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Sunday, August 30, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: The Wall



You either follow the law or you don't. I am for legal immigration so that everybody gets a fair chance to migrate to the US on their merits regardless of their skin color and origin. What Hispanics are capable of doing in the US is not the question. A person from any given country can do that kind of job too unless you think that they can't. Would not that be considered as a racist prejudice? How many low caste Hindus did you invite into your living room last time you visited Bangladesh? Talk is cheap, my dear friend! I know exactly your kinds.
 




On Sunday, August 30, 2015 7:45 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
There is a dilemma here. Hispanic immigrants are good when one needs them for jobs that no other groups of immigrants will do. House keeping, mowing lawn, and construction are the examples. They are even cutting fish and meat for the  Asian and African immigrants in the so called Indian and Vietnamese grocery stores. They have kept cost of living much lower than normally we would expect. That way they are contributing to American economy positively.  I don't understand how the Hispanics are mediocre. To me it sounds like a racist comment. 
Any way it is all politics. Policy makers know well when they will need more or when they need to stop influx although for logistical reasons it would be very difficult to accomplish the latter. Policy makers also know why amnesty is a more practical solution in economic sense. 

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On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Countries were created on the basis of the walls. Pink Floyd and Reganites would never pay a dime for resettling the Hispanics and Mexicans, who have been crossing the border in droves. The liberals can talk the talk but will never walk the walk. Regan slogan was a mere rhetoric than real intention. If he were alive, he would not have gone for another amnesty for Mexicans and Hispanics. If US do another one, soon the country would be overwhelmed by Hispanics. And, in no time, it will be controlled by mediocre Hispanics. If wall has to go, lets open it for everybody and not only for the people, who can jump over fence faster.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:59 AM, 'Khoniker Othithee' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:
From the get go want to make it clear here that neither I have formented a opinion on the Trump's campaign strategy to call for fencing out Mexican , nor just another brick in the wall(pink Floyd).
But I can't help observing that, ever since Ronald regan uttered in Berlin "go tear down the wall" , the 'wall' seems to have smeared into the psychee of republic party, in one way other. Some conservative juno dubbed that as regan at his best. Now the wall has come to a full circle with another repub calling to put just that.

Won't be hilarious if and when repub decided to bang their head to figure their out what they actually want they to do with about wall.
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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: The Wall



I think there is a clear need for different countries in the world; the world is not yet ready for no borders (walls). The way I see it, the world should not even have the kind of UN that we have right now. The world should have a union of civilized nations, in every one of which there would be reasonable standards of human and citizenship rights. Right now, many of the UN members do not fall into the category of "civilized nations."

However, I think the Hispanics are among the best kind of people that are coming to the USA. They are certainly better than the religious idiots/fanatics that are coming from Asia and Africa.

Sukhamaya Bain

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On Saturday, August 29, 2015 1:05 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
There is a dilemma here. Hispanic immigrants are good when one needs them for jobs that no other groups of immigrants will do. House keeping, mowing lawn, and construction are the examples. They are even cutting fish and meat for the  Asian and African immigrants in the so called Indian and Vietnamese grocery stores. They have kept cost of living much lower than normally we would expect. That way they are contributing to American economy positively.  I don't understand how the Hispanics are mediocre. To me it sounds like a racist comment. 
Any way it is all politics. Policy makers know well when they will need more or when they need to stop influx although for logistical reasons it would be very difficult to accomplish the latter. Policy makers also know why amnesty is a more practical solution in economic sense. 

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On Aug 29, 2015, at 8:29 AM, Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Countries were created on the basis of the walls. Pink Floyd and Reganites would never pay a dime for resettling the Hispanics and Mexicans, who have been crossing the border in droves. The liberals can talk the talk but will never walk the walk. Regan slogan was a mere rhetoric than real intention. If he were alive, he would not have gone for another amnesty for Mexicans and Hispanics. If US do another one, soon the country would be overwhelmed by Hispanics. And, in no time, it will be controlled by mediocre Hispanics. If wall has to go, lets open it for everybody and not only for the people, who can jump over fence faster.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:59 AM, 'Khoniker Othithee' via Bangladesh Progressives <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com> wrote:
From the get go want to make it clear here that neither I have formented a opinion on the Trump's campaign strategy to call for fencing out Mexican , nor just another brick in the wall(pink Floyd).
But I can't help observing that, ever since Ronald regan uttered in Berlin "go tear down the wall" , the 'wall' seems to have smeared into the psychee of republic party, in one way other. Some conservative juno dubbed that as regan at his best. Now the wall has come to a full circle with another repub calling to put just that.

Won't be hilarious if and when repub decided to bang their head to figure their out what they actually want they to do with about wall.
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বঙ্গবন্ধু তার গুরুজন রাজনীতিবিদ বিশেষ করে মাওলানা ভাসানীকে ভীষণ শ্রদ্ধ্যা করতেন। যদিও মাওলানা ভাসানী স্বাধীনতার পর রাষ্ট্রপরিচালনায় বঙ্গবন্ধুর নতুন সরকারকে সহযোগিতা না করে , উল্টো 'হক কথা' নামক একটি 'ট্যাবলোয়েড' পত্রিকা বের করে 'সরকারবিরোধী' মিথ্যা প্রচারে নেমে পরেছিলেন। তার পরেও বঙ্গবন্ধু মাওলানা ভাসানীর প্রতি বিরাগভাজন হন নি ,বরঞ্চ শ্রদ্ধ্যা জানাতে টাঙ্গাইলের সন্তোষে তার বাড়ী পর্যন্ত গিয়েছিলেন। তাইতো বঙ্গবন্ধু জাতিরজনক , সর্বকালের সর্বশ্রেষ্ঠ বাঙালি।
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On Friday, August 28, 2015 7:39 AM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote:


'শেখ হাসিনার কাছ থেকে ধর্ম শিক্ষা নিন'

সর্বশেষ আপডেট : August 26, 2015, 7:31 pm

 
দিনকাল রিপোর্ট: প্রধানমন্ত্রী শেখ হাসিনার কাছ থেকে ধর্মের বিষয়ে শিক্ষা নিতে আহ্বান জানিয়েছেন স্বরাষ্ট্রমন্ত্রী আসাদুজ্জামান খান কামাল।

তিনি বুধবার বিকেলে জাতীয় প্রেসক্লাবে এক আলোচনায় আলেম-ওলামাদের প্রতি এ আহ্বান জানান। অনুষ্ঠানটির আয়োজক বাংলাদেশ ওলামা মাশায়েখ ঐক্যজোট।

মন্ত্রী বলেন, 'ধর্ম নিয়ে অনেক অপপ্রচার হয়েছে। আওয়ামী লীগ নাকি ধর্ম মানে না। আমাদের নেত্রী (শেখ হাসিনা) কীভাবে ধর্ম পালন করেন, তার থেকে আপনার শিক্ষা নিন।'

শেখ মুজিবের ৪০তম শাহাদাতবার্ষিকী উপলক্ষ্যে বায়তুল মোকাররমে ৪০ খতম কুরআন খনি করে আয়োজক সংগঠন। পরে তারা প্রেসক্লাবে এই আলোচনা সভা ও মিলাদ মাহফিল করে।

সংগঠনের কেন্দ্রীয় সভাপতি মুফতি মাওলানা আব্দুল হালিম সিরাজীর সভাপতিত্বে আলোচনায় আরো উপস্থিত ছিলেন- ধর্মমন্ত্রী অধ্যক্ষ মতিউর রহমান।

এই অনুষ্ঠান থেকে বেরিয়ে স্বরাষ্ট্রমন্ত্রী বান্দরবানের থানচিতে বিজিবির ওপর হামলাকারী মিয়ানমারের বিচ্ছিন্নতাবাদী আরাকান আর্মিকে যেভাবেই হোক উৎখাত করা হবে সাংবাদিকদের জানান।

তিনি বলেন, প্রয়োজনে যৌথ বাহিনী গঠন করে তাদের বিরুদ্ধে অভিযান পরিচালনা করা হবে। ভবিষ্যতে তারা যেন আর কোনো ধরনের পরিস্থিতি সৃষ্টি করতে না পারে, সেজন্য এই অভিযান চালানো হবে।


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