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Tuesday, July 8, 2008

Re: [mukto-mona] Jawed Karim story

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The first write up about Jawed Karim was published in Banladesh in Daily JaiJaiDin in Nov. 2006. An interview questionnaire was sent to him before the write up. He did not response! A sample published article was also sent to him. He did not response!! Neither his father!!!

Mohammad Golam NABI
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[mukto-mona] [Bengali article] Religion as social identity

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/biplab_pal/Religious_Identity.pdf

Based on recent development in social science, I have tried to explain behavior of both religious and atheist people as 'role playing'  model in our society. This is an attempt to explain why we look for an entity in religion and how that identity crisis gradually leads to religious extremism.

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[ALOCHONA] Kashmir: Occupied, Partitioned and Disputed

Mr. Souza has said this fact wrong that fate of Kashmir was to be decided on religion of population. This was never the formula of Partition of India. The Formula was, "States would remain independent under the British Viceroy" and British had not announced they were leaving tomorrow after that.
 
Northwestern Province used to be a part of Afghanistan until 1834, when Maharajah Ranjit Singh of Punjab had conquered it besides Kashmir and Sindh. British had conquered not only that Province and Baluchistan but also Afghanistan by 1880. Since previously it was Afghanistan, it was not given to Pakistan, nor were Qalat State (Baluchistan), Saraiki-speaking Bahawalpur State (now part of Punjab Province of Pakistan) and other 12 smaller States in and around Punjab though all these states and Northwestern Province were Moslims.
 
It proves, Mr. Souza is wrong. After the Bull Dog (Great Britain) left both cats (Pakistan & India) ran to swallow all the Mice (Small Independent States) but neither could swallow the fattest of them (Kashmir). It got stuck in their mouths and since then they are fighting. Pakistan has 2/3rd of former Greater Kashmir State. Calls it Northern Territory and Azad Kashmir. India has the main 1/3rd of state.
 
No Kashmiris were fighting for any independence until Pakistan started sending Armed Infiltrators of whom some were Army Soldiers in disguise in 1989. ISI's Infiltrators and money had been playing a big role in Indian Kashmir from 1989 to 2002, when India had amassed her whole Army at the border of Pakistan after ISI JehaaDi had attacked Indian Parliament Building.
 
USA saved Pakistan by forcing Pres. Musharraf to agree to stop sending JehaaDis in to India. What really Kashmiris want?
Be them in Pakistan or India, they want to unite their state to old status and become an independent country. Real Kashmiri Organization has been vocal and its leader has even delivered a speech in European Union's General Assembly a couple of months ago.  
 
This Writer, sitting in Brazil, has been spoon-fed by ISI because he says 90,000 Kashmiris have been killed by Indian Army and Police. The whole world knows Pakistan had claimed 14,000 were killed even in UN General Assembly until 1999. Come Kargil Crisis, they raised the number to 25,000. Then, a frenzy of raising the numbers or you may call it a 'competition' went on between the Pak Government Officials. By the time Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif left for Washington, it had reached 60,000. When he landed back from Washington after agreeing to withdraw Pak Army Battalion from heights of Kargil sitting their with huge Cannon bombarding Indian Troops, he claimed it up to 63,000 but was immediately corrected to 93,000, since numbers had kept going-up without his knowledge, while he was out of Pakistan. Such a lying cheating country Pakistan is.
 
History of lies of Pakistan: 
 
1. 1949 - Pakistan Army is not in Kashmir. His own Kashmiris have risen against Maharajah.
2. 1965 - India has attacked Pakistan, when actually Pakistan had secretly sneak-attacked India, conquering a part of it to cut the highway link connecting Kashmir to India.
3. We successfully defeated India. When actually Islamabad could have been conquered by India in a few more days if USA had not caused 1965 Cease Fire.
4. January 1971 - Indians "Ghoss Baithi-ye" have entered in to East Pakistan. The are in the Jungles and are not leaving. They are being supported by East Pakistani Hindus. Army Action against Hindus of East Pakistan is needed.
5. As 1971 Indian Invasion started, "US 7th Fleet is going to East Pakistan (presumably, to fight with Indian Army on Pakistani side, when it was not)". 
6. After fall of Dhaka, "Finally, Pakistan has been saved ...!"
 
Real Kashmiris are not pro Pakistan, pro Al Qaeda or pro Taliban. You can go to this link and watch, what they have posted on Internet.
http://www.shaheedfoundation.org/foundationnews.asp?Id=693&Type=News     
 

Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo.com> wrote:

Kashmir: Occupied, Partitioned and Disputed

While New Delhi's population tried to escape from a 40ºC heat by slipping into air-conditioned shopping centers some 400 miles to the southeast, we gazed upon a cold drizzle through the open third floor window of a building without energy in the middle of Srinagar, the "summer capital" of Indian-occupied Kashmir. The drizzle slowly turned into snow.
 
"It last snowed in April in 1987, I guess," remembers Mohammad Morifat Qadri, publisher of the Afaaq Diary.
Nineteen eighty seven is an emblematic year since it marks the change in posture of some separatist leaders who, because of a great number of arrests and fraudulent elections, decided to take up arms. It was the beginning of a new escalation of military tension in this region, making Kashmir, already hotly disputed by two nuclear potencies – India and Pakistan – for more than 50 years, one of the most militarized territories in the world..
 
"Maybe it is just a sign of new changes in the situation of Kashmir," I dared say.. "Inshala," answers Qadri. God willing.
 
Despite its strategic importance among India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Tibet, Kashmir has been treated by the global media as a mere point of dispute between India and Pakistan. It is rare to hear about the Kashmiri's fight for independence and self-determination. Even if newspapers blame attacks on "extremist separatist" groups instead of "terrorists", readers remain confused about "who wants to be partitioned? and from whom?" There are at least 12 military or political groups acting there, and three major leanings:
 
independence, autonomy, and annexation to Pakistan. There are two agreed points: the retreat of troops and a popular inquiry about the future of Kashmir.
Moreover, there is very little information about international interests in this region, especially in regard to the United States' global war against terror. Actually, there are as many CIA agents in Kashmir as there are Al Qaeda members, and according to the most recent NATO policies, after September 11, the United States does have a "legal justification" to invade the territory. As a matter of fact, when Pakistan became a major non-NATO ally of the United States the pressure increased on political-military circles to solve, once and for all, the problem of Kashmir. It is not casual that the first formal meeting, since 2001, between Pakistan and India would be happening this month. In 2001 an attack on India's Parliament, which was blamed on Kashimiri separatists supported by Pakistan, led more than 1,000,000 soldiers to the Line of Control (LoC) - the United Nations-drawn border dividing Kashmir into Pakistani- and Indian-controlled areas. It almost led to nuclear war.
 
"The international community has been failing to hear the voice of Kashmiri people, maybe because we don't have oil or anything else to offer," says Mohammad Yaseen Malik, president of the Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF). One of the first groups to join the fight, JKLF is now devoted to political actions. Malik was one of its leaders in the campaign for boycotting elections in Kashmir. Less than 18 percent of the electors voted and many of them were constrained to go to the polls by military forces. In the day before our interview, Malik had been beaten and arrested during a demonstration in Islamabad, a Kashmiri city. In the following days, he would be arrested again. "After September 11th," Malik continues, "USA and Europe had to propose new plans for peace and stability to the world, and we hope it also involves Kashmir, through popular participation. We are not able to foresee the future, but sooner or later, we will be unified, with no more LoC, and free from India and Pakistan."
 
"I might say with no hesitation that American interests are neither for humanitarian causes nor for justice," argues Syed Ali Geelani, the president of All Parties Hurriayt Conference, an organization that assembles separatist parties and groups. "Why should we expect any action coming from them or even from international community? Just notice how this global potency has been treating the Iraq prisoners of war! We will continue our efforts at United Nations in order to protect our essential rights, regardless the obvious antipathy Security Committee shows about Muslims. We are all Muslims but, above all, we are humans. We must have faith in the greatest power of all, the power of Allah!"
 
A History of Occupations
The Vale of Kashmir, famous for its magnificent natural beauty, with vast fertile areas, rivers and lakes surrounded by big high mountains, always arouses dreams of independence in its governors, most of whom have been foreigners. Since the third century A.D., Buddhist, Hindu, Mongolian, Afghan, Muslim and Sikh kings or princes ruled, totally or in part, this Indian state that is currently known as Jammu and Kashmir. Its population always suffered, sometimes more, sometimes less, according to the governor's personality. The Dogra dynasty, for example, which ruled until 1947, held the "right" to exercise the so called Beggar - to collect people in cities and villages for forced labor, giving them nothing for it, not even food. When they died of hunger, thirst or injuries, they were simply replaced by others.
 
With the end of British domination in 1947, governors of each state in India had to decide whether their respective territories would be incorporated into India or into Pakistan, based on three factors: territorial contiguity, religious predominance and free will of the people. Despite its long frontier with Pakistan, and the fact that 90 percent of its population was Muslim, the state was ruled by a Hindu Maharaja, Hari Singh. Singh was tempted to grant autonomy to the region but hesitated to make this decision. Only after the eastern part of the territory had been invaded by the Pakistani Pashtun tribes did he decided to sign a statement of adhesion to India. Then the military forces came "to his aid." Approximately 300,000 Muslims who tried to emigrate to Pakistan are said to have been killed by Dogra and Sikh military troops.
The first war between India and Pakistan for Kashmir control lasted until 1949, when the Line of Control was established, keeping apart many families and fellow-countrymen. Since then, the United Nations Security Council has set many resolutions concerning the Kashmir situation and required the achievement of a plebiscite through which people could decide their own future. However, India has ignored these resolutions and, since 1957, defended its argument that the state of Jammu and Kashmir integrates its territory. From this time on, things have been growing worse and worse. "Typical of any nuclear potency, India is an arrogant and imperialist country, hence it refuses to make international agreements and to accomplish the UN resolutions," says an international spectator, whom we have talked with.

Conventions and Agreements

In the 1990's, India allowed the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) to operate in its territory. According to the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU), the Red Cross is allowed to visit prisoners related to the conflict, about 1,500 currently, and to report to Indian authorities how these people have been treated and whether the procedures comply with the humanitarian rules established by the Geneva Convention - the so called International Humanitarian Rights (IHR). The Red Cross, in turn, agreed to keep these reports in confidence and not question the way these arrests have been processed. This is the only possible way to get access to prisons.
 
"We've made some progress and we are extending our actions," says Robert Przedpelski, chief of the Red Cross' South Asia delegation. "Since last year, for example, we've been providing courses on IHR addressed to the security forces in this region, it might avoid greater problems in the future." The ICRC has also helped the Red Cross in India to build an orthopedic unit in the city of Jammu, the winter capital of Kashmir, and to improve signaling systems for the big minefields in Pakistan's frontiers. India did not sign any agreement for clearing the minefields; on the contrary, it has implemented a great number of them during the last decade.
 
Atrocities
Off the battlefield, the actions of Indian forces, not only in the prisons but also in the streets of Kashmiri cities and in their frequent "Siege and Search" operations within rural areas, are a great terror for all the people. After all, India has approximately 600,000 soldiers stationed in that region, three fold more than the foreign occupation troops in Iraq. These men, whose religion, food, language and culture are different from those of the Kashmiri, are responsible for killing 60,000 to 90,000 persons in the last 15 years - years of terrific atrocities.
 
The Himalayan Mail, a local newspaper, publishes daily on its first page the "official placard" of persons who were killed in the year. On May 6, the score announced 547 deaths since January 1: 152 civilians, 321 militants and 74 members of security forces. The book "Catch and Kill – A Pattern of Genocide in Kashmir," published in 1997, depicts details about the 129 extra judicial executions of civilians under custody, including women, elderly and teenagers, that occurred just between Oct. 10,1996 and March 31, 1997. A report in Asia Watch, dated May 1991, documented 100 cases of rape from the village Kuan Poshpora committed by soldiers of the 4th Raj Rifle Regiment of Kupwara, showing 53 testimonies, including one of a pregnant woman, who said that she had been raped in front of her 6-year-old son.
 
"Indian military occupation of Kashmir has always been illegal, immoral and inhumane," concludes Syed Ali Geelani. "There are more than 10,000 disappeared persons. People in jails have been tortured with glowing irons and electrical shocks. In many cases, their families receive only pieces of a corpse to be buried. Thousands of villages have been frequently burnt with any sensible reason or justification. Even if there is a mujahedin hidden in one of these locations, there would be no reason to burn an entire village. I could list thousands of dead persons' names here and none of them was a militant, terrorist or guerrilla fighter."
 
Just a few steps away from the main streets of Srinagar we could find in smaller alleys and stores ordinary people who were willing to talk openly about the problems they face. In the district of Dalgate, a man noticed our interest in the children playing around the graves of a cemetery. He came closer to show us the burial places of martyrs that were killed by Indian soldiers - the case of his son. "This is a small cemetery, there are hundreds of larger ones, especially in the mountain villages," he says. "This will only have an end when Indian forces leave Kashmir and we become finally independent."
 
Checkpoints
Abdul Geni Wani, whose family lives in Bandipoyra, works at three houseboats (floating hotel rooms on Dal Lake) during the summer. Three of his militant cousins were killed by the Indian army. Despite his position for independence, he doesn't believe in weapons. "Koran says: a good Muslim should not kill," he ponders. Wani explains that this is his last working year in Srinagar because he is afraid to leave his family alone. "My oldest son is 15-years-old, the soldiers might come upon him and decide to arrest or kill him, just because they think he is a mujahedin," he says. He tell us about an episode in which his son witnessed an execution in the middle of the street, and another one in which his son was detained by troops, rifles pointed at his head. I asked him if we could visit his home and he answered that we would need to provide an authorization card showing his village address in order to cross the checkpoints.
 
But there is no need to take secondary pathways to be stopped at Kashmiri checkpoints.. They are everywhere. To visit the small Hindu temple of Shankaracharya, we have to travel a 4 k.m. road with three checkpoints. Personal inspections and metal detectors are also common in bank entrances, post offices and mosques. In the main mosque, the great Hazart Bal, the cleric Bashir Aamad Farroqi addressed a sermon on May 3 to 15,000 persons, among soldiers and rifles.
 
Along the road to Gulmarg, a ski resort one hour from downtown Srinagar, there are soldiers every 100 meters. Around Dal Lake there are soldiers every 10-15 meters. Boatmen who drive the shikara (a typical boat similar to a gondola) must stop at the post located in the middle of the lake to show their work authorization and identify all their passengers. It's no surprise that the presence of tourists is quite rare.
 
Mental Health
Constant tensions, military occupation and the abusive actions of soldiers have also made a great impact on the population's mental health. There is no more night life and options for amusement grow scarce.. Only one of the 12 movie theaters operating in Srinagar in the early 1990's remains open; likewise, there are only two functioning bars among the hundred's that existed before. "Due to the conflict, there are great needs in mental health sector of the population," says Stuart Zimble, chief of Doctors Without Borders' (DWB) Delhi delegation. "We helped to restore the infrastructure of the unique psychiatric hospital in the state, and we also requested one part of the building with an external entrance to provide advising services to people who have been affected by continuous stress or post-traumatic stress."
 
Saskia Ohlin, DWB's delegate in Srinagar, tells us that cases of people who lost their relatives in the conflict, or were arrested and tortured, or witnessed attacks, are quite common. "But most of the persons that come to us are affected by problems related to prolonged stress, such as depression, headaches, apathy, palpitation, insomnia," she says. Up to 200 patients visit the medical office daily. The institution has been trying to reach zones hard to access, especially those near the Line of Control. DWB has a weekly radio program, in which some dramatizations concerning ordinary situations are presented. "Our advisers are the local workers we train and supervise, and they advise people to share their troubles with friends, to attend parties, to listen music, to pray."
 
Solution?
As I was about to end this article, I read in the newspapers about a new attack by Hizbul Mujahideen, a Pakistan-based rebel group. More than 33 people died, among them the wives and relatives of Indian soldiers. The Associated Press published a statement from the new Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh: "The persistence of this senseless violence in Kashmir is yet another indication that terrorism continues to pose a grave threat to our nation's integrity and progress, while we will continue to seek peaceful resolutions." At this same time, I thought of a report that had been restricted to Kashmiri newspapers, only. Two weeks before, the operation commander of Hizbul Mujahideen, Ghazi Shaha-ud-Din, had been led to the interior of a house in Gurgadi Mohalla by the police before the view of tens of people. He later turned up dead. The official version says, obviously, that a gun fight took place after police discovered his hideout. The news goes on being manipulated.
I decided to send an e-mail to a Kashmiri colleague to get his opinion about the new Indian government and to find out if the perspectives related to the meeting between India and Pakistan had been changed. Mohammad Qadri answered that he is still optimistic, that members of the new office are all old leaders of the Congress Party and, therefore, they know more than anyone the question of Kashmir because they also participated in the agreements between Pakistani and Kashmiri leaders in 1971 and 1975. He adds also one more important notice: soon after the meeting, the Indian Union Home Minister, Shiv Raj Patil, will finally meet the leaders of the All Parties Hurriayt Conference. This might be indeed the beginning of a solution for the question of Kashmir. Inshala!
 


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[mukto-mona] RE: Moyeen and Jago Bangladesh

After concurring with most of what Mr. Rabiul Islam says, Dr. Farida Majid faults him for missing the point that there have been repeated assaults on the constitution by the military or military-backed governments.   Dr. Majid also points out the "Islamization" that has accompanied these assaults.  I do not fault Mr. Islam for "missing" these points because he has touched many others to present his main thesis that the military is unlikely to be a heralder of a healthy democracy, and that a military backed political system is a poor substitute for a civilian multi-party democracy, however flawed the latter may be.  When one presents a view, one is not always able or remember to include every point and every argument to articulate that view, and Mr. Islam cannot be faulted for missing some points, however important they might be. 
 
I also think that both Mr. Islam and Dr. Majid did not mention the important point that the very first major assault on the constitution came in the form of instituting a one-party government in 1975 in complete violation of one of the four principles of the 1972 constitution, namely Democracy (intentionally spelled with a capital D), but I am not going to fault either of them for that. 
 
We can summarize all the views in this thread (Mr. Islam's, Dr. Majid's and mine) by saying that our political process is still going through infancy, albeit a rather exasperatingly prolonged infancy, and that our political parties tend to mess up the process, and then the military takes over to with a claim to clean up the mess, and then they mess it up even more.  To use the infant metaphor a little more, our civilian politicians can be accused of criminal negligence and outright abuse of the baby, and our military of directly injuring the baby in their of ill-conceived attempt to punish the dysfunctional politicians.  Then, there is a "democratic movement" led by the dysfunctional politicians to overthrow the even more dysfunctional military, and the cycle repeats all over again. There appears to be no solution to this circular problem, and while we all hope to see some light at the end of the proverbial tunnel but this tunnel does not seem to have an end because it might be, in fact, a donut-shaped tunnel.
 
I am somewhat puzzled and disturbed by the disrespectful and condescending tone at the end of Dr. Majid's post where she asks Mr. Rabiul Islam to "memorize" an opinion issued by two judges.  I hope that it was not intentional because I often enjoy Dr. Majid's erudite writings, although I disagree with many of the opinions she expresses.
 
Best wishes,
 
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[mukto-mona] Jawed Karim story

Dear All:
 
The other day my nephew, a criminology professor of a Illinois university came to the DC area to join the celebrartion of Mymensingh Cadet College Class Reunion. My nephew told me about Jawed Karim, an accomplished young man. Jawed's father Naimul Karim, a graduate of MCC, now works for 3M company in Minnesota. Jawed's mother comes from the then East Germany (GDR) originally.
 
Jawed is one of the cofounders of Youtube. He  was associated with the makers of paypal as well.
 
I am giving you a link to Jawed's lecture on Youtube, followed by a story on him from Dhaka's Star magazine.
 
Here is Jawed Karim, a talented Bangladeshi-German-American kid.
 
-Jamal Hasan
 
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Jawed Karim, Illinois Commencement 2007, pt1 (Youtube)
 
 
 
 
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Muhit Rahman

Jawed Karim, net maverick and one of the founders of YouTube, has earned many accolades for his talents

I first met Jawed in 1994 in St. Paul, Minnesota. My friend Naimul Karim had been transferred by his employer 3M Company, from Germany to its corporate headquarters in St. Paul, and his temporary assignment had just become permanent. Although not altogether sure about settling down in the US, the Karim family had just moved to a new house. And Jawed, who was barely 15 had his own room. I saw Naim after a very long time and it was also the first time that I was meeting his wife Christine, Jawed, and his younger brother, Ilias.

I had brought Jawed a sweatshirt autographed by Arnold Schwarzenegger that I had picked up at a charity auction in Los Angeles and Jawed was delighted. Schwarzenegger was the hero of all teenagers at that time and Jawed didn't know if he should wear it or frame it!

"Come see my room," Jawed said, and I dutifully followed him up the stairs to his room. It was a beautiful room -- bright windows, nice stained wood furniture, neatly laid out bed, desk and cabinets with a computer monitor occupying a prominent spot and jewel cases of CDs stacked neatly around.

"Very nice" I said as I looked around.
"All these" Jawed said, and waved at the neatly arranged CDs. "are my programmes".
"Very nice," I said again and turned to walk back out. Kids, you, know! Always wanting to show off all their possessions!

"No, you don't understand" said Jawed with an earnest tug on my sleeve. "I wrote all these programmes and you can buy them in stores."
Jawed had my full attention. And that is when I knew that this kid was going places.

Jawed came to the US in 1992 as a 13-year-old for whom, technically, English was the third language! Born in Merseberg in what was then the Deutsche Demokratische Republik or East Germany, Jawed was the first child for Christine and Naimul Karim who had met as students at the Martin-Luther-Universität Halle-Wittenberg in Germany, fallen in love and gotten married. Naim, who I should add has been at various times, my rival, my best friend, my roommate and many other things (we used to sit on the roof of his parents' apartment in the DIT quarters in Shiddheswari and act like we were not watching the girls on the neighbouring roofs), had moved to Leipzig, Germany in 1975, the same year that I came to the US. There, he had to learn German before entering the regular programme to get his "Diplom" (equivalent to Master's degree) in chemistry. Having to do your studies in a brand new language would be a big enough challenge for most people. But not Naim, who after all, stood first in the combined merit list for Dhaka Division SSC exams in 1972 (edging out his rival, friend and roommate by two marks). Naim had plenty of time to kill even after his studies and no longer limited to roofs, he managed to ask a beautiful, young German fellow student out for tea. They talked, and they talked some more and they discovered other things that they could do together and one thing led to another ... you know how it goes! Naim and Christine got married and a year later, they were graced with the birth of Jawed. Almost 30 years later, Naim is an accomplished scientist at 3M Corporation with 30+ patents to his name and Christine is an assistant professor of biochemistry at the University of Minnesota. (Another son, Ilias was born in 1989, also in Germany - "just wait till you hear about him" says Naim).

But in 1981, although the iron curtain was getting fairly rusted, the Berlin Wall still stood and democracy and freedom did not rule in the DDR. While as a Bangladeshi citizen, Naim was free to travel anywhere, the same was not true for Christine and they longed to escape the regimented restrictions of the Deutsche Demokratische Republik. At the end of the summer, Naim bundled Christine and Jawed on to a train for Amsterdam, presumably on their way to visit Bangladesh. The train stopped at Frankfurt, the Karims got off and they never looked back. Aided by a West German policy that happily welcomed anyone who successfully scaled the wall, albeit figuratively in this case, Naim and Christine finished their studies, eventually getting their Ph.D.s in chemistry in this little town called Kaiserslautern between Frankfurt and the border with France. In 1985, Naim took a job as a product development engineer with 3M in the city of Neuss close to Köln. Christine and Jawed joined him six months later. But not before Jawed had spent an entire summer in Dhaka with his grandparents in Uttara! And during that summer, Jawed became a true Bangali. He loved it in Dhaka. In no time at all, he became fluent in Bangla. And to make matters worse, he completely forgot his native tongue, German!

Speaking about it a couple of nights ago, when I was checking some facts for this story with Jawed over the telephone, I could almost see the smile on his face as he recalled that he did not want to leave Bangladesh at all! They had to put him on the plane kicking and screaming ("Na, jabo na! Ami jabo na!").

Jawed, explaining his innovative concept to university students

"I was crying, I think," said Jawed in his customary low key way.
So you see, English is indeed Jawed's third language!

As a child, Jawed was like a sponge and the whole world around him was liquid. Everything that happened around him, he absorbed silently and completely. Early on, in Neuss, his elementary school teacher Frau Winkes took Naim aside.

"You know something? I wouldn't worry about Jawed. I wouldn't worry about him at all. He's going to do something big. Something really big!"
Asked about what is important, Christine puts it succinctly "to develop new things .... is our life". Jawed learned early on ... how to develop new things. Still today, an occasional topic of good-natured rivalry at the Karim dinner table is who has more publications (Christine) or patents (Naim).

I suspect that Jawed, who for the moment, lags behind in both those categories, might be ahead in one or two others.

It was also in Neuss that Naim believes he made the best investment of his life. Walking through a flea market (an open air market for used knick knacks), Naim and Jawed spotted an old Commodore C-64 computer. On an impulse, Naim bought it, brought it home and set it up. Father and son played around with the computer and Jawed learned how to programme in BASIC. He was hooked and there was no turning back! The old Commodore was the first of many computers in Jawed's life but it still occupies a sentimental spot in the basement of the Karim home.

Fast forward to Minnesota, circa early 1990s. Jawed spent a year at the Capital Hill Magnet School before moving on to St. Paul Central High, a large public school in St. Paul. A few years ago, Naim tells me, he ran into Ken Hanson, one of Jawed's old teachers who is now the assistant principal. Mr. Hanson grabbed Naim's arm and dragged him to his office. There, framed on his wall was a picture of Jawed that he has hung on to, long since Jawed graduated from high school. You could say that Jawed had left his mark!

In high school, Jawed was like any other boy except that he wasn't! He was not tremendously into sports, preferring academic teams, math in particular, but with one exception. He loved to race bikes. He went for long distance rides -- 50 miles, 100 miles -- he'd think nothing of it. And his love affair with computers continued. The internet revolution was just taking shape and Jawed was all over it. He worked the net, making friends, writing programmes that he posted on forums and bulletin boards and chat rooms, free to anyone who wanted them. He did a lot of pioneering work with, what else, computer games, particularly, a game that used to be very famous some 10 plus years ago called Doom. And in doing so, he became known to many of the other budding net mavericks. ("You're not the Jawed Karim?" asked his freshman college roommate when they first met.) But he never lost sight of the practical side of things. When his school was struggling with issues of communications, he and a classmate set up an e-mail system for the entire school. This was, mind it, long before e-mail had become so ubiquitous that sometimes you wish you didn't have it!

The next time I heard from Jawed was late one wintry evening in 1999. We had just recently moved to Cincinnati after living in Los Angeles for 20 years and the onset of winter coincided with the onset of doubts in my mind about our move. What sane person leaves sunny southern California for the dead of a midwestern winter? No sane person indeed, was my answer to myself when I heard the phone ring. It was Jawed. A couple of years ago he had entered the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, a hotbed of internet innovation and activity. It is in the labs of UIUC that Marc Andreessen and a couple of others created Mosaic, the precursor to what became known the world over as the Netscape internet browser. And it wasn't until Netscape's browser became widely available that using the internet became possible for more than the academic researcher. In a sense, it was Netscape's public offering in 1995, initially slated for $14 per share, bumped at the last minute to $28 per share, and closing on the first day at $75 per share that officially marks the beginning of the internet era. Jawed, no surprise, had followed his interest to the hallowed halls of UIUC where the young men (and the occasional women) who'd change the world were busy changing the world.

Jawed's parents Naim and Christine developing new things is a way of life for the family

It was the beginning of junior year (3rd year) at college and Jawed was torn about what to do. It seems that an upstart internet company called X.com (they were all upstarts or start-ups and often, both) had made Jawed an excellent offer. He'd be paid a princely salary and have an opportunity to join a happening bunch of guys on the proverbial ground floor. The catch? He'd have to drop out of school and move to Silicon Valley. So Jawed was calling me for advice.

"What did your dad tell you to do?" I asked Jawed.
"He told me to call you!"
"Oh! Let me call you back in a little bit," I said. I hung up and called Naim. I wanted to make sure that I had my friend's permission before I told Jawed that this was an opportunity of a lifetime and he should grab it. And so it was that a few months later, Jawed found himself surrounded by a bunch of other youngsters in the heart of Silicon Valley who rightly thought that the world was their oyster.

Jawed was one of the earliest employees of a company that is better known today as PayPal. The hours were long, the challenges were big and when the internet bubble burst, the going sometimes, was tough. But PayPal persisted and outlived competitive threats through the work of key architects such as Jawed and in 2002 was purchased for $1.5 billion by eBay which had tried but failed to build its own in house electronic payment processing arm. As an early employee (but not a founder), Jawed did alright. At the tender age of 23, he made enough money to never have to work again (if he didn't want to). But Jawed was just getting started.

Over the next few years, Jawed and many of his core group of friends stayed at PayPal for a bit and then branched out. Jawed finished his undergraduate degree and got interested in many new and emerging concepts. Some quickly went nowhere while others are still going along and can still turn out to be big someday. Near the centre of these activities were these youngsters who had already earned their financial independence, learned the basic skills of entrepreneurship and had endless reserves of energy and ideas. Now they had the money to fund those as well. Jawed also decided that he wanted to pursue graduate studies in Computer Sciences and he enrolled at Stanford University.

Three of these friends, Jawed, Chad Hurley and Steve Chen were particularly close. They'd meet often and stay up late, brainstorming at Max's Open Café or at one of their apartments, all located near Stanford. The idea of YouTube hatched from the three of them talking about how difficult it was to send or find video clips on the net. Something, clearly, had to be done -- and YouTube was born. Early on, the three founders had agreed that Jawed was not going to become an employee, choosing to remain a graduate student at Stanford and foregoing a part of his founder's equity stake in a deal that he views as a fair trade-off. He remained the official advisor of the new company and was instrumental in bringing in Sequoia Capital as the venture capitalists who funded most of YouTube's operating expenses. After an initial slow start, YouTube began to catch on. Net aficionados around the world took a liking to the fledgling site and soon, they were bombarded with postings of just about every kind of video you can imagine. Many copy cat sites followed, including one by none other than the 800 pound gorilla, Google. But YouTube had a full head of steam, a good lead, dedicated and hungry programmers and ideas and energy that easily outstripped everyone else.

I spoke with my friend Naim earlier in the year when YouTube first began to draw attention. I did not quite understand the business model and wanted Naim to explain it.

"It is really very simple," Naim told me. "Their business model is to be bought out by Google."
A few months later, YouTube videos were getting downloaded over 100 million times each day! Not wanting to take any chances, Google swooped in and signed up to buy YouTube for $1.65 billion. This time, Jawed was not just an employee, he was a founder. Once the deal closes, as the third largest individual shareholder of YouTube, he'll join the ranks of richest of the rich.

I caught up with Jawed two days ago when he called me to check in. Naim had told him that I might do a piece on him and that I would like him to call me. Although he is 27-year-old young man, to me, he seemed still the bright-eyed innocent youngster, modest, calm and a little bit amazed at all the attention and commotion.

"You know, all this is really not so important" he told me. "Every evening when I leave school or work, I step out and look up at the sky and I see the stars. Science has helped us a great deal but fundamentally, we know nothing really, about the bigger questions in life." Jawed, I noted, has something few people his age do-- perspective.

I asked Jawed if he had anything to say to all the youngsters, all the striving dreaming youngsters of Bangladesh who could perhaps be inspired by his words. Jawed thought for a while and said that he wasn't sure that he had anything profound to add to all the important things that have already been said.

"Perhaps I should just quote Larry Ellison" (the billionaire founder of Oracle Corp.) Jawed said to me. Ellison, according to Jawed, said "I don't know of any place or any time where there aren't great possibilities." Jawed feels that those are the words that I should convey to the people of Bangladesh on his behalf.

 

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[mukto-mona] Youtube's cofounder Jawed Karim's CNBC interview

Here is the link to Youtube's cofounder Jawed Karim's interview on CNBC. Jawed looks more like a Bengali in this segment.
 
-Jamal Hasan
 
 
video
 
CNBC - "On The Money"
Jawed Karim's interview begins at position 3:45 into the clip. ... jawed karim CNBC ...
Added: 1 year ago
Views: 15,402
 
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[mukto-mona] Most Muslim coverage 'negative' -- BBC news

Most Muslim coverage 'negative'

Researchers looking at the way British Muslims are represented by the media say they have found that most coverage is negative in tone.

A Cardiff University team behind the study looked at nearly 1,000 newspaper articles from the past eight years.

Two-thirds focused on terrorism or cultural differences, and much of it used words such as militancy, radicalism and fundamentalist.

The research was commissioned by Channel Four's Dispatches.

Dr Paul Mason, a member of the team, said the team looked at three areas.

They carried out a statistical analysis looking at types of stories and the way Muslims were described and the language used, the photographs used alongside the stories and they analysed the types of case studies used.

You get these inaccurate stories about this threat of there is going to be more mosques than churches which is a complete nonsense
Dr Paul Mason
He said: "We looked at both nouns and adjectives and the way in which British Muslims were described.

"And we found the highest proportion of nouns used were about things like extremism, suicide bombers, militancy, radicalism - which accounted for over 35% of the adjectives used about British Muslims - fanatic, fundamentalist - those kinds of languages were used.

"And Islam was portrayed or constructed in the language as dangerous or backward or as a threat," he said.

The team found that since the attacks of 11 September 2001 in the United States and 7 July 2005 in London there had been an increase in stories about British Muslims and this peaked to more than 4,000 in 2006.

'Perceived threat'

Mr Mason added: "What you have to be careful of here is to watch the kind of generalisation of the very, very small number of people that are involved in political violence of any kind and the generalisation about Islam which is carried out by the newspapers.

"So following 9/11 and 7/7 of course there is a perceived threat from the public and the public are concerned about political violence.

"But it is wholly wrong to make what the newspapers do in the generalisation of those who carry out public violence to the whole of Islam and the whole of the British Muslim community."

He said there were concerns that journalists and editors may have sought to appeal to their own readership about some perceived threat to British unity or values.

"You get these inaccurate stories about this threat of there is going to be more mosques than churches, which is a complete nonsense.

"There are roughly 900 mosques and there are 42,000 churches, so this is a ridiculous report."

The Channel Four documentary, It Shouldn't Happen To A Muslim, investigated whether the 7/7 London bombings and the fear of terrorism had fuelled a rise in violence, intolerance and hatred against British Muslims.



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RE: [ALOCHONA] CHI CHI HASHINA , ATOBORO CHOLONA ?

If Sheikh Hasina is that much sick she should have been in the hospital.

She is now trotting the entire globe.

 



--- On Tue, 7/8/08, J.A. Chowdhury <Chwdhury@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: J.A. Chowdhury <Chwdhury@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] CHI CHI HASHINA , ATOBORO CHOLONA ?
To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 3:59 AM

Dear Aminul,
I surprised to see ur AKKEL. Ex-PM Hasina and Moha-Chor,Je Etimer taka mere khai,ur great leader Tarek Babur same??

Hasina has problem in her ear,need to reset a new device,which is not possible in BD.That why she get chance for ear treatment in abroad.CA said yesterday in Kualalampur, other leader Begum Zia can get same facilities if she want.If she give condition,without her son she will not get free from jail,it is her personal problem.We understand,as a mother she can demand it but same time we need to remember it is not"mama barir abdar".
 
As a ex PM Kheleda can get same facilities like Shakh Hasina,we never mind,but a criminal like
Tarek Babor Mamun....should get the same facilities? CHI CHI chi AMINUL SHAB....shame on u..
 
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Subject: [ALOCHONA] CHI CHI HASHINA , ATOBORO CHOLONA ?


dear all,
Ex prime minister Sk Hasina is now  in London on a family tour ,she wiil also go to Finland.Great lesure for great jonodorodi netri .She is very well with son, daughter, sister grandson and grand daughter and other relatives.She enjoys it.
She is abroad  for treatment.BUT?
What about the other leaders? Has she any sympathy for others?
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[mukto-mona] He can do anything for winning

Obama seeks Hanuman's blessing for White House race
10 Jun, 2008 PTI

 

NEW YORK: It's unusual. But, it's a fact. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic party's presidential nominee, is seeking the blessings of Hanuman in his battle for the White House.
The 46-year-old senator from Illinois, who defeated his rival Hillary Clinton in an epic 17-month long electoral battle for Democratic party nomination, carries a "tiny monkey god" apparently representing "Hanuman" with him for good luck.
A recent photo posted on Time's White House Photo of the Day collection shows the first ever Black-American nominee of a major US party for the Presidential elections carries with him a bracelet belonging to an American soldier deployed in Iraq, a gambler's lucky chit, a tiny monkey god and tiny Madonna and child.  That "tiny monkey god," of course, appears to be a statue of the Hindu monkey god, Hanuman, says the posting but editors and the photographer has not identified it as such.
Obama, whose father was a Kenyan and mother a white woman from Kansas, spent initial days of his life in Indonesia where Hinduism is a popular religion.
In addition to a lucky penny, Republican candidate John McCain carries a lucky nickel, and a lucky rubber band, which he wears around his wrist. He also has a lucky sweater and a lucky hotel room in New Hampshire, says the caption on his photo.
"People give Clinton lucky items all the time on the campaign trail," said a Clinton spokesman.
"Recently, for example, she's received a lucky coin, a lucky handkerchief that a woman in Texas gave to her that she sometimes keeps in her pocket, and a lucky bracelet that a woman in Ohio gave her that she wears every day. She keeps all of them."

 

 

 

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