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Thursday, August 4, 2016

[mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Indian secularism :One In Every Four Beggars In India Is Muslim




On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:48 PM, Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com> wrote:
TUPI OR NO TUPI
Abid Bahar

It is not any tupi but surely the perception of the Muslim tupi that causes the number of Muslim unemployment in India. Surprising though, here Anisur Rahman a man from Prothom Alo appears more Indian than Indians, defending India against an Indian Muslim beggar. So much so that you might think he is an Indian or originally from Indian. Contrary to his shallow understanding of the typical man, It is a common knowledge that Muslims who ruled India for 700 and more years are now being systematically discriminated even to the point of demanding their expulsion from their native country.

A closer look shows Mr Anisur Rahman's excuse of tupi as the main factor here for the poverty of Muslims in India is fundamentally flawed. It is an argument similar to white South Americans masters blaming the Black people in the south as having low IQ and" lazy" causing their backwardness. Later on this was proven to be due to discrimination against the black people.This type of argument is called " blaming the victim." If tupi makes the man poor, a beggar, what about some Hindu ministers putting on Hindu tupi became even ministers in Modi cabinet? Could it be because it is a  Hindu tupi; a tupi of a different kind from upper class Hindu background? What about Nehru tupi even?

To me India with the caste system, discrimination to the lower class still having a powerful presence in everyday Indian life, finds Muslims no better than the horijons. The latter is also an unfortunate group discriminated in everyday Indian life.

 Based on the above analysis, to me if Anisur Rahman holds a scholarly/ responsible position in the Prothom ALo, we can only assume the sorry state of intellectuality of this newspaper. However, we can see these people are successfully engaging in spreading Indian anti Muslim hatred even in outside India through especially people like Anisur Rahman who are working in Bangladesh as if more Indians than Indians in India. 



On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 4:31 AM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
I think, there is no fantastic message in this report. The 20 per cent Muslims make up 25 per cent beggars, what is so abnormal in it? If anything, it only shows that the Muslims are lazy, don't want to work and have chosen the path of begging in the name of God. 
The man in the picture seems to be quite in good health. But wearing tupi and good clothes, he gives the impression of a respectable man. But probably he has no vocation, no knowledge, except ability to recite some Quranic verses (without understanding) and praying to God. This is what blind faith makes a man - a beggar. 

- AR 


On Saturday, 30 July 2016, 6:18, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com> wrote:


One In Every Four 'Beggars' In India Is Muslim: Report


An elderly man sits along a street as he waits for alms in Srinagar August 8, 2007. REUTERS/Adnan Abidi
Nearly 25 percent of the 3.7 lakh Indians categorised as "beggars" in the 2011 Census are Muslim, according to data released last month, reported The Indian Express. That's a total of 92,760 Muslim beggars in India.
While most of beggars in India are Hindus—about 72.2 percent—Hindus are also the majority religious group in India, accounting for almost four-fifths of the country's population. The number of Muslim beggars is significant as compared to their overall population in India, which stands at 17.22 crore as per the last Census.
A majority of the Muslim beggars are women, which is contrary to the national trend, where there are fewer women beggars compared to men.
Earlier, reports have indicated that Muslims have the lowest living standard in India, and spend less than ₹33 every day. The steadily increasing Muslim population in India is neglected, reported The Economist.
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Re: [mukto-mona] Panic Mode: Khizr Khan Deletes Law Firm Website that Specialized in Muslim Immigration



Dr. Pannah,
You must remember how emotional Mr. Khan was, when he pulled out the US constitution from his pocket. I thought, he was avid supporter of US constitution. But, my notion was disputed by the attached link in the previous post. It shows - he is a staunch support of Sharia Laws.
So, I think - his gesture with the US constitution was just to make a political point to rebuke Trump.
Regards'
Jiten Roy



From: "'Dr. Em Pannah' em.pannah@americatech.us [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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This is not a nice question...

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 
Was it US constitution or Sharia constitution, Mr. Khan pulled out of his pocket during the speech?

 

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Re: [mukto-mona] Mental disease is the new name for terrorism in Europe? Who they kidding?



Mental disease is in Christians, and it called liberalism.
See what Father Hamel, who was slaughtered recently in France, was doing for Muslims neighbors in France, and see how handsomely he was rewarded for his good works.  
See the detail below:

Was Jacques Hamel A Martyr To The Faith Or To His Illusions About Islam?

The ISIS-inspired attack on a priest and his church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray is a lesson in the price Christianity pays for the fanaticism of profligate mercy.

By Maureen Mullarkey

By Maureen Mullarkey

August 4, 2016

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Before the Rev. Jacques Hamel's blood dried on the floor of his church, calls went out to place him on the fast track to sainthood. Hashtag beatification spread through Twitter: #santosubito, or "make him a saint now." In this rush to canonize the murdered French priest, something crucial went missing.

There was a time the Catholic Church used the word dialogue differently than it does now. Historically, dialogue meant an opportunity to convey and defend the truths of the faith. It was never a companionable device to underplay irreconcilable differences and just get along. As employed today, dialogue with Islam is accommodating and uncritical, a faux-Franciscan burlesque of the real thing.

More complex than the fey, nature-loving, social justice drop-out of pious legend, St. Francis of Assisi embodied the older conception. He accompanied the Fifth Crusade to Egypt in an effort to convert Sultan al-Malik al-Kamil, a Muslim general with sovereignty over Egypt, Syria, and Palestine. This was dangerous dialogue, a precarious gamble for the sole purpose of furthering Christianity. Francis imperiled himself to make catechumens of the enemy.

By contrast, in these feminized—gelded—times dialogue has dwindled into manners. Lady-like, the churches put down doilies, set out tea, and offer crumpets and compliments to those who would as readily accept our heads on a tray. They bide their time. We squander ours on unreciprocated courtesies. Meanwhile, their numbers grow.

A Martyr Offers His Blood

The difference came to mind reading commentary by the eminent Catholic historian Roberto de Mattei. Writing in Il Tempo, he called Hamel "the first martyr [in Europe] at the hands of Islam." His essay on the slaying, translated for Rorate Caeli, closed this way:

If Pope Francis announced the start of the process for Father Hamel's beatification, he would give the world a peaceful but strong and eloquent sign of the will of the Church to defend its identity. If, on the other hand, he continues to be under the illusion about a possible ecumenical agreement with Islam, he will repeat the same errors of those wretched politics which sacrificed the victims of the Communist persecution on the altars of Ostpolitik. However, the altar of politics is different from the holy altar in which the unbloody Sacrifice of Christ is celebrated. Father Jacques Hamel received the grace of uniting himself to this sacrifice, offering his own blood, on July 26th.

But Hamel did not offer his own blood. It was sliced out of him. He was taken unawares, a victim, not a willing agent. He did not choose death in defense of his faith. He was caught by surprise and slaughtered on the spot.

A declaration of sanctity should rest on agency, not accident. We Catholics are quick to spill theological language promiscuously onto events that call for something sturdier, more stringent. Tutored from the pulpit by a generation of capons, we let language—the poetry of faith—become a siren song deflecting attention from implacable realities.

The historical Francis— Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone—would spin in his grave at the words of Sister Helene, one of the nuns taken hostage during the priest's murder. Her captor turned from his kill to ask if she was familiar with the Qur'an. She answered, "Yes, I respect it like I respect the Bible." Her words suggest equality between the two.

From Krakow where he was attending World Youth Day, Hamel's superior, Dominique Lebrun, Archbishop of Rouen, intoned an equation of his own: "I have learned about the killings this morning in the Church of Saint-Etienne du Rouvray. There were three victims: the priest (84 yrs old) Fr Jacques Hamel and the two authors of the assassination."

Compare St. Francis' startling bluntness to an armed enemy: "It is just that Christians invade the land you inhabit, for you blaspheme the name of Christ and alienate everyone you can from His worship." Biographer Frank Riga finds no indication the saint ever instructed his friars who went on mission into the Muslim camp to learn the Quran or honor the tenets of Islam. Il Poverello, as he was called, was not a man with patience for multicultural niceties.

Love Doesn't Mean Acquiescence

Set aside, if you can, all horror at Hamel's murder. Look past, please, all warranted sympathy for this good man and his terrible end. There remains a question: Was the priest a martyr for the faith or to his own illusions about Islam?

By all accounts a kindly man, Hamel served in a parish committed to the very illusion of ecumenical agreement with Islam that de Mattei abhors. The Belfast Telegraph reports the nuns gave reading lessons to Muslim kids in the tower blocks. Church authorities soared above such neighborliness. Courting dhimmitude, they donated the land beside Hamel's church to local Muslims to build the mosque his two young killers attended. During Ramadan, the parish hall "and other facilities" were given over to Muslims. (In terms of Islamic jurisprudence, the mosque and the ground under it belong forever to the eternal ummah. The archdiocese has ceded a portion of Normandy to the caliphate. Allah be praised.)

In his last pastoral letter, Hamel called for communities to live together and "accept each other as they are." But accepting Islam means recognizing its totalizing nature. Authentic acceptance is unsentimental. It is a prod to staying watchful. To befriend Muslims as individuals does not cancel the necessity to know Islam's history, its millenarian ambitions, and its enduring theological imperative toward violence.

Christian charity does not entail any obligation to accommodate Islam's muscular expansion in the West. One way to love the enemy is to defeat him. Yet Hamel's parish was actively lending itself to Islam's ascendancy. Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray is a lesson in the price Christianity pays for the fanaticism of profligate mercy.

Denial Is Not Merciful

It surprised me that de Mattei's outrage attached to the fact that this atrocity occurred to a priest and on European soil. Hamel was not the first European Catholic to die at the hands of Islam. In essential human terms, the life of a priest does not outweigh the lives of slaughtered laity.

Besides, there were certainly some Catholics, unacknowledged, among the dead in the six attacks in and around Paris last November. Or in the Brussels airport attack this March. The gravity of this one death does not surpass that of the massacre of 21 Coptic Christians beheaded last year on a Libyan beach. Nor does it eclipse the chronic seepage of Christian blood throughout the Middle East, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Uganda, the Philippines—everywhere that suffers a significant proportion of Muslims.

The church's identity has been at stake all along. Jorge Bergolio's quisling pontificate is incapable of defending it.

The church's identity has been at stake all along. Jorge Bergolio's quisling pontificate is incapable of defending it. Worse, the pope presumes an equation between the two. An August 1 report in Breitbart quotes his distaste for speaking about Islamic violence "because there is plenty of Christian violence as well." There is a willed ignorance to papal responses that can only make Christianity more vulnerable in the Islamic world. And compels Catholicism to play the stooge: "If I speak of Islamic violence, I must speak of Catholic violence,' Francis said. 'And no, not all Muslims are violent, not all Catholics are violent. It is like a fruit salad; there's everything.'"

Cherishing denial as a signal of high-minded comity, His Holiness continued: "I do not believe it is right to identify Islam with violence. This is not right or true."

This haste to canonize Hamel is a mistaken response. It would provide the illusion of having acted when, in truth, no action was taken. A theatrical gesture of symbolic defiance but with no correlative in the real world only embolden those forces moving against us. Canonization proceedings—in this instance, at this time—would communicate passivity, not sanctity, in the face of lethal aggression.

London's Independent reports that "dozens of Muslims in France and Italy attended Catholic Masses as a gesture of interfaith solidarity following the attack on the priest." Only dozens? Out of how many million?

Jacques Ellul, writing 40 years ago, remarked on the West's lust to scourge itself: "I see Europe marching with giant steps to its end: not for economic or technical or political reason, not because it is being overwhelmed by the Third World… but simply because it has decided to commit suicide."

There is sadism in today's bacchanalia of mercy issuing from our churches. Mercy toward whom is never quite clear. Retreat into denial about the nature of Islam holds no mercy toward an increasingly fragile West and its people.

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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

"Police arrested a 19-year-old Norwegian national of Somali origin. They say there is no evidence of radicalisation.

Speaking at a press conference, the Met's assistant commissioner for specialist operations, Mark Rowley, said the police investigation "increasingly points" to the attack being "triggered by mental health issues".-BBC

What a relief that this was not a terror attack but a mental disease case? The victims were randomly chosen and man came all the way from Norway to validate his mental disease? How long can these people play these dumb games?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36972126




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Re: [mukto-mona] Panic Mode: Khizr Khan Deletes Law Firm Website that Specialized in Muslim Immigration



This is not a nice question...

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Was it US constitution or Sharia constitution, Mr. Khan pulled out of his pocket during the speech?

 

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[mukto-mona] IS has grown root in Bangladesh, NBC reports/ It started with bloggers' killings



Bangladesh was little late to wake up with the IS reality. As long as these thugs were targeting freethinkers, our gullible Awamis saw no evil, heard no evil. But, when valuable lives of foreigners were taken, they saw the light and the future consequences? Shamefully, some of Awami leaguers' sons were/are connected to this devil organization. 


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[mukto-mona] Mental disease is the new name for terrorism in Europe? Who they kidding?



"Police arrested a 19-year-old Norwegian national of Somali origin. They say there is no evidence of radicalisation.

Speaking at a press conference, the Met's assistant commissioner for specialist operations, Mark Rowley, said the police investigation "increasingly points" to the attack being "triggered by mental health issues".-BBC

What a relief that this was not a terror attack but a mental disease case? The victims were randomly chosen and man came all the way from Norway to validate his mental disease? How long can these people play these dumb games?

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-36972126


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Re: [mukto-mona] গরু গণনা ছাড়া সরকারের কোনো কাজ নেই : মমতা



Mamata is right here. The human-shaped cow-babies of India are a disgrace to the human species. The Hindus that have been promoting themselves to Humans should reject the cow-baby morons who are proud of their Hindu religious idiocy.

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On Thursday, August 4, 2016 1:40 AM, "'Jamal G. Khan' M.JamalGhaus@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
 

গরু গণনা ছাড়া সরকারের কোনো কাজ নেই : মমতা


আমাদের সময়.কম
02.08.2016

1460986870-550x334আন্তর্জাতিক ডেস্ক : ভারতের পশ্চিমবঙ্গের মুখ্যমন্ত্রী মমতা বন্দ্যোপাধ্যায় বলেছেন, গরু গণনা ছাড়া কি কেন্দ্রীয় সরকারের আর কোনো কাজ নেই? কেন্দ্রের গোরক্ষা কমিটির কর্মসূচিতে যোগদানে অস্বীকৃতি জানিয়ে আজ (মঙ্গলবার) তিনি এ কথা বলেন।
ভারতের রাষ্ট্রীয় স্বয়ংসেবক সংঘের সহযোগী সংগঠন (আরএসএস) গো সুরক্ষা সমিতি গত রোববার রোববার থেকে পশ্চিমবঙ্গে গরু গণনা কার্যক্রম শুরু করেছে।
আজ সংখ্যালঘু কল্যাণ দপ্তরের অনুষ্ঠানে মুখ্যমন্ত্রী বলেন, 'বিজেপির মতলব শুধু প্ররোচনা দিয়ে দাঙ্গা বাঁধানো। কেন্দ্রীয় সরকার শুধু বিজ্ঞাপন দিয়ে নানা মৌলবাদী চিন্তাভাবনায় উসকানি দিচ্ছে। গুজরাট, উত্তরপ্রদেশে দলিত মুসলমানদের ওপর নির্যাতন চালানো হচ্ছে।'
স্বভাবসুলভ ঢঙে কেন্দ্রীয় সরকারকে আক্রমণ করে মমতা বলেন, 'কেন্দ্রীয় সরকারের কাজটা কী? কোনো কাজ নেই। কাজ শুধু বিজ্ঞাপন দেওয়া। আর গরু গণনা করা।'
মমতা আরো বলেন, 'বিজেপির কথায় কান দেবেন না। ওরা দাঙ্গা বাঁধাতে চাইছে। সারাক্ষণ টুইটার, ফেসবুকে ধর্মের নামে সুড়সুড়ি। আমরা প্রগতি চাই, দাঙ্গা চাই না। পশ্চিমবঙ্গের মানুষ দাঙ্গা ক্ষমা করে না। সব ধর্মই তো আমার ধর্ম। আমি হিন্দু হয়েই বলছি, এসব ভাগজোক আমরা চাই না। নিজের ধর্ম পালন করতে গিয়ে অন্যের অসম্মান করা ঠিক হবে না।'
মমতা বলেন, 'আমার দেশ হলো যৌথ পরিবারের মতো। সেই পরিবারের কোনো সদস্য খারাপ থাকলে দেশও ভালো থাকে না। আর তাই কেন্দ্রের জঙ্গিবাদের বিরুদ্ধে সব ধর্মের মানুষকে একাট্টা হয়ে এগোতে হবে।'
এদিকে মমতার এই বক্তব্যের পর পশ্চিমবঙ্গে গো সুরক্ষা সমিতির সংগঠক সুব্রত দত্ত বলেন, গ্রামে গরু গণনার সময় গোপনীয়তা বজায় রাখা হবে। যেহেতু মুখ্যমন্ত্রী জানিয়েছেন গরু গণনায় বাধা দেওয়া হবে, তাই আমরা হামলার আশঙ্কা করছি। -এনটিভি অনলাইন

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