soon see Islam in action, once we get rid of American occupation forces.
> >
> > M J Iqbal
> >
> > --- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "ANDREWL" <turkman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you gone to the Graves of your Ancestor Mollaas, (who had declared Iqbal a 'Kafir') to seek permission for writing this?
> > > "Islam proscribes a Classless Society" ...?
> > > So now Islam is Socialism?
> > > Why don't you go back to your Rat Hole JehaaDi ...!
> > > -------------
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, Javed Iqbal Kaleem <javediqbalkaleem@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                                                                    
> > > >  
> > > >            Allamah (great scholar) Muhammad Iqbal was born on 9 November 1877 and took his last breath on April 30, 1938. He thus lived only in the first half of 20th centruy, but his poetry and sermons are as relevant today as these were 70~80 years ago. He was a philosopher, a poet par excellence, a scholar of Quran, perhaps the most noted of his age,  and he studied this subject so devotedly that he became a visionary, a continuity of Hazrat Shah Wali Ullah, the famous saint of 18th century. Shah Wali Ullah  introduced the social system of the nations and identified classes within society almost 100 years before Karl Marx. Iqbal studied Quran and declared that the purpose of Shariat, (Islamic Holy Law) is to release man from subjugation of man. He said:
> > > >  
> > > >                       ' kas na gardad dar jahan muhtaje kas
> > > >                         Nukta sharaa  mubeen ein ast o bas '
> > > >  
> > > >           That is the main object of descent of Shariat is that no human remains dependent on other for his livelihood.  Islam prescribes a classless society and strictly prohibits interest, so much so that Allah  SWT has declared war on those elements who charge interest to His creation.  
> > > >  
> > > >             Iqbal says that the banks have deprived the humanity from the light it received  as a creation of Almighty Allah.
> > > >  
> > > >                         " Ein bunook ein fikre chaalake yahood
> > > >                           Noore Haq az seena-e aadam rabood                            
> > > >  
> > > >               That is " These banks have made life so miserable for the common man that he has lost  the light  inherited as a creation of Almighty Allah". Iqbal took the subject so seriously that he studied modern economics as well and wrote a book  " Ilmul Iqtesad " ( The science of economics) on it in  1908.Since his prophesies were to come true, like the 5 prophesies I showed in a previous write up, the trouble and turmoil brought by financial meltdown was foreseen  by Iqbal and an alternative course of action provided.
> > > >  
> > > >                Similarly Iqbal attached great importance to Afghanistan. When Afghan King came to the sub-continent on a visit, Iqbal offered all the money he saved  to him for strengthening his army. He even went to Afghanistan along with a religious leader, Syed Suleman Nadvi and offered useful advices to the king. He was aware of the importance of Afghanistan in the future
> > > >               
> > > >                               " If Asia was a body of water and clay,
> > > >                                 The Afghan nation would be the heart in that body,
> > > >                                  Its prosperity brings the prosperity of Asia,
> > > >                                  Its decay brings the decay of Asia. "
> > > >             Iqbal knew that the Afghans have to play a vital role in the end of time battles. Holy prophet of Islam has prophesied that an army of black flags will reach Jerusalem from Khorasan (present  day Afghanistan) which no power on earth will be able to stop. It is a pity that the country of Iqbal's dream has chosen to  stab the army of Islam in the back.
> > > >  
> > > >      
> > > >                                                                                             Muhammad Javed Iqbal.
> > > >
> > >
> >
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