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Sunday, August 11, 2013

[mukto-mona] Mr. Adilur Rahaman, Secretary of ODHIKAR has been arrested - please protest



Hi!

I just signed the petition "Prime Minister, H.E. Sheikh Hasina: Release Human Rights Defender Adilur Rahman Khan Immediately " on Change.org.

It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/en-IN/petitions/prime-minister-h-e-sheikh-hasina-release-human-rights-defender-adilur-rahman-khan-immediately?share_id=MlRRurhEHl&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

Thanks!

Kirity


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Kirity Roy
Secretary
Banglar Manabadhikar Suraksha Mancha
(MASUM)
&
National Convenor (PACTI)
Programme Against Custodial Torture & Impunity
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PIN- 712203
Tele-Fax - +91-33-26220843
Phone- +91-33-26220844 / 0845
e. mail : kirityroy@gmail.com
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[mukto-mona] ঈদের মাঠেও শাহবাগী ভূত : ইসলামী মূল্যবোধ ও ঐতিহ্য বিনাশের সর্বনাশা খেলা



ঈদের মাঠেও শাহবাগী ভূত : ইসলামী মূল্যবোধ ও ঐতিহ্য বিনাশের সর্বনাশা খেলা
ইনকিলাব রিপোর্ট : এশিয়া মহাদেশের বৃহত্তম ঈদের মাঠ, বাংলাদেশের গৌরব কিশোরগঞ্জের শোলাকিয়া ঈদগাহ। রাজধানী ঢাকা থেকে ১১৫ কিলোমিটার দূরত্বে দেশের উত্তর-পূর্ব ভাটি অঞ্চলে স্বাধীন বাংলার প্রতীক, বীর যোদ্ধা মসনদ-ই-আলা ঈসা খাঁর স্মৃতিবিজড়িত কিশোগঞ্জ এ মাঠের জন্যেই আজ বিশ্বব্যাপী পরিচিত। শোলাকিয়া মাঠের মূল জায়গাটি ঈসা খাঁ মসনদ-ই আলার অধস্তন পুরুষ হয়বত নগর দেওয়ানবাড়ি ও শোলাকিয়া সাহেব বাড়িরই দান। উনবিংশ শতকের শেষ দিকে সাহেব বাড়ির একজন দরবেশ ইসলাম প্রচারক প্রথম প্রথম এখানে ঈদের নামাজ পড়ান। তার আধ্যাত্মিক আকর্ষণ একবার সোয়া লাখ লোক এতে শরিক হন। স্থানীয় লোকজন মাঠের নাম দেন সোয়ালাখিয়া মাঠ। কালে নামটির বিবর্তন ঘটে বর্তমানে এলাকাটির নাম হয় শোলাকিয়া। শরীয়ত মত ওয়াকফ করা পারিবারিক মাঠটিতে ব্রিটিশ আমল থেকেই দেশ-বিদেশের মুসল্লিরা নামাজ পড়তে আসতেন। অবিভক্ত ভারতের দূঢ় দূরান্ত থেকে মানুষ এ মাঠে নামাজ পড়তে এসেছেন। পাকিস্তান আমলেও ঈদ উপলক্ষে আসামের করিমগঞ্জ গোহাটি ধুবড়ি, ত্রিপুরা ও মেঘালয়ের বিভিন্ন অঞ্চলের মুসলমান এখানে এসে নামাজে শরিক হতেন। বাংলাদেশ আমলে শুধু ভারত নয়, বিশ্বের অনেক দেশের লোকই ঈদের জমাতে শরিক হতে কিশোরগঞ্জে আসেন। তাবলীগ জামাতে আগত বিদেশিরাও সুযোগ পেলে ঈদ করতে চলে আসেন এ জেলা শহরে।
এ বছর ছিল ঈদুল ফিতরের ১৮৬ তম জামাত। কিন্তু শোলাকিয়া মাঠের ঐতিহ্য ও রেওয়াজ ভেঙে দেয় বর্তমান সরকার। প্রায় দুই'শ বছর এ মাঠের রীতি ছিল ওয়াকফকারী দেওয়ান পরিবারের ইচ্ছানুযায়ী একজন বুযুর্গ আলেম এ মাঠের ইমাম হবেন। বিগত সময় দেশের সর্বজনমান্য বুযুর্গ আলেমগণই এ মাঠে ইমামতি করেছেন। স্বাধীনতার পর থেকে দীর্ঘ ৩২ বছর মাঠের ইমাম ছিলেন দেওয়ান বাড়ি মাদরাসার অধ্যক্ষ মাওলানা এ,কে, এম নূরুল্লাহ। তার মৃত্যুর পর দেওয়ান পরিবারের প্রতিনিধি বর্তমান মোতাওয়াল্লী দেওয়ান ফাত্তাহ দাদ খানের অনুমোদনক্রমে  নামাজ পড়াতেন মরহুম ইমামের পুত্র মাওলানা এ কে এম সাইফুল্লাহ। পিতার মৃত্যুর পর ৬ বছর নামাজ পড়ানোর পর বর্তমান সরকার ক্ষমতায় আসার পর একটি মহল ঐতিহ্যবাহী এ মাঠটির উপর শ্যেনদৃষ্টি দেয়। মাঠের দাতা ও ওয়াক্্ফকারীদের ইচ্ছার বিরুদ্ধে এবং দুইশত বছরের রেওয়াজ ও ঐতিহ্য ভঙ্গ করে এ মাঠে ইমাম নিয়োগ করা হয় মাওলানা ফরিদ উদ্দিন মাসউদকে। যার উপর এলাকাবাসীর কোন সমর্থন বা শ্রদ্ধা আছে বলে গত তিন বছরেও প্রমাণ পাওয়া যায় নি।
শোলাকিয়ার নিয়মিত মুসল্লি মাওলানা ফারুক আহমদ বলেন, সরকার সমর্থিত ইমাম মাওলানা মাসউদের শাহবাগ চত্বরের ভূমিকা তাকে বেশ বিতর্কিত করে। দেশের ওলামা-মাশায়েখ ও তৌহিদী জনতার বিপক্ষে অবস্থান নিয়ে এবং নাস্তিক-মুরতাদ-ধর্মবিদ্বেষী শক্তির সহায়ক হিসাবে নিজেকে উপস্থাপন করে মাওলানা ফরিদ উদ্দিন মাসউদ ইতোমতধ্যেই দেশের আলেম সমাজ ও তৌহিদী জনতার চোখে একজন ভ্রষ্টচারী, ক্ষমতাভজা ও দালাল ব্যক্তিরূপে নিজেকে প্রমাণিত করেছেন। ইসলামিক ফাউন্ডেশনে চাকুরি করার সময় দুর্নীতির অভিযোগে তিনি অকাল অবসরে যান, বিগত দিনে বাংলাদেশে জঙ্গিবাদ ও বোমাহামলার সাথে তার সম্পৃক্ততার জন্যে তাকে জেলে নেয়া হয়। দুর্নীতি, জঙ্গিবাদ ও মানিলন্ডারিংয়ের একাধিক মামলার জন্যে তিনি বর্তমান সরকারের উচ্চপর্যায়ে ধর্না দিয়ে ফিরছেন। বায়তুল মোকাররমের খতিব ও ইসলামিক ফাউন্ডেশনের মহাপরিচালক হওয়ার কথা বলে সরকারের একটি মহল তাকে দেশের আলেম-ওলামা ও নবীপ্রেমিক তৌহিদী জনতার বিরুদ্ধে দাঁড় করায়। বড় কোন পদ না দিয়ে শেষ পর্যন্ত তাকে নিয়োগ দেয়া হয় শোলাকিয়ার ইমাম পদে। যা অন্যায়, অনিয়ম ও রীতিবিরোধী নিয়োগ। তিনি শুরু থেকে পুলিশ র‌্যাব ও দলীয় ক্যাডার নিয়ে ঈদের জামাত পড়াতে কিশোরগঞ্জে আসেন। তার নামাজ, খুতবা ও মুনাজাত কোন কিছুতেই মুসল্লিরা সন্তুষ্ট নন।
কথা হয় শোলাকিয়া মাঠে ১০৪ বার ঈদের নামাজ আদায়কারী মুসল্লি কিশোরগঞ্জের মাহতাব উদ্দিন মুন্সীর সাথে। ৬৫ বছরের এ বৃদ্ধ বলেন , ছোট বেলা বাবার সাথে মাঠে নামাজ পড়তে এসেছি, জীবনের প্রায় সকল ঈদের নামাজ এই মাঠেই পড়লাম, বছরে দুই ঈদের হিসাবে ৫০/৬০ বছরে ১০০'র বেশি ঈদের জামাত হওয়ার কথা। কোরবানীর ঈদ, ঝড়বৃষ্টি, অসুখ-বিসুখের কারণে কিছু বাদ যাওয়ায় আমার হিসাবে ১০৪টি ঈদের জামাত এই মাঠে পড়েছি। কিন্তু এবারের মত বিশৃঙ্খলা আর কোনদিন দেখিনি। মানুষও হয়েছে প্রায় অর্ধেক। এমনিতে ৩/৪ লাখ লোক হয়। এবার ২ লাখ লোক হয়েছে কিনা সন্দেহ। নামাজের আগে ইমাম সাহেবের বক্তৃতার শুরুতেই হৈ চৈ শুরু হয়। মুসল্লিরা শাহবাগী বলে চিৎকার করে। তখন কথা বন্ধ করে দ্রুত নামাজ পড়ে কয়েক মিনিটে মুনাজাত শেষ করে, ইমাম সাহেব র‌্যাব ও পুলিশ প্রহরায় চলে যান। অথচ এই মাঠে কত বড় বড় আলেম নামাজ পড়াতেন। ঘণ্টার পর ঘণ্টা তারা মুসল্লিদের সাথে হাত ও বুক মিলাতেন। কথা বলে স্মৃতিকাতর হয়ে পড়েন মাহতাব উদ্দীন মুন্সী। শহরের একজন প্রবীণ চিকিৎসকের সাথে কথা বলে জানা গেছে, এ বছর শহরের অভিজাত লোকজন, শিক্ষিত শ্রেণী ও আলেম-ওলামা মসজিদেই নামাজ পড়েছেন। জেলা শহর ও আশপাশের উপজেলাগুলো থেকে লোকজন মাঠে আসেনি বললেই চলে। দূর-দূরান্ত থেকে মাঠের টানে বা মিডিয়ার প্রচারণায় লোকজন যা এসেছিলেন তারাই কেবল নামাজে শরিক হয়েছেন। পরিস্থিতি অশান্ত ছিল বলে স্থানীয় সংসদ সদস্য এলজিআরডিমন্ত্রী সৈয়দ আশরাফুল ইসলামও এবার শোলাকিয়ায় নামাজ পড়তে আসেননি। স্পিকার থাকাবস্থায় বেশির ভাগ সময় এডভোকেট আবদুল হামিদ এই মাঠে নামাজ পড়লেও এবার রাষ্ট্রপতি হিসাবে তিনি রাজধানীর জাতীয় ঈদগাহে নামাজ পড়েন। অন্য কোন গুরুত্বপূর্ণ ব্যক্তিও প্রশাসনের ইতিবাচক সাড়া না থাকায় শোলাকিয়ায় যেতে উৎসাহ বোধ করেন নি। এ প্রথমবারের মত চার স্তরের নিরাপত্তা নিয়ে ইমাম সাহেব নামাজে এসেছেন। মাঠের ভেতর অসংখ্য সিসিটিভি, মেটাল ডিকেক্টর লাগিয়ে, নামাজিদের
কষ্ট দেয়া হয়েছে। সৌহার্দ্য ও শান্তিপূর্ণ এ ঈদের মাঠটিও সরকারের জবরদদখল নীতির কারণে আজ যুদ্ধক্ষেত্রের রূপ নিয়েছে।
ভৈরব থেকে নামাজ পড়তে আসা কলেজ-শিক্ষক হায়াতুজ্জামান চৌধুরী বলেন, বিতর্কিত ইমামের তো নিজে থেকেই নামাজ পড়ানো থেকে বিরত থাকা উচিত। আমি অন্য জায়গার মানুষ। আত্মীয় বাড়িতে এসেছি বড় জামাতে নামাজ পড়ব বলে কিন্তু মাঠে নামাজ পড়া হয়নি। কারণ জানতে চাইলে বলেন, শহরের বড় বড় আলেম ও ইমামগণ এবার এই ইমামকে বয়কট ও প্রতিহত করার সিদ্ধান্ত নিয়েছিলেন। শুনেছি গত ৩১ মার্চ বৃহত্তর ময়মনসিংহ জেলার সব আলেম কিশোরগঞ্জে সমবেত হয়ে শাহবাগী এই ইমামকে বর্জন করার সিদ্ধান্ত নেন। এরপর মাওলানা ফরিদ উদ্দিন মাসউদ কিশোরগঞ্জ সার্কিট হাউজে এসে আলেম-ওলামাদের শায়েস্তা করার হুমকি দিলে এলাকায় ব্যাপক ক্ষোভ ছড়িয়ে পড়ে। এবার তিনি পুলিশ ও প্রশাসনের সহায়তায় কোনরকম নামাজ পড়িয়ে গেছেন। ভাবিষতে আর পারেন কিনা সন্দেহ আছে। আমি যখন রওনা হই, তখন এতকিছু জানতাম না। কিশোরগঞ্জ এসে দেখি আমার আত্মীয়রাই এবার মাঠে নামাজ পড়বেন না। অতএব, আমারও মাঠে যাওয়ার ইচ্ছা হলো না। ভক্তি ও একিন না হলে কারো, পিছনে নামাজ পড়া ঠিক নয়। কোনদিন যোগ্য ও সঠিক ইমাম এলে তখন মাঠে নামাজ পড়তে আসব। শহরের একটি হোটেলের ম্যানেজার ও রুম সার্ভিসের বয়দের সাথে কথা বলেও একই তথ্য পাওয়া গেছে। তারাও এবার মাঠে নামাজ পড়তে যাননি। বয় জালাল মিয়ার ভাষায়, এই মাওলানা ক্যাডার নিয়ে চলে, র‌্যাব-পুলিশের ভয় দেখায়। সরকারী ইমামকে দেওয়ান বাড়ি থেকে নিয়োগ দেয়া হয়নি। এ মাঠের মোতাওয়াল্লীর দাম নাই। অথচ দেওয়ান সাহেবরাই এ মাঠটি দান করেছেন। সরকার নাকি মাঠ কমিটির সেক্রেটারী বানাইছে এক হিন্দুরে। মসজিদের হুজুররা বলছেন, শরীয়ত মত সব না চললে মাঠে নামাজ শুদ্ধ হয় না। আমি আগে ১২টি জামাত পড়লেও এই বার মাঠে যাই নাই। সরকারী হস্তক্ষেপের ফলে ঈদের মাঠে গ-গোল হয় গাজীপুরেও। ধর্মীয় মূল্যবোধ ও ঐতিহ্য বিনাশের এ খেলা কেন কার স্বার্থে শুরু হয়েছে এ নিয়ে প্রশ্ন মুসল্লিদের। বিশেষজ্ঞ পর্যায়ে কথা বলতে গিয়ে আমরা দ্বারস্থ হই রাজধানী ঐতিহ্যবাহী মসজিদ মহাখালীর গাউসুল আযম মসজিদ ও জমিয়াতুল মোদার্রেছীনের সম্মানিত খতীব আল্লামা কবি রুহুল আমীন খানের। তার অভিব্যক্তি ছিল এই, সুমলমানদের ধর্মীয় বিষয়ে ক্ষমতাসীনদের হস্তক্ষেপ কেবল বিশৃঙ্খলা ও অশান্তির সৃষ্টি করতে পারে। গাজীপুরে ১৪৪ ধারা, কিশোরগঞ্জে নজিরবিহীন নিরাপত্তার নামে যুদ্ধ পরিস্থিতির মহড়া মানুষের আধ্যাত্মিক প্রশান্তি ও ধর্মীয় সৌহার্দকেই  বিনষ্ট করেছে। ইদানীং ক্ষমতাসীনদের মুখে মসজিদ, মাদরাসা, ইমাম, খতিব, আলেম, মুয়াজ্জিনদের সম্পর্কে নানা কটূক্তি শোনা যায়। এর উদ্দেশ্য যে মহৎ নয় তা জনগণ বুঝতে শুরু করেছে। দেশের ধর্মপ্রাণ মানুষের উৎসাহ উদ্দীপনা ভক্তি ভালোবাসায় পালিত ঈদের জামাত ও ইবাদত উৎসবে সরকারী  হস্তক্ষেপ এবং অপরাজনীতির যে অভিযোগ উঠছে অবিলম্বে এর সংশোধন প্রয়োজন।  ৯৩ ভাগ মুসলমানের এ দেশে মসজিদ ও ঈদগাহকে অশান্ত করে তোলার কোন অপচেষ্টা হচ্ছে কিনা, এ নিয়েও দেশের চিন্তাশীল নাগরিকরা উদ্বিগ্ন। আমার সাথে কথা বলেও অনেকে তাদের উদ্বেগের কথা জানিয়ে থাকেন। একটি মাঠের ওয়াক্ফ ও মোতাওয়াল্লীর  বিধানই এর মূলনীতি হওয়া উচিত। সরকারের হস্তক্ষেপ এখানে মোটেও কাম্য নয়। বিশেষ করে দেশের ঐতিহ্যবাহী ও বৃহত্তম ঈদগা ময়দান নিয়ে কোন ভুল কৌশল সরকারের জন্য খুবই ক্ষতিকর প্রমাণিত হতে পারে। ধর্মীয় আবেগ ও মূল্যবোধ সংক্রান্ত বিষয়ে, সরকারের নীতি হওয়া উচিত জনবান্ধব। ধর্মপ্রাণ মানুষের উপর ক্ষমতার জোরে কোন সিদ্ধান্ত চাপিয়ে দেয়ার মধ্যে কোন কৃতিত্ব আছে বলে আমি মনে করি না। কারো হঠকারিতা ও জেদাজেদির ফলে দুইশত বছরের প্রাচীন এ বৃহত্তর ঈদগাহর গৌরব যেন ক্ষুণœ না হয়। ক্ষমতা ও রাজনীতির প্রয়োজন ক্ষণস্থায়ী বিষয়, কিন্তু আমাদের নামাজ-বন্দেগী, ঈদ-উৎসব চিরস্থায়ী। অতএব ধর্মীয় বিষয়কে বিতর্কমুক্ত রেখে ঐতিহ্য মোতাবেক অগ্রসর করাই সবার কর্তব্য।
উল্লেখ্য, গত ৯ আগস্ট ঈদুল ফিতরের দিন গাজীপুরের ঈদগাহ ময়দানে দীর্ঘদিনের ইমাম কেন্দ্রীয় জামে মসজিদের খতীব মাওলানা মুনীর আহমদ খানকে বাদ দিয়ে সরকারের অতিউৎসাহী একটি মহল ইসলামিক ফাউন্ডেশনের ব্যবস্থাপনায় বায়তুল মোকাররমের একজন পেশ ইমামকে গাজীপুরে নামাজ পড়তে পাঠায়। স্থানীয় জনগণও বিষয়টিকে অন্যায় ও হস্তক্ষেপ বলে ধরে নিয়ে এর প্রতিবাদ করেন। এ প্রসঙ্গে ইনকিলাবকে গাজীপুর প্রতিনিধি জানান,
গাজীপুরে ঈদের নামাজ নিয়ে সংঘর্ষে আহত ৫
গাজীপুর জেলা শহরের রাজবাড়ী মাঠে কেন্দ্রীয় ঈদগাহে ঈদের জামাতে নির্ধারিত ইমাম পরিবর্তন করাকে কেন্দ্র করে বিশৃঙ্খলা ও সংঘর্ষের ঘটনা ঘটেছে। এতে কমপক্ষে ৫ মুসল্লি আহত হয়েছেন। এ ঘটনায় পুলিশ দুই জনকে আটক করে।  
প্রত্যক্ষদর্শীরা জানায়, প্রতিবারের মতো এ বছরও এ মাঠে ঈদের নামাজে ইমামতি করার জন্য জেলা প্রশাসনের সিদ্ধান্তের মাধ্যমে নির্ধারিত ইমাম ছিলেন গাজীপুর কেন্দ্রীয় জামে মসজিদের খতিব মাওলানা মুনির আহমাদ খান। গাজীপুর জেলা প্রশাসন বৃহস্পতিবার নামাজের সময় ইমাম পরিবর্তন করে ইসলামী ফাউন্ডেশনের  মাধ্যমে বাইতুল মোকারমের পেশ ইমাম হাফেজ মাওলানা মিজানুর রহমানকে দিয়ে ঈদের জামাতে ইমামতি করানোর উদ্যোগ নেন। এ ঘটনায় ঈদের জামাতে আসা মুসল্লিরা ক্ষিপ্ত হয়ে পূর্বের নির্ধারিত ইমাম দিয়ে নামাজ পড়ানোর দাবিতে বিক্ষোভ শুরু করেন। এই নিয়ে দুই ইমামের পক্ষে-বিপক্ষে অবস্থান নেয়া মুসুল্লীরা সংঘর্ষে লিপ্ত হয়। সংঘর্ষে অন্তত ৫ মুসলিল্ল আহত হয়। পরে পুলিশ এসে দুই জনকে আটক করলে পরিস্থিতি নিয়ন্ত্রণে আনে।
এ ঘটনার প্রতিবাদে মুসল্লি¬দের বৃহৎ একটি অংশ গাজীপুর কেন্দ্রীয় ঈদগাহ মাঠ থেকে চলে গিয়ে গাজীপুর কেন্দ্রীয় জামে মসজিদে নামাজ আদায় করেন। পরে জেলা প্রশাসনের আনা ইমামের মাধ্যমে পুলিশ পাহারায় অপর একটি অংশ কেন্দ্রীয় ঈদগা রাজবাড়ী মাঠে নামাজ আদায় করেন।
এ বিষয়ে জেলা প্রশাসক নূরুল ইসলাম সাংবাদিকদের বলেন, গাজীপুর কেন্দ্রীয় জামে মসজিদের পেশ ইমাম মাওলানা মনির আহমেদ খান গাজীপুরের গণজাগরণ মঞ্চ ভাঙচুরের মামলার আসামি। তার বিরুদ্ধে বিস্ফোরক দ্রব্য আইনে মামলা রয়েছে। এসব কারণে মাঠে তার ইমামতি নিয়ে মুসলিল্লদের আপত্তি থাকায় বাইতুল মোকাররমের পেশ ইমাম হাফেজ মাওলানা মিজানুর রহমানকে ইমামতি করার জন্য আমন্ত্রণ জানানো হয়।
এ বিষয়ে রাজধানীর বায়তুল আমান জামে মসজিদের পেশ ইমাম মাওলানা আবদুল হকের সাথে কথা হয়। তিনি বলেন, শাহবাগ মঞ্চ যেমন দেশের রাজনীতিতে প্রভাব ফেলেছে। এর প্রভাব ধর্মীয় অঙ্গনেও পড়েছে। শোলাকিয়া জনগণ শাহবাগ মঞ্চের সাথে সংহতি প্রকাশকারী ইমামকে বর্জন করেছে। অপরদিকে নাস্তিক-মুরতাদ বিরোধী তৌহিদী জনতার সাথে থাকায় গাজীপুরে প্রশাসন তথা সরকার নবীপ্রেমিক আলেম ও ইমামকে হয়রানি করছে বলে দেখা যাচ্ছে। এ অবস্থার দ্রুত অবসান প্রয়োজন। অন্যথায় ধর্মপ্রাণ মানুষের চাপা ক্ষোভ প্রকাশ্যে রূপ নিতে সময় লাগবে না। দেশ এখন স্পষ্ট দুই ভগে বিভক্ত। একভাগ ইসলাম, মহানবী (সাঃ) ও ধর্মীয় ভাবধারার পক্ষে। অপর ভাগ নাস্তিকতা, ধর্মবিদ্বেষ ও অপরাজনীতির পক্ষে। আমরা ধর্মীয় ক্ষেত্রে হীন রাজনীতি, সরকারী হস্তক্ষেপ ও পুলিশী শাসনের প্রতিবাদ জানাই। তৌহিদী জনতা আর যাই হোক, ধর্মীয় ক্ষেত্রে দখলবাজি ও হঠকারিতাকে বরদাশত করবে না।



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[mukto-mona] ‘Odhikar Secretary’s arrest justified’



 
It seems to be a good decisive action by the government. Falsification of information and publication of that should be treated as criminal acts.
 
Let me assert here that not digging into the contexts that might make a clearly written hateful-looking message in a religious book acceptable is not the same as falsification of information. It is not the burden of the fee mind to justify a wrong statement anywhere the way a seriously brainwashed enslaved mind does. In fact, when acts of crime and injustice are committed based upon hateful-looking religious messages, the religious fanatics never talk about expelling the criminals from their religious clans.
 
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Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....



I do not want to patronize a good man like Dr. Khan. He is probably the best face of our country. This selfless doctor probably spends most of his time with his patients without being aware of the nastiness that goes on beyond his clinic's four walls and his house. Nothing is wrong with that unless a person sticks out his/her neck to show the naivety.

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....

 
The accurate summation below by Professor Subimal Chakrabarty is what decent people like Dr. Mohammad Khan need to see, acknowledge, and act upon if possible. Talking about a few good Muslim-Hindu families and a few good communities misses the bigger picture. Some people miss that bigger picture because they are ignorant, which persons with reasonable academic qualifications should not be. Some people seem to miss that bigger picture because they want to deny the truth for their own religion/community-based hatred.
 
SuBain
 
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From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....
 
The village in which I was born and the small towns in which I was raised until I moved to Dhaka permanently and lived in this city for 23 years never witnessed communal riots which in the context of Pakistan or Bangladesh invariably meant or mean that the minorities were or are always in the receiving ends. But whenever there were any riots (in Pakistan time these riots always used to be state sponsored) in Dhaka, Khulna, Narayanganj, or anywhere else, the Hindus in other areas had also to spend sleepless nights as long as the mayhem went on. Every riot ignited in the mind of Hindus all over the country a thought process: no more, whenever the situation calms down, we have to leave. Planning started. But for practical reasons all plans could not be materialized. This has remained a continuous process throughout. As many Hindus left, these state sponsored riots could free jobs and business opportunities for the citizens. Abandoned land and houses and other proprieties could be redistributed. This is how state itself helped get relieved of the burden of the minorities. 

The role of the powerful social and political miscreants has also been a great contributor. And this is not concentrated in an industrial area or a big city or town as we saw in case of communal riots. 

A little analysis should show that in case of both state sponsored communal riots and torture by the social and political miscreants, a limited number of known faces took or take part. These miscreants are terrors not only to the minorities although they are more prone to their terrorist acts. 

With the creation of Bangladesh the state sponsored communal riots have lost the severity and frequency as well,  but the other one has been multiplied many times. Population growth and limited resources are two reasons. 

We should agree that during bad times Hindus got shelter, assurance of shelter, and even active support in the form of resistance against riots or oppression from common and noncommunal people of the country. 

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 6:33 PM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
I am only talking about the ground reality. I have not taken any poll to find out how many good Khans are there in Bangladesh? May be plenty? But if we look at the trend, the number of Hindus are decreasing. Is it due to economical reason or for the safety and security? I think it is for the later. As I said earlier, minorities should not become a protected species. They need to feel secure and confident in their homes. If they need to have a good Khan to protect them in their towns and villages, then we have already lost the battle. Thank you.

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss


From: Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....

 
My opinion differs from that of Deeldar Shaheb. Good people are not in short supply. Political and social miscreants some of them wearing masks of  good people, although limited in numbers, are the enemies of the religious minorities. They are in general enemies of the people, but the people belonging to the minority groups are easy preys and become their first targets. With money and political links they can easily bribe members of the law enforcement agencies and can do or undo virtually any thing they want. 
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On Aug 10, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Are we talking only about your Shukla di or Hindu minority in  general? I can give you a dozens of great college and school teachers' names of my town, who crossed the border because of constant insecurity of their lives and properties. If you really want to find out how minorities are living in Bangladesh, take a Hindu name and pretend to be a Hindu for a week. You will get the answer.
Protecting one Didi is not enough to create comfort for the whole community. A good man like you are in short supply in Bangladesh.

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:28 AM, MOHAMMAD KHAN <mak_285@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mr. SD,
Shukla Di is the headmaster of the school funded by me and her brother Shisir. She is spending her time by spreading the light of education to underprivileged rural community. She can walk anytime of the day and night without any fear. Villagers will give their lives for her.

From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
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As far as I know, Hindus do not want to live like protected species in Bangladesh. The numbers of minorities are dwindling gradually since 1947. There was little flicker of hope at the onset of independence in 1971 but that vanished very soon with more Islamisation of the country. Many of my Hindu friends left without saying formal good byes. Many them were tormented and killed during the 1971 war and then they experienced the very same treatment in 2001 and nobody got punished for those violent crimes. Maybe, your town and village were generous to minority Hindus but those days are just gone, my friend. Next time you visit your Shukla didi, please ask her a simple question whether she feels safer in Bangladesh? Please demand a truthful answer from her and assure her that you would not be offended by her truthful answer. I know you are good man but you should not be a naive person in this critical time. Bangladeshi Hindu minority would be basically a history unless they fight back for their citizenry rights. Who knows whether that would be enough? Thank you.    

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss


From: Mohammad Khan <mak_285@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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I lived 26 years of my early life in Bangladesh. I have not seen Hindu people are tortured in there. We had neighbor who were Hindu. I grew up with them. They are my rakhee sisters. My father arrange marriage for their sons and daughters. Kaka babu died and my dead tool care of all their family. They are our relatives.  We attended their poojas and they came to our Eid. When I read in this website I see so many things are written by some member which I have never came across. When I visit BD, I can come without visiting and eating from my Shukla didi' house. 
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On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:36 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
Since you still have doubts about Modi (does not go well to your know it all guy persona!). It seems you are ignorant about a lot of "Contribution" of Sri Narendra Modi. Shalom!


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From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Aug 6, 2013 8:10 pm
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Since when has the brain of shameless QR started functioning?  Most people in this forum know it as rotten.
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
It is safe to say that, we are well pass the allegation phase with "Indian Tikka Khan" Sri narendra Modi. Hopefully the smart people among us will allow their brain to function. Shalom!


-----Original Message----- From: SyedAslam <Syed.Aslam3@gmail.com> To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 5:34 pm Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....




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Re: [mukto-mona] Secular Perspective



"These are some reasons why we should be careful about blindly following India. If we do so, our minority population will suffer."

This was your comment just few days ago. Now, you say, you meant something else by not blindly following India? But you praised Indians for their other departments except their secularism. Am I the only one, who misunderstood you? And, that is why I wanted to know about your model.

By the way, I like your answer.  Even though, it is not any different from Indian or American version.

 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secular Perspective

 
member Shaha,

Don't think I ever say anything about any model of secularism. However I like to see a democratic Bangladesh where it is capitalistic, supports free market, respect rule of law, respect lives of common people, have free media and embrace multi party voting system by heart.

It has to be a model where people will not disrespect people for their ethnic, religious or political background as long they are peaceful.

Our free market will take care of the rest.

Shalom!


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To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 8:08 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secular Perspective

 
It would be more informative and interesting if you could elaborate which secularism model you would like to follow. Spell it out if you care.



 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secular Perspective

 
As I said earlier, I do not mind criticism but what I see a ambiguous statements and personal attacks against someone who happen to believe in religion. It is funny that the same set of people expects perfection and tolerance from others ALL the time.

First of all, MAKE A point if you have one.

Be specific where you disagree with me.

If some of you have some issues with other members, kindly take it to them. I cannot answer for someone else here.

Lastly, most countries have some contradictions within it. India is no exception. You do not have to get paranoid if someone criticize and point those things once in a while. Since most of you like to talk about religion all the time (While claiming you do not believe in it).

If you are happy being an atheist or agnostic, I am happy for you.

But if you are ignorant about religious views, it is only proper that someone offer you right information.

That is all I am doing here.

Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secular Perspective

 

Trying to make sense of QR's comment is trying to straighten the tail of a dog. QR is the face of the religionist. Their universe revolves around religion. Their view on anything is tintent by religion. That's not how most others (90%) in the world think. Therefore, views of a religionist, like QR, on India will be nonsensical. To me - he displays immaturity in his thoughts.Then again, all radical religious people possess immature psyche.  

Jiten Roy


From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2013 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Secular Perspective

 
It is useless to point out idiotic statements to a troll like this Q. Rahman.  Who the hell ever spoke of "blindly following India"?  We are getting bombarded by Mohish mohiuddin, FAlamgir's zulumgiri communalism, Munshi and Bahar's monstrous anti-India obsession, and BNP chairperson's torjoni-heloni warnings of 'desh beche phelchhe', and so on and so forth.

I mentioned many times how the 1972 Constitution of Bangladesh made a studied, conscious improvement over the Indian Constitution by including Article 38 where political parties based on any single religion, caste or creed is prohibited.  Secularism of Bangladesh had a more solid basis in 1972 Constitution than it has in the Indian one.

                          The troll QR, in his troll-like manner, keeps forgetting basic facts and figures so that he can raise them as if he is the one who discovered them in the first place.

                               Farida Majid

To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
From: qrahman@netscape.net
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 07:10:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Secular Perspective

 



These are some reasons why we should be careful about blindly following India. If we do so, our minority population will suffer.

India has a good judicial system and we should try to emulate that tradition into ours. Despite dirty communal and regional politics; judicial system and elections are strong points in Indian democracy.


Shalom!




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Very pointed piece on secularism by Irfan Engineer.
Sankar Ray




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India First or Upper Caste Elite First?
Irfan Engineer
 
(Secular Perspective August 1-15, 2013)
 
I: Contours of Communal Vs. Pseudo Secularism
The BJP is once again attempting to redefine secularism in order to attractively package its Hindu nationalist politics. The politics of Hindu nationalism bases itself on stigmatizing minorities, particularly the Muslim and the Christian community. The two communities are demonized in order to alarm the gullible members of majority community who fall for the propaganda regarding non-existing danger. The anxious and alarmed gullible members are then easy to mobilize for building an authoritarian, repressive and culture enforcing state which privileges the economic and social elite. The typical Hindu nationalist charge against the two communities is that Christians convert large numbers of Hindus using fraud, coercion and inducements (even though the population of Christians has fallen from 2.6% in 1971 to 2.3% in 2001); that all terrorists are Muslims (disregarding confessions of "Swami" Aseemanand and terror related accusation against "Sadhvi" Pragnya Sing Thakur and other); that loyalty of Muslims is suspect and they are more loyal to the neighbouring Pakistan and ISI uses them to destabilize India and mount terrorist attacks; that they nurture separatist goals; that they practice polygamy leading to rapidly growing population; that they infiltrate illegally from neighbouring countries – Pakistan and Bangladesh; that Muslim rulers demolished Hindu temples in order to destroy Hindu religion etc.
Demonization of the minorities provides justification for arming the state with unaccountable power through non-transparent security apparatus, which are then conducive to rapid growth of crony capitalism at the cost of marginalized under-class like the workers, peasants, landless, dalits, adivasis, women and other backward classes. The intruding security apparatus intimidates the under-classes. The alarmed under-class, anxious about the "security of the state", unwittingly surrenders the gains of democracy and democratic institution that would otherwise afford them space to collectively advance their interests. Hindu Nationalism also aims to persuade the members of majority community, particularly the under-class, to leave the feudal caste based hierarchies intact in the name of glorious ancient Hindu traditions. For Hindu nationalists, retaining the feudal traditions and hierarchical caste based structures in the name of traditions and constructing a strong authoritarian state which holds the minority communities down is "positive secularism". Congress' secularism comes under sharp attack from the BJP as "pseudo-secularism" on the ground that it is nothing else but "minority appeasement". By levelling the charge of "minority appeasement" the BJP really means that Congress is not as stridently anti-minority as itself.
The track record of Congress in treating the Muslim and Christian minorities too is nothing to go the town about. Over 40,000 people killed in communal riots, an overwhelming majority of which are members of religious minorities with the guilty having no fear of being brought to justice. The communal riots under Congress government include – Jabalpur in 1961, Ahmedabad in 1969 and 1984, Bhiwandi in 1970 and 1984, Nellie in 1983, anti-Sikh riot in 1984, Bhagalpur in 1989, Moradabad, Godhra in 1981, Meerut in 1987 etc. Staged fake encounter targeting
Sikhs in Punjab and Muslim youth in Batla House (Delhi), Mumbai, Hyderabad and other towns provide media opportunity to tarnish the minorities as terrorists and run stories demonizing the minority communities and increase their TRPS and circulation and coming up with anti-democratic legislations like AFSPA, UAPA, TADA and POTA giving virtually unaccountable powers in the hands of security agencies in the name of counter terrorism measures. Minorities are discriminated in providing infrastructure like roads, schools, access to drinking water and health facilities. Minorities are also discriminated in structures of opportunities, including education, public employment, bank loans, government contracts, etc., now well documented by Sachar Committee Report. Lack of proper security environment, discrimination in bank loans, government contracts and opportunities and poor infrastructure facilities have resulted in educational, social and economic backwardness among the minorities. Even a section of BJP has acknowledged after the Sachar Committee Report that Muslims have been in fact discriminated.
However, Congress attracts charge of "minority appeasement" by the BJP when it takes remedial steps which are too little too late and virtually ineffective to address social and educational backwardness among the minorities. BJP accuses Congress of minority appeasement also on another count – viz. when it frames legislations that are partly accommodative towards minority culture as regards affording them family law based on their faith. However, Congress has more than accommodated the upper caste elite, a tiny minority within the politically constructed majority community, by enforcing their cultural norms on the rest in matters of family laws, anti-cow slaughter legislations, anti-conversion laws that are prone to be misuse by its implementers against the minorities. VHP cadres have formed regular teams to extort money in collusion with some police officers regularly from members of minorities involved in transportation or trade of animals even when they are doing nothing illegal. The extortion amounts are ever increasing and have put the minorities out of business making space for others.
Congress governments have also been more than accommodative towards culture and religious beliefs of the upper caste elite and enforcing it on the rest with legal interventions for example, on the issue of Babri Masjid issue. It acquired the land on which Babri Masjid stood, and allowed the Masjid to be demolished! This later facilitated the Allahabad High Court to divide the land into three "equal" parts and distribute it among the "litigants" – two-third of it going to Hindu litigants and the original owner getting only one third and that too on the margins. Had the land not been acquired and had the mosque not been demolished, such a verdict would have been unthinkable. To conclude the above discussion, while the Hindu nationalists wants to obliterate all cultural uniqueness of diverse non-upper caste elite, perhaps with the exception of ways of worship, and leave political space only for upper-caste culture, the Congress would be a little bit space for culture of minorities and a bit more accommodative as its political strategy. It is this conflict that is reflected in the accusations of pseudo secularism (read minority appeasement) by the BJP and charge of "communal party" by the Congress.
II: India First
Narendra Modi, who is positioning himself as a national leader and prime ministerial candidate of the BJP for 2014 general election has now come up with a new definition of secularism – "India First". All he is reported to have said by way of "definition" is, "nothing less than India's wellbeing should be our goal and if this happens, secularism will automatically run in our blood" That leaves a lot to imagination an begs further questions – India's well being is in what? In allowing corporate India to prosper by grabbing the common resources of the nation at dearth cheap rate, leading to a jobless and futureless "growth" at the cost of the poorest in India, increasing the GDP and India's rating with "Standard & Poor"? Is it in liberalization, privatization and globalization attracting more and more risky and volatile global capital? Or is it in ensuring more equitable and sustainable development benefitting most to the poorest and improving their quality of life as a priority? While Modi does not answer these questions, but his priorities are well known to devote space here. Modi's "India First" definitely appears to be a slogan calculated to say, "not the poorest first, not the discriminated first, not the backward regions first, not the socially backward first, not the victims of development first and not the weakest sections first". For, if these sections are to be given priority and treated first, India, its GDP, will not be first! Standard and Poor will not be proclaiming "India is first", India will not be the first destination for global super profit pursuing capital.
BJP's "Positive Secularism":
While there is debate on what constitutes secularism, and different countries adopt its own version, any standard textbook on secularism would educate us that the least that is required of a secular state is that the state distances itself from religious institutions, religious texts, religious education and expenses by state on religion. However, performance of BJP governments when it was in power was in the centre and in the states where it is in power is contrary to all understandings of secularism. While in Centre, Murli Manohar Joshi was the HRD Minister proposed teaching of Courses in Vedic Astrology, karmakand, yogic consciousness etc. as a subject for Higher education. The universities in India would be producing Hindu priests! If you teach Vedas, you are positive secularist, and if you teach Qur'an and Bible, one is pseudo secularist. Madhya Pradesh Government introduced teaching Gita in school and forcing schools receiving government grant-in-aid to teach yoga and perform surya namaskar, sing saraswati vandana to children belonging to all religious communities. BJP Govt. in Madhya Pradesh started sponsoring senior citizens travel to pilgrimage within India and the pilgrimage sites are the one which Hindus visit. Therefore a Muslim senior citizen would not join the pilgrimage! If Haj Pilgrims are being "subsidized", it amounts to minority appeasement, while if citizens are sponsored for pilgrimage to various holy sites in India, it is positive secularism! We condemn subsidy to Haj Pilgrims as well as any expenditure on religious belief of any citizen.
BJP has been demanding anti-conversion laws that seek state regulation of conversions from one religion to another. However, the Hindu nationalists have been forcibly converting Christians to Hinduism in Kandhamal district. Victims of anti-Christian violence in 2007-08 were forced to stay in relief camps and could not return to their villages and cultivate their land or rebuild their houses until they agreed to be converted to Hindu religion. Stringent conditions were forced on them – tonsuring their heads, levying heavy fines for following Christian religion in the past and promising to join mobs that attack Christians should the "village" decide to do so. While forcible conversion from any religion is termed by them as "ghar vapsi", even voluntary conversions to Christianity and Islam is stigmatized as conversion by force or inducement and a campaign is mounted against every conversion from Hinduism to Christianity or Islam. Most conversions from Hinduism to Christianity or Islam is due to the fact that upper-caste Hindus exclude and oppress dalits, whereas the oppressed hope to be treated with dignity and equality in the religion they are seeking to convert to. There are other reasons as well for voluntary conversions which we do not want to into here. Under BJP rule, the Rajasthan Assembly passed a bill providing that conversion to religion of one's forefathers (read Hindu religion) would not be considered as religious conversion! Under Modi's supremacy, Gujarat Assembly passed a bill amending its anti-conversion law to provide that conversion from Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism and Hinduism could continue unregulated, operating under the principle that Sikhism, Buddhism and Jainism were not separate religions, but sub-sects of Hinduism. The Gujarat Bill and Rajasthan Bill, both were not assented to by the Governor and were referred to the President of India. To force unwilling Christians to convert to Hinduism and to prevent the dalits from converting to Christianity or Islam is "India First" brand of secularism but to give the citizens freedom to follow religion of their choice is appeasement of minorities and following anti-national policies!
Anti-cow slaughter legislations in the country is becoming more draconian and an instrument of oppression of minorities in BJP ruled states. MP Govt. amended the legislation enhancing the punishment for cow laughter to 7 years imprisonment and shifting the burden of proof on the accused! Offences have been made non-bailable. Police have been authorised to enter kitchens if they suspect cooking or consumption of beef and seize vessels, equipments, storage (read refrigerator) etc. The law is indiscriminate and inhuman directed against minorities. It is being used to subjugate minorities. The anti-cow legislation have only one justification and one basis – religious practices of the Hindu upper-caste. Why should the state prescribe or regulate dietary preferences of citizens and enter their kitchens to enforce religion based ideology? Jains would similarly demand that state ban onions and garlic from consumption list of the citizens and Muslims would demand pork be banned! If the religion of Jains and Muslims is not being taken into account in proposing dietary prescription to citizens, why should that of upper caste Hindus be taken? Is it "India First" or upper castes first?
Moral policing
Hindu nationalists have vandalised M.F. Hussain's paintings on the grounds that they offend religious sensibilities of the citizens. M.F.Hussain was hounded out of the country using a combination of violence and misusing judicial proceedings. They prevented the film "Water" being shot in Varanasi. Bal Thackeray forced producers to cut scenes that were against his and his party's interests, even after the Censor Board approved it. Hindu nationalist have routinely imposed dress codes and opposed Valentine day, beaten up women in pubs, disrupted parties being organized by youngsters with boys and girls attending.
We could list many other measures, including the desire to impose upper caste family law on the entire nation in the name of uniform civil code and other things. For lack of space, we have to conclude here. India First is nothing else but Political Power First and imposition of patriarchal, feudal, hierarchical upper caste culture on the rest of Indians following rich and diverse cultural traditions, including egalitarian traditions. Diversity has taught the people to live in harmony and learn from various traditions through everyday interactions and further enrich themselves.
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Centre for Study of Society and Secularism
Mumbai.
 
 


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Kindly listen the phone conversation between criminal Mahmudur Rahaman and notorious Shuvro , the secretary of "Adhikar" .
He should have been arrested long time ago !!

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Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য .....




I lived 26 years of my early life in Bangladesh. I have not seen Hindu people are tortured in there. We had neighbor who were Hindu. I grew up with them. They are my rakhee sisters. My father arrange marriage for their sons and daughters. Kaka babu died and my dead tool care of all their family. They are our relatives.  We attended their poojas and they came to our Eid. When I read in this website I see so many things are written by some member which I have never came across. When I visit BD, I can come without visiting and eating from my Shukla didi' house.


>>>>>>>>>>> This is actually common picture of Bangladesh. I have similar friends and neighbors who often treat each other more like family members.

However Hindus of Bangladesh do face security issues during election time (Primarily not because of their religion but some of them get caught fights between BNP and BAL supporters). Here in Bangladesh we have serious security issues and law and order issues. People from all religious communities are victims of lawless political thugs who harass and attack weak people, grab their properties etc.

There are some isolated case of religious tensions but more than often these are effect of sick political games rather than religious caucuses.

Shalom!


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I lived 26 years of my early life in Bangladesh. I have not seen Hindu people are tortured in there. We had neighbor who were Hindu. I grew up with them. They are my rakhee sisters. My father arrange marriage for their sons and daughters. Kaka babu died and my dead tool care of all their family. They are our relatives.  We attended their poojas and they came to our Eid. When I read in this website I see so many things are written by some member which I have never came across. When I visit BD, I can come without visiting and eating from my Shukla didi' house. 


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On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:36 AM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:

Since you still have doubts about Modi (does not go well to your know it all guy persona!). It seems you are ignorant about a lot of "Contribution" of Sri Narendra Modi.

Shalom!


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Since when has the brain of shameless QR started functioning?  Most people in this forum know it as rotten.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:41 PM, QR <qrahman@netscape.net> wrote:
It is safe to say that, we are well pass the allegation phase with "Indian Tikka Khan" Sri narendra Modi. Hopefully the smart people among us will allow their brain to function.

Shalom!


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On Sun, 8/4/13, Subimal Chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য
 Date: Sunday, August 4, 2013, 6:47 PM
 

How do we justify Modi's instruction to the police officer: 
Let the people vent their anger (ref. a recent post in mukto-mona). 
How do we justify Vajpayee's annoyance with Modi: how long have 
I to watch the bloodshed? Forget about active imvolvement.
 Even all such passivity on the part of a seating CM is unpardonable crime. 

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On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:02 AM, Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com> wrote:


 
Involvement of Modi in Gujrat riots has never been proved.  One may look into the myth of Gujrat Riots inhttp://www.gujaratriots.com/.  In a land where H. S. Suhrawardy is adored as a prince of democracy(Ganatantrer Barputra), Modi should be treated as an angel, albeit of a Hindu variety.


On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
While I do not have a problem with Amartya Sen's comments regarding Chandam Mitra's demand for him to return the Bharat Ratna because he did not want Narendra Modi to be the Prime Minister of India, I probably would have handled the issue differently. If I were in Sen's shoes, I probably would have said something like, "my honorability has nothing to do with what Modi or BJP was, and I am ignoring Mitra's demand."

As for India's leaders influencing what goes on in Bangladesh, Modi could not be effective in secularizing Bangladesh; because he does not have a secular credential. However, talking theoretically, if India had no-nonsense secular people running the country, Bangladesh would have felt a lot more pressure to get its acts together; Bangladeshi Hindus would not have been going to India because of being victims of Muslim hatred and atrocities at their homeland of centuries.

SuBain


From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] মন্তব্যের জন্য ক্ষমা চাইবেন না অমর্ত্য

 
"Did Modi call that a "National Shame", Dr. Roy?"

My comment was not against Sen's remark about Modi, Dr. Bain. I said that - he has the right to do so.
My comment was, rather, on the subject of returning the Bharat Ratna medal and the tile to Vajpayee. This award has nothing to do with Modi.

Indian people know better who should be their Prime Minister. I am not in tune with their situations.
Whether Modi or someone else becomes the PM, things will not change much for Bangladesh. In fact, 2001 carnage on Hindus in Bangladesh happened during the BJP rule in India; India did not come forward to save the religious minorities in Bangladesh. So, what could be different if they come to power again? That's why - I don't care who becomes the PM.

As for our relatives in India, I am sure - nothing will change for them during another BJP tenure. They have been there before.

Thanks.

Jiten Roy



From: Sukhamaya Bain <subain1@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 4:49 PM
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Looks like Dr. Roy has missed the justification that I have provided in the last post below as to why "I also think that it was OK for Professor Sen to say that he would return it if Atal Bihari Vajpayee asked it back." Clearly, Dr. Roy has failed to think what he was talking about below about Narendra Modi. Professor Sen was not allergic to the award from Prime Minister Vajpayee, who was respectable enough to term the Gujarat Riots a "National Shame." Did Modi call that a "National Shame", Dr. Roy? Did Modi as the Chief Minister of Gujarat take the responsibility of the failure of his administration to stop the riots? Never mind who started it and how many were killed from what religious community, it was Modi's job to provide safety and security for all citizens of Gujarat.

As for the sorry state of affairs in Bangladesh, I agree with Dr. Roy.

As for India, while I am not a voter there, I do care about what kind of people leads that country. In spite of Dr. Roy's statement below, I have no doubt that he also cares about what kind of people leads India. Both he and I have too many friends and relatives in India, both of us know that the leaders of India can influence what happens in Bangladesh, our beloved motherland. Obviously, we probably have some differences in philosophies, and what the two of us want India to be might be somewhat different.

Sukhamaya Bain 

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From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 9:26 AM
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"I also think that it was OK for Professor Sen to say that he would return it if Atal Bihari Vajpayee asked it back."

May I know what the justification behind this comment is?
Let me ask you also - why didn't he decline to receive the medal and the title from Atal Bihari Vajpei if he was so allergic to this award?

As I said before, not supporting Modi is his legitimate right. But, being an academician and a Nobel Laureate, he should know better. The riot in Gujrat was the result of a statewide spontaneous mob outbreak from both sides, which resulted 31,000 arrests throughout the state, 80% were Hindus. Total 140 killed in Police firing, 80 of them were Hindus. In the first 3 days 100 were killed, 70 were Hindus. Let's remember, Indian communal riots are never one-sided. Prime Minister termed this disaster as a "National Shame." One BJP State Minister of Modi government has been hanged recently. Do you still think Modi and Indian government did not do enough? I believe - Modi is a victim of propaganda. Modi is banned from entry to USA as a result of propaganda campaign. Some people even compared him as Golam Azam of India. So on and so forth …

Educated people should not get carried away by prop



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