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Fri, 31 Oct, 2014

নিজামীর রায়: শেখ হাসিনার প্রশংসায় মাহফুজ আনাম

   

ঢাকা : গত বুধবার আন্তর্জাতিক অপরাধ ট্রাইব্যুনাল-১ জামায়াত নেতা মতিউর রহমান নিজামীর বিরুদ্ধে করা মানবতাবিরোধী অপরাধের মামলায় ফাঁসির রায় দিয়েছে। এ রায়ের প্রতিবাদে জামায়াতে ইসলামী সারাদেশে হরতাল ডাকলেও এতে সন্তোষ প্রকাশ করেছে স্বাধীনতা পক্ষের বিভিন্ন সংগঠন।


শুক্রবার বাংলাদেশের একটি ইংরেজি গণমাধ্যমে নিজামীর রায় নিয়ে মাহফুজ আনামের নিজের কলাম প্রকাশিত হয়েছে। এতে বলা হয়েছে, অনেক দেরি হলেও প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনা যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের বিচার করতে পেরেছে এ জন্যে তিনি প্রশংসার যোগ্য।

এতে আরও বলা হয়েছে, এটি প্রতিশোধ নয়, এটি কোনও রাজনৈতিক উদ্দেশ্যও নয়। এ রায়ে আসামির যথাযথ শাস্তি হয়েছে। এতে বিচার বিভাগের স্বাধীনতার প্রতিফলন ঘটেছে। এতে মানবাধিকারের প্রতি যথাযথ মূল্য প্রদর্শন করা হয়েছে।

মতিউর রহমান নিজামী ১৯৭১ সালে স্বাধীনতা যুদ্ধের বিপক্ষে কাজ করেছেন। সে সময় তার বয়স ছিল ২ বছর। এখন তার বয়স ৭১ বছর। সবরকম সংজ্ঞার দিক থেকে তখন তিনি একজন প্রাপ্ত বয়স্ক ব্যক্তি ছিলেন। তখন তিনি যে নৃশংশতম কাজ করেছিলেন তাতে সাধারণভাবেই তার এটিই প্রাপ্য ছিল।

১৯৭১ সালে বাংলাদেশের মানুষ স্বাধীনতাকেই চেয়েছিল এবং সেজন্যে মরণপণ লড়াই করেছিল। কিন্তু তিনি তাদের ইচ্ছার বিরুদ্ধে কাজ করেছিলেন। সেসময় স্বাধীনতাকামীদের বিরুদ্ধে তিনি ধর্ষণ, গণহত্যা ও নৃশংশ নির্যাতন চালিয়েছিলেন যাকে বর্তমানে মানবতাবিরোধী অপরাধ বলে উল্লেখ করা হয়।

এই লেখায় উল্লেখ করা হয়েছে, আমরা সাধারণত কারও মৃত্যুর রায়ে আনন্দ করি না। কিন্তু আমরা সে ব্যক্তির নৃশংশ অপরাধের কারণে এটি করতেই পারি। কারণ তিনি যে অপরাধ করেছেন পরবর্তী সময়ে এ ব্যাপারে কোনও অনুশোচনা করেননি।

এতে আরও বলা হয়েছে, যদিও আমাদের দেশ যুদ্ধাপরধীদের বিচারের বিষয় নিয়ে কিছু মহলের দ্বিধা রয়েছে তবুও সমগ্র বাঙালি জাতিই যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের বিচার চায়।

এই লেখায় বলা হয়েছে, বাংলাদেশ এখনও সব যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের বিচারের আওতায় আনতে পারেনি। তবে এতে এটি ভাবার কোনও সুযোগ নেই যে, এটি রাজনৈতিক উদ্দেশ্য প্রণোদিত।

তবে একজন যুদ্ধাপরাধীকে কি করে বেগম খালেদা জিয়া তার সরকারের মন্ত্রী বানিয়েছিলেন তা নিয়েও প্রশ্ন তোলা হয়েছে এই লেখাটিতে। এতে মুক্তিযুদ্ধের শহীদদের অপমান করা হয়েছে বলে ওই লেখায় উল্লেখ করা হয়েছে।


PrimeNewsBD
The Daily Star article:

Commentary by Mahfuz Anam

The meaning of Nizami's verdict

PM's steadfastness must be lauded



It is not revenge. It is not retribution. It is not settling of accounts. And politics, it is definitely not.  It is meting out justice. It is holding political leaders accountable for their action especially if they commit crimes against humanity. It is fulfilling an inner urge for justice and fair play. In the final analysis it is establishing the supremacy of law and humanitarian values that we have learnt to hold dear in our hearts.

The punishment of Motiur Rahman Nizami is not simply because he worked against our liberation war but because in working against our freedom struggle he committed atrocities that would have brought him death sentence even under normal circumstances.  ........  

Read more at:      

http://www.thedailystar.net/the-meaning-of-nizamis-verdict-48224


ইসলামের অপব্যবহার করেছেন নিজামী

শরিফুল হাসান | আপডেট: ০২:৫৮, অক্টোবর ৩০, ২০১৪ প্রিন্ট সংস্করণ


      Prothom Alo
 

রায় ঘোষণার পর পুলিশ ভ্যানে করে আদালত থেকে কারাগারে নেওয়া হচ্ছে জামায়াতের আমির মতিউর রহমান নিজামীকে l ছবি: এএফপি

আলবদর বাহিনীর প্রধানের ফাঁসি

মহিউদ্দিন ফারুক ও কুন্তল রায় | আপডেট: ০৩:০১, অক্টোবর ৩০, ২০১৪ |
মুক্তিযুদ্ধকালে বুদ্ধিজীবী হত্যাকাণ্ডের নীলনকশা বাস্তবায়নকারী গুপ্তঘাতক আলবদর বাহিনীর প্রধান মতিউর রহমান নিজামীকে মৃত্যুদণ্ড দিয়েছেন আন্তর্জাতিক অপরাধ ট্রাইব্যুনাল-১।

Prothom Alo

বদরপ্রধান নিজামীকে যেতে হবে ফাঁসিকাষ্ঠে

নিজস্ব প্রতিবেদক,  বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকম


২০০৯ সালের ৮ ডিসেম্বর। বিএনপির পঞ্চম জাতীয় কাউন্সিলে জোটসঙ্গী জামায়াতের আমির মতিউর রহমান নিজামী।



http://bangla.bdnews24.com/bangladesh/article873406.bdnews

৭১-এর যুদ্ধাপরাধ ও জামায়াতে ইসলামী

২৮ শে জানুয়ারি, ২০১১ সকাল ৯:৪৬

৭১ জামায়াতে ইসলামীর বর্বরতার আরেকটি নৃশংস উদ্যোগ হচ্ছে হিটলারের গেস্টাপো বাহিনীর কায়দায় আলবদর, আলশামস বাহিনী গঠন, বুদ্ধিজীবী হত্যার নীল নকশা প্রণয়ন এবং জামায়াতের ঘাতকদের দ্বারা সুপরিকল্পিতভাবে বিশিষ্ট বুদ্ধিজীবী ও পেশাজীবীদের হত্যা
যুদ্ধাপরাধীদের বিচারএকাত্তরে তাঁরা কে কোন দলে ছিলেন, কী করেছেন

http://dailykalerkantho.com/?view=details&type=single&pub_no=124&cat_id=1&menu_id=13&news_type_id=1&index=4




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Re: [mukto-mona] Pope Francis says Big Bang theory does not contradict role of God



I fully agree with Dr Bain that science and religion are incongruous and incompatible. Science is evidence based discipline whereas religion is primarily the blind faith without any evidence. The Pope is a very clever person who needs to look after his world-wide religious empire and is now trying to put a square peg in a round hole. 

- AR 


From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2014, 23:50
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Pope Francis says Big Bang theory does not contradict role of God

 
I don't agree with Dr. Roy's logic here. Religions contradicting science is normal, as most of them did not come with any systematic analysis, logic or scrutiny.

As for the Pope, the fellow is smart enough to try to provide some long-term safety to the business that he is the CEO of right now.

SuBain

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On Thu, 10/30/14, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [mukto-mona] Pope Francis says Big Bang theory does not contradict role of God
To: "Mokto Mona" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2014, 7:18 PM

Pope is exactly right;
religion should not
contradict science. In fact, it does not. Only some
brain-dead believers
contradict religion and science.
Most religions say - everything
happens as per God's
wills. Following this logic, it should not be difficult to
think that - Big
Bang was one such event that God needed to start his new
creations (point-zero). I like the accommodative nature of
the Pope. Extending
this logic further, one can say – all good ideas do come
to those who are chosen
by God, and scientists are the chosen ones to convey those
messages, since dull-headed
believers are no good for such complex
messages.  Jiten Roy   

   




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Re: [mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত মা'য়েদের জবানবন্দী'



Dr. Bain,
What do you mean by correct death and rape figures of the liberation struggle? Who counted them? It's always estimation. Would you disbelief everything else that happened because of that? Well, that's what collaborators, and perpetrators want you to believe. Obviously, many of you are buying that logic. Collaborators are saying - all these are false stories.  
Everybody understand, by now, 30 lakh figure could be far from the truth. That does not dismiss everything else that happened.    
The question here is - whether torture chamber was there, and whether rape victims were tortured during the liberation struggle. These people are saying – yes, such tortures did occur, and they are telling them. It is up to you to believe them or not.
Let's understand - what will they gain from these revelations? Nothing, except slight relief in the chest. In fact, many of those people have already endangered their lives again.
Jiten Roy
 
 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত মা'য়েদের জবানবন্দী'

 
With all the disgust against the barbarians that committed the crimes, I agree with the points that Dr. Rahman has made below.

A nation that grossly distorts the facts of history is a bastard nation. The facts should be told, and then interpretations of the reasons can vary depending on which side one is. The culture of accepting lies as facts is a huge shame for Bangladesh as a nation.

The exaggeration of the 1971 casualties is too shameful. The nation was never serious about punishing the criminals, yet inflating the figures for what? Trying to glorify the victory, or getting sympathy from the world? Well, the way I see it, when the nation is not really serious about the gravity of and punishments for the crimes, the real message is actually that the nation does not care about the deaths and sufferings of the victims. In other words, Bangladesh is not an honorable nation. (Meaning, the nation has not created honorable leaders, for which people in general had to have their sense of honor.) Why should anyone/power in the world outside of Bangladesh care?

SuBain

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On Thu, 10/30/14, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত মা'য়েদের জবানবন্দী'
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, October 30, 2014, 7:59 PM

You are saying that - you cannot
trust these descriptions, since death- and rape- figures
were all wrong.

Well, I do not care so much about
correct figures, because - I know, for sure, extremely

large number of victims were involved, and, it is true
that - many of those victims endured suffering beyond our
imagination.
This article is just revealing some of those sufferings to
us; these victims are
still alive, and one can easily verify these
stories.Jiten Roy    

From: "ANISUR
RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>

Bangladesh
history, whether it is written by a Muslim or a Hindu, is
going to be littered with lies and deception. Facts and
actual figures are all willfully distorted to gain political
mileage. 
Just look
at the quoted figure of 30 lac (3 million) deaths in the
liberation war! An absolute, unmitigated, total lie. The
actual figure is more like 30 to 40 thousand deaths on all
sides put together. When Sheikh Mujibur Rahman came back
from Pakistani prison after independence, his 'shagreds'
(sycophants) exaggerated the number wildly to impress upon
him how seriously they fought and how bloody the war was and
they put a figure of 3 lacs. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
translated this 3 lac to 3 million when he was giving his
first interview with foreign journalists. (The total
exaggeration about 100 times). Now all officials and
government publications quote 3 million deaths. This is how
history is massacred and distorted in
Bangladesh. (Consider
the following statistics: In Vietnam war over a period of
19.5 years the total death figure is between 1.5 to 1.8
million. This figure includes hundreds of thousands of North
Vietnam civilians, Viet Congs, South Vietnam civilians and
soldiers and 58,000 American soldiers. Now in Bangladesh
within nine months
without any large scale war, the death figure had gone
nearly double of Vietnam war! Are we all
idiots?). 
History
must be told correctly for future generations. The greatest
casualty in Bangladesh is the truth.
-
AR


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The conversion of 3 lacs to 3 million by Sheikh Mujibur Rahman when giving his first interview with foreign journalists after coming back from Pakistan is more like 'lost in translation' than a deliberate attempt at falsifying numbers. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman's most trusted lieutenant who gave him (Sheikh Mujibur Rahman) that figure of three lacs told me by himself of this mistake. But the dishonesty started when the government propaganda machinery seized on that number of three millions to make a very good case!

Now to get a clear perspective of the fatality one has to look at independent sources. One such source is Sarmila Bose's book 'Dead Reckoning'. Thirty to forty thousand figure is an estimate, not on the basis of collection of names and details of dead persons. Reading this book and scrutinising the methodology she used to arrive at the figure gives me more confidence in the number than arriving at three lac figure which is based on nothing - just throwing a fictitious figure of three lacs.  

I have noticed that some people put together twenty or thirty genuine murder cases (and rape cases) and then say there are many more cases like these and the number is three lacs. I have no time for such stupidity.

I find it totally insulting to those genuine cases of fatality - thirty or forty or even fifty thousand cases - that their sacrifice is deemed inadequate for the liberation of the country and these 'liars' had to inflate the number (by as much as 100 times) to be credible! This practice is an insult to the nation.

- AR

From: "Mahbub Kamal mahbubk2002@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 31 October 2014, 12:52
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত মা'য়েদের জবানবন্দী'

 
I appreciate Mr. Rahman's statement below:

"History must be told correctly for future generations. The greatest casualty in Bangladesh is the truth."

Yes - the greatest casualty in Bangladesh is the truth. My humble question is how did Mr. Rahman arrive at the following conclusion - "The
actual figure is more like 30 to 40 thousand deaths on all sides put together" - ?

Thank you.


--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 10/30/14, ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত মা'য়েদের জবানবন্দী'
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, October 30, 2014, 6:14 AM


 









Bangladesh
history, whether it is written by a Muslim or a Hindu, is
going to be littered with lies and deception. Facts and
actual figures are all willfully distorted to gain political

mileage. 
Just
look at the quoted figure of 30 lac (3 million) deaths in
the liberation war! An absolute, unmitigated, total lie. The
actual figure is more like 30 to 40 thousand deaths on all
sides put together. When Sheikh Mujibur Rahman came back
from Pakistani prison after independence, his 'shagreds'
(sycophants) exaggerated the number wildly to impress upon
him how seriously they fought and how bloody the war was and
they put a figure of 3 lacs. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
translated this 3 lac to 3 million when he was giving his
first interview with foreign journalists. (The total
exaggeration about 100 times). Now all officials and
government publications quote 3 million deaths. This is how
history is massacred and distorted in
Bangladesh. (Consider
the following statistics: In Vietnam war over a period of
19.5 years the total death figure is between 1.5 to 1.8
million. This figure includes hundreds of thousands of North
Vietnam civilians, Viet Congs, South Vietnam civilians and
soldiers and 58,000 American soldiers. Now in Bangladesh
within nine months
without any large scale war, the death figure had gone
nearly double of Vietnam war! Are we all
idiots?). 
History
must be told correctly for future generations. The greatest
casualty in Bangladesh is the truth.
-
AR
From: "Jiten Roy
jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To:
"mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>

Sent:

Wednesday, 29 October 2014, 23:02
Subject: Re:
[mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা
ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ
শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি
বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত
মা'য়েদের
জবানবন্দী'






























 













My
sincere gratitude to the author of this article; this is a
must read article.



Unfortunately, thanks to that lady from the West Bengal
(what's her name -
Sharmila Bose or something), we are still debating about how
many 'rape'
incidences did occur during the liberation
struggle.


I
am not sure how many people had a chance to read or hear
about details about
rape victims of the liberation war. Government's effort,
at the time, was to suppress
details from public. This article reminded me of what nation
has lost due to
the suppression of facts.


I
could not read through some of those vivid descriptions of
tortures those
unfortunate women endured at the hands of those animals, who
treated them as
pieces of meat; they played with their body-parts during
their lustful acts of violence.
Those women were not simply victims of rape; many of them
lost their lives
during those ordeals, and, many of those, who were lucky to
be alive, lost
parts of their body. It will be an injustice to those
victims if we simply call
them victims of rape.



The heroic women, who out-lived those ordeals, got nothing
in return after the
independence, except neglect, despair, and discrimination.
As a society, we
were rushing to cover up those atrocities, and trying to
forget those barbaric
acts, as quickly as possible in the name of protecting
privacy and honor. Did
we protect interests of those women in doing so? I don't
think so, but – we surely
have lost valuable pieces of historical
facts.


The
nation has willfully distorted history for the young
generations to come. We have
willfully deprived young generations from those historical
facts. I am not sure
if Awami League government has preserved those stories in
the audio/video
documentary format in the Liberation Struggle Memorial
Museum. I am not sure if
some of those stories have been incorporated in the history
textbooks of the
young generations, so that – they can have a glimpse of
the sacrifice some
women made during the liberation struggle. I doubt any of
these has happened.


Jiten Roy
 
From: "WordPress
মুক্তমন@vps5925.inmotionhosting.com
[mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>

To:
mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October
28, 2014 2:23 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona]
[মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ]
'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ,
বাহুল্য নাকি
বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত
মা'য়েদের
জবানবন্দী'






















 









মুক্তমনা
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'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ,
বাহুল্য নাকি

বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত
মা'য়েদের

জবানবন্দী'



একাত্তরে আমাদের মা
বোনদের ওপর

পরিচালিত পাকিস্তানি
সৈন্যদের

যৌন নির্যাতনের কতটা
মারাত্মক,

কতোটা ভয়াবহ, কতোটা
বীভৎস ছিলো-

যুদ্ধ চলাকালে আমাদের
দেশ থেকে

প্রকাশিত কোনো দৈনিক

পত্রিকায়ই তা প্রকাশিত
হয় নি।

গনহত্যা, শরণার্থীদের
কথা যেমন

বিদেশী সংবাদপত্র
গুলোতে

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গুরুত্ব

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কিংবা

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খবরগুলো

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Re: [mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত মা'য়েদের জবানবন্দী'



We would never know the true number of victims. There was a window of postmortem time right after the war but people have squandered the opportunity of figuring out the truth. To me, 30-40 thousands estimate is no more truthful than 3-4 thousands or 3-4 millions. I myself lost five individuals within my own family. Maybe we can start extrapolating a truer number from all Bangladeshi families? 
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Friday, October 31, 2014 5:48 PM, "Mahbub Kamal mahbubk2002@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I appreciate Mr. Rahman's statement below:

"History must be told correctly for future generations. The greatest casualty in Bangladesh is the truth."

Yes - the greatest casualty in Bangladesh is the truth. My humble question is how did Mr. Rahman arrive at the following conclusion - "The
actual figure is more like 30 to 40 thousand deaths on all sides put together" - ?

Thank you.


--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 10/30/14, ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত মা'য়েদের জবানবন্দী'
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Received: Thursday, October 30, 2014, 6:14 AM


 









Bangladesh
history, whether it is written by a Muslim or a Hindu, is
going to be littered with lies and deception. Facts and
actual figures are all willfully distorted to gain political

mileage. 
Just
look at the quoted figure of 30 lac (3 million) deaths in
the liberation war! An absolute, unmitigated, total lie. The
actual figure is more like 30 to 40 thousand deaths on all
sides put together. When Sheikh Mujibur Rahman came back
from Pakistani prison after independence, his 'shagreds'
(sycophants) exaggerated the number wildly to impress upon
him how seriously they fought and how bloody the war was and
they put a figure of 3 lacs. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman
translated this 3 lac to 3 million when he was giving his
first interview with foreign journalists. (The total
exaggeration about 100 times). Now all officials and
government publications quote 3 million deaths. This is how
history is massacred and distorted in
Bangladesh. (Consider
the following statistics: In Vietnam war over a period of
19.5 years the total death figure is between 1.5 to 1.8
million. This figure includes hundreds of thousands of North
Vietnam civilians, Viet Congs, South Vietnam civilians and
soldiers and 58,000 American soldiers. Now in Bangladesh
within nine months
without any large scale war, the death figure had gone
nearly double of Vietnam war! Are we all
idiots?). 
History
must be told correctly for future generations. The greatest
casualty in Bangladesh is the truth.
-
AR
From: "Jiten Roy
jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To:
"mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>

Sent:

Wednesday, 29 October 2014, 23:02
Subject: Re:
[mukto-mona] [মুক্তমনা বাংলা
ব্লগ] 'তিরিশ লক্ষ
শহীদ, বাহুল্য নাকি
বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত
মা'য়েদের
জবানবন্দী'






























 













My
sincere gratitude to the author of this article; this is a
must read article.



Unfortunately, thanks to that lady from the West Bengal
(what's her name -
Sharmila Bose or something), we are still debating about how
many 'rape'
incidences did occur during the liberation
struggle.


I
am not sure how many people had a chance to read or hear
about details about
rape victims of the liberation war. Government's effort,
at the time, was to suppress
details from public. This article reminded me of what nation
has lost due to
the suppression of facts.


I
could not read through some of those vivid descriptions of
tortures those
unfortunate women endured at the hands of those animals, who
treated them as
pieces of meat; they played with their body-parts during
their lustful acts of violence.
Those women were not simply victims of rape; many of them
lost their lives
during those ordeals, and, many of those, who were lucky to
be alive, lost
parts of their body. It will be an injustice to those
victims if we simply call
them victims of rape.



The heroic women, who out-lived those ordeals, got nothing
in return after the
independence, except neglect, despair, and discrimination.
As a society, we
were rushing to cover up those atrocities, and trying to
forget those barbaric
acts, as quickly as possible in the name of protecting
privacy and honor. Did
we protect interests of those women in doing so? I don't
think so, but – we surely
have lost valuable pieces of historical
facts.


The
nation has willfully distorted history for the young
generations to come. We have
willfully deprived young generations from those historical
facts. I am not sure
if Awami League government has preserved those stories in
the audio/video
documentary format in the Liberation Struggle Memorial
Museum. I am not sure if
some of those stories have been incorporated in the history
textbooks of the
young generations, so that – they can have a glimpse of
the sacrifice some
women made during the liberation struggle. I doubt any of
these has happened.


Jiten Roy
 
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বাহুল্য নাকি
বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত
মা'য়েদের
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'তিরিশ লক্ষ শহীদ,
বাহুল্য নাকি

বাস্তবতাঃ ধর্ষিত
মা'য়েদের

জবানবন্দী'



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বোনদের ওপর

পরিচালিত পাকিস্তানি
সৈন্যদের

যৌন নির্যাতনের কতটা
মারাত্মক,

কতোটা ভয়াবহ, কতোটা
বীভৎস ছিলো-

যুদ্ধ চলাকালে আমাদের
দেশ থেকে

প্রকাশিত কোনো দৈনিক

পত্রিকায়ই তা প্রকাশিত
হয় নি।

গনহত্যা, শরণার্থীদের
কথা যেমন

বিদেশী সংবাদপত্র
গুলোতে

প্রকাশিত হয়েছিলো
গুরুত্ব

নিয়ে সে রকম করে ধর্ষণ
কিংবা

নারী নির্যাতনের
খবরগুলো

প্রকাশিত হয়নি বিদেশী
সংবাদ

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