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Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.



Does this song makes him a Muslim? How about his so many ShreeKrishna Kirtan and Sama Sangit? Do they make him a Hindu? It does not.

This is your problem. Let me help you - Nazrul is not Muslim or Hindu, he represented humanity.

It is a totally hopeless deliberation, so this is my last comment on you.

Jiten Roy
 

From: "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.

 
Where have I said that Nazrul was a practicing Muslim? But he wrote Islamic sings like "tora dekhe ja Amina mayer kole". 

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
I have presented why I think - your thoughts are illogical. Think again - what is Kazi Nazrul Islam, as per your judgment? Was he a practicing Muslim, as you have presented him to be? 


From: "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.

 
I thought Jiten Roy knows how to play by rules. I can see bad influence of Kamal Das on him. Dr. Roy, you need to counter argue if you have the capability. You have to say exactly what I have said illogical and what is inconsistent in my message. If you can't do it, you need to pity yourself for ignorance or lack of clear understanding. 

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
He is our resident Moulana Chakraborty, isn't it - Dr. Das? He knows all about Islam, otherwise he could not be our Moulana for nothing. He possesses the most inconsistent mind in the forum; no one can follow his mind - it wonders around all over. He brought Poet Kazi Nazrul Islam in the discussion to prove that ISIS is not following Islam, and they are not real Muslims, as Kazi Nazrul Islam was. Go figure!
Jiten Roy 
 

From: "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.

 
We have a devout Muslim in this forum by the name of Mr. Chakrabarty. Like an ordinary Muslim he hasn't read any version of Sirat al Nabi, Hadith by Bukhari, Gazzali and others, or the Holy Quran. Though he finds Hindu traditions deplorable, he is full of praise for Islam. "Swadarme nidhanam sreya, parodharma bhoyabaha", though a verse written under the influence of Islam, does not impress him. He pretends to be a Hafiz, but in reality, he is a Mafiz.

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:12 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Nazrul was a free-thinker. I would not drag him here. If a cognitively alert Nazrul were alive today in Bangladesh, he would be asking bigger trouble than Rushdie and Nasrin. He was a human first...man!
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:57 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Moreover John Kerry's statement is a political statement. Kerry does not want to see Islam through the eyes of the ISIS leaders. Also he does not want to read scriptures between lines as this is nothing but a fundamentalist attitude. This is a time when, as America thinks, a broader coalition is needed to fight ISIS. World leaders must take this fact into cognizance. I don't see any wisdom in ridiculing Kerry or his statement. This is meanness. 

Nazrul found greatness in Islam. Again beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. How do you look at the line from Nazrul "Araber nabi karunar Chhobi"?

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On Nov 6, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Abul Kasem abul88@hotmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
No wonder PC master Secretary John Kerry says: Islam is the beautiful 
 
Wonderful, John Kerry--
After you lose your job as Obama's side-kick, you will get the job of an Imam in a Saudi Arabis.
Saudis will love you--
 
AK

 

Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:27:50 -0500
Subject: Re: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.
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Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.



In the post Google age, remaining such an ignoramus as this Mawlana is difficult.

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On Nov 27, 2014, at 11:12 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 
What I say, I should be able to back it up with arguments. If not, I should not bring it up. Meaningless blanket statements on any topic will not go unchallenged. If that does not happen, it will show intellectual bankruptcy of members of this forum.
Mr. Chakraborty always tries to be politically correct. He puts neutral comments with bunch of innocuous statements; such hunky-dory statements are waste of time. If I have nothing to say on a topic, I don't need to poke my nose in it. He was defending Islam as a peaceful religion, which is fine; any Moulana will do that also. Mr. Chakraborty expresses himself as an atheist, but wants to defend Islam. Is it normal? I don't think so. I want to know why he is taking such stand on Islam. He should be able to defend his position. 
I did not give him this title, it was given to him many years back by someone in this forum for his similar comments on Islam; I just repeated it. I am not ganging on him, I am asking him to justify his comments. That's all.
Jiten Roy
  
 

From: "ANISUR RAHMAN anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.

 
Jiten Roy is at it again, blaming and abusing others - Subimal Chakrabarty in this instance - for saying non-racist things. How mean minded a person could be to call Subimal Chakrabarty by 'Moulana'? It looks like Jiten Roy has ganged up with Kamal Das to bully Subimal Chakrabarty. This is simply disgraceful and unworthy of discussions in a moderate website. 

- AR  


From: "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014, 0:00
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.

 
I thought Jiten Roy knows how to play by rules. I can see bad influence of Kamal Das on him. Dr. Roy, you need to counter argue if you have the capability. You have to say exactly what I have said illogical and what is inconsistent in my message. If you can't do it, you need to pity yourself for ignorance or lack of clear understanding. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 26, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
He is our resident Moulana Chakraborty, isn't it - Dr. Das? He knows all about Islam, otherwise he could not be our Moulana for nothing. He possesses the most inconsistent mind in the forum; no one can follow his mind - it wonders around all over. He brought Poet Kazi Nazrul Islam in the discussion to prove that ISIS is not following Islam, and they are not real Muslims, as Kazi Nazrul Islam was. Go figure!
Jiten Roy 
 

From: "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.

 
We have a devout Muslim in this forum by the name of Mr. Chakrabarty. Like an ordinary Muslim he hasn't read any version of Sirat al Nabi, Hadith by Bukhari, Gazzali and others, or the Holy Quran. Though he finds Hindu traditions deplorable, he is full of praise for Islam. "Swadarme nidhanam sreya, parodharma bhoyabaha", though a verse written under the influence of Islam, does not impress him. He pretends to be a Hafiz, but in reality, he is a Mafiz.

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:12 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Nazrul was a free-thinker. I would not drag him here. If a cognitively alert Nazrul were alive today in Bangladesh, he would be asking bigger trouble than Rushdie and Nasrin. He was a human first...man!
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss





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[mukto-mona] DDD 176. REPORT OF INDIA’S EMERGENCE [1 Attachment]

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Dhaka daily dish, 176th Issue, 27th Nov '14
 
Dear All
As we can not change our neighbor, we are to live with reality.
Automatically, India comes in the forefront.  And we like it or not
India comes with its huge image- to the level of over shadow our
existence.  But what India is in reality ?  A highly contradictory
picture of India is placed here- to help widen your idea on India.
Haque, Lowell, MA, USA.
 
REPORT OF INDIA'S EMERGENCE
AS A GREAT POWER ARE BOGUS
The India Myth is that the ubiquitous reports of India's emergence as a
Great power are bogus. The road is long, the advance slow and the arrival
date uncertain. Rajan Menon is the Anne and Bernard Spitzer Professor of
Political Science at the Colin Powell School, City College of New York/City
University of NY, and Non-Resident Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council.

NEW RUSSIAN STEALTH JET FIGHTER CALLED
'SUPER WEAPON' GIVING RUSSIA EDGE ……
Posted in: NewsPosted: November 26, 2014, Yahoo
Russia is developing the new super fighter together with India, which is
kicking in 25 percent of the T-50 program's $20 billion projected cost.  Each
T-50 PAK FA stealth jet fighter costs about $50 million to build. Russia is
India's second-biggest supplier of weapons, behind only the United States.
 
বেওয়ারিশ লাশের শহর দিল্লি
যুগান্তর ডেস্ক : ০৮ নভেম্বর, ২০১৪
বেওয়ারিশ লাশের শহর দিল্লি। ভারতীয় পুলিশের রেজিস্ট্রার খাতার হিসাব মতে, দেশটির গুরুত্বপূর্ণ
শহর দিল্লিতে বছরে ৩ হাজারেরও বেশি বেওয়ারিশ লাশ উদ্ধার করা হয়। কোনো অভিযোগ নেই,
নেই কোনো তদন্ত- পুলিশ সাধারণত এসব লাশ রেললাইনের আশপাশ ও সড়কের পাশ থেকে উদ্ধার
করে। প্রায়ই নগ্ন অবস্থায় এসব লাশের সন্ধান মেলে। পুলিশ ও হাসপাতাল …….



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Re: [mukto-mona] RE: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.



A blunt prejudice! I have no extra love for Das and Roy. But, I do find them more to be in the 'right' side than you. That is my opinion. 

You are a good man with plenty of political correctness. It is not secret that you too make some great points in the forum. But this time, I simply could not see your point of bringing Nazrul in the discussion. He would have been a dead murtad in current Bangladesh. The man might not even moved to Bangladesh? He was a man beyond of his time. I am sure he had very vague idea about Islam and its history. So, writing few superficial lyrics does not make him a good follower of Islam.

I would not really put you in the same basket with the Moulanas like QR and Hannan but you would be the one who could in principle agree with those two imbeciles in certain issues. Again, that is my personal opinion and observation.

Happy Thanksgivings to all Muktomonas!
-SD
 


On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 8:41 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
It was expected that Deeldar would also join the chorus. I am taking all their comments as jokes and enjoying them. I would request Das-Roy-Deeldar to do a conference call and jointly disprove my points. Please do not hit me under the belt. Play by the rules. Let us make the debate meaningful. If you don't have knowledge, patience, or analytical capability, please stay out of it. Please don't be blinded by love or hatred. Be rational and analytical. 

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
As a good brahmin he has been doing a great job to keep the flame burning... now that QR and Hannan guys have abandoned from this forum. Yes, the man loves political correctness and that is OK with me.
-SD
 


On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:34 PM, "Kamal Das kamalctgu@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
We have a devout Muslim in this forum by the name of Mr. Chakrabarty. Like an ordinary Muslim he hasn't read any version of Sirat al Nabi, Hadith by Bukhari, Gazzali and others, or the Holy Quran. Though he finds Hindu traditions deplorable, he is full of praise for Islam. "Swadarme nidhanam sreya, parodharma bhoyabaha", though a verse written under the influence of Islam, does not impress him. He pretends to be a Hafiz, but in reality, he is a Mafiz.

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On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:12 PM, "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Nazrul was a free-thinker. I would not drag him here. If a cognitively alert Nazrul were alive today in Bangladesh, he would be asking bigger trouble than Rushdie and Nasrin. He was a human first...man!
-SD
 
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss



On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:57 PM, "Subimal Chakrabarty subimal@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Moreover John Kerry's statement is a political statement. Kerry does not want to see Islam through the eyes of the ISIS leaders. Also he does not want to read scriptures between lines as this is nothing but a fundamentalist attitude. This is a time when, as America thinks, a broader coalition is needed to fight ISIS. World leaders must take this fact into cognizance. I don't see any wisdom in ridiculing Kerry or his statement. This is meanness. 

Nazrul found greatness in Islam. Again beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. How do you look at the line from Nazrul "Araber nabi karunar Chhobi"?

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On Nov 6, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Abul Kasem abul88@hotmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
No wonder PC master Secretary John Kerry says: Islam is the beautiful 
 
Wonderful, John Kerry--
After you lose your job as Obama's side-kick, you will get the job of an Imam in a Saudi Arabis.
Saudis will love you--
 
AK

 

Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 15:27:50 -0500
Subject: Re: ISIS is hell-bent to establish real Islamic Caliphate in the middle-East just like Prophet Muhammad did in the 7th century Medina.
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