"The mother-to-be, Maya Devi, 28, was brought to the Kanpur Medical College hospital in northern Uttar Pradesh state by friends. She was suffering severe pain and complications that prevented her giving birth. But as she lay in a corridor outside the maternity wing, doctors - including the hospital's chief medical superintendent - reportedly told her that they would not be treating her because she was a Dalit, or untouchable."

'Untouchable' mother and baby die after high-caste Hindu doctors refuse to treat them

By RICHARD SHEARS - Last updated at 12:40pm on 25th April 2008

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=561954&in_page_id=1811

India's medieval caste system has claimed the lives of an "untouchable" mother and her newborn baby after high-caste doctors refused to treat her.

The sad case of the young mother - who died a day after her baby perished because medics wanted nothing to do with her - highlights the ongoing problems faced by the millions who are at the bottom of India's social ladder.

The mother-to-be, Maya Devi, 28, was brought to the Kanpur Medical College hospital in northern Uttar Pradesh state by friends.

She was suffering severe pain and complications that prevented her giving birth.

But as she lay in a corridor outside the maternity wing, doctors - including the hospital's chief medical superintendent - reportedly told her that they would not be treating her because she was a Dalit, or untouchable.

People in that caste have long been ostracised and forced into menial jobs such as cleaning toilets and sweeping the streets.

Laws banning discrimination have failed to make much difference in most cities.

Many high-class Hindus refuse to have any contact with untouchables, fearing they will contract diseases such as leprosy and TB.

Maya's baby was born in the corridor but died shortly afterwards. Her mother went into a coma.

Learning of her plight, Dr Kiran Pandey, head of the gynaecology unit, who was an hour's drive away, turned her car around and sped back to the hospital.

Refusing to listen to doctors who told her of Maya's caste, Dr Pandey brought the unconscious mother into the intensive care unit, where she had a heart attack.

Her life was saved, but then she went into cardiac arrest for a second time and could not be revived.

"We provided her with the best medicines and treatment once she was in the intensive care unit, but she succumbed to those two cardiac arrests," said Dr Pandey.

The hospital's principal, Dr Anand Swaroop, along with a district magistrate, has ordered a full inquiry into the case.

The doctors who refused to help her have been suspended as the investigation into their conduct continues.

With Regards

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[mukto-mona] (Uneducated) Sex and Sexism in Indian Schools

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Opinion/Sunday_Specials/Review/Sex_And_The_Classroom/articleshow/2986931.cm

Sex And The Classroom
27 Apr 2008, 0438 hrs IST,Jyoti Punwani

The boys in my class often pinch the girls' chests,"
says a seven-year-old to his elder sister. "But
there's nothing there," she replies, trying to sound
normal. "Of course there is, some girls' chests are so
big," says the second-grader.

"He goes under the chair and puts his hands up our
legs," says a nine-year-old, giggling, to her cousin,
referring to her classmate and neighbour. The offender
is asked, "Why do you do that?"

"I was just searching for my eraser that had fallen
under her chair. She refused to move her legs aside,"
he says, looking confused.

"You don't have what we do. You just have a hole
between your legs," gloats an 11-year-old to his
younger sister.

"I dropped my pencil," announces a 12-year-old boy in
class. "You dropped your pencil?" is the echo from his
classmates, accompanied by coughs and sniggers.
Pencil, of course, does mean something else here. "Ok
ok, I dropped my stationery pencil," says the boy. Pen
and pen-cap, pencil and pencil-box, pencil and
sharpener, these objects of everyday use suddenly
become passwords of an exciting and forbidden world.
"Pass the ball" is another line designed to send
everyone on the field into paroxysms.

While boys have been caught masturbating in school
loos, one eighth standard boy who stayed behind in
class during the break to do his homework, received an
education of another kind—the girls in the class drew
a nude female on the blackboard, with a penis coming
out of it.

"My friends would often talk about ejaculation when I
was in the fifth standard, and I used to wonder what
it was. The way they talked, I wanted to move away. It
all felt filthy," recalls a ninth standard student.
"In fact, one of my friends always gets strange dreams
when we talk about all this. She feels really
insecure. But she doesn't know whom to talk to about
it."

'Slut' and 'prostitute' are common abuses that boys
give girls, says a 13-year-old. Why isn't all this
being reported to teachers? "Because you immediately
become unpopular."

Considering the realities of Indian classrooms today,
the recent uproar of Maharashtra's MLAs against the
state government's plans to introduce sex education in
schools is based on an obsolete fear—pollution of
young minds. That the government has now frozen its
ambitious plans is unfortunate in a country where
sexual intelligence is abysmal. A gynaecologist who
has given talks on sex education to school and college
students says that there is an appalling ignorance in
adolescents and even the older youth about
menstruation, pregnancy and contraception. "Science
students at least learn about the reproductive system
at some stage. Arts students are absolutely ignorant."
In her practice, first in KEM hospital and then in her
own clinic, she has seen cases of teenage pregnancy
where the girl, unaware that she is already two months
pregnant, cannot even explain how it happened. "He did
something," is the common explanation.

She has found similar ignorance in newly married
couples, aged 18 or 19, who suddenly find themselves
expecting their first, unwanted child. "No one told us
what to do," they say when questioned about family
planning. Harsh Sadani, founder-member of MAVA (Men
against Violence and Abuse), who, along with other
activists, has been persuading the Maharashtra
government to introduce "sexuality education" in
schools, points to these statistics of the Family
Planning Association of India: 31% of girls and 33%
boys in the age group of 12-19 years get married,
while 60% of married girls (aged 15-19 years) have
unwanted pregnancies. 48% school boys and 39% girls
face some form of sexual abuse (ranging from
inappropriate touch, exposure to pornography or
violent sexual assault). The age of maximum abuse is
between nine and 12 years, according to the National
Study on Child Abuse 2007 by the Ministry of Women and
Child Development. "Children must learn to say NO,"
says Harsh. "Girls, of course, need to learn it, but
so do boys, to resist peer pressure to perform any
sexual act, watch blue films, or to go to sex workers.
They need to learn to respect each other's bodies."

The young have been vocal about their confusion in
sexual matters. "We should have someone to talk to,
who can penetrate our minds," says a 14-year-old. "We
cannot talk about this with our mothers. How do we
frame the question?" As a consequence, Mumbai Mirror's
'sexpert' column is a hit with school kids, who can
barely comprehend the situations being spoken about.
When caught reading the column, schools simply inform
the parents. The uncontrolled sexual energy of
adolescents leads to incidents that ruin lives. MMS
clips of unsuspecting school girls that are passed
around by their classmates and eventually released
into the internet space, is a cruelty that is birthed
in a male adolescent desperation. Schools need to
address such issues.

With sex in the air all around them, every
relationship is seen by schoolkids as unnatural, but
exciting. A seventh standard teacher says that she has
to think really hard when children in her class report
to her that so-and-so 'loves' so-and so. "I've told
them one can love many people; don't we all love our
family? Love is not a bad word." This is probably as
far 'sex education' can go in this country. But,
obviously, children need more guidance than this.
Mumbai's lawmakers simply do not comprehend the
enormity of the issue.

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Re: [mukto-mona] Paper pata vari korben na {Bangla}

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dear mr. ayub,
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[mukto-mona] Conviction of war criminal ....From The New Age, published on April 29,2008

Conviction of war criminal

It is a good initiative. One of the many ordinances approved by the military-controlled government suggested the banning of convicted war criminals from local polls. Now, the government should take initiatives to try and convict war criminals.
   The sooner, the better. This process must be completed before national polls are held. If for some reason this job cannot be completed within a short period, local polls can be deferred.
   The people of Bangladesh are not pressing for hurriedly organised local polls now.
   MH Khan
   On e-mail

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   The Local Government Ordinance 2008 kept a provision for a ban on the war criminals convicted by any local or international court or tribunal.
   Are the caretaker government and the EC happy in making such a vague ordinance without the trial of those criminals when millions of our people were killed, a large section of the intellectual community of Bangladesh were murdered, numerous women were tortured, raped and killed during the war?
   Gopal Sengupta
   Canada

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[mukto-mona] Why democracy has failed in third world country?, how to made sustainable democracy in Bangladesh

dear all,

I hv need some help for for writing pappers on d following topics,

"Why democracy has failed in third world country?"

"how to made sustainable democracy in

Bangladesh"

Best Regards

Engg. Mobarez

Farhan Husain <russoue@gmail.com> wrote:

The following link contains something which we (who care about BD IT) should
be concerned about. A UK journalist was invited to Bangladesh and was also
requested to invite some other journalist. When he assembled a team to come
to Bangladesh, he was notified that he and his team is no longer welcome to
Bangladesh. He was notified at the last moment. The following link contains
the incident in the journalist's own words:

http://markkobayashihillary.computing.co.uk/2008/02/a-basis-for-con.html

A Basis for considering Bangladesh
I'm not the kind of person who engages in revenge or sour grapes. I'm generally so laid back that people have been known to check my pulse, but something this week really upset me and without meaning to be disrespectful to the actors involved, I want to get it documented here for others to see.

As you might know from other blog entries, I'm on my way to the Philippines and India soon. I was planning to go straight from India to Bangladesh because the Bangladesh Association of Software and Information Services (Basis) is hosting its annual conference in Dhaka.

It is basically clashing with the Indians and their annual conference, so they might have considered the timing a little better, but I was going to attend the final two days of the conference and was planning to give a keynote speech on Bangladesh competing against other regions.

This wasn't something I was getting paid for. They were going to cover my flight and hotel expenses, but I wasn't getting paid to spend several days doing research on Bangladesh and then speaking out on their behalf. They had offered to give me some token cash though if I could encourage some other journalists from the UK to come along – all expenses paid – to see what Bangladesh has to offer for outsourcing.

So I spent some time digging around in my contact book and emailing people, and I got a few people interested in coming out to Dhaka. Then I started chasing them for details of the flights, the agenda, the speakers, etc… I had nothing for the past couple of weeks. Nobody wanted to talk to me. Then on Friday – just about a week before I am leaving for Asia – they sent me an email saying I don't need to give a speech any longer or invite foreign journalists.

Well, that was a bit upsetting. Not only had I blocked out the time to be in Bangladesh and turned down other work, but I thought that I was doing them a favour by not even asking to get paid for it. All I end up having to do is explain to everyone else I had talked to that the Dhaka trip is off. You don't even want to hear what the technology correspondent of one of the broadsheets had to say about the way Basis has behaved. It also means that I am stuck in India without a flight home and I'm presently researching my best options – either come straight home or use the opportunity to stop for a couple of days somewhere on the way back from India.

I'm not trying to write this as some form of revenge against Basis, but it's a statement of fact that it needs to reconsider how it makes the region more attractive. I was at the 36th Independence Day party in Kensington last year and the people from the High Commission explained to me their plans for promoting the hi-tech industry in Bangladesh. It seemed to be that they were going to hire the Barbican centre in London and then ship 30 or so company representatives over from Bangladesh to London to stand there and talk about what they are doing. They had asked me to get some UK companies along. I can remember saying that it was a ridiculous plan and that they should get some people who write about the industry over to Dhaka first, so some positive impression of the place can be seen in the media – then people who are interested will be a lot easier to speak to.

I thought that they had listened to some good – and free – advice, but clearly not.

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Research Assistant
Department of Computer Science
Erik Jonsson School of Engineering and Computer Science
University of Texas at Dallas

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[ALOCHONA] Why democracy has failed in third world country?, how to made sustainable democracy in Bangladesh

dear all,

I hv need some help for for writing pappers on d following topics,

"Why democracy has failed in third world country?"

"how to made sustainable democracy in

Bangladesh"

Best Regards

Engg. Mobarez

Farhan Husain <russoue@gmail.com> wrote:

The following link contains something which we (who care about BD IT) should
be concerned about. A UK journalist was invited to Bangladesh and was also
requested to invite some other journalist. When he assembled a team to come
to Bangladesh, he was notified that he and his team is no longer welcome to
Bangladesh. He was notified at the last moment. The following link contains
the incident in the journalist's own words:

http://markkobayashihillary.computing.co.uk/2008/02/a-basis-for-con.html

A Basis for considering Bangladesh
I'm not the kind of person who engages in revenge or sour grapes. I'm generally so laid back that people have been known to check my pulse, but something this week really upset me and without meaning to be disrespectful to the actors involved, I want to get it documented here for others to see.

As you might know from other blog entries, I'm on my way to the Philippines and India soon. I was planning to go straight from India to Bangladesh because the Bangladesh Association of Software and Information Services (Basis) is hosting its annual conference in Dhaka.

It is basically clashing with the Indians and their annual conference, so they might have considered the timing a little better, but I was going to attend the final two days of the conference and was planning to give a keynote speech on Bangladesh competing against other regions.

This wasn't something I was getting paid for. They were going to cover my flight and hotel expenses, but I wasn't getting paid to spend several days doing research on Bangladesh and then speaking out on their behalf. They had offered to give me some token cash though if I could encourage some other journalists from the UK to come along – all expenses paid – to see what Bangladesh has to offer for outsourcing.

So I spent some time digging around in my contact book and emailing people, and I got a few people interested in coming out to Dhaka. Then I started chasing them for details of the flights, the agenda, the speakers, etc… I had nothing for the past couple of weeks. Nobody wanted to talk to me. Then on Friday – just about a week before I am leaving for Asia – they sent me an email saying I don't need to give a speech any longer or invite foreign journalists.

Well, that was a bit upsetting. Not only had I blocked out the time to be in Bangladesh and turned down other work, but I thought that I was doing them a favour by not even asking to get paid for it. All I end up having to do is explain to everyone else I had talked to that the Dhaka trip is off. You don't even want to hear what the technology correspondent of one of the broadsheets had to say about the way Basis has behaved. It also means that I am stuck in India without a flight home and I'm presently researching my best options – either come straight home or use the opportunity to stop for a couple of days somewhere on the way back from India.

I'm not trying to write this as some form of revenge against Basis, but it's a statement of fact that it needs to reconsider how it makes the region more attractive. I was at the 36th Independence Day party in Kensington last year and the people from the High Commission explained to me their plans for promoting the hi-tech industry in Bangladesh. It seemed to be that they were going to hire the Barbican centre in London and then ship 30 or so company representatives over from Bangladesh to London to stand there and talk about what they are doing. They had asked me to get some UK companies along. I can remember saying that it was a ridiculous plan and that they should get some people who write about the industry over to Dhaka first, so some positive impression of the place can be seen in the media – then people who are interested will be a lot easier to speak to.

I thought that they had listened to some good – and free – advice, but clearly not.

--
Mohammad Farhan Husain
Research Assistant
Department of Computer Science
Erik Jonsson School of Engineering and Computer Science
University of Texas at Dallas

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RE: [ALOCHONA] Torture on female student DU : Why HR , fenminist Irine , Maleka, s kamal C silent no

To the Muslims, Qur'anic words are great deal. In other words we spend years perfecting the proper pronunciation of Qur'anic Arabic words. For the same reason we do not read the Qur'an in transliteration form in Bangla or in English because one cen never get the exact pronunciation. The word "Muslim" is a Qur'anic word and hence we need to look at the Qur'an for the correct pronunciation. Any one who can recite the Qur'an knows that the correct pronunciation is "Muslim".

Also, if any one reads major western publications (NY Times, Washington Times, CNN stories, any British newspaper or even Haaretz (the Israeli news paper) will agree with the fact that the word is written as "Muslim". Presently, that is the internationally accepted standardized version.

Why am I spending so much time explaining this? It is important that we instill pride in our children for what they are. If I am not proud of my heritage including my own name (which possibly in most cases are given by parents) then we will never develop the necessary confidence to face the reality of life. If the school is teaching wrong words then go and educate the school.

Lastly, the question has been raised: "Why there's so much corruption if all are Pious Muslims?
Answer: Can anyone with the slightest knowledge of Islam say that a corrupt person is a pious Muslim?

Aziz Ul Huq

To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: turkman@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:18:08 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Torture on female student DU : Why HR , fenminist Irine , Maleka, s kamal C silent no

Sir,

I went abroad for higher studies but all my cousins went to DU also and now their next generation is studying there. I'm sure Bangladesh would never become Pakistan but please tell me, why there's so much corruption if all are Pious Moslims?

Why I write Muslim wrong or Moslim?

Because no children in USA, U.K., Canada, New Zealand etc think it should be pronounced Muslim after they are told the correct pro-nunciation. They think, it should be written Moslim including my own children born and raised USA.

If you insist you are right, please find me a word in English Dictionary were 'U' sounds like 'O' as 2nd letter, where 3rd letter is 'S' ...!

There are only a few words, where 'U' sounds 'O' or 'OO' like Put, Pull, Bush, Push, Full, Bull etc. There are a lot words, we mis-pronounce in the Sub Continent replacing sound of full 'U' (yoo or you sound) with double 'O' wrongfully like in Dude, Rude, Stupid, Flute, Delute, etc.

You see, nobody pronounces Musharraf right here because 'Mush' is a word and it has no sound of 'O' in it. The same is true with all names, where we have used 'U' for sound of 'O'. 'Mullaah' is pronounced without any sound of 'O' in it because 'Mull' is a word and it has no sound of 'O' in it. Where the hell you people are adding an 'H' in the end is a mystery to me because in Arabic this word has no 'H' in the end.

Mullah is a word of Arabic that means Sail Boat Guy, not Mollaa. Since there's no word in English that starts with 'Qur' or in similar fashion, 'Quran' is being pronounced 'Qarane' here. without an 'O' sound. Write is Qoraan, and find them pronouncing it correctly all the time. Are we in to some kind of stupid game of making Westerners pronounce our words wrong, sir as an essential part of Islam?
If so, please provide me the qoutes proving your point in Qoraan or Hadith ...!]

Otherwise, please tell me, why as a Moslim I have to keep being embarassed of stupid things like these in gatherings of English Language Ph. D's, being one of them?

mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Turkman:

I am sorry but your letters are in most of the times extremely confusing and entails some previous grudges which require explaining as you intend the letters to be read by many. You also do not respond to constructive and data based responses to your letters and your letters are in most of the times based on irrational generalisations. I am now confident and as I had mentioned in my last letter that most likely you are an Indian national as your repeated spellings of Moslim (sometimes Moslem) suggest. Can you explain the picture a bit further? As an ex-Dhaka University student and a lawyer I cannot jump to conclusions about any fanaticism like you alwasy do. I do not support Hindu destroying Babri msoque and the so called Indian secularist Government and the people who had voted VJP to power remaining silent about it and I also do not support any form of atrocity in the name of religious fundamentalism. Bangladeshis will never vote any fanatic power like in India or in Pakistan but we are pious Muslims. If the atrocities were committed, then a full investigation should follow and you are right the Advisor should act. Pls refrain from antagonising and aggravating issues with foregone conclusions. Freedom of speech should be exercised diligently.

Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate

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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:49:13 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Torture on female student DU : Why HR , fenminist Irine , Maleka, s kamal C silent now?

How can they say anything?

All of them are Moslims and this is Islam in action in Dhaka University.

"Md. Aminul Islam" <aminul_islam_raj@yahoo.com> wrote:

dear all,

noticed it? All are silent?

noon today in protest against repression on journalists.

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সার-সংক্ষেপ
বিশেষ এজলাসে মিগ-২৯ দুর্নীতির মামলায় চার্জ শুনানি শেষে আইনজীবী ও স্বজনদের সঙ্গে সাবেক প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনা অনেক বিষয়ে কথা বলেন। বিভিন্ন সংবাদপত্রে প্রকাশিত তার বক্তব্যের কিছু অংশ নিচে দেয়া হলোÑ

আমার ওপর অত্যাচার-নির্যাতন চালিয়ে যদি আমাকে মৃত্যুমুখেও ঠেলে দেয়া হয়, আমি রাজনীতি থেকে সরে দাড়াবো না। আমি মৃত্যুর জন্য প্রস্তুত।

সরকার আমার রাজনীতি বন্ধ করার কে? আমার রাজনীতি বন্ধ করলে দেশের চৌদ্দ কোটি মানুষ করবে।

আদালতে এখন বিচারের নামে প্রহসন চলছে। যেনতেন রায় দিয়ে নির্বাচনে অযোগ্য ঘোষণার ষড়যন্ত্র চলছে।

আমাকে বাদ দিয়ে কিংবা জেলে রেখে আওয়ামী লীগ নির্বাচনে যাবে না, দলের প্রত্যেক নিবেদিতপ্রাণ-নেতাকর্মী-সমর্থকের প্রতি আমার এ আস্থা ও বিশ্বাস রয়েছে।
ড. কামাল দেশদ্রোহী ও জাতীয় বেইমান। দেশ বিরোধী সব ষড়যন্ত্রের পেছনে তার হাত রয়েছে। তিনি ১০২ কোটি কালো টাকা শাদা করেছেন। দেশবাসীর কাছে আমার আবেদন, ড. কামালের ষড়যন্ত্রের বিষয়ে সতর্ক থাকুন।

দেশের শীর্ষ দুর্নীতিবাজ বললে ড. কামালকেই বলতে হবে। তার ভূমিকা বরাবরই রহস্যজনক। তিনি সব কিছুতেই ছিলেন, আছেন এবং থাকবেন।

আমাদের দুর্নীতিবাজ বলা হলে এরা কি? এ সরকারই হচ্ছে নাম্বার ওয়ান দুর্নীতিবাজ।

জেল কর্তৃপক্ষ শনিবার হসপিটালে গিয়ে আমাকে চলেন যাই বলে আবার জেলে নিয়ে আসে। এটি মানবাধিকারের চরম লঙ্ঘন।

তোমরা ভয় পাও কেন? সংবাদপত্রেও বিধিনিষেধ আছে। আমি যা বলেছি তা সব ছাপা নাও হতে পারে।

(সাংবাদিকদের শেখ হাসিনার কাছ থেকে সরিয়ে দিতে চাইলে পুলিশ অফিসারদের উদ্দেশে সাবেক প্রধানমন্ত্রী। উল্লেখ্য, শেখ হাসিনার আশঙ্কা সত্য প্রমাণ করে প্রথম আলো ও ডেইলি স্টার পত্রিকা
ড. কামালের কালো টাকা শাদা করার বিষয়টি চেপে যায়।)

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[ALOCHONA] Moslim or Muslim - Linguistics & Phonics

Mr. Islam,

1. Its illogical to point-out use of wrong Grammar of Americans to get by wrong spelling of words by Moslims.

2. I had not mentioned that only Americans can not pronounce words correctly with our Spellings.

3. I can find your Muslim spelled, 'Moslem' in dictionaries but I guess, you couldn't find it.

4. I had no idea, 'settling the case' means, not fixing the problem and remaining adament that we do not mis-spell words.

5. I had no idea that some Hindu had tried to spell Moslim correctly before and this is why its now against our religion to do that.

6.Its very strange thinking of yours that we should not learn English Grammar. What would you call an Immigrant from Thailand, who doesn't want to learn Grammar of Bangla and wants to lecture Bangladeshi students as a Professor?

Sir,

In English word 'Daughter' the 'gh' is not pronounced because they forgot, how to pronounce 'KH' (like in Persian word 'KhoDaa'), which is pronounced by 'X' in all Cyrilic Languages of Europe. You see, Ancient Aryans used to pronounce it and its sill being pronounced correctly in Persian, 'dokhTar', meaning 'Daughter. Letter 'J' is also pronounced correctly in all Cyrilic Languages as 'Y' so, now you know, that names of all our ancient Prophets are pronounced correctly by them like, Joseph, Jonas, Jacob, John, Benjamin (BinYaameen), Joshua, etc.

Letter 'T' of ancient Aryan words in Indian languages can be found as 'D' or being pronounced like 'D' or vice versa in European languages.

Examples:

1. Persian 'PiDre', Spanish 'PaDre', Hindi 'PiTa', German 'fater', English 'father'.

2. Persian 'MauDer', Spanish 'MaDre', English 'Mother', German 'Mater', Hindi 'MaaTaa'.

mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Turkman:

Thank you for your response and I appreciate your effort in justifying your spelling. But I must note that it is my life-long habit as a lawyer and a journalist - not to engage in debates for which I do not hold any authoritative argument. Although I have been practising law around the globe including USA,UK, India,Nepal, Singapore, South Korea,Bangaldesh and Australia (details can be found by typing my name on any major search engine on internet) for almost two decades now and I studied at Dhaka University, Harvard and London Metrpolitan University and I do have a US citizen as a child and a British citizen as well as my child, I will base my arguments on well-founded logics and rationale:

Firstly, I believe that the Americans have distorted the English grammaer as per their tongue and we do not need to get into the arguments between Webster and Oxford dictionaries and we wonder why many of the Americans pronounce Iraq as I-Raq. It is difficult as always to transliterta a foreign word and that's why until 9/11 many in the west used pronounce Islam as Izlam and we are at least out of that now. I believe that you would agree to the fact that to pronounce many arabic words in their true form, we would require to use phonetic signs - at least that is my idea after spending a few years as a lecturere in TOEFL and IELTS and with the top most score possible in that field. I do not believe that we have to learn the grammar of pronouncing words even from native English speaking people even though we may find to catch up with the accent sometimes.

Secondly, I raised the issue as I constatlt noticed your abhorrance towards Islamic issues (if I am wrong - I apologise) and your irrational generalisations. I have noticed a trend of using Moslim instead of Muslim by the Indian bengali community Hindus and therefore I was trying to find further details about your roots. I had a similar discussion with a Canadian Bengali Hindu Indian genteleman on Al Jazeera and you can find the details on the Al Jazeera website.

Thridly, I have no doubt in believing that most of the Bangladeshis are honest, hard-wroking, peace-loving and easily convincable.They are very pious too. Most of our people are poor day-labourers who hardly have anything to do wih national level of corruption and with this gap, the crude, shrewd and clever smarter class expolit their simplicity. Our country is in the grip of a few law-lords and fanatics of every level. Look at our CJ taking side and giving his opinion about law which is a complete violation of Judge's conduct and our Advisor arranging that meeting. In issues of women's rights - we have not seen Ulemas or Islamic scholars sitting with the opponents and yet view-exchanging meetings are held. They are talking about our inheritance and no one has talked about referrendum. Simplicity often paves the way often oppression unfotunately. There are several other reasons as well. We can simply eradicate almost 80% of our administrative corruption from the Judiciary by computerising the whole system and save the mass from long-waiting lists created artificially by Peshkars and Sherestadars. You must agree that it is more difficult to produce a HSBC statement from Dhaka than a Janata Bank statement from Netrokona. Why? Technology also safe-guards against corruption. Do you think the western people are less corrupt because they are generally more honest - not wholly true! The system of law will catch up. We have no effective Ombudsmen system or Independent Compalint Commission for Banks and other institutions and our law-makers and leaders befool us by running out of Parliaments as someone called someone a name. The ruling class have embedded the idea of democracy in our minds and we are too boxed to see the flaws of democratic systems in poor countries.

Fourthly, the puzzle of the words - 'Muslim', 'Moslem', 'Mohammadean' was first borught forward in this sub-continent by Mr. DF Mulla - hindu jurist on Islamic law in his Muslim Law. Please read forewords of the book if you can find it. The book is weidely available in law libraries in Dhaka.

I refer to your explanation of Phoenetics: there are many developments being done to English wordings and foregn words are being introduced in the dictionary and the experts are still baffled about their pronouncing rules, eg., Bhindi.

It is true that the nearest rule should be - Mawslim - but that would make the language complicated. 'O' is pronounced as AU in almost all words. The most accepted spelling according to all major illustrated English dictionary is Muslim and that's why whenever we look for Moslim - the dictionaries will refer to Muslim. Please Read The Oxford English Dictionary second Edition - Volume X. We should not start new complications by adopting complicated issues which have already been settled.

I think this settles the issue.

Thank you.

Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate

To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
From: turkman@sbcglobal.net

Sir,

I went abroad for higher studies but all my cousins went to DU also and now their next generation is studying there. I'm sure Bangladesh would never become Pakistan but please tell me, why there's so much corruption if all are Pious Moslims?

Why I write Muslim wrong or Moslim?

Because no children in USA, U.K., Canada, New Zealand etc think it should be pronounced Muslim after they are told the correct pro-nunciation. They think, it should be written Moslim including my own children born and raised USA.

If you insist you are right, please find me a word in English Dictionary were 'U' sounds like 'O' as 2nd letter, where 3rd letter is 'S' ...!

There are only a few words, where 'U' sounds 'O' or 'OO' like Put, Pull, Bush, Push, Full, Bull etc. There are a lot words, we mis-pronounce in the Sub Continent replacing sound of full 'U' (yoo or you sound) with double 'O' wrongfully like in Dude, Rude, Stupid, Flute, Delute, etc.

You see, nobody pronounces Musharraf right here because 'Mush' is a word and it has no sound of 'O' in it. The same is true with all names, where we have used 'U' for sound of 'O'. 'Mullaah' is pronounced without any sound of 'O' in it because 'Mull' is a word and it has no sound of 'O' in it. Where the hell you people are adding an 'H' in the end is a mystery to me because in Arabic this word has no 'H' in the end.

Mullah is a word of Arabic that means Sail Boat Guy, not Mollaa. Since there's no word in English that starts with 'Qur' or in similar fashion, 'Quran' is being pronounced 'Qarane' here. without an 'O' sound. Write is Qoraan, and find them pronouncing it correctly all the time. Are we in to some kind of stupid game of making Westerners pronounce our words wrong, sir as an essential part of Islam?
If so, please provide me the qoutes proving your point in Qoraan or Hadith ...!]

Otherwise, please tell me, why as a Moslim I have to keep being embarassed of stupid things like these in gatherings of English Language Ph. D's, being one of them?

mufassil islam <mufassili@hotmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Turkman:

I am sorry but your letters are in most of the times extremely confusing and entails some previous grudges which require explaining as you intend the letters to be read by many. You also do not respond to constructive and data based responses to your letters and your letters are in most of the times based on irrational generalisations. I am now confident and as I had mentioned in my last letter that most likely you are an Indian national as your repeated spellings of Moslim (sometimes Moslem) suggest. Can you explain the picture a bit further? As an ex-Dhaka University student and a lawyer I cannot jump to conclusions about any fanaticism like you alwasy do. I do not support Hindu destroying Babri msoque and the so called Indian secularist Government and the people who had voted VJP to power remaining silent about it and I also do not support any form of atrocity in the name of religious fundamentalism. Bangladeshis will never vote any fanatic power like in India or in Pakistan but we are pious Muslims. If the atrocities were committed, then a full investigation should follow and you are right the Advisor should act. Pls refrain from antagonising and aggravating issues with foregone conclusions. Freedom of speech should be exercised diligently.

Mufassil Islam
Human Rights Advocate

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Re: [ALOCHONA] AL: Hunger strike deferred

Friends

Something fishy is going on. The judhdhang Dehi monobhab of the demo BALs is fading away !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May be the BAL smelling Khomotar Hatchani ?????

Faruque Alamgir

Ezajur Rahman <ezajur.rahman@q8.com> wrote:

AL defers hunger strike
to May 5
Courtesy New Age 28/4/08

The Awami League has deferred its token hunger strike programme to May 5.
The hunger strike was earlier scheduled for Tuesday.
The party presidium at a meeting Sunday night also decided to keep the hunger strike programme confined to the capital city instead of observing it across the country.
â€˜We have decided to shift our Tuesdayâ€™s hunger strike programme to May 5 following a request from the leaders of Supreme Court Bar Association as the elections of the association will be held on Monday and Tuesdayâ€™, the acting general secretary of AL, Syed Ashraful Islam told reporters after the meeting held at the Gulshan residence of acting party president Zillur Rahman.
He said that the meeting decided to observe the programme in the capital city only as activists living outside Dhaka did not get permission from the administration for the programme because of the ban on indoor politics there.
He, however, denied that the programme was deferred under pressure from the government.

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Re: [ALOCHONA] Hasina: Asks party not to contest polls without her

It is immaterial now whether or not Hasina, former Prime Minister, participates in the Bangladesh National Election. It would be her own decision. But does she think she is she above Law? She is being charged with corruption and for misappropriating large amount of public money. All she has now to do is to prove that she did not misappropriate and try to get out of the imprisonment in a hurry to participate in the ensuing election. It is no defense for her whether others also laundered money. She mentioned Dr. Kamal's name. Assuming that they did and she knew about their corruption as well while she was the Prime Minister, where does that put her in eyes of the Law - a corroborator, a comrade in crime? When the speeder tells a traffic cop to save his/her skin that others were also speeding. All that the cop has to says: "But I got you."
To balance my own act as an impartial observer from abroad I may ask a mother: does she know where her child is at 11 o'clock at night? Did Mrs. Zia know what her sons were doing ?

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From: Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:31:20 AM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Hasina: Asks party not to contest polls without her

Do not worry. Awami League had participated all elections in past (except 2007). They will participate even Sk. Mujib tells them from heaven not to. You show them some money (as Ershad did in 1986) and carrots, they will jump on it. They did not participate 2007 election because they thought the CTG would install them in power like 1996 by Justice (Retd) Habibur Rahman.

Toronto

Ezajur Rahman <ezajur.rahman@ q8.com> wrote:

Hasina asks party not to contest polls without her
Says she will not retire from politics
Courtesy New Age 28/4/08

The detained Awami League president Sheikh Hasina on Sunday said neither her party would participate in any polls without her nor she would retire from politics under any pressure.
Hasina, also a former prime minister, said this as she talked with her lawyers and relations in a makeshift courtroom on the Jatiya Sangsad complex after appearing in the special judge's court for hearing in the framing of charges in the MiG-29 corruption case.
'I have been asked to quit politics; but I will not retire from politics under any pressure,' she said.
'The people will decide whether I will be in politics,' said Hasina, adding that it would not be wise for her to quit politics as the people were being repressed.
Her counsel Quamrul Islam, also the acting general secretary of the city Awami League, told reporters after the talks that the party chief had advised the party leaders not to participate in any national elections without her.
Quamrul Islam, Sahara Khatun and Abdul Mannan briefed reporters after coming out of the court and they had one-to-one consultations with Hasina during the talks, for 20 minutes as allowed by the court.
'We asked our leader about the party's stand if she was barred from taking part in elections and she said the Awami League would not participate in any national elections without her,' Quamrul said.
Referring to the military-controlled government, the former prime minister said, 'They do not mean trial in any case, but want to convict me at any cost to bar me from taking part in the elections.'
Hasina said that she had challenged the Anti-Corruption Commission's notification asking her wealth statement and the High Court declared it illegal saying that the law was faulty. The commission amended the law after the High Court verdict which the chief justice struck down.
'If the law was not faulty, then why was it amended? If this is the independence of the judiciary, how can we expect justice?'
When the lawyers called her attention to the remarks of the Gana Forum president, Kamal Hossain, where he had said the people who were calling for movement to free the detained offenders should to be tried as their associates, Hasina said, 'How can he [Kamal] speak against corruption after whitening Tk 102 crore?'
'What are the sources of the money?' Hasina said.
'I ensured rice for people for Tk 10 a kilogram and oil for Tk 40 a litre and now they are selling for Tk 40 and Tk 120… It proves who are the corrupt,' she said.

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