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Wednesday, July 12, 2017

[mukto-mona] Re: India should not get involved in two-front conflict with China, Pakistan: Chinese state media



A Chinese wishful thinking! China can desire lots things that it wants from its neighbors but Indians are not to pushed over because China becomes stronger. If push comes to shove, India should use its lethal nukes to make sure that 1962 scenario does not repeat itself this time. Would China want to loose it all? I don't thinks so. India should work with Japan and makes sure they get the nukes too.


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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Re: Caliphah Omar



The malignant sociopath Coconut Pat writes:  < Sorry, to disappoint many of you, who love to talk about Islam all day and night.>. 


  Funny! From all records, evidences and appearances over the last 16 years or so,  mukto-mona and the anti-Islam gang are not known to have found any other topic of interest for  discussion.

From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Dristy Pat dristypat5@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 5:27 AM
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Re: Caliphah Omar
 
 

Is there real benefits knowing what Omar did or did not 1500 years ego? Did it benefit mankind or even the followers of Islam? History of Islam tells me, it is soaked with blood and conflict from the beginning of Islam, till today. All we see, where there is Muslim, there is problem, including the birthplace of Islam. Sorry, to disappoint many of you, who love to talk about Islam all day and night.

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 9:55 AM, DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Story of savages with knives, daggers and swords! Is that the history of glorious Islam? Has it changed any bit since 7th century? Why discuss these Arabic savages than looking into our own past and be proud of own Sindhu/Indus heritage? Are Bangladeshi Muslims Arab descendants? Can people be so idiotic that they do not see any good in their own past but see greater glory with sword wielding Arabs and Bedouins? What a shame!

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
 ( When all decent muslim adhere to verse La Ikraha Fiddin, when Omar despised  it enough to behead for demanding the rights from that edict.Because it unequivocally mandate freedom of beliefs, so with all with others that corroborates)

Hate to break it to you, but find zainul pretentious.  He sugar coat katmullah position, just to get people drop their guard, exploiting people's good heart. From there it gets lot easier for katmullahs work on people. In short , he essentially belongs to the same pod as katmullahs.

I am secured in my position on Islam. And Willing not sell any garbage as God's word.  Omar who was a drunkard himself for many years, claims to beheading his teen son, when was he the one who exposed son to that . If he really killed or spread the lies to create image that to impress,  either way it was pungent , to say the least..

Prophet on his dead bed warned Omar against  the lies he was spreading about him and religion. Omar was spreading , the kafirs belief of immortality as islamic. Prophet refused to appointment him or others to succeed, because Islam is not political decree  to grab power, Allah doesn't need anybody to expand rule. As it is,everybody  is already under his rule. It is kafir like thinking to demand one religion is must to make easy for God to rule. This rejection of verse La Ikraha Fiddin, in favor of kafir mandate of enforcing one belief , unfortunately pretty wide spread. No one is more responsible for that is Omar and his admirers.

Omar begging for his life to his slaver who turned on him for mistreatment. Slavery is affront to the notion of equality which is bedrock decree of Islam and any decency. So is concubine, but he flaunt these ethics, if your neighbor own slaves and concubine, would you ever consider approving any of family members marrying in n that family or that guy, if no, then it so divine practice for Omar.

Omar treated Jews better than others in later of life. He personally chased christaians away in Jerusalem, and participate personally in taking out garbage to make path for jews to go and pray. But by then not tolerating different beliefs became so big part of religion that still is plaguing it,  giving upper hand to not so sophisticated on religion, and it benefited them at expense at expense of greater community.

https://islamqa.info/en/134757
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On Sat, 7/8/17, 'zainul abedin' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegrups.com> wrote:

 Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Re: Caliphah Omar
 To: "Razzak Syed" <amsmel@aol.com>, "RANU CHOWDHURY" <ranu51@hotmail.com>
 Cc: "serajul7@gmail.com" <serajul7@gmail.com>, "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>, "pfc-friends@googlegroups.com" <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>, "sheikhhasina@hotmail.com" <sheikhhasina@hotmail.com>, "farahmina@gmail.com" <farahmina@gmail.com>, "banglarnari@yahoogroups.com" <banglarnari@yahoogroups.com>, "postcardfromcanada@gmail.com" <postcardfromcanada@gmail.com>, "abidbahar@gmail.com" <abidbahar@gmail.com>, "abdul_momen@hotmail.com" <abdul_momen@hotmail.com>, "wthikana@aol.com" <wthikana@aol.com>, "thikana@mindspring.com" <thikana@mindspring.com>, "tamannak2013@gmail.com" <tamannak2013@gmail.com>, "smargoob@yahoo.com" <smargoob@yahoo.com>, "suhasboston@gmail.com" <suhasboston@gmail.com>, "guhasb@gmail.com" <guhasb@gmail.com>, "shouvikerbaba@gmail.com" <shouvikerbaba@gmail.com>, "shahadathussaini@hotmail.com" <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>, "sakhter1015@gmail.com" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "rezaulkarim617@gmail.com" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "rashedanam@yahoo.com" <rashedanam@yahoo.com>, "rakhalbandho@gmail.com" <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>, "rajakhan33@hotmail.com" <rajakhan33@hotmail.com>, "quazinuru@yahoo.com" <quazinuru@yahoo.com>, "Ovimot@yahoogroups.com" <Ovimot@yahoogroups.com>, "zoglul@hotmail.co.uk" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "osmangani@gmail.com" <osmangani@gmail.com>, "mo.gani@hotmail.com" <mo.gani@hotmail.com>, "pothik2302@yahoo.com" <pothik2302@yahoo.com>, "obaidul.quader@gmail.com" <obaidul.quader@gmail.com>, "bachchuhaq13@yahoo.com" <bachchuhaq13@yahoo.com>, "neawamileague@gmail.com" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "bnp.newengland@yahoo.com" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "nurunnabi@gmail.com" <nurunnabi@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "manik195709@yahoo.com" <manik195709@yahoo.com>, "kazi4986@yahoo.com" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "mohiuddin@netzero.net" <mohiuddin@netzero.net>, "haquemashud95@gmail.com" <haquemashud95@gmail.com>, "lokhossain@yahoo.com" <lokhossain@yahoo.com>, "liaquat707@me.com" <liaquat707@me.com>, "liaquat707@gmail.com" <liaquat707@gmail.com>, "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "khandaker.a.mansur@census.gov" <khandaker.a.mansur@census.gov>, "khabor24@gmail.com" <khabor24@gmail.com>, "jukhan@gmail.com" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "bdmailer@gmail.com" <bdmailer@gmail.com>, "bd_mailer@yahoo.com" <bd_mailer@yahoo.com>, "bapsnewsagency@yahoo.com" <bapsnewsagency@yahoo.com>, "akhtergolam@gmail.com" <akhtergolam@gmail.com>, "khanboston@gmail.com" <khanboston@gmail.com>, "farukhchowdhury@gmail.com" <farukhchowdhury@gmail.com>, "farida_majid@hotmail.com" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>, "mostofadrgholam@gmail.com" <mostofadrgholam@gmail.com>, "shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com" <shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com>, "dr.dipumoni@gmail.com" <dr.dipumoni@gmail.com>, "shahdeeldar@gmail.com" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "borakhbash@gmail.com" <borakhbash@gmail.com>, "bishawdipta@yahoo.com" <bishawdipta@yahoo.com>, "bipulnahar@yahoo.com" <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>, "golardho@yahoo.com" <golardho@yahoo.com>, "bazlul@yahoo.com" <bazlul@yahoo.com>, "bamandas_basu@yahoo.com" <bamandas_basu@yahoo.com>, "unitycouncilusa@gmail.com" <unitycouncilusa@gmail.com>, "bhbcucne@gmail.com" <bhbcucne@gmail.com>, "bhbcop@dhaka.net" <bhbcop@dhaka.net>, "akabir60@yahoo.com" <akabir60@yahoo.com>, "anis.ahmed@netzero.net" <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>, "71gdncboston@gmail.com" <71gdncboston@gmail.com>, "azad_abukamal@yahoo.com" <azad_abukamal@yahoo.com>, "abid.bahar@gmail.com" <abid.bahar@gmail.com>, "wthikana@gmail.com" <wthikana@gmail.com>, "unitycouncilusa@yahoogroups.com" <unitycouncilusa@yahoogroups.com>, "taslimanasreen@gmail.com" <taslimanasreen@gmail.com>, "nfbnews@gononet.com" <nfbnews@gononet.com>, "news.editor@bdnews24.com" <news.editor@bdnews24.com>, "news.banglareport@gmail.com" <news.banglareport@gmail.com>, "mohibullah@adamscenter.us" <mohibullah@adamscenter.us>, "mohibul.ezdanikhan@posten.se" <mohibul.ezdanikhan@posten.se>, "khandker.saleque@gmail.com" <khandker.saleque@gmail.com>, "jafar224cu@gmail.com" <jafar224cu@gmail.com>, "helala7@yahoo.com" <helala7@yahoo.com>, "gondomurkho@yahoo.com" <gondomurkho@yahoo.com>, "faruhchowdhury@gmail.com" <faruhchowdhury@gmail.com>, "farah_haq_quazi@yahoo.com" <farah_haq_quazi@yahoo.com>, "faithcomilla@gmail.com" <faithcomilla@gmail.com>, "drM.Mdrmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drM.Mdrmohsinali@yahoo.com>, "awamileague@yahoogroups.com" <awamileague@yahoogroups.com>, "asm_rob@hotmail.com" <asm_rob@hotmail.com>, "Shojib.wazed@gmail.com" <Shojib.wazed@gmail.com>, "Hindu_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Hindu_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, "Bangla-Women@yahoogroups.com" <Bangla-Women@yahoogroups.com>, "6064@yahoogroups.com" <6064@yahoogroups.com>
 Date: Saturday, July 8, 2017, 6:20 PM


 Assalamu
 Alaikum,
 I do
 not reply to the pseudonyms because of their Satanic
 activities in disguise. I told once this KO that I will not
 reply to his retorts thogh sometimes look good. He had
 a dubious role at the beginning (sometimes good, sometimes
 bad). He once invited one bro. to contact him personally so
 that he can do some personal favor! Now, this KO has made it
 clear that he is someone who knows everything bad in
 Islam!
 I
 add:  Hazrat Omar (RA) was so straightforward and
 uncompromising with Satanic matters that if Satan saw Omar
 (RA) coming, Satan ran away from that area!
 Zainul
 Abedin

     On Saturday, July 8,
 2017 4:24 PM, 'Razzak Syed' via North America
 Bangladeshi Community <nabdc@googlegroups.com> wrote:


  Ranu Bhai,     
 AWRB. Thank you for your valuable inputs. First of all, all
 the four Khalifa was closet friends of Prophet (SAW) and
 praised by Allah(SWT) for their honesty and integrity. So we
 no one to judge them. Besides as you mentioned, Omar (RA)
 was very straight forward and honest ruler. He was very hard
 working. There are numerous incidents, because of his
 humbleness, people embraced Islam. 

 Razzak A. Syed

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 9 Jul
 2017, at 4:56 am, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:








 Whatever little I know of Islamic history, Umar Ibn Khattab,
 the Second Caliph of Islam, was once a fierce opponent
 of Muhammad (SM) and his new faith (Islam). He was
 very literate but violent in nature and did openly
 whatever he believed in. Brandishing his
  sword, he was on his way to kill the Prophet. On the
 way, a friend informed him that he should first fix his
 house because his sister and her husband secretly embraced
 the new religion. Umar turned back and rushed to his sister,
 who and and her husband along
  with a few new converts, were reciting a newly
 revealed verse ( Sura Taha 81:1) at that moment. After a
 dramatic entry into the house, Umar demanded and
 listened to the verse, and his heart melted instantly. He
 rushed back to the Prophet, still with sword
  drawn, and declared his allegiance to the new faith.
 Umar's conversion to Islam was as dramatic as it
 was a new found strength among the Muslims. Unlike
 others, Umar made no secret of his conversion, and nobody
 dared to challenge him, mainly because of his
  nature and high family connections among
 Quraysh. 





 Though a little short tempered and strict ( he bet his own
 son to death for drinking wine), Umar was the most
 capable administrator among the Khulaf-e-Rashedeen. He
 is credited for maintaining unity within Islam, at times
 using autocratic measures, in the face
  of a growing factionalism within and
 outsied. Islamic empire saw huge expansion under
 his command, time, thanks mainly to a
 great general like Khalid Ibn Walid (whom he later
 fired suspecting his popularity and a threat in him). His
 greatest success was the
  breakup of Persio-Roman alliance and conquest of Persia.
 However, distractors found him to be very strict and
 unkind. 









 From: serajul7@gmail.com <serajul7@gmail.com>

 Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 6:36 PM

 To: Khoniker Othithee

 Cc: Razzak Syed; RANU CHOWDHURY; pfc-friends@googlegroups.com; sheikhhasina@hotmail.com; farahmina@gmail.com; banglarnari@yahoogroups.com; postcardfromcanada@gmail.com; abidbahar@gmail.com; abdul_momen@hotmail.com; wthikana@aol.com; thikana@mindspring.com;
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 Subject: Re: Caliphah Omar
  



 Who is
 this rascal and an Islamophobe  Khoniker Othitee and
 why am I receiving his nasty email ? 



 On 8 July 2017 at
 13:48, Khoniker Othithee
 <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
 wrote:


 If some one fear Allah (swt) doesn't mean One have to
 sing praises for cruelties that Omar committed. When 1971 is
 so far off, then how  narratives, supposedly from 1400
 year ago are so authentic, is it because narrated in
 Arabic.

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 On Sat, 7/8/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:



  Subject: Re: Caliphah Omar

  To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

  Cc: "RANU CHOWDHURY" <ranu51@hotmail.com>,
 pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "sheikhhasina@hotmail.com" <sheikhhasina@hotmail.com>, "farahmina@gmail.com"
  <farahmina@gmail.com>, "banglarnari@yahoogroups.com" <banglarnari@yahoogroups.com>, "postcardfromcanada@gmail.com"
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  <abdul_momen@hotmail.com>, "wthikana@aol.com" <wthikana@aol.com>, "thikana@mindspring.com"
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  Date: Saturday, July 8, 2017, 2:41 AM



  Mr. KO,

     

  After 1400 years, none of us in a position to judge
 any

  Khalifa or Shahabah of Prophet(SAW), when we
 can't

  decide who declared the war 1971?



  We get different judgment or opinion about the

  people, who are alive, involved in politics or social
 work.





  On a personal email, you

  mentioned that "I fear Allah", even the
 Devil

  (Iblis) said the same during battle of Badar, also
 as

  Allah(SWT) mentioned same in the holy Quran



   "  তারা

  শয়তানের মত, যে

  মানুষকে কাফের হতে
 বলে।

  অতঃপর যখন সে কাফের
 হয়,

  তখন শয়তান বলেঃ
 তোমার

  সাথে আমার কোন
 সম্পর্ক

  নেই। আমি

  বিশ্বপালনকর্তা

  আল্লাহ তা’আলাকে
 ভয়

  করি।"



  Please

  be careful, if you truly fear Allah (SWT).



   Razzak A. Syed



  Sent from my iPhone





  > On 8 Jul 2017, at 2:04

  pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

  wrote:

  >

  >

  > I get tired of hearing, "Omar was

  kind man, oh by the he also beheaded people'. Is
 the

  definition of kind man ; are we muslims are taken for
 Fools.

  Prophet of Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Ibrahim
 are only

  human characaters matters in Islam.  It is
 through Hadis,

  this charcters, like Omar , are larger than Life in
 Muslim

  world.But we know there hundreds of verses in Hadis
 are

  dubbed unauthentic, when misguide Muslim with
 unauthentic

  versus, isn't it blasphemous to misguide Mullins
 with

  fake docs.















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[mukto-mona] Re: ফরহাদ মজহার অপহরণে ভারত জড়িত ঃ আন্তর্জাতিক মানবাধিকার সংস্থা



Surely this puts the credibility of Asian Human Rights Commission on line 😘





কবি-প্রাবন্ধিক ফরহাদ মজহারের বান্ধবী অর্চনা রানীকে আর্থিক সহযোগিতা করার জন্যেই অপহরণের নাটক। ফরহাদ মজহার তার বান্ধবীর সঙ্গে ঘটনার আগে-পরে মোবাইল ফোনে যে ধরনের কথা বলেছেন, কথোপকথনের রের্কডও আইন-শৃঙ্খলা বাহিনী সংগ্রহ করেছে। উভয়ের মোবাইল থেকে যে ম্যাসেজ আদান-প্রদান করেছেন এ রের্কডও রয়েছে আইন-শৃঙ্খলা বাহিনীর হাতে। ৩ জুলাই ভোরে তিনি মোহাম্মদপুর স্যার সৈয়দ রোডের বাসা থেকে বের হন। এরপর নিখোঁজ হন। তার পরিবারের পক্ষ থেকে বলা হয় তাকে অপহরণ করে নিয়ে যায় দুর্বৃত্তরা। তার পরিবারের কাছে মুক্তিপণ দাবি করে।
 
মহানগর গোয়েন্দা পুলিশ (ডিবি) ও পুলিশ সদর দফতরের সমন্বয়ে ফরহাদ মজহারের কথিত অপহরণের ঘটনার তদন্ত শুরু হয়। আধুনিক প্রযুক্তি ব্যবহার করা হয় এ তদন্তে।
 
তদন্তে শনাক্ত করার হয় এক নারীর মোবাইল ফোন। এ ফোনের সঙ্গে ফরহাদ মজহারের হয়েছে কথা বার্তা। এ মোবাইল ফোনের সূত্র ধরে খোঁজ পান তদন্তকারী কর্মকর্তারা এক নারীর। ঐ নারী হলেন ফরহাদ মজাহারের "উবিনীগ" নামের এনজিও'র সাবেক কর্মী। তার নাম অর্চনা রানী (২৮)। তিনি সহজ সরল এক নারী। বাঁচার তাগিদে অনেক কাঠখড় পুড়িয়েছেন। ২০০৫ সালে উবিনীগ নামক এনজিওতে চাকরি নেন তিনি। অর্চনা রানী ভাবছেন এই বুঝি তার এক ঠাঁই হলো। কিন্তু কাজের ফাঁকে ফরহাদ মজহারের সঙ্গে তার হয়ে উঠে ঘনিষ্টতা। প্রথম লালন ফকিরের আদর্শে ফরহাদ মজহারকে গুরু মেনে ফকিরী বায়াত নেন। এর থেকে শুরু হয় তাদের ঘনিষ্ঠতা। পরবর্তীতে মন দেওয়া নেওয়া এবং দৈহিক সম্পর্ক।
 
তদন্ত কর্মকর্তাদের বলেন, তিনি ফরহাদ মজহারকে মনপ্রাণে ভালবাসেন ও ভক্তি করেন। প্রায়ই অর্চনা রানীর বাসায় যাতায়াত এবং দৈহিক মেলামেশা করতেন ফরহাদ মজহার।
 
ফরহাদ মজহার তাকে আর্থিক সহযোগিতা করতেন। বাড়ি ভাড়া থেকে শুরু করে সংসারের অন্যান্য খরচ দিতেন তিনি। ২০০৭ সালে অর্চনা রানী অন্তঃসত্তা হয়ে পড়েন। ওই সময় তার অবৈধ গর্ভপাত ঘটনানো হয়। ঐ গর্ভপাত ঘটাতে গিয়ে ঐ সময় অর্চনা রানী শারীরিক ক্ষতিগ্রস্ত হন। সুস্থ হয়ে উঠতে তার অনেক সময় লাগে। ঐ সব ঘটনা ফরহাদ মজহারের পরিবারে জানাজানি হলে অর্চনা রানী উবিনীগ থেকে চাকরি হারান।
 
তিনি চাকরি হারালেও ফরহাদ মজহারের আর্থিক সহযোগিতা অব্যাহত থাকায় অর্চনা রানীর কোন সমস্যা হয়নি। সর্বশেষ তিনি আবার ৪ মাসের অন্তঃসত্তা হয়ে পড়েন। তিনি ফরহাদ মজহারকে বলেন, আপনার সম্পর্ক এখন আমার পেটে।  ফরহাদ মজহার  অর্চনা রানীকে আশস্ত করেন যে, এবার তোমাকে ভাল ডাক্তার দেখানো হবে। আগের মত তোমার শারীরিক ক্ষতি যাতে না হয়। সে বিষয়টি ফরহাদ মজহার গুরুত্ব সহকারে দেখছেন। ইতিমধ্যে অর্চনা রানীর বাবা অসুস্থ হয়েছেন। বাবার চিকিত্সার জন্য অর্চনা রানীর দরকার অনেক টাকা। ফরহাদ মজাহারের কাছে সেই পরিমাণ অর্থ নেই। অবশেষে অর্থের নেপথ্যে ফরহাদ মজহারের অপহরণের নাটক। এ নাটক ছিল তার পরিবারের কাছ থেকে ৩০ লাখ টাকা আদায় করা।
 
অর্চনা রানীর দেওয়া তথ্য, কথপোকথন রেকর্ড ও বিভিন্ন তথ্য প্রমাণের ভিত্তিতে তদন্তকারী কর্তৃপক্ষ নিশ্চিত হন যে ফরহাদ মজহারের অপহরণের ঘটনা "সাজানো নাটক।" ঘটনার দিন সকাল ১১টার দিকে ফরহাদ মজহার স্ত্রীকে ফোন করে বলেন, ৩০ লাখ টাকা তোমার কাছে রেখে দিও এবং তোমার কাছে ঐ টাকা চাইলে বলবে ডেলিভার হয়ে গেছে। ফিরে এসে বাকিটা দেখব। খুলনা গিয়ে তিনি নিউমার্কেটে (খুলনা) গেছেন ও বের হয়েছেন। ঐ দিন সন্ধ্যায় খুলনা থেকে অর্চনা রানীকে তার দুইটি নম্বরের প্রথম দফা ১৩ হাজার টাকা ও দ্বিতীয় দফায় দুই হাজার টাকা পাঠিয়েছেন ফরহাদ মজহার। সময় সন্ধ্যা ৭টা ১৮ মিনিট ও সন্ধ্যা সাতটা ১৯ মিনিট। বাসের টিকেট নিজে ক্রয় করেছেন। তারও প্রমাণ তদন্তকারী কর্তৃপক্ষের হাতে। তার কথিত অপহরণের সময় মাইক্রোবাসের কথা বলা হলেও গতকাল মঙ্গলবার পর্যন্ত ঐ মাইক্রোবাসের কোন হদিস পাননি গোয়েন্দা কর্মকর্তারা।




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[যে দিন ফরহাদ মজহার অপহৃত হন সে দিনই বাংলাদেশের বহু মহল মনে করেন যে, এই অপহরণে ভারত জড়িত এবং বাংলাদেশের কোন কোন মহলের প্রচণ্ড বাধায় তারা ফরহাদ মজহারকে ভারতে নিতে ব্যর্থ হয় এবং তাকে ফেরৎ দিতে বাধ্য হয়। নীচে দেখুন আন্তর্জাতিক মানবাধিকার সংস্থা এশিয়ান হিউম্যান রাইটস-এর পর্যবেক্ষণঃ]   

ফরহাদ মজহার অপহরণে ভারত জড়িত ঃ আন্তর্জাতিক মানবাধিকার সংস্থা



10 Jul, 2017

টুডে ডেস্ক 

আন্তর্জাতিক মানবাধিকার সংস্থা এশিয়ান হিউম্যান রাইটস গত শুক্রুবার এক প্রতিবেদনে অভিযোগ করেছে কবি, সাহিত্যিক ও বুদ্ধিজিবী ফরহাদ মজহারের অপহরন নাটকে ভারত জড়িত থাকতে পারে । এশিয়ান হিউম্যান রাইটস বলেন, তদন্ত সংস্থাদের তদন্তে ভারতের সংশ্লিষ্টতা পাওয়া যাচ্ছে।

হংকং ভিত্তিক এ সংস্থাটি আরও বলেন, একের পর এক এ ধরনের অপহরন সেই সব বাংলাদেশীদের জন্য মারাত্মক হুমকী হয়ে দেখা দিচ্ছে যারা বাংলাদেশে ভারতের আধিপত্য নিয়ে বেশি সোচ্চার।

এশিয়ান হিউম্যান রাইটস তাদের বিবৃতিতে আরও বলেন, ফরহাদ মজহারকে কারা অপহরণ করেছে এটা যদি বের করা না হয় তাহলে এটা পরিষ্কার হয়ে যাবে যে, বাংলাদেশে অভ্যন্তরিন নিরাপত্তার ব্যাপারে বাংলাদেশ সরকারের কোন নিয়ন্ত্রণ নাই, সব কিছু করা হচ্ছে দিল্লী থেকে । 

এশিয়ান হিউম্যান রাইটস জোর দিয়ে বলেন, অনেক প্রমাণের সাথে ফরহাদ মজহারের ঘটনা আরেকটা প্রমান হিসেবে যুক্ত হলো । এগুলো দেখিয়ে দিচ্ছে যে, বাংলাদেশে অভ্যন্তরিন নিরাপত্তার ব্যাপারে বাংলাদেশ সরকারের কোন নিয়ন্ত্রণ নাই, সব কিছু করা হচ্ছে দিল্লী থেকে । 

তারা আরও বলেন, বাংলাদেশ পুলিশ এই অপহরণে জড়িত না হলে ১৮ ঘণ্টায় ফরহাদ মজহারকে ৩০০ কিলোমিটার কারা ভারতীয় সীমান্তে নিয়ে গেল? পুলিশ বা র‍্যাব অপরাধীদের ধরলো না কেন? 

পুরো পড়ুন এখানে, 

Asian Human Rights Commission on Friday questioned the whole episode of abduction and rescue of poet, writer and researcher Farhad Mazhar, taking him in law enforcers' custody and the investigation and suspected that India's hand was in the abduction.

In a statement on Friday, the Hong Kong-based international rights organisation said, 'Farhad's abduction and attempted disappearance is a shocking example to the extreme level of threat to persons who dare to challenge the incumbent regime and India's role in Bangladesh's internal affair.'

AHRC raised seven questions and said that if the case was not investigated properly and the findings were not made public, 'this case too will remain as yet another proof to the allegation that it is not Dhaka that is in control of the affairs in Bangladesh, but it is New Delhi.'

AHRC also said that the detectives interrogated Farhad during which he was slapped, starved and was denied the presence of his lawyer.

'Despite the authorities been able to track Farhad's movement early on what prevented them from rescuing Farhad for 18 hours and until he was taken 300 kilometres away towards the Indian border,' AHRC asked.

'If Farhad's abduction was in fact carried out by some criminals, how was it possible for them to avoid RAB and police check points that are omnipresent in the country? Does it suggest that in fact the RAB or the police was behind the abduction', it said.

'Were the Indian agencies responsible for this abduction, as is believed by a substantial section of the country's population,' AHRC said.

AHRC said the statement by the home minister expressing concern about Farhad's case also suggests that the government of India was behind this case.  

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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Re: Caliphah Omar



Is there real benefits knowing what Omar did or did not 1500 years ego? Did it benefit mankind or even the followers of Islam? History of Islam tells me, it is soaked with blood and conflict from the beginning of Islam, till today. All we see, where there is Muslim, there is problem, including the birthplace of Islam. Sorry, to disappoint many of you, who love to talk about Islam all day and night.

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 9:55 AM, DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Story of savages with knives, daggers and swords! Is that the history of glorious Islam? Has it changed any bit since 7th century? Why discuss these Arabic savages than looking into our own past and be proud of own Sindhu/Indus heritage? Are Bangladeshi Muslims Arab descendants? Can people be so idiotic that they do not see any good in their own past but see greater glory with sword wielding Arabs and Bedouins? What a shame!

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:
 ( When all decent muslim adhere to verse La Ikraha Fiddin, when Omar despised  it enough to behead for demanding the rights from that edict.Because it unequivocally mandate freedom of beliefs, so with all with others that corroborates)

Hate to break it to you, but find zainul pretentious.  He sugar coat katmullah position, just to get people drop their guard, exploiting people's good heart. From there it gets lot easier for katmullahs work on people. In short , he essentially belongs to the same pod as katmullahs.

I am secured in my position on Islam. And Willing not sell any garbage as God's word.  Omar who was a drunkard himself for many years, claims to beheading his teen son, when was he the one who exposed son to that . If he really killed or spread the lies to create image that to impress,  either way it was pungent , to say the least..

Prophet on his dead bed warned Omar against  the lies he was spreading about him and religion. Omar was spreading , the kafirs belief of immortality as islamic. Prophet refused to appointment him or others to succeed, because Islam is not political decree  to grab power, Allah doesn't need anybody to expand rule. As it is,everybody  is already under his rule. It is kafir like thinking to demand one religion is must to make easy for God to rule. This rejection of verse La Ikraha Fiddin, in favor of kafir mandate of enforcing one belief , unfortunately pretty wide spread. No one is more responsible for that is Omar and his admirers.

Omar begging for his life to his slaver who turned on him for mistreatment. Slavery is affront to the notion of equality which is bedrock decree of Islam and any decency. So is concubine, but he flaunt these ethics, if your neighbor own slaves and concubine, would you ever consider approving any of family members marrying in n that family or that guy, if no, then it so divine practice for Omar.

Omar treated Jews better than others in later of life. He personally chased christaians away in Jerusalem, and participate personally in taking out garbage to make path for jews to go and pray. But by then not tolerating different beliefs became so big part of religion that still is plaguing it,  giving upper hand to not so sophisticated on religion, and it benefited them at expense at expense of greater community.

https://islamqa.info/en/134757
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On Sat, 7/8/17, 'zainul abedin' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegrups.com> wrote:

 Subject: {PFC-Friends} Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Re: Caliphah Omar
 To: "Razzak Syed" <amsmel@aol.com>, "RANU CHOWDHURY" <ranu51@hotmail.com>
 Cc: "serajul7@gmail.com" <serajul7@gmail.com>, "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>, "pfc-friends@googlegroups.com" <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>, "sheikhhasina@hotmail.com" <sheikhhasina@hotmail.com>, "farahmina@gmail.com" <farahmina@gmail.com>, "banglarnari@yahoogroups.com" <banglarnari@yahoogroups.com>, "postcardfromcanada@gmail.com" <postcardfromcanada@gmail.com>, "abidbahar@gmail.com" <abidbahar@gmail.com>, "abdul_momen@hotmail.com" <abdul_momen@hotmail.com>, "wthikana@aol.com" <wthikana@aol.com>, "thikana@mindspring.com" <thikana@mindspring.com>, "tamannak2013@gmail.com" <tamannak2013@gmail.com>, "smargoob@yahoo.com" <smargoob@yahoo.com>, "suhasboston@gmail.com" <suhasboston@gmail.com>, "guhasb@gmail.com" <guhasb@gmail.com>, "shouvikerbaba@gmail.com" <shouvikerbaba@gmail.com>, "shahadathussaini@hotmail.com" <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>, "sakhter1015@gmail.com" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "rezaulkarim617@gmail.com" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "rashedanam@yahoo.com" <rashedanam@yahoo.com>, "rakhalbandho@gmail.com" <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>, "rajakhan33@hotmail.com" <rajakhan33@hotmail.com>, "quazinuru@yahoo.com" <quazinuru@yahoo.com>, "Ovimot@yahoogroups.com" <Ovimot@yahoogroups.com>, "zoglul@hotmail.co.uk" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "osmangani@gmail.com" <osmangani@gmail.com>, "mo.gani@hotmail.com" <mo.gani@hotmail.com>, "pothik2302@yahoo.com" <pothik2302@yahoo.com>, "obaidul.quader@gmail.com" <obaidul.quader@gmail.com>, "bachchuhaq13@yahoo.com" <bachchuhaq13@yahoo.com>, "neawamileague@gmail.com" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "bnp.newengland@yahoo.com" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "nurunnabi@gmail.com" <nurunnabi@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "manik195709@yahoo.com" <manik195709@yahoo.com>, "kazi4986@yahoo.com" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "mohiuddin@netzero.net" <mohiuddin@netzero.net>, "haquemashud95@gmail.com" <haquemashud95@gmail.com>, "lokhossain@yahoo.com" <lokhossain@yahoo.com>, "liaquat707@me.com" <liaquat707@me.com>, "liaquat707@gmail.com" <liaquat707@gmail.com>, "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>, "khandaker.a.mansur@census.gov" <khandaker.a.mansur@census.gov>, "khabor24@gmail.com" <khabor24@gmail.com>, "jukhan@gmail.com" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "bdmailer@gmail.com" <bdmailer@gmail.com>, "bd_mailer@yahoo.com" <bd_mailer@yahoo.com>, "bapsnewsagency@yahoo.com" <bapsnewsagency@yahoo.com>, "akhtergolam@gmail.com" <akhtergolam@gmail.com>, "khanboston@gmail.com" <khanboston@gmail.com>, "farukhchowdhury@gmail.com" <farukhchowdhury@gmail.com>, "farida_majid@hotmail.com" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>, "mostofadrgholam@gmail.com" <mostofadrgholam@gmail.com>, "shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com" <shahanara.rahman@yahoo.com>, "dr.dipumoni@gmail.com" <dr.dipumoni@gmail.com>, "shahdeeldar@gmail.com" <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>, "borakhbash@gmail.com" <borakhbash@gmail.com>, "bishawdipta@yahoo.com" <bishawdipta@yahoo.com>, "bipulnahar@yahoo.com" <bipulnahar@yahoo.com>, "golardho@yahoo.com" <golardho@yahoo.com>, "bazlul@yahoo.com" <bazlul@yahoo.com>, "bamandas_basu@yahoo.com" <bamandas_basu@yahoo.com>, "unitycouncilusa@gmail.com" <unitycouncilusa@gmail.com>, "bhbcucne@gmail.com" <bhbcucne@gmail.com>, "bhbcop@dhaka.net" <bhbcop@dhaka.net>, "akabir60@yahoo.com" <akabir60@yahoo.com>, "anis.ahmed@netzero.net" <anis.ahmed@netzero.net>, "71gdncboston@gmail.com" <71gdncboston@gmail.com>, "azad_abukamal@yahoo.com" <azad_abukamal@yahoo.com>, "abid.bahar@gmail.com" <abid.bahar@gmail.com>, "wthikana@gmail.com" <wthikana@gmail.com>, "unitycouncilusa@yahoogroups.com" <unitycouncilusa@yahoogroups.com>, "taslimanasreen@gmail.com" <taslimanasreen@gmail.com>, "nfbnews@gononet.com" <nfbnews@gononet.com>, "news.editor@bdnews24.com" <news.editor@bdnews24.com>, "news.banglareport@gmail.com" <news.banglareport@gmail.com>, "mohibullah@adamscenter.us" <mohibullah@adamscenter.us>, "mohibul.ezdanikhan@posten.se" <mohibul.ezdanikhan@posten.se>, "khandker.saleque@gmail.com" <khandker.saleque@gmail.com>, "jafar224cu@gmail.com" <jafar224cu@gmail.com>, "helala7@yahoo.com" <helala7@yahoo.com>, "gondomurkho@yahoo.com" <gondomurkho@yahoo.com>, "faruhchowdhury@gmail.com" <faruhchowdhury@gmail.com>, "farah_haq_quazi@yahoo.com" <farah_haq_quazi@yahoo.com>, "faithcomilla@gmail.com" <faithcomilla@gmail.com>, "drM.Mdrmohsinali@yahoo.com" <drM.Mdrmohsinali@yahoo.com>, "awamileague@yahoogroups.com" <awamileague@yahoogroups.com>, "asm_rob@hotmail.com" <asm_rob@hotmail.com>, "Shojib.wazed@gmail.com" <Shojib.wazed@gmail.com>, "Hindu_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com" <Hindu_Bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, "Bangla-Women@yahoogroups.com" <Bangla-Women@yahoogroups.com>, "6064@yahoogroups.com" <6064@yahoogroups.com>
 Date: Saturday, July 8, 2017, 6:20 PM


 Assalamu
 Alaikum,
 I do
 not reply to the pseudonyms because of their Satanic
 activities in disguise. I told once this KO that I will not
 reply to his retorts thogh sometimes look good. He had
 a dubious role at the beginning (sometimes good, sometimes
 bad). He once invited one bro. to contact him personally so
 that he can do some personal favor! Now, this KO has made it
 clear that he is someone who knows everything bad in
 Islam!
 I
 add:  Hazrat Omar (RA) was so straightforward and
 uncompromising with Satanic matters that if Satan saw Omar
 (RA) coming, Satan ran away from that area!
 Zainul
 Abedin

     On Saturday, July 8,
 2017 4:24 PM, 'Razzak Syed' via North America
 Bangladeshi Community <nabdc@googlegroups.com> wrote:


  Ranu Bhai,     
 AWRB. Thank you for your valuable inputs. First of all, all
 the four Khalifa was closet friends of Prophet (SAW) and
 praised by Allah(SWT) for their honesty and integrity. So we
 no one to judge them. Besides as you mentioned, Omar (RA)
 was very straight forward and honest ruler. He was very hard
 working. There are numerous incidents, because of his
 humbleness, people embraced Islam. 

 Razzak A. Syed

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 9 Jul
 2017, at 4:56 am, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:








 Whatever little I know of Islamic history, Umar Ibn Khattab,
 the Second Caliph of Islam, was once a fierce opponent
 of Muhammad (SM) and his new faith (Islam). He was
 very literate but violent in nature and did openly
 whatever he believed in. Brandishing his
  sword, he was on his way to kill the Prophet. On the
 way, a friend informed him that he should first fix his
 house because his sister and her husband secretly embraced
 the new religion. Umar turned back and rushed to his sister,
 who and and her husband along
  with a few new converts, were reciting a newly
 revealed verse ( Sura Taha 81:1) at that moment. After a
 dramatic entry into the house, Umar demanded and
 listened to the verse, and his heart melted instantly. He
 rushed back to the Prophet, still with sword
  drawn, and declared his allegiance to the new faith.
 Umar's conversion to Islam was as dramatic as it
 was a new found strength among the Muslims. Unlike
 others, Umar made no secret of his conversion, and nobody
 dared to challenge him, mainly because of his
  nature and high family connections among
 Quraysh. 





 Though a little short tempered and strict ( he bet his own
 son to death for drinking wine), Umar was the most
 capable administrator among the Khulaf-e-Rashedeen. He
 is credited for maintaining unity within Islam, at times
 using autocratic measures, in the face
  of a growing factionalism within and
 outsied. Islamic empire saw huge expansion under
 his command, time, thanks mainly to a
 great general like Khalid Ibn Walid (whom he later
 fired suspecting his popularity and a threat in him). His
 greatest success was the
  breakup of Persio-Roman alliance and conquest of Persia.
 However, distractors found him to be very strict and
 unkind. 









 From: serajul7@gmail.com <serajul7@gmail.com>

 Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 6:36 PM

 To: Khoniker Othithee

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 Subject: Re: Caliphah Omar
  



 Who is
 this rascal and an Islamophobe  Khoniker Othitee and
 why am I receiving his nasty email ? 



 On 8 July 2017 at
 13:48, Khoniker Othithee
 <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
 wrote:


 If some one fear Allah (swt) doesn't mean One have to
 sing praises for cruelties that Omar committed. When 1971 is
 so far off, then how  narratives, supposedly from 1400
 year ago are so authentic, is it because narrated in
 Arabic.

 ------------------------------ --------------

 On Sat, 7/8/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:



  Subject: Re: Caliphah Omar

  To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

  Cc: "RANU CHOWDHURY" <ranu51@hotmail.com>,
 pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "sheikhhasina@hotmail.com" <sheikhhasina@hotmail.com>, "farahmina@gmail.com"
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  Date: Saturday, July 8, 2017, 2:41 AM



  Mr. KO,

     

  After 1400 years, none of us in a position to judge
 any

  Khalifa or Shahabah of Prophet(SAW), when we
 can't

  decide who declared the war 1971?



  We get different judgment or opinion about the

  people, who are alive, involved in politics or social
 work.





  On a personal email, you

  mentioned that "I fear Allah", even the
 Devil

  (Iblis) said the same during battle of Badar, also
 as

  Allah(SWT) mentioned same in the holy Quran



   "  তারা

  শয়তানের মত, যে

  মানুষকে কাফের হতে
 বলে।

  অতঃপর যখন সে কাফের
 হয়,

  তখন শয়তান বলেঃ
 তোমার

  সাথে আমার কোন
 সম্পর্ক

  নেই। আমি

  বিশ্বপালনকর্তা

  আল্লাহ তা'আলাকে
 ভয়

  করি।"



  Please

  be careful, if you truly fear Allah (SWT).



   Razzak A. Syed



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  > On 8 Jul 2017, at 2:04

  pm, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>

  wrote:

  >

  >

  > I get tired of hearing, "Omar was

  kind man, oh by the he also beheaded people'. Is
 the

  definition of kind man ; are we muslims are taken for
 Fools.

  Prophet of Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Ibrahim
 are only

  human characaters matters in Islam.  It is
 through Hadis,

  this charcters, like Omar , are larger than Life in
 Muslim

  world.But we know there hundreds of verses in Hadis
 are

  dubbed unauthentic, when misguide Muslim with
 unauthentic

  versus, isn't it blasphemous to misguide Mullins
 with

  fake docs.















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