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Sunday, November 8, 2015

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Posted by: Sitangshu Guha <guhasb@gmail.com>


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Re: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion



The question is why the trouble has started in India now? Are Muslims totally innocents as Muslims say? Are Muslims totally secular as Muslims think or feel? I do see a problem there with duplicity in the light of what has been happening locally and globally. Most Muslim majority countries have no respect or regard for minority rights while Muslims want West and other infidel countries to be perfect in secularism and treat Muslims fairly? Even Muslims can't stand Muslims and Muslims fleeing from Muslim countries for better life in infidel countries. I am troubled with such dichotomy.
Eventually a cow would be slaughtered right in front of a Hindu house to test the Indian secularism. Why that should be a problem for the Hindus? The problem is not a black and white as people think.  
 






On Sunday, November 8, 2015 1:05 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India?"
Politicians will not go against a popular demand; it's a suicidal act for them.
It will be naïve to say that ban on cow-slaughter is just against banning beef-eating. It could be supported if it was done just for the right to eat beef alone, but the issue has religious sentiment to it also. Indian liberal intellectuals are lining up to return their awards over it is a publicity stunt.
Remember the proverb – "বসতে দিলে খেতে চায়; খেত দিলে শুতে ছায়, ইত্যাদি, ইত্যাদি,"
Let's say you legalize cow slaughter. What will happen when Muslims start slaughtering thousands of cows for the EID celebration, while Hindus, in the next door, start worshiping cows for Jonmastomi celebration?
It's not as simple as many liberals may make it to be.
Jiten Roy

 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:51 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion

 
My following comments on the subject article in bdnews24.com are 'awaiting moderation' since the morning of November 6, 2015 (Bangladesh Time):

"Another mumbo jumbo write-up. What a gibberish, "Writers, poets, artists and scientists are expressing their dissent like never before by returning their awards. But had there been intolerance their views and acts would have certainly been muzzled/ tried to be muzzled."! How would you not tolerate someone giving up his/her award, Mr. Kapoor? How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India? Lynch them like what was done to Mohammad Akhlaq in Uttar Pradesh? The reality of the matter is that India, even under the secularism-flashing political parties, has been intolerant of beef eating. The reality is that in almost 90% of the land area of India, slaughtering cow and eating beef are prohibited by law. You can read more on the subject by clicking the link below.


India surely needs to improve a lot on not imposing illogical majority and mob wishes on its citizens."








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Posted by: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>


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Re: [mukto-mona] Fwd: THE US CITY TO ELECT HIGHEST PERCENT OF MUSLIMS AND MOSQUE



Lets not prejudge these council members for the things they have not done yet. I know some people, who might be gloating about this election but we should not assume that Islamic laws would be implemented and practiced in that small city from tomorrow? We simply do not know that yet. However, if more mosques are to be built there than scientific institutions, then we know which community will loose from this new adventure. More prayer-places and religious laws have not made any society richer or enlightened.
 




On Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:02 PM, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
A lot of people in the West are stupid when it comes to political and social awareness. When Dick Cheney was asked by a journalist on TV some years back if he was surprised that majority of the US population believed that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11, his answer was that he was not. Obviously, he knew that his team of crooks could fool the population because the population was not politically conscious.

In this case of proliferation of mosques, the non-Muslim population was callously tolerant of an intolerant group. It is indeed a shame that they have been allowing noise pollution for respecting religious freedom of Muslims. They surely lost some of their own freedom to respect a way of life that is contrary to the freedom of the human mind.

SuBain

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On Saturday, November 7, 2015 10:28 AM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Scary situation.




On Friday, 6 November 2015, 23:02, "Sitangshu Guha guhasb@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 








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Posted by: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>


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Mukto Mona plans for a Grand Darwin Day Celebration: 
Call For Articles:

http://mukto-mona.com/wordpress/?p=68

http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=585

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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
               -Beatrice Hall [pseudonym: S.G. Tallentyre], 190





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Re: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion



"How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India?"
Politicians will not go against a popular demand; it's a suicidal act for them.
It will be naïve to say that ban on cow-slaughter is just against banning beef-eating. It could be supported if it was done just for the right to eat beef alone, but the issue has religious sentiment to it also. Indian liberal intellectuals are lining up to return their awards over it is a publicity stunt.
Remember the proverb – "বসতে দিলে খেতে চায়; খেত দিলে শুতে ছায়, ইত্যাদি, ইত্যাদি,"
Let's say you legalize cow slaughter. What will happen when Muslims start slaughtering thousands of cows for the EID celebration, while Hindus, in the next door, start worshiping cows for Jonmastomi celebration?
It's not as simple as many liberals may make it to be.
Jiten Roy

 

From: "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 9:51 AM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Greater equanimity required in understanding tolerance - bdnews24.com opinion

 
My following comments on the subject article in bdnews24.com are 'awaiting moderation' since the morning of November 6, 2015 (Bangladesh Time):

"Another mumbo jumbo write-up. What a gibberish, "Writers, poets, artists and scientists are expressing their dissent like never before by returning their awards. But had there been intolerance their views and acts would have certainly been muzzled/ tried to be muzzled."! How would you not tolerate someone giving up his/her award, Mr. Kapoor? How would you muzzle their nonviolent act of feeling sad and outrage over the state of affairs vis-a-vis beef eating in India? Lynch them like what was done to Mohammad Akhlaq in Uttar Pradesh? The reality of the matter is that India, even under the secularism-flashing political parties, has been intolerant of beef eating. The reality is that in almost 90% of the land area of India, slaughtering cow and eating beef are prohibited by law. You can read more on the subject by clicking the link below.


India surely needs to improve a lot on not imposing illogical majority and mob wishes on its citizens."






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Posted by: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>


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Mukto Mona plans for a Grand Darwin Day Celebration: 
Call For Articles:

http://mukto-mona.com/wordpress/?p=68

http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=585

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VISIT MUKTO-MONA WEB-SITE : http://www.mukto-mona.com/

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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
               -Beatrice Hall [pseudonym: S.G. Tallentyre], 190





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[mukto-mona] Fw: ক্ষমা চাও , ফিরে এসো দেশে !!!!!!





On Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:18 PM, Muhammad Ali <manik195709@yahoo.com> wrote:




On Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:17 PM, Muhammad Ali <manik195709@yahoo.com> wrote:




On Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:16 PM, Muhammad Ali <manik195709@yahoo.com> wrote:




On Sunday, November 8, 2015 12:15 PM, Muhammad Ali <manik195709@yahoo.com> wrote:


ওহে নারী ,
তোমার শরীরে আগুনে পোড়া 
জ্যান্ত মানুষের গন্ধ !
কিসের সংলাপ তোমার সাথে ?
হইনি এখনো অন্ধ। 

ক্ষমা চাও ,
ফিরে এসো দেশে ,
মানুষ হত্যা , ধ্বংস লীলা 
সব করো বন্ধ। 
Muhammad Ali Manik's photo.










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Posted by: Muhammad Ali <man1k195709@yahoo.com>


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Mukto Mona plans for a Grand Darwin Day Celebration: 
Call For Articles:

http://mukto-mona.com/wordpress/?p=68

http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=585

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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
               -Beatrice Hall [pseudonym: S.G. Tallentyre], 190





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