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Tuesday, September 2, 2008

[mukto-mona] TO SIR HANNAN - REF : ASHRAF ALI THANWI

Dear Sir,

In your article "The Religious Education of Muslim Women in Bangladesh" you wrote:- "One of the most well known among these reformist Ulama who showed significant concern for enhancing women's informal/household religious knowledge in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries was the Deoband Madrasa-trained scholar Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanavi (1864-1943). His encyclopedic work, Bihishti Zewar (The Ornaments of Paradise), was primarily aimed at women (although Maulana Thanavi strongly encouraged men to follow it as well) and contained a vast amount of extremely detailed religious prescriptions for conducting numerous daily religious and household activities and for purifying bodily, mental, and emotional states. Maulana Thanavi's emphasis on both Muslim men's and women's EQUAL obligations to seek knowledge and education was remarkably egalitarian for contemporary society, particularly the then worldview of many Indian Ulama and the Muslim elite"

Are you serious? Did you really read that dangerously nasty book? It legitimizes Instant Divorce even under compulsion, drug, alcohol, pain and joke and gets those wifves raped by stranger in the name of Hilla. It is a seriously anti-women and so anti-Islamic book. We also know what this "scholar" did to women suffering in the hands of cruel husbands during 1920 – 1930's. These helpless women could not afford the anti-Islamic and corrupt Sharia Law of "Khul". Finding no other way of getting rid of their beast husbands they started posing apostacy that automatically dissolves marriage by Hanafi law. Think! How much they suffered and were desperate to pose leaving Islam ! The Indian mullas rushed to your "scholar" for solution. And what he did? He did not rescue the suffering sisters; he did not block the torturous husbands! Instead, he issued a Fatwa discarding Hanafi Law and imported Maliki Law because wife's apostacy does not dissolve marriage. Such a butcher he was that he blocked the only way-out of suffering women and arranged for their virtual destruction in the name of Islam. Sad that he got respect and support from scholars like you.

I'm sad to say this is the character of Sharia-scholars - they never listen to human cries.

Sir, people normally do not read these books and depend on scholars like you for justice and info; just like they blindly depend on doctors.

Now, if a doctor betrays patient what s/he can do?

Hasan Mahmud.

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[ALOCHONA] A Tough Journey for Bangladesh

A Tough Journey for Bangladesh

By- Abu Zafar Mahmood
rivercrossinternational@yahoo.com

Is Bangladesh moving confidently towards it's goal of advancement? Could peoples get out of corrupt leadership? What might be the consequences of disagreeing with Indian interferences in Bangladesh politics and supervisory attitude ? Why accusation against China, Saudi Arab and Pakistan all on a sudden jumped up through the former Chief of Army who did not stop the Army officers in assassinating Sheikh Mujib, the founder president of Bangladesh in 1975 and remain untouched till now?

The answers should need huge digging. Some open symptoms and references could be helpful which came up recently. Let's keep eyes and ears on what our dignitaries are saying and doing in Bangladesh Affairs.Instead of huge pressures and threats the steering team from inside the governance keep hold the way of slow and steady policies with patience and winning the competitions. That really surprises the observers. Though peoples have question on many issues.

Bangladesh needs to get corrupt-free democratic atmosphere to form a political government with the representations from almost all powers which could be treated as the main tools of balanced powers. Every part of opinions should get the equal scope to speak out and mobilize it's supporters in organizing of bringing the peoples representatives under the laws of the Republic.

Since the Change in January 11th, the entire population changed them dramatically through their natural common sense and saluted Bangladesh joint forces, the Care taker government and later Advisory cabinet to turn the face of the nation toward future. The cadres and supporters of the political parties postponed their enmity to each other. They taken long breathe. A great hope was made in the minds of the peoples that this time the corruption will disappear or at least syndicates of the corruptions will be weakened and the crooked net work will be identified and brought under law. The nation will regain the goodwill; deprived peoples will get the atmosphere of availing the scope in participating in the competions of changing the fortunes. The crime rate will go down. Economic growth rate will jump up high.

In the meantime, some news media appeared as these are the partners of the Caretaker and Advisory cabinet. They started publish stories after stories focusing their biasness infavour of Awami league against BNP and Jamaat-e-Islam in cyclonic style. The fake and funny stories were made and placed in campaign just with the target of serving the interests of special uncovered powers. They played vital role to misguide the officers on steering the governance, created and flown smoke of mysteries to the peoples, supplied false information to the government's agencies. They appeared and acted as the friends of the government, came closer and push their covered knives inside the main targets.

The foreign policy of Bangladesh gradually came up for the implementation tools of Indian interests.Indian Ministers,Military commanders,Bureaucrats,Politicians rendom visit in this year shown that. The sources confirmed that the foreign advisor desperately declared his role of building Indian friendship with Bangladesh . He positioned his followers of same faith of Indian interests in almost every key posts of the foreign ministry and awarded postings in United Nations also, isolating the regular process of posting. Some sources say the foreign Advisor influenced professional diplomats to follow him right or wrong under compulsion in favor of certain vested corner.

Before joining in Bangladesh , American Ambassador John F Moriarty took oath in a high ranking ceremony in United States . The Secretary of state Condoleezza Rice and American past and in-service top diplomat dignitaries were present there. How an Indian Ambassador privileged to be accompanied with the Bangladesh Ambassador Mr. Humayun Kabir in that ceremony? The question still remains unanswered. The Sources confirmed that the American high dignitaries did not like it, rather expressed surprise with this dramatic presence where shows the Indian interferences in US-Bangladeshi affairs.

On the otherhand, the interests of Bangladesh with Saudi Arabia , Kuwait and Arab Emirates are remarkably ignored in this Advisory period. So these strongest allies of Bangladesh are unhappy and carefully observing the trends of latest Bangladesh foreign policies. It can be clearly said that this is a conspiracy to escalate the anger of Saudi Arab and other Arab countries in a goal of damaging their relations with Bangladesh with them for creating full dependency on India .

It is believable that there could be more than one political lobby active in any government. India , China , Russia , South Korea , Iran , America , Canada , Venezuela , Britain , Saudia , Australia , Japan , German, Pakistan , Israil and more countries might have political lobbies in here. As per the records in my hands Saudi Arab, though it's new, invests the highest budget for the global intelligence in the world where as 2nd largest budget for CIA of United States. All the powers and super powers have their external intelligence to hire peoples for their respective interests. So when RAW influences in Bangladesh 's foreign policy and in internal politics, press media nothing to be unusual.

The election Commission declared that Local govt.(Upa-Zila) elections will be held in October and the election for National Parliament will be held on December respectively.The recent interesting matter is that one international lobby already opened up signals displaying their players in the political party process which is ready to challenge the power contests through any hard line. Observers' analysis is that they already setup network within some layers of the election commission, bureaucrats and other areas where they are ready to influence and massacre the uncontroversial election management. Are they interested to find these Advisory government for more service instead of taking uncertain business in parliamentary election? Such question also come up with this.

Major General (Rtd) A.K.M Shafi ullah already cleared their party position where he accused Saudi Arabia , China and Pakistan for their role behind the assassination of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman which never recorded in "Bongo Bondhu Hotta mamla".But however, he did not touch the role of India . Where as RAW is the highest influential foreign intelligence in Bangladesh since before liberation of Bangladesh . No foreign intelligence can dare to organize such devastating event in that situation in Bangladesh without the knowledge and clearance of RAW. He presented this accusation for creating angers of his party followers against these three countries.

Records mention that he was a sector commander in the liberation war of Bangladesh in 1971and these Army officers also were the liberation war heroes together with him and Indian Armies jointly in that war. He was positioned the Chief of Bangladesh Army staff when his loyal Army officers assassinated the president of Bangladesh in 15th August 1975.

However, the newly accusation against China , Saudi Arab and Pakistan might have the target to create grouping in Army and divide peoples. As because China has been equipping Bangladesh Army since it recognize Bangladesh to till today. Naming Saudi Arab for it is the source of highest remittance in Bangladesh and naming Pakistan to make it easy believe and it is India 's enemy by birth and involved in bloody wars .

On 24th August 08 Sunday Awami league Adviser Major General (Rtd) Shafi ullah delivered a lecture in a public meeting Organized by Jubo league in Rupganj Upozilla in Narrayagonj district.In that meeting he accused China, SaudiArab and Pakistan for the key role supporting some Army officers who assassinated Bongo Bondhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.However, Shafi ullah was the Chief of Bangladesh Army at that time.Sheikh Mujibappointed him Bangladesh Army Chief in 1972 over crossing senior Major General Ziaur Rahman. Some analysts still argue that the Freedom fighter Army officers were loyal to their Army Chief. They taken the decision of assassination let knowing their Chief .That's why he did not oppose the officers in their mission. All of them had strong relation with Indian Army and Indian Intelligence as they fought together during liberation war in 1972.

What might be the causes behind choosing this time of raising this accusation against specially these countries? What could be the consequences of this political show up? Though it is small news in Bangladeshi media, it deserves the analyses and observation. Are they or their godfathers are disheartened any way to the govt`s decision on election? Is Sheikh Hasina chosen hard line to challenge the release of Begum Khaleda Zia? Is US-Israel-India line posing plan for bloodshed in Bangladesh ? Is Bush-Cheney targeted South Asia to use in their presidential election purpose for their war hunger foreign policy?

The Global powers have been adapting new tricks of dominating the weaker nations. Bush – Cheney administration conquered Afghanistan and Iraq and turned regions their hub of militancy. Russia already attacked Georgia and controls South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The Cold war escalated in Europe where Bush needs it for using the militant foreign policy for one Candidate McCain in Presidential election and Russia needs the same as Strong Prime Minister of the Federation Vladimir Putin appeared and head up already to re-establish the Union .

Super power and the ally of Bush-Cheney-Israel lobby support and extended hands to Indian forces for "Akhond Bharat dream" to re-unite separated Pakistan and Bangladesh regions under Indian Union.So,

What Bangladesh needs? What should be the choice of Bangladesh in this trend of Super powers? The major waves of Bangladeshi political powers are moving forward for Democratic process and preparing themselves for elections in local Government and in the National parliament in October and December respectively to organize the political unity from root level to national level, with no exception.

Why the Military leadership in Awami league showing hard line approach? The Indian allies are gradually changing their political strategy as the news of negotiation of government with Khaleda Zia developed for the peaceful democratic process. They might have the connections and similar views with the Foreign Adviser.

Now, the Choice is yours, the peoples of Bangladesh .

The BanglaTimes NewYork September 7th, Vol 5; Issue 4

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[mukto-mona] Farce of American Democracy

When Watergate Scandal was divulged and the US President Richard Nixon, a Republican, resigned. Indian media was ga-ga about the US democracy forgetting its oppressive nature ( take the case of Angela Davis, the American communist).
Here is another episode of farcical democracy which actually is dictatorship of neocons.
Sankar Ray

Update: Democracy Now!'s Amy Goodman, Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar Released After Illegal Arrest at RNC (http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2008/9/1/update_democracy_now_s_amy_goodman_sharif_abdel_kouddous_and_nicole_salazar_released_after_illegal_arrest_at_rnc)
Democracy Now!'s Amy Goodman, Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar Released After Illegal Arrest at RNC
Goodman Charged with Obstruction; Felony Riot Charges Pending Against Kouddous and Salazar
ST. PAUL--Democracy Now! host Amy Goodman and producers Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar have all been released from police custody in St. Paul following their illegal arrest by Minneapolis Police on Monday afternoon.
All three were violently manhandled by law enforcement officers. Abdel Kouddous was slammed against a wall and the ground, leaving his arms scraped and bloodied. He sustained other injuries to his chest and back. Salazar's violent arrest by baton-wielding officers, during which she was slammed to the ground while yelling, "I'm Press! Press!," resulted in her nose bleeding, as well as causing facial pain. Goodman's arm was violently yanked by police as she was arrested.
On Tuesday, Democracy Now! will broadcast video of these arrests, as well as the broader police action. These will also be available on: www.democracynow.org
Goodman was arrested while questioning police about the unlawful detention of Kouddous and Salazar who were arrested while they carried out their journalistic duties in covering street demonstrations at the Republican National Convention. Goodman's crime appears to have been defending her colleagues and the freedom of the press.
Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher told Democracy Now! that Kouddous and Salazar were arrested on suspicion of rioting, a felony. While the three have been released, they all still face charges stemming from their unlawful arrest. Kouddous and Salazar face pending charges of suspicion of felony riot, while Goodman has been officially charged with obstruction of a legal process and interference with a "peace officer."
Democracy Now! forcefully rejects all of these charges as false and an attempt at intimidation of these journalists. We demand that the charges be immediately and completely dropped.
Democracy Now! stands by Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar and condemns this action by Twin Cities' law enforcement as a clear violation of the freedom of the press and the First Amendment rights of these journalists.
During the demonstration in which the Democracy Now! team was arrested, law enforcement officers used pepper spray, rubber bullets, concussion grenades and excessive force against protesters and journalists. Several dozen demonstrators were also arrested during this action, including a photographer for the Associated Press.
Amy Goodman is one of the most well-known and well-respected journalists in the United States. She has received journalism's top honors for her reporting and has a distinguished reputation of bravery and courage. The arrest of Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar and the subsequent criminal charges and threat of charges are a transparent attempt to intimidate journalists.
Democracy Now! is a nationally-syndicated public TV and radio program that airs on over 700 radio and TV stations across the US and the globe.
Video of Amy Goodman's Arrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ
Video of Nicole Salazar's Arrest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jreRSEQ_yg

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[ALOCHONA] Was Bangabandu like Castro of Cuba?

Yeah but Bangladesh would then have highest Literacy Rate in the world like Cuba and would not have been one of the poorest country on earth either.

Cuba is 6 times richer than Bangladesh, Education and Medical is free, Un-employment Rate is near Zero, Housing is free, nobody is poor in Cuba and has more Ph.Ds, Physicians, Surgeons and Engineers per Capita than any other country on earth. Actually, Cuba lends her Physicians and Engineers to friendly countries for free. Do we have any Physicians and Engineers to lend?

If he was like Castro, his departure was the biggest tragedy Bangladesh had faced and his Assassins were the biggest Enemies of Bangla.

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, ezajur <ezajur.rahman@q8.com> wrote:

Had Mujib lived he would have continued as a dictator - not like
Mussolini (come on!) but as a Fidel Castro (bad enough!)

Though after seeing all the pompous AL middlemen strutting around in
their black waistcoats on National Mourning Day, as if all their
years of lies and thievery were vindicated, made me feel that we
should call them - the Black Coats, quite a Fascist term!

Pity our poor country. Even our heros are killers or thieves.

--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, mahathir of bd
<wouldbemahathirofb d@...> wrote:
>
> Reading mujib's lectures and seeing his failure na d fate, it
seems to me that Mujib was a boss, not a leader.
>
> Becuase leaders never loss there popularity to such a low level
that Mujib lost.
>
>
>
>
> আল্লাহ যাকে যখন ইচ্ছা
ক্ষমতা দান করেন,মাইনাস টু
ফরমুলায় তাই হাসেন
> http://www.microsco piceye.blogspot. com/
>
> --- On Fri, 8/15/08, abid bahar <abidbahar@. ..> wrote:
>
> > Bangabandu, Vs. Mousalini of Italy, Striking Similarities: Please
Read!
> Abid Bahar
>
> Bangabandu's Fourth Amendment is only the tip of the form of
his "dictatorship. "(1) There are more details, the use of Mujib
dress, Mujib Bahini, Lal bahini, Rakhi bahini and other paramilitary
forces, the extreme hero-worship tendency among his followers,
indiscriminate killing of the opponents, arresting even the elderly
statesman like Bhasani, favouratism to its party members, and so
many other similarities with Mousalini, the Italian leader and
with Spain's Francisco that when I found out, I personally was
shocked (I was a former Mujib -lover)and have been writing eversince
about the sickness.
>
> I asked myself, howcome there are so many similarities in a
country far away from Europe. The answer I found is in political
Science such a political trend is identified
as Fascism. Mousalini even did similar things like Bangabandu did,
the latter standing in the parliament, declared that he
couldn't use "Lal Ghora,"which he actually did but he wanted it to
be more severe on the opponents.
>
> There are also many similarities between Bangabandu's BAKSAL and
other Third World Fascists as Sadam's socialist bath party, the
Sheikh boys (Mujib's Chalara) carrying guns at the university, and
now Africa's Mugabe a former freedom fighter, Idi Amin, another
freedom fighter turning into a Fascist, it is unthinkable. Unlike
them, after the 7th March Speech, Bangabandu actually collaborated
with the Pak Army send Rao Farman Ali to Islamabad to save Pakistan
and later was fooled and surrendered and stayed the entire period in
Pakistan. He never talked about why did he surrender. If
Bangabandu's AL didn't have the theoritical backing/blessings from
our intellectual West Bengali and the Delhi based Dadas that AL is
a "progressive force", civil society, fighting against Nizami, and
that Bangabandu the father etc, etc.propaganda via the pro-Indian
Bangladeshi powerful medias as Daily Star and Prothom Alo etc,
he would be officially discredited as
> one of the fighters for democracy who betrayed the nation to turn
himself into a dictator and was killed similarly as Mousolini. In
Europe the above type of people are classified as the Fascist
leaders. They are discredited in the textbook for committing
excesses.
>
> It is true, mentioned in the Abul Mansur Ahamed's Amer Dhaka
Rajnitir Ponchas Botscher and in Azizul Karim's work "From Awami
League to BAKSAL" that Bangaban du "did not have a clear idea about
the difference between party and the state. This became clear even in
1956-57 when he deferred with the then Chief Minister Mr. Ataur
Rahman Khan. Mr. Khan wanted to keep the administration totally
neutral. He knew that if the administration were brought under the
party control then it would be difficult to run the administration
efficiently. But Sheikh Mujib refuted his contention and said, "The
administration has to accept party domination. Not only that
administration will just help and assist the party to execute its
policies, but the administration will also be helping in increasing
its influence among the people". Mr. Ataur Rahman Khan had to
surrender to Sheikh Mujib as he was then considered very powerful in
the party. Thus during this time Sheikh Mujibur
> Rahman as the Minister of Commerce and Industries indulged in
rampant corruption, nepotism and misuse of power. He used his power
in giving out permits, licenses, bank loans, and sanction to
establish industries to people who were loyal to him and his
cronies."(2) These were the early signs of the then Mujib's Fascist
tendencies.
>
> For the sake of knowledge, Social Scientists have to identify this
trend and locate the father of this trend in Bangladesh. It was this
type of extremism in Italy that led to Mousalini's death, and the end
of Francisco. Like Musolini, to unite people in the independent
Bangladesh Bangaband u also used extreme nationalism causing the
alienation of the tribals.
>
> Hasina carries the legacy of Bangabandu. Hasina's AL with its
Shaschasevok bahini and its alliance of parties (which is
practically the BAKSAL) continues the trend of anarchy.
>
> Like Bangabandu, Hasina also gives more importance to the party
interest to gain power than give importance to national
interest. Hasina' s year round hartal to tire the nation, caused the
cancellation of 1996 election that led to the first coming of the
care-taker government and again in 2007 the chaos led to 1/11 and
the army backed caretaker government and the uncertainity in the
nation's life.
>
> (1) Please check the following videos to see that until this trend
is not discredited, Bangladesh will have no future!
> It is infactious, nowadays everybody is doing it.
>
> (2) I want the readers to please check the historic similarities
between Bangabandu Mujib and Mosoluni. We live in an independent
country, the Fascist chaos of madness against order must be stopped.
Bangabandu should be given credit for what he deserve but his fascist
tendency should be identified and discouraged as being regressive to
Bangladesh's future development.
>
> Videos on party initiated violence in Bangladesh:
>
>

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[ALOCHONA] How Bangladesh should react to increasing influence of Islam

Mr. Smarty Pants Tabrejee,

Except for a small minority of the West, who are crazy Missionaries, nobody wants to convert a Moslim in to Christian. I emigrated to USA in 1973, no Missionary has come to my house to convert me to Christianity so far. You are a One Eyed Crook, not Farida Majid.

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Shamset Tabrejee <shamsettabrejee@gmail.com> wrote:

i can see the other religions are also in the field. west taught the writer so beautifully that he became one-eyed.

On 8/29/08, Farida Majid <farida_majid@ hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Anis saheb,

        I will comply with your request to explain the Qura'anic verse. Explicating the language of the Qur'an is always a pleasure, and in this case there could an additional reward of exposing the nature of falsehood, i.e., the basic premise of your mischievous piece. But I humbly refuse to engage in any "point by point" argument as per your invitation.

      Wa la talbisoo alhaqqa bilbaTili wa taktumoo alhaqqa wa antum t'alamoona [2:42]
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).

       The verb root 'labasa' or 'cover' gives rise to other words such as 'lebaas' meaning cloth or clothes. So, here, 't-albisoo alhaqqa' meaning 'covering or cloaking the truth' indicates a strong sense of intentionality. In ...bil baTili ..., 'bi' is a frequently used preposition in Arabic most often translated in English as 'with'. The word 'baTil' can have many nuanced meanings such as 'falsehood', 'illegal' 'unjustified' 'harmful' etc.

       The verse, therefore, is more than a simple interdiction against lying. It captures the act of deceitful men succinctly and cautions against indulging in telling the worst kind lies -- that which cleverly and intentionally conceals the truth in order to cause unjustified harm. Your article, along with some of the Jamaati-style propaganda, is the best example of what the Qur'an has explicitly forbidden us to do.

      Your knowledge of Islam is indeed very poor otherwise you would not have used the word 'Islam' so indicriminately to describe such a variety of things ranging from dishonest political posturing, political propaganda, misogynistic politics and even the Arabic language of the Qur'an.

        To say that almost all Islam-'ponthi' people were against the independence of Bangladesh is one of the most insulting remarks to the sovreignty of Bangladesh, to the general populace of this populous country, and it is surely one of the most sinful lies one can possibly utter! It is also an unforgivable insult to the religion of Islam in Bangladesh.

         The truth is only a handful of crooks were involved in heinous activities during the 1971 War of Liberation intent on preventing the independence from Pakistan. And these crooks only pretended to be Pakistan's collaborators. They were much worse than that, and unfortunately they are still with us. Any good Muslim, anywhere in the world, would hesitate to call them co-religionists.

         Secularism, by the way, is a constitutional issue. It protects the rights of religions especially in a multicultural, multireligious country like Bangladesh.

         Thanks.

         Farida Majid






To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: dr_anisur_rahman@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:30:54 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: How Bangladesh should react to increasing influence of Islam

Dear Ms. Farida Majid,

It seems to me that your e-mail address has been hacked becuase it
looks unusual to me that a secularist like you are quoting from from
Quran. If it is not hacked, then the assumption I made in my article
that influence of Islam is increasing amoung Bangladeshis is true.

I do not know what the verse you mentioned means. My knowledge about
Islam is almost nil. Please give us a translation of it.

I will higly appreciate if you kindly let me know what are the
falsehoods I am trying to spread in my article. It contains 11
points and if you identify the point(s) you have question about, then
I will try to clarify my position.

Regards.

Anis

--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@ ...>
wrote:
>
>
> How Bangladesh should react to such wicked exercise in
indecent exposure of lies?
> We should remind ourselves of the Qur'anic caution:
>
> Wa la talbisoo al-Haqqa bi alBaTili wa taktumu al-Haqqa wa
antum t'alamoona.
>
> --Sura
Baqarah, verse 42
>
> May Allah save us from such spread of falsehoods
that this author is spreading.
>
> -- Farida Majid
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Alochoks,
>
> Like elsewhere in the world, the influence of religion is
increasing in Bangladesh. You will hardly find any mosque in Dhaka
in Friday which can provide space for all those who come to pray.
The spread of Hijab is also noticeable. Religion based political
parties are expanding their support base. It has posed a risk for
the country because countries like India are trying to create a
fundamentalist image of Bangladesh and using the rising Islam as a
tool for that. What should we do in this situation? I tried to
analyse it in my article published at:
>
> http://www.sonarban gladesh.com/ article.php? ID=235
>
> Please share your views on this critical issue.
>
> Regards.
>
> Anis
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[ALOCHONA] How Bangladesh should react to increasing influence of Islam

Sir,

You are confusing Secularism with Anti Islamism. Your own Moslim Brothers in Canada, USA and Western Europe love Secularism because all it means is that ...

* State would not impose any religion on citizens,

* no laws would be made to please one religion or the other,

* all are free to practice, whichever religion they want,

* all have Freedom of Speech & Expression and Human Rights of all are protected.

Please explain, why what's good for your brothers abroad and has created a better society than ours is no good for your country?

Why should ...

* Wife Beatings be allowed?

* Honor Killings, Female Killings, Female Infanticide, Female Fetal Abortions with the help of Ultra Sound Machine to learn the gender of Pregnancy ahead of time should be allowed?

* You people be allowed to bomb and kill each other or Non Moslims?

* You people should be allowed to impose ancient and in some cases out-dated and obsolete Islamic Shriyah on people without their approval?

* Borqah the Mini Tent be worn by our Women, when we see no practical need of it since we are no more like Bedouin Savages of 7th Century, who used to get turned-on looking at face of a female and used to start raping her?

If you have this problem, you should be sent to Mental Hospital. Why should all of us change just because of you are still a Savage Brain, sir?

If you want to be treated by Shriyah Law Punishments, we would be glad to execute your beheading for rape and murder but you are dreaming that you would be able to impose your Savage Talibani System here. Wake up, this is 21st Century, not 7th ...!

Clock moves forward, not backwards.

--- On Sun, 8/31/08, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@hotmail.com> wrote:

Despite of the subject/points for and against M. Anis and Ms Farida Majid, I have the followings:

There is no option for a true Muslim to be a secularist. Yeaa Kana budu – we only pray for you, Ibadat -which extend from personal life to statehood life.

Leading a multicultural life does not mean that a Muslim have to be secular.

Prophet Mohammed (sm) was not a secular, his shabi were not secular. Muslim Caliphates after prophet were not secular, how and from where some Muslims tend to be secular we do not understand. Western magnetic induced man and women can have such aqida which is far from Islam.
Secularist people can do all kinds of heinous act not the Islamist. Hitler Mussolini all was secular.

At the end I would request all the forum members to use modern English not the Victorian from which the west has shifted a long ago.
Thanks
Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
Kuwait

To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: farida_majid@ hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:28:55 -0400
Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: How Bangladesh should react to increasing influence of Islam

Dear Anis saheb,

        I will comply with your request to explain the Qura'anic verse. Explicating the language of the Qur'an is always a pleasure, and in this case there could an additional reward of exposing the nature of falsehood, i.e., the basic premise of your mischievous piece. But I humbly refuse to engage in any "point by point" argument as per your invitation.

      Wa la talbisoo alhaqqa bilbaTili wa taktumoo alhaqqa wa antum t'alamoona [2:42]
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).

       The verb root 'labasa' or 'cover' gives rise to other words such as 'lebaas' meaning cloth or clothes. So, here, 't-albisoo alhaqqa' meaning 'covering or cloaking the truth' indicates a strong sense of intentionality. In ...bil baTili ..., 'bi' is a frequently used preposition in Arabic most often translated in English as 'with'. The word 'baTil' can have many nuanced meanings such as 'falsehood', 'illegal' 'unjustified' 'harmful' etc.

       The verse, therefore, is more than a simple interdiction against lying. It captures the act of deceitful men succinctly and cautions against indulging in telling the worst kind lies -- that which cleverly and intentionally conceals the truth in order to cause unjustified harm. Your article, along with some of the Jamaati-style propaganda, is the best example of what the Qur'an has explicitly forbidden us to do.

      Your knowledge of Islam is indeed very poor otherwise you would not have used the word 'Islam' so indicriminately to describe such a variety of things ranging from dishonest political posturing, political propaganda, misogynistic politics and even the Arabic language of the Qur'an.

        To say that almost all Islam-'ponthi' people were against the independence of Bangladesh is one of the most insulting remarks to the sovreignty of Bangladesh, to the general populace of this populous country, and it is surely one of the most sinful lies one can possibly utter! It is also an unforgivable insult to the religion of Islam in Bangladesh.

         The truth is only a handful of crooks were involved in heinous activities during the 1971 War of Liberation intent on preventing the independence from Pakistan. And these crooks only pretended to be Pakistan's collaborators. They were much worse than that, and unfortunately they are still with us. Any good Muslim, anywhere in the world, would hesitate to call them co-religionists.

         Secularism, by the way, is a constitutional issue. It protects the rights of religions especially in a multicultural, multireligious country like Bangladesh.

         Thanks.

         Farida Majid






To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
From: dr_anisur_rahman@ yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:30:54 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: How Bangladesh should react to increasing influence of Islam

Dear Ms. Farida Majid,

It seems to me that your e-mail address has been hacked becuase it
looks unusual to me that a secularist like you are quoting from from
Quran. If it is not hacked, then the assumption I made in my article
that influence of Islam is increasing amoung Bangladeshis is true.

I do not know what the verse you mentioned means. My knowledge about
Islam is almost nil. Please give us a translation of it.

I will higly appreciate if you kindly let me know what are the
falsehoods I am trying to spread in my article. It contains 11
points and if you identify the point(s) you have question about, then
I will try to clarify my position.

Regards.

Anis

--- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, Farida Majid <farida_majid@ ...>
wrote:
>
>
> How Bangladesh should react to such wicked exercise in
indecent exposure of lies?
> We should remind ourselves of the Qur'anic caution:
>
> Wa la talbisoo al-Haqqa bi alBaTili wa taktumu al-Haqqa wa
antum t'alamoona.
>
> --Sura
Baqarah, verse 42
>
> May Allah save us from such spread of falsehoods
that this author is spreading.
>
> -- Farida Majid
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Alochoks,
>
> Like elsewhere in the world, the influence of religion is
increasing in Bangladesh. You will hardly find any mosque in Dhaka
in Friday which can provide space for all those who come to pray.
The spread of Hijab is also noticeable. Religion based political
parties are expanding their support base. It has posed a risk for
the country because countries like India are trying to create a
fundamentalist image of Bangladesh and using the rising Islam as a
tool for that. What should we do in this situation? I tried to
analyse it in my article published at:
>
> http://www.sonarban gladesh.com/ article.php? ID=235
>
> Please share your views on this critical issue.
>
> Regards.
>
> Anis
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[ALOCHONA] UPI Asia - Random rule of law in Bangladesh

Random rule of law in Bangladesh

By Rater Zonaki
Column: Humanity or Humor?

Published: September 02, 2008

UPI Asia Online

http://upiasiaonline.com/Human_Rights/2008/09/02/random_rule_of_law_in_bangladesh/8404/

Rater Zonaki is the pseudonym of a human rights defender based in Hong Kong working at the Asian Human Rights Commission.

Hong Kong, China — The High Court finally compelled the military-controlled government of Bangladesh to release an imprisoned businessman on Aug. 28, after the authorities ignored the court's order for more than a week.

The army-led Joint Forces arrested Salman F. Rahman, a top businessman and former president of the Federation of Chambers of Commerce and Industries, on Feb. 4, 2007, under the Emergency Powers Rules-2007. He was subsequently charged in seven cases of corruption and land-grabbing. Salman managed to receive bail in six of the cases during his prolonged detention, none of which has yet come to trial.

On Aug. 20 the High Court granted bail to Salman in the last case against him, in which he is accused of corruption in connection with the International Finance Investment and Commerce Bank. The prison authorities received the court order but took no action.

Salman's counsel, Barrister Rafique-ul Haque, a former attorney general of Bangladesh, had been contacting the prison authorities every day until Aug. 25, while the concerned officials kept assuring him that his client would be released on the following day. However, eight days passed and Salman was not released. Haque brought the issue to the notice of the court, which summoned the attorney general and held him accountable for failing to release the prisoner.

On Aug. 28 Salman's counsel attempted to lodge a contempt-of-court complaint against the responsible officials. The court asked the attorney general to produce Salman before it within one hour, unless the top public servant wished to be summoned for contempt of court. The authorities soon released Salman from the Kashimpur jail after this strict intervention.

The day Salman was arrested, and at one point detained in the cantonment police station in Dhaka, this writer witnessed him moving around in the office of the police station, which was surrounded by police and other forces. In contrast, the poor who are regularly arrested by members of the same forces face radically different treatment.

A person like Salman F. Rahman, who could afford to pay for attention at the Supreme Court level, was able to manage bail for the cases against him lodged by the military-controlled government. He had access to a high-profile lawyer, a former attorney general, and enough money to spend on arranging his bail. Still it took around one-and-a-half years for him to be freed.

Similar intervention from the High Court does not happen to the poor like Mohammad Ripon, a hosiery worker who earned only 3,000 takas (about US$44) per month, despite working hard from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. every day at a tiny factory in Dhaka. He lived in a dormitory in a slum adjacent to the Turag River.

One day before the state of emergency was imposed, when Ripon was walking home late in the evening, the Shah Ali police arrested him. He was detained in police custody overnight and was sent to jail via a Magistrate's Court that implicated him in a case of petty theft.

Mosharaf Hossain, owner of the factory where Ripon was employed, told this writer in front of the Dhaka Central Jail that he had been waiting for Ripon's release. Mosharaf reasoned that Ripon, the only hosiery producer of his factory, had no relatives except his elderly mother, who lived in a shelter in Pabna district, around 300 kilometers from the capital. Due to Ripon's detention Mosharaf's factory was closed, and there was no trusted substitute for him.

Mosharaf spent more than 4,000 takas (US$58) on a lawyer for five days, excluding his transportation and other expenditures, such as bribes to court staff so they would allow him to stand in the queue to present a petition for bail. Every day the lawyer assured him that Ripon would be released, and suggested that Mosharaf wait in front of the jail's gate to receive him. But Ripon did not come out.

Mosharaf was counting the money he spent, planning to deduct it from Ripon's salary once he was released. He needed his employee back for the survival of his hosiery factory. The 4,000 takas he had spent was more than one month's salary for Ripon; but it was not enough to secure his release or get the attention of the High Court.

Around 500,000 people were arrested as part of the government's crackdown under the state of emergency. Among them, about 200 are very rich, like Salman. Perhaps 1,000 could afford the cost of legal proceedings in the Supreme Court. On the other hand, the huge majority of those who were arrested cannot afford even the minimum expenses for justice at a district level court.

The victims of arbitrary arrest and detention have been facing unimaginable suffering while large amounts of money are wasted in the process of trying to obtain justice, apparently for nothing. It may require special research to expose the whole situation concerning economic losses incurred in the futile attempt to secure due legal process.

The courts of Bangladesh, especially the Supreme Court, seem unable to remedy this situation. The courts should be competent enough to address the serious problems the nation is now facing. It is not debatable that courts exist to ensure effective and prompt compliance with the law. They should ensure that no one, including legal professionals, is allowed to avoid or ignore their responsibilities. The century-old habits, attitudes and mindset of the judiciary must be changed if the nation is to be saved from the dirty ditch of arbitrary behavior and survive with dignity.

(Rater Zonaki is the pseudonym of a human rights defender based in Hong Kong working at the Asian Human Rights Commission. He is a Bangladeshi national with a degree in literature from a university in Dhaka. He began his career as a journalist in 1990 and engaged in human rights activism at the grassroots level in his country for more than a decade. He also worked as an editor for publications on human rights and socio-cultural issues and contributed to other similar publications.)

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[mukto-mona] UPI Asia - Random rule of law in Bangladesh

Random rule of law in Bangladesh

By Rater Zonaki
Column: Humanity or Humor?

Published: September 02, 2008

UPI Asia Online

http://upiasiaonline.com/Human_Rights/2008/09/02/random_rule_of_law_in_bangladesh/8404/

Rater Zonaki is the pseudonym of a human rights defender based in Hong Kong working at the Asian Human Rights Commission.

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Re: [ALOCHONA] Why Khaleda zia didnt register as Voter .

Mr. Alamgir,

When a woman gets married, in most cases in the world, she adopts the last name of her husband. So Hasina Begum became Hasina Wazed. Khaleda Begum or Khanam became Khaleda Zia. What's wrong with that? Even a semi-literate person knows that. Hasina Wazed vs Sheikh Hasina. How about Tarek Zia vs Tarek Rahman? The bottom line is all of them didn't use anything from outside in their surnames. They used after their fathers or husbands. In addition to using foul language, it looks like your intense and sickening hatred towards AL also made you dumb in this case.

The reality is you could not tolerate the criticism of Khaleda's multiple use of birth days. We feel your agony. Somebody named Mamun found out that 85% of the people use fake birth days. But when people change their birthdays, usually during SSC registration, they stick to that date all along their life. They use it in all their official business - admission to colleges, marriage, driver's license, employment etc. But in case of Khaleda – a former head of the country, she used five different dates for different official purposes. Most notoriously when she lost election to AL in 1996, she chose Aug 15 as her current birthday (I wish this remain her last one) just to hurt her political opponent. (What a nice gesture from our very Islamic leader to her opponent on her saddest day! right). What kind of example as a leader she and her pseudo-Islamic cohorts are setting for our young children? Not only that, she celebrates this fake birthday nationally with much fanfare: expensive and huge cakes and lots of sweetmeat. All newspapers carry the stories of her birthday celebration. Even though there is Islamic religious edict against celebrating birthdays, mother's day, valentines day etc., she may be the only leader other than Queen Elizabeth who celebrates birthday with this much publicity. But she is Khaleda, she is our queen, and she is above all.

May Allah remove hypocrisy from all of us this ramadhan,

Mohammad Musa Sarkar

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Faruque Alamgir" <faruquealamgir@...> wrote:
>
> Friends
>
>
> *Who can tell what is the real name of the "Kaney Khato Netri" Hasi apu :
> *
> 1. Her Passport through which she came to Bangladesh in 1981 mentioned* Mrs.
> Hasina Wazed*
>
> 2. After some years of hobnobbing(night ride in tinted glass pajero as
> quoted in Moudud's Book) with the
> greatest *Luichcha* of the *Millenium Ersaidda *she became Leader of the
> opposition in the name of
> *Sheikh Hasina(wazed gone into fush) .*
>
> 3. In her wedding records peoples say that she has been named as *Mossamat
> Hasina Begum.*
>
> Faruque Alamgir
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Mamun Rashid mamun123us@... wrote:
>
> > I took a sample of 100 person in the area where I work. 85% of them have
> > fake date of birth in the certificate! So, people does not pay much
> > attention to those who talk about the Khaleda's birth-day.
> >
> > -Mamun
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 8/18/08, shahidur rahman shaheed srshaheed374@...*wrote:
> >
> > From: shahidur rahman shaheed srshaheed374@...
> > Subject: RE: [vinnomot] Re: [ALOCHONA] Why Khaleda zia didnt register as
> > Voter .
> > To: vinnomot@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, August 18, 2008, 10:56 PM
> >
> > Dear Readers,
> > I am always intrigued why General Ziaur Rahman is not exposed. He was a
> > Pakistani at heart and a freedom fighter by accident.He was the villain in
> > destroying the spirit of liberation struggle in the first instance by
> > making Late Shah Azizur Rahman the Prime Minister of the country,a man who
> > opposed the emergence of Bangladesh in United Nations even during the last
> > days of war of independence as a faithful disciple of Late Zulfi,the villain
> > of the century.
> > Regards
> > Shaheed
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com; think_tank_habib@ yahoo.com;
> > nybangla@gmail. com
> > From: srbanunz@gmail. com
> > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:14:01 +1200
> > Subject: [vinnomot] Re: [ALOCHONA] Why Khaleda zia didnt register as Voter
> > .
> >
> >
> > It is 99.99 % correct.
> >
> >
> >
> > She has five "different" birthday, published in the daily "Sangbad" in 1997
> > and Khaleda Zia did not make any kind of official protest or lodged any case
> > against that news, though she was President of BNP as well as the leader of
> > the opposition in the Parliament, about that fact.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/18/08, *Md.Hasibul Hassan* <think_tank_habib@ yahoo.comthink_tank_habib@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear countrymen
> >
> > *Why Khaleda Zia Refused to register as Voter in Prison ? *
> > *Ans : Her birth certificateschool certificate shows diffrent date Of
> > birth than 15 Aug ! (Its not a Joke its a Fact)*
> > **
> > **
> > * Best regards*
> > **
> > * Habib*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check
> > it out! <http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx%20>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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[ALOCHONA] Make Dhaka more livable city

Lets raise Custom Duty on Cars and make it go as high as 700% until Traffic Congestion problem is resolved ...!

Reduction in import is good for the country and may cause development of local Automobile Industry because 'Need is Mother of Invention'. Bangladesh is a bigger market than Vietnam. If Peugeot of France can build an Assembly Plant there, would not some other Automobile Manufacturer of the world be building one in Bangladesh also, creating jobs?

Are not Indians manufacturing their own cars?

Who is stopping Bangladeshis?

--- On Sat, 8/30/08, Saiful Alam <shovan1209@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Day by day the number of private cars increases in Dhaka City. This is fuelled by the fact that the private cars have been given priority in transport planning. More private cars, however, means more pollution, both noise and air. Not only does a car dependent transport system hurt the environment; it also uses up a lot of fuel, making our economy heavily fuel dependent. Transport planning that focuses on private cars benefit only a tiny portion of the population while making it harder for the majority to get around. If the current transport plan will be implemented about 80% of the population will be neglected. For the 80% of the population that will be left out of the current transport plan one would need to develop pedestrian, fuel-free transport, and public transport infrastructure. For these we need to combine city planning with transport planning. Neighborhoods should contain everything needed for daily life such as, schools, jobs, shops, hospitals and entertainment. This would reduce the number of long trips between neighborhoods and lessen the volume of traffic on the roads. The short trips that would be needed within the neighborhoods walking and cycle rickshaws should suffice and if the infrastructure is improved it would increase speed and safety. For long distance travel out public transport must be developed. It is very necessary to control the number of private cars in order to create a better transport system as well as creating a more livable city.

Syed Siful Alam Shovan
shovan1209@yahoo. com

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