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Thursday, October 1, 2015

[mukto-mona] Fw: Outstanding Sheikh Hasina !!!!





On Thursday, October 1, 2015 11:47 PM, Muhammad Ali <manik195709@yahoo.com> wrote:







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Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?



One can be rightfully despondent about the quality of political leadership throughout the world. Where have all the stalwarts gone? In the case of Bangladesh, it appears to be a matter of more than incompetence, though the latter trait in our political leadership is all too evident just about everywhere.  
    Sadly, politics of power trumps everything else: it has for a long time. In that fact lies some of the answers to the many apparently contradictory pronouncements of public policy. Even our cherished ideals of secularism and pluralism have fallen victim to politics. Have you heard a politician talking about secularism of late? But we do hear a lot of talk about religion: that Islam is a religion of peace, or that no attack on religious sentiments will be tolerated. We hear noises about communal harmony, but action to nurture it remains singularly absent. We hear with increasing frequency politicians saying Insha-Allah. I have absolutely no problem with anyone expressing his personal faith in God. But politicians, especially those in power, are supposed to be serving in the interest of the state, which, incidentally is supposed to be secular. A politician acquires a position of power not because God puts him there but because people want him there. Last, have you noticed or thought about the name of our airport in Dhaka? It says, in huge alphabets strung over the crown of the airport: Hazrat Shah Jalal International Airport. Now, the airport is a state enterprise, and is in fact one the biggest state-owned structures in the land. Why adore it with the name of an Islamic saint ( Again I fully recognize a private person's right to adore a saint, but that is beside the point here). In each case, the politicians in power play to the gallery, to the sentiment of the Muslim majority in the country. Secularism goes out of the window.
    I like Anisur Rahman's allusion to reaping what you sow. The most important kind of sowing, though,  that has been going on since the early days of Bangladesh is fundamentalist Islam. The crop has been the hundreds of thousands of Islamist students turning out of tens of thousands of madrasah every year. And organisations like Hefazat-e-Islam. No politician in his right mind dared say a word when the seed was being sown. Now that the country has become even more "Islamic", politicians fall over each other to demonstrate how pucca are they as Muslims. And when this is accompanied by their denunciation of the murtads and atheists, or even those who seem to hurt the religious sentiments of the people (read Muslims), their constituents duly cheer.
    Sorry for the length of reflections on issues so well known. 
 
Mahfuzur Rahman            
  
 
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From: Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2015 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?

 
I have lost faith in politicians everywhere in the world. No more great leaders and politicians can be found around the world now. What we see, instead, bunch of incompetent people running countries.  
After Avijit murder, the government response should have been that – a murder is a murder in the eye of the law. Instead, we heard some stupid responses from people in the government, including Prime Minister, who blamed Atheists for being murdered, and, the prince assured that - government is not going to touch the murderers. What a smart response!
Australia already put Bangladesh on their security alert; next will be USA, Italy, UK, etc.


From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?

 
The great saying 'as you sow, so you reap' is very much relevant to Bangladesh. After the brutal killing of Avijit Roy by the barbaric Islamists in Dhaka, the 'prince' said: 'we cannot be seen to be associated with the atheists'. And so he encouraged the killing of few more 'atheists' by government inaction. 
Now after the killing of an Italian, he may well say that we cannot be associated with the Italians, or for that matter, with the foreigners. The British and American diplomatic and non-diplomatic personnel are in red-alert. Foreigners as well as people of Bangladeshi heritage will think twice, if not three times, before undertaking a life threatening journey to Bangladesh. The country has descended to total barbarity. 

The prince sowed the seed of barbarism, now he is going to reap it. The world may say, 'we cannot be associated with Bangladesh'. 

- AR 



On Wednesday, 30 September 2015, 23:59, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The saddest last laugh for the freethinkers? Can we expect some kick-ass action from law enforcement side? 
http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/cricket/bcb-president-admits-tour-doubt-149515






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Re: [mukto-mona] McCain carries water for whom?



Well-deserved insults on McCain! The bozo politicians of the USA have turned a secular Iraq into an Islamic fanatic nation by spending about 2 trillion US dollars and by losing thousands of American lives. They have turned Libya into more Islamic fanatic than it used to be under Qaddafi, and are hell-bent on removing Syria's Assad, which will turn that secular nation into an Islamic fanatic one. I salute the Christian lady of Syrian origin for trying to put some sense into McCain.

Sukhamaya Bain



On Thursday, October 1, 2015 9:29 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Not sure I understand your logic here. You mean to say, US knew about the outcome of Bangladeshi liberation war and yet it worked against its creation? US knew exactly that Iraq would be handed over to Iran on a silver platter and yet, it spent few trillions to bankrupt the country? There are too many similar examples to cite here. How can US be wrong so many times? I do not think US think tank is really thinking?  .
 




On Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:21 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Dr. Roy, they know every thing. They know exactly what they are doing. They are not naive. They are not stupid either. They have think tanks and research wings. They face so many political equations. Then there are vested interest groups with diverse agenda. Clear and straight thinking has no place in politics. 

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On Sep 30, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
It is so unfortunate that US politicians do not have any leader, who knows the world history and culture to make educated and wise foreign policy decisions.
McCain has visited Syria a few times, and some people over there told him a few stories and showed him some strategic places to prove their points, and, now, he thinks he knows much more about Syria than people from there. The same goes with Bush/Obama/Hillary/Kerry etc.
When George Bush attacked Iraq more than 10 years ago, these people had no idea about Shia and Sunni ideologies, and had no idea about the group that is the danger to the Western way of life. Even today, they have no clue.
Also, they have no clue about what keeps Middle-East safe. To them, medicine for peace anywhere is – the freedom and democracy. Bush gave democracy in Iraq, and Barak Obama gave freedom in Egypt and Libya. The result speaks the truth.
Once again, they are making another mistake in Syria. American politicians think - if Asad is gone, as Mubarak and Gaddafi, peace will prevail in Syria. Just think about it; they have not learned anything from their past actions.
The difference between 'smart' and  'dumb' people is that smart people learn from the past mistakes, but the dumb people fail to do so.
Asad killed his own people; that's true, but, it is also true that those people revolted against his regime. Also, the truth is - Asad is a secular/westernized autocratic ruler, and he was never a direct threat to the Western World, just like Mubarak and Gaddafi. Now, who's the real foe, Asad or ISIS? Don't you think Asad will be a reliable force against ISIS? Then, why American politicians are hell-bent on bringing down Asad's regime now.
Only fight for ages in the Middle East has been between Shia and Sunni ideologies; outside force or ideology cannot solve this conflict. It seems that – smart Western politicians are unable to grasp it.
I hope, drunken politicians in the West will not dare to go against Putin. US has filed, it's Russia's turn now; let him try.
 
Jiten Roy


From: "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 3:59 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] McCain carries water for whom?

 
One Syrian lady puts him on spot! And, she is so right. Can Russians solve this with blunt force?








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Posted by: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>


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Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?



This double game by prince and his mom was the lowest point of the Awami politics. It showed where is their limit. They would rather keep one of their eyes closed and get blessings from the dark forces than doing the right thing. The question is whether bloggers were sacrificed intentionally? Nothing is impossible in this cruel world. Abhijit's father and Rafida might not be wrong at all.
 




On Thursday, October 1, 2015 6:49 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I have lost faith in politicians everywhere in the world. No more great leaders and politicians can be found around the world now. What we see, instead, bunch of incompetent people running countries.  
After Avijit murder, the government response should have been that – a murder is a murder in the eye of the law. Instead, we heard some stupid responses from people in the government, including Prime Minister, who blamed Atheists for being murdered, and, the prince assured that - government is not going to touch the murderers. What a smart response!
Australia already put Bangladesh on their security alert; next will be USA, Italy, UK, etc.


From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2015 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] A poetic justice for inaction for all bloggers' murderers?

 
The great saying 'as you sow, so you reap' is very much relevant to Bangladesh. After the brutal killing of Avijit Roy by the barbaric Islamists in Dhaka, the 'prince' said: 'we cannot be seen to be associated with the atheists'. And so he encouraged the killing of few more 'atheists' by government inaction. 
Now after the killing of an Italian, he may well say that we cannot be associated with the Italians, or for that matter, with the foreigners. The British and American diplomatic and non-diplomatic personnel are in red-alert. Foreigners as well as people of Bangladeshi heritage will think twice, if not three times, before undertaking a life threatening journey to Bangladesh. The country has descended to total barbarity. 

The prince sowed the seed of barbarism, now he is going to reap it. The world may say, 'we cannot be associated with Bangladesh'. 

- AR 



On Wednesday, 30 September 2015, 23:59, "Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The saddest last laugh for the freethinkers? Can we expect some kick-ass action from law enforcement side? 
http://www.thedailystar.net/sports/cricket/bcb-president-admits-tour-doubt-149515








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Posted by: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>


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