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Monday, April 17, 2017

[mukto-mona] Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot



Are you Anisur Chacha's  office assistant? If not, let the addressee answer/address the questions.

Anisur chacha, it would be great if you kindly put forward your full academic profile (starting from SSC/matriculation). That will help me decide whether I will be your student quickly.

Thanks.

 
 


On Monday, April 17, 2017 10:34 PM, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com> wrote:


If I am mistaken, that be nuclear radiation specialist in UK . What is your point  here, Amen bhadur.
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On Mon, 4/17/17, M Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
Cc: "Razzak Syed" <amsmel@aol.com>, "zainul abedin" <zainul321@yahoo.com>, "Outlook Team" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Quazi Haque" <quazi98@hotmail.com>, "RANU CHOWDHURY" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "Rashed Anam" <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>, "Pfc" <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Shahadat Hussaini" <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>, "Javed Helali" <jhelali2000@yahoo.com>, "Jalal Uddin Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>, "Quazi Nuru" <quazinuru@yahoo.com>, "Farida Majid" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Date: Monday, April 17, 2017, 10:05 PM

Anisur
chacha,
Could you
explain the degree titles you added after your name like
CRadP MSRP ....
Let's see... I might end up
being your student... What kind of jobs do I get if I have
one/all of those degrees?  BTW, from
which country did you bag those? USSR?


Sent
from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE
DROIDOn Apr 17, 2017 5:51 PM,
wrote:
Shahadat Hussaini:
can't you talk or place your view point like a normal
human being? Why do you have to bark like a dog? If you are
a member of the Suhrawardy family, then you are a disgrace
to the family. You could be my student or your teacher could
be my student. When and what degree did you
have?
- Dr A Rahman
CRadP MSRP FNucI
 



  On Monday, 17 April 2017, 21:21, Shahadat
Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

 

Big head Anis, you are as stupid as FM. We, the people
of Bangladesh, then East Pakistan did not embrace 'the
so-called secularism before 1972. There were no discussions
no talks on the subject even remotely or rhetorically ever
spoken by any political figure.
  It was forcefully shoved in to the nation  by another big
head Mr. .... Chandu. Mr.
Chowdhury, was referring only that.
Don't twist
knowingly you dumb headed, Lilliput.



Shahadat Suhrawardy,
member of a family who established Awami Muslim League
in 1948





From: ANISUR RAHMAN

Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:23 AM

To: RANU CHOWDHURY; Razzak Syed; Shahadat Hussaini

Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; Rezaul Karim;
Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi;
mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque;
Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru

Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina
under his hefajot
 



I am surprised Ranu Choudhury did not hear about
"Secularism" before 1972. Was he not born before
1972 or was he on another planet before that year?






FM was referring to the Two Nation Theory
(TNT) that culminated in two nations in 1947. This TNT was
not invented in 1947. The TNT is now totally discredited and
despised. Yes, the TNT had spawned into
  Three Nations and Bangladesh is the beneficiary.





But even the ardent Pakistani agents and
supporters would not argue that West Pakistani criminals and
Punjabi thugs wanted to impose Urdu in the then East
Pakistan in order to create Bangladesh. Bangladesh
  came into being, not as a result of a grand design or a
historical strategy, but as a result of geopolitical
machination. In this respect I fully agree with Ranu
Chowdhury that even Sheikh Mujibur Rahman did not anticipate
or even venture to utter the word
  "Bangladesh" before 7 March 1971. If he or
anybody else would have done that, that person would have
been imprisoned immediately for treason or even hanged. That
was the regime we lived in. Those people who now cry for
Pakistan should remember that.



- AR   











On Monday, 17
April 2017, 6:40, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com>
wrote:














"In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the
fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation
theory of 1947."--FM



Is it? Where, which sector she fought in 1971? In Agartala
or chokirtola? Some idiots keep crowing that people fought
to establish in Bangladesh "Secularism", a word no
Bengalis came across before January 10, 1972. Now another
(you know what) comes to say that
  the fight was against the 



IDEA of
Pakistan --
  against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 



Is it there in Mujib's 6-Points? Has anyone heard
it during the 1969 movement? During the 1970 election
campaign? During
  any of the talks between Mujib and the Pakistani junta in
January-March 1971? Mujib and Awami League participated in
the 1970 elections on the basis of President Yahya's LFO
which had guarantee clauses for the
  unity of Pakistan. Mujib's March 7, 1971 speech ended
with Pakistan Zindabad. Mujib negotiated with the junta
until March 25 for unity of Pakistan. So where does
the contrary idea about Two Nation Theory (TNT)show
up?



Shahadat Bhai put it rightly
when he said: "We fought for power share
  and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully
implemented two nation theory after emancipation of
Bangladesh." That is, it is because of  TNT, we won
Bangladesh. Otherwise, where would Bangladesh be? With
India? In the Bay of Bengal?




I am no fan of TNT, but it was necessary for the Muslims in
India in 1947. Even Nehru pushed for it. Mujib as a student
leader fought for it. 



FM should go back to basis history classes before
making such idiotic comments.




From: Razzak Syed

Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:33 AM

To: Shahadat Hussaini

Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN;
Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam;
Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com;
Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin;
Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru

Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina
under his hefajot
 


Thank you SHahadat Bhai. Keep us in your Doa's.



Razzak A. Syed







Sent from my iPhone








On 17 Apr 2017, at 9:16 am, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com>
wrote:









"The problem is that there too many
morons like Razzak are roaming around in Bangladesh and
beyond. These dimwits suffer from a congenital disease
called...' I do not study, I do not read, I do not think
and I do not care' syndrome. When people
  suffer from this chronic brain disease, they become
suddenly God's creatures, called Mullahs! "



The statement above fully characterizes Ms.
Bua. Her statement, "In 1971 we bravely fought
against,
  and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against
the 2-nation theory of 1947.", is totally a false
statement. We fought for power share and justice. As a
matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation
theory after emancipation of Bangladesh. 



The true shall
prevail, the falsehood will be destroyed by their own
activity and actions.



Razzak bhai,
don,t you be worried on what people like 'Bua'
says. 



Where is Mr.
Deeelder? 







From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>

Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:27 PM

To: Farida Majid

Cc: Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim;
Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU
CHOWDHURY;

mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi
Haque; Hussain Suhrawardy; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook
Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru

Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina
under his hefajot
 


Ms. FM,
   Your statement "In 1971 we bravely fought
against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan --
against the 2-nation theory of 1947."



Can you check the history and find out who was behind
the 2-nation theory and why? Current status of Bangladesh is
the answer to it. 




Razzak A. Syed







Sent from my iPhone








On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:22 am, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
wrote:






In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight
against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory
of 1947. 






























 
 




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Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot



These congenital Jamatis love to see their civil and religious rights to be sacrosanct in secular societies while they would not  extend such rights to their fellow minorities. That is the grand hypocrisy! These Haramzadas have no love for Trump, Le Pen or Geert Wilders. The reason is of course obvious! 
People who do not appreciate secularism in a foreign country, why not  they remove themselves to their non-secular gutters rather than keep kissing infidels' butts?


On Monday, April 17, 2017 7:10 PM, "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
I am surprised Ranu Choudhury did not hear about "Secularism" before 1972. Was he not born before 1972 or was he on another planet before that year?

FM was referring to the Two Nation Theory (TNT) that culminated in two nations in 1947. This TNT was not invented in 1947. The TNT is now totally discredited and despised. Yes, the TNT had spawned into Three Nations and Bangladesh is the beneficiary.

But even the ardent Pakistani agents and supporters would not argue that West Pakistani criminals and Punjabi thugs wanted to impose Urdu in the then East Pakistan in order to create Bangladesh. Bangladesh came into being, not as a result of a grand design or a historical strategy, but as a result of geopolitical machination. In this respect I fully agree with Ranu Chowdhury that even Sheikh Mujibur Rahman did not anticipate or even venture to utter the word "Bangladesh" before 7 March 1971. If he or anybody else would have done that, that person would have been imprisoned immediately for treason or even hanged. That was the regime we lived in. Those people who now cry for Pakistan should remember that.

- AR   


On Monday, 17 April 2017, 6:40, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:


"In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."--FM
Is it? Where, which sector she fought in 1971? In Agartala or chokirtola? Some idiots keep crowing that people fought to establish in Bangladesh "Secularism", a word no Bengalis came across before January 10, 1972. Now another (you know what) comes to say that the fight was against the 
IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 

Is it there in Mujib's 6-Points? Has anyone heard it during the 1969 movement? During the 1970 election campaign? During any of the talks between Mujib and the Pakistani junta in January-March 1971? Mujib and Awami League participated in the 1970 elections on the basis of President Yahya's LFO which had guarantee clauses for the unity of Pakistan. Mujib's March 7, 1971 speech ended with Pakistan Zindabad. Mujib negotiated with the junta until March 25 for unity of Pakistan. So where does the contrary idea about Two Nation Theory (TNT)show up?

Shahadat Bhai put it rightly when he said: "We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh." That is, it is because of  TNT, we won Bangladesh. Otherwise, where would Bangladesh be? With India? In the Bay of Bengal?
I am no fan of TNT, but it was necessary for the Muslims in India in 1947. Even Nehru pushed for it. Mujib as a student leader fought for it. 

FM should go back to basis history classes before making such idiotic comments.

From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:33 AM
To: Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Thank you SHahadat Bhai. Keep us in your Doa's.

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 9:16 am, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:

"The problem is that there too many morons like Razzak are roaming around in Bangladesh and beyond. These dimwits suffer from a congenital disease called...' I do not study, I do not read, I do not think and I do not care' syndrome. When people suffer from this chronic brain disease, they become suddenly God's creatures, called Mullahs! "

The statement above fully characterizes Ms. Bua. Her statement, "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947.", is totally a false statement. We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh. 

The true shall prevail, the falsehood will be destroyed by their own activity and actions.

Razzak bhai, don,t you be worried on what people like 'Bua' says. 

Where is Mr. Deeelder? 


From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Farida Majid
Cc: Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Hussain Suhrawardy; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Ms. FM,
   Your statement "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."

Can you check the history and find out who was behind the 2-nation theory and why? Current status of Bangladesh is the answer to it. 


Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:22 am, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 






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Anisur chacha,

Could you explain the degree titles you added after your name like CRadP MSRP ....

Let's see... I might end up being your student... What kind of jobs do I get if I have one/all of those degrees?
BTW, from which country did you bag those? USSR?



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
On Apr 17, 2017 5:51 PM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
Shahadat Hussaini: can't you talk or place your view point like a normal human being? Why do you have to bark like a dog? If you are a member of the Suhrawardy family, then you are a disgrace to the family. You could be my student or your teacher could be my student. When and what degree did you have?

- Dr A Rahman CRadP MSRP FNucI


On Monday, 17 April 2017, 21:21, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:


Big head Anis, you are as stupid as FM. We, the people of Bangladesh, then East Pakistan did not embrace 'the so-called secularism before 1972. There were no discussions no talks on the subject even remotely or rhetorically ever spoken by any political figure. It was forcefully shoved in to the nation  by another big head Mr. .... Chandu. Mr. Chowdhury, was referring only that. Don't twist knowingly you dumb headed, Lilliput.

Shahadat Suhrawardy,
member of a family who established Awami Muslim League in 1948


From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:23 AM
To: RANU CHOWDHURY; Razzak Syed; Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
I am surprised Ranu Choudhury did not hear about "Secularism" before 1972. Was he not born before 1972 or was he on another planet before that year?

FM was referring to the Two Nation Theory (TNT) that culminated in two nations in 1947. This TNT was not invented in 1947. The TNT is now totally discredited and despised. Yes, the TNT had spawned into Three Nations and Bangladesh is the beneficiary.

But even the ardent Pakistani agents and supporters would not argue that West Pakistani criminals and Punjabi thugs wanted to impose Urdu in the then East Pakistan in order to create Bangladesh. Bangladesh came into being, not as a result of a grand design or a historical strategy, but as a result of geopolitical machination. In this respect I fully agree with Ranu Chowdhury that even Sheikh Mujibur Rahman did not anticipate or even venture to utter the word "Bangladesh" before 7 March 1971. If he or anybody else would have done that, that person would have been imprisoned immediately for treason or even hanged. That was the regime we lived in. Those people who now cry for Pakistan should remember that.

- AR   


On Monday, 17 April 2017, 6:40, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:


"In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."--FM
Is it? Where, which sector she fought in 1971? In Agartala or chokirtola? Some idiots keep crowing that people fought to establish in Bangladesh "Secularism", a word no Bengalis came across before January 10, 1972. Now another (you know what) comes to say that the fight was against the 
IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 

Is it there in Mujib's 6-Points? Has anyone heard it during the 1969 movement? During the 1970 election campaign? During any of the talks between Mujib and the Pakistani junta in January-March 1971? Mujib and Awami League participated in the 1970 elections on the basis of President Yahya's LFO which had guarantee clauses for the unity of Pakistan. Mujib's March 7, 1971 speech ended with Pakistan Zindabad. Mujib negotiated with the junta until March 25 for unity of Pakistan. So where does the contrary idea about Two Nation Theory (TNT)show up?

Shahadat Bhai put it rightly when he said: "We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh." That is, it is because of  TNT, we won Bangladesh. Otherwise, where would Bangladesh be? With India? In the Bay of Bengal?
I am no fan of TNT, but it was necessary for the Muslims in India in 1947. Even Nehru pushed for it. Mujib as a student leader fought for it. 

FM should go back to basis history classes before making such idiotic comments.

From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:33 AM
To: Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Thank you SHahadat Bhai. Keep us in your Doa's.

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 9:16 am, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:

"The problem is that there too many morons like Razzak are roaming around in Bangladesh and beyond. These dimwits suffer from a congenital disease called...' I do not study, I do not read, I do not think and I do not care' syndrome. When people suffer from this chronic brain disease, they become suddenly God's creatures, called Mullahs! "

The statement above fully characterizes Ms. Bua. Her statement, "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947.", is totally a false statement. We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh. 

The true shall prevail, the falsehood will be destroyed by their own activity and actions.

Razzak bhai, don,t you be worried on what people like 'Bua' says. 

Where is Mr. Deeelder? 


From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Farida Majid
Cc: Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Hussain Suhrawardy; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Ms. FM,
   Your statement "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."

Can you check the history and find out who was behind the 2-nation theory and why? Current status of Bangladesh is the answer to it. 


Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:22 am, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 






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Posted by: M Aleem <aleem53@yahoo.com>


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Thanks Jalal Bhai for further elucidating secularism and TNT. 


I agree with AR on one point that the TNT is dead now. In fact, it started loosing its meaning from 1947 itself as the pigheaded Punjabi and military leaders of Pakistan renegaded from from its spirit and alienated and subjugated the Bengalis of East Pakistan for long 23 years. It is also true that TNT became Three Nations Theory (Th NT)with the creation of Bangladesh as an independent Muslim country. In other words, if there were no TNT, there would not be Th NT either.

I or any other Bengali of East Pakistan didn't have to know the word or meaning of "secularism" before January 1972 because nobody talked about it as a political, social or religious issue then (show me the evidence, if you disagree); it existed in the dictionary only. It is sad that a neo-apartheid, a neo-TNT is being imposed under the shelter of Secularism in Bangladesh today. However, this dichotomy will have to come to an end the soonest. One cannot ride a tiger for too long; the fall has to come.





From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:02 PM
To: ANISUR RAHMAN
Cc: Shahadat Hussaini; RANU CHOWDHURY; Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
"You could be my student or your teacher could be my student. When and what degree did you have?"

What a Doctorate? His above comments proves his devilish attitude. Who doesn't know his creator or the purpose of his life. Full of shit!!

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


> On 18 Apr 2017, at 7:51 am, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> You could be my student or your teacher could be my student. When and what degree did you have?



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Shahadat Hussaini: can't you talk or place your view point like a normal human being? Why do you have to bark like a dog? If you are a member of the Suhrawardy family, then you are a disgrace to the family. You could be my student or your teacher could be my student. When and what degree did you have?

- Dr A Rahman CRadP MSRP FNucI


On Monday, 17 April 2017, 21:21, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:


Big head Anis, you are as stupid as FM. We, the people of Bangladesh, then East Pakistan did not embrace 'the so-called secularism before 1972. There were no discussions no talks on the subject even remotely or rhetorically ever spoken by any political figure. It was forcefully shoved in to the nation  by another big head Mr. .... Chandu. Mr. Chowdhury, was referring only that. Don't twist knowingly you dumb headed, Lilliput.

Shahadat Suhrawardy,
member of a family who established Awami Muslim League in 1948


From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:23 AM
To: RANU CHOWDHURY; Razzak Syed; Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
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I am surprised Ranu Choudhury did not hear about "Secularism" before 1972. Was he not born before 1972 or was he on another planet before that year?

FM was referring to the Two Nation Theory (TNT) that culminated in two nations in 1947. This TNT was not invented in 1947. The TNT is now totally discredited and despised. Yes, the TNT had spawned into Three Nations and Bangladesh is the beneficiary.

But even the ardent Pakistani agents and supporters would not argue that West Pakistani criminals and Punjabi thugs wanted to impose Urdu in the then East Pakistan in order to create Bangladesh. Bangladesh came into being, not as a result of a grand design or a historical strategy, but as a result of geopolitical machination. In this respect I fully agree with Ranu Chowdhury that even Sheikh Mujibur Rahman did not anticipate or even venture to utter the word "Bangladesh" before 7 March 1971. If he or anybody else would have done that, that person would have been imprisoned immediately for treason or even hanged. That was the regime we lived in. Those people who now cry for Pakistan should remember that.

- AR   


On Monday, 17 April 2017, 6:40, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:


"In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."--FM
Is it? Where, which sector she fought in 1971? In Agartala or chokirtola? Some idiots keep crowing that people fought to establish in Bangladesh "Secularism", a word no Bengalis came across before January 10, 1972. Now another (you know what) comes to say that the fight was against the 
IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 

Is it there in Mujib's 6-Points? Has anyone heard it during the 1969 movement? During the 1970 election campaign? During any of the talks between Mujib and the Pakistani junta in January-March 1971? Mujib and Awami League participated in the 1970 elections on the basis of President Yahya's LFO which had guarantee clauses for the unity of Pakistan. Mujib's March 7, 1971 speech ended with Pakistan Zindabad. Mujib negotiated with the junta until March 25 for unity of Pakistan. So where does the contrary idea about Two Nation Theory (TNT)show up?

Shahadat Bhai put it rightly when he said: "We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh." That is, it is because of  TNT, we won Bangladesh. Otherwise, where would Bangladesh be? With India? In the Bay of Bengal?
I am no fan of TNT, but it was necessary for the Muslims in India in 1947. Even Nehru pushed for it. Mujib as a student leader fought for it. 

FM should go back to basis history classes before making such idiotic comments.

From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:33 AM
To: Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Thank you SHahadat Bhai. Keep us in your Doa's.

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 9:16 am, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:

"The problem is that there too many morons like Razzak are roaming around in Bangladesh and beyond. These dimwits suffer from a congenital disease called...' I do not study, I do not read, I do not think and I do not care' syndrome. When people suffer from this chronic brain disease, they become suddenly God's creatures, called Mullahs! "

The statement above fully characterizes Ms. Bua. Her statement, "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947.", is totally a false statement. We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh. 

The true shall prevail, the falsehood will be destroyed by their own activity and actions.

Razzak bhai, don,t you be worried on what people like 'Bua' says. 

Where is Mr. Deeelder? 


From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Farida Majid
Cc: Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Hussain Suhrawardy; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Ms. FM,
   Your statement "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."

Can you check the history and find out who was behind the 2-nation theory and why? Current status of Bangladesh is the answer to it. 


Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:22 am, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 






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Her (FM's) fight (if she had done any!) "against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."--FM" 

goes against her "fathers" of birth, Hussain Shaihid Suhrawardy and also young-lathial Mujib (who fought for Pakistan). 

Without Pakistan they would have been in the drudgery of Indian "dadas," and they should go back to the humiliation!

Zainul Abedin





On Monday, April 17, 2017 3:21 PM, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:


Big head Anis, you are as stupid as FM. We, the people of Bangladesh, then East Pakistan did not embrace 'the so-called secularism before 1972. There were no discussions no talks on the subject even remotely or rhetorically ever spoken by any political figure. It was forcefully shoved in to the nation  by another big head Mr. .... Chandu. Mr. Chowdhury, was referring only that. Don't twist knowingly you dumb headed, Lilliput.

Shahadat Suhrawardy,
member of a family who established Awami Muslim League in 1948


From: ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:23 AM
To: RANU CHOWDHURY; Razzak Syed; Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
I am surprised Ranu Choudhury did not hear about "Secularism" before 1972. Was he not born before 1972 or was he on another planet before that year?

FM was referring to the Two Nation Theory (TNT) that culminated in two nations in 1947. This TNT was not invented in 1947. The TNT is now totally discredited and despised. Yes, the TNT had spawned into Three Nations and Bangladesh is the beneficiary.

But even the ardent Pakistani agents and supporters would not argue that West Pakistani criminals and Punjabi thugs wanted to impose Urdu in the then East Pakistan in order to create Bangladesh. Bangladesh came into being, not as a result of a grand design or a historical strategy, but as a result of geopolitical machination. In this respect I fully agree with Ranu Chowdhury that even Sheikh Mujibur Rahman did not anticipate or even venture to utter the word "Bangladesh" before 7 March 1971. If he or anybody else would have done that, that person would have been imprisoned immediately for treason or even hanged. That was the regime we lived in. Those people who now cry for Pakistan should remember that.

- AR   


On Monday, 17 April 2017, 6:40, RANU CHOWDHURY <ranu51@hotmail.com> wrote:


"In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."--FM
Is it? Where, which sector she fought in 1971? In Agartala or chokirtola? Some idiots keep crowing that people fought to establish in Bangladesh "Secularism", a word no Bengalis came across before January 10, 1972. Now another (you know what) comes to say that the fight was against the 
IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 

Is it there in Mujib's 6-Points? Has anyone heard it during the 1969 movement? During the 1970 election campaign? During any of the talks between Mujib and the Pakistani junta in January-March 1971? Mujib and Awami League participated in the 1970 elections on the basis of President Yahya's LFO which had guarantee clauses for the unity of Pakistan. Mujib's March 7, 1971 speech ended with Pakistan Zindabad. Mujib negotiated with the junta until March 25 for unity of Pakistan. So where does the contrary idea about Two Nation Theory (TNT)show up?

Shahadat Bhai put it rightly when he said: "We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh." That is, it is because of  TNT, we won Bangladesh. Otherwise, where would Bangladesh be? With India? In the Bay of Bengal?
I am no fan of TNT, but it was necessary for the Muslims in India in 1947. Even Nehru pushed for it. Mujib as a student leader fought for it. 

FM should go back to basis history classes before making such idiotic comments.

From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 12:33 AM
To: Shahadat Hussaini
Cc: Farida Majid; Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Thank you SHahadat Bhai. Keep us in your Doa's.

Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 9:16 am, Shahadat Hussaini <ShahadatHussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:

"The problem is that there too many morons like Razzak are roaming around in Bangladesh and beyond. These dimwits suffer from a congenital disease called...' I do not study, I do not read, I do not think and I do not care' syndrome. When people suffer from this chronic brain disease, they become suddenly God's creatures, called Mullahs! "

The statement above fully characterizes Ms. Bua. Her statement, "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947.", is totally a false statement. We fought for power share and justice. As a matter of Lahore resolution got fully implemented two nation theory after emancipation of Bangladesh. 

The true shall prevail, the falsehood will be destroyed by their own activity and actions.

Razzak bhai, don,t you be worried on what people like 'Bua' says. 

Where is Mr. Deeelder? 


From: Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:27 PM
To: Farida Majid
Cc: Jalal Uddin Khan; ANISUR RAHMAN; Rezaul Karim; Mohammad Aleem; Javed Helali; Rashed Anam; Nuran Nabi; RANU CHOWDHURY; mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; Khoniker Othithee; Quazi Haque; Hussain Suhrawardy; Post Card; zainul abedin; Outlook Team; Pfc; Quazi Nuru
Subject: Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam now put Sk Hasina under his hefajot
 
Ms. FM,
   Your statement "In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947."

Can you check the history and find out who was behind the 2-nation theory and why? Current status of Bangladesh is the answer to it. 


Razzak A. Syed


Sent from my iPhone


On 17 Apr 2017, at 6:22 am, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:

In 1971 we bravely fought against, and WON the fight against the IDEA of Pakistan -- against the 2-nation theory of 1947. 






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