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[mukto-mona] Dr. Avijit Roy and His Enlightening Role for Freethinking in Bangladesh





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[mukto-mona] [Mukto-Mona Writers' Corner] 'Dr. Avijit Roy and His Enlightening Role for Freethinking in Bangladesh'

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Enlightening Role for Freethinking in Bangladesh'


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Dr. Avijit Roy was hacked to death just outside the Dhaka Book Fair by
assailants with machetes on February 26, 2015. The assailants attacked him from
behind as we learned from the news report. These killers were not different from
those who picked up Bengali intellectuals and killed them mercilessly in 1971.
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Re: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother



Midway between two extremes. I think majority are moderates. They believe but their beliefs are not fanatical in nature. 

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On Mar 20, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I actually get confused with the term "moderate."
 
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On Friday, March 20, 2015 6:09 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




 
If these people are considered as moderates, who needs lunatics? As you rightly pointed out, these are the people who do not know where they belong? They call murderers as non-Muslims but justify their heinous acts full-heartedly. What a self-contradictory logic!
 




On Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:04 AM, "Sukhamaya Bain subain1@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The fanatics are lunatics, and the moderates (like Mushrafi) are idiots. My problem is mostly with the idiots who provide the environment for the growth and survival of the lunatics. If they applied any brain into their thoughts, they would see that hurting Allah almighty should not make any believer angry; rather they would feel sorry for the hurter, fearing the punishment that Allah can give. They can say only "Allah will punish you", they cannot support any punishment from people (the lunatics). 
 


On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 10:07 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"In their views, all other ideas are attackable if those are not on their line. " mushrafi

Only thing that I attacked here is your position of intolerance. Every time some religious belief is questioned, you would use a meat cleaver?
Is that your grand logic? What are the ideas that you are fighting for? Express explicitly if you care. Only thing that stands out so far from your posts is that Abijit murder is justifiable because he hurt your religious feeling.



 




On Wednesday, March 18, 2015 5:53 PM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Happy to watch that few people are felt alarmed being exposed of their free passage of comfort ideas from their own dark holes. I consider it is a success to produce a mild shaking. At least this is an exposure process of intolerant ways of their dangerous practices of "intellectuality" only on their own ways. In their views, all other ideas are attackable if those are not on their line.  They loves jacks who sings their tunes only. They become aggressive to all, whoever says what, without digesting the information available. Often they loose the civility of writing, twists and disfigures  ideas of others to create more social unrest. Have no patience for logical exchanges, because minds are possibly preoccupied by borrowed ideas.
 
MuktoMona is great to play a vital role in these exposition. We need more of it so that greater readers would be able to find the fact at the end.
 

From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 01:43:02 +0000
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother

 
People are committing horrendous crimes by virtually believing in those after life illusions! Totally justifiable according to your deep thoughts? Who do you carry water for, dear? Free thinkers or butchers?
 




On Monday, March 16, 2015 9:11 PM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Merely Shallow thinking dear. Think deeper, get out of illusions of slogan's against great faiths, get out of the tunnels of tunnel vision of one's own created comfort hole. Don't be "Joromona" then Muktomona sir. Put logic then jargons forward.
 

From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:42:17 +0600
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother

 
If you try to raise doubt in the icons I have rested my faith on, I would lose my head and follow medieval duty to kill you for which I would be rewarded with even more luscious women in the afterlife. I would thank you afterwards for affording me with such an opportunity. Pipe dream!

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On Mar 16, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

There you go again! Avijit murder is totally justified because his pen hurts your religious feelings? Are you so inferior with your pen that you can't even respond in kind? You need to kill people to silence them? Do you think that is a great strategy to save your faith from future critic? Is that so shallow?
This is rather a comical argument for all Muktomonas. 




On Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:12 AM, "Mohammad Mushrafi mushrafi@hotmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

 

From: mushrafi@hotmail.com
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2015 09:02:40 +0000


D/sister Kamrun,

I appreciate your love for peace and humanity before any politics, religious fanaticism or butchery. When I totally condemn such heinous acts at the same tone I express my disappointment to a number of people are attacking other people's faith and inflaming violence, I would say.  As example the Charlie Abdoo Peris magazine keeps on propagating an agenda and relentlessly ridicule the faith of Islam without a depth or demonstrated understanding of it. Surprisingly this magazine never peruse such ill-conceived, illiterate evils against Krishna, Moses or Jesus, though there were/are fanatics in every faith and there are historical wrong doings in all faiths. These all in the name of so called "Freedom of speech" by arrogantly ignoring the fact that freedom is essentially attached with the responsibilities and boundaries.
 
"The pen is more powerful that machetes ", by believing this mantra, the pen holders need to be respectful to all faiths, those which many people held very close to their hearts. No intelligent or noble person is expected to hurt other people's heart-held feelings of faith or position of opinion. Where a free thinker has a right to speak their mind at the same time the faith holders have equal right to speak their mind.  By attacking or ridiculing some one's faith by pen is far more hurtful then attacking by knives indeed.

I therefore believe that "Agree to disagree" is a key to reach out to the peoples of different opinion. The pen-powered people are in a higher power position to manage this difference of opinion situation. The knowledge or wisdom cannot be forced on to someone at all. By ridiculing or hurting others, no one should expect peace, love and to bring people to their own opinion camp. A believe that "my thinking/ideas are absolute right and all others are wrong and need to be attacked" is totally foolish. These kind of grandiose and arrogant attitude will make the world unsafe, and chaotic for sure.

Just imagine if all quarters tries to attack each other's opinion and demands s/he is only right then what would be the consequences?

 

 

 

 

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From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 23:08:36 -0800
Subject: [mukto-mona] To the Soul of Avijit Roy, our dearest brother

 


Dear Avijit da, I have lost word to write to you. You have donated your dead-body for the welfare of Bangladeshi medical science, but what we Bangladeshis have given you in return, I was asking to myself. From the drift of conscience, I am here to confess that I am heavily indebted to your mukto-mona website that encouraged me greatly to be a poet. Mindless killers should know, Allah is not so stupid that He has built heavens of breathtaking beauty for those, whose hands are tarnished with the blood of his own brothers. Human species declaring war against own species happily imagine that they would bring their so-called peace on earth by extermination of those, who are in their views sinners, not worthy of mercy. But they know not that bloodshed can never bring peace, rather leave the world as a poor desolate planet without a little sign of human life.

Dr. Kamrun Nahar
Bangladesh
alorkona@yahoo.com



















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