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Tuesday, July 19, 2016

Re: [mukto-mona] Anti-Terror ad in Bangladesh



My assumption is recruiters are not using religious arguments to convince these youngsters, who are not religious, join the fight at all. They may be using extreme form of communal propaganda, which could be propaganda of mistreatment of Muslims by non-Muslims around the world to set fire in the young minds to draw their attention and, then, garner their willingness to do something about it.
Once someone gives a slight nod to do something about it, he/she will be hurriedly taken to the camp (the Lion's Den), and get introduced to others.
Once this introduction happens, it will be almost impossible to change their mind, even if they don't like their idea. In other words, they are stuck, and become a robot thereafter. If you break the secret, you and your family is in grave danger. This is a Mafia technique.    
This type of emotional plea, as shown in the clip, may not be effective as deterrent against the possibility of getting involved, because – many youngsters will buy into it unknowingly. Only way to prevent youngsters from being entangled into such danger is through active campaign openly against buying into such propaganda.

Pat

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Shah DeEldar shahdeeldar@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Apprehend before it is too late. God got no more virgins available for these sex-starved idiots!




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[mukto-mona] Anti-Terror ad in Bangladesh



Apprehend before it is too late. God got no more virgins available for these sex-starved idiots!


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Posted by: Shah DeEldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com>


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http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=585

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Re: [mukto-mona] An offer from a terrorist



In another words, Bangladesh has become a Indian burden even after 45 years of age? What did India do right after 1975 military coup? Nothing! What did India do in 1981 when Zia was replaced by Ershad? Nothing! Did India pressure Ershad for democratic election in 1990? No! Bangladeshis fought for it and they won it. So why this damn wish is that India should be guarding our freedom and democracy? Are people subconsciously acknowledging the Indian supremacy and want them to tell us which way to go? When should Bangladeshis grow up and form a government that they want?
I do not see any relevance to what Shusma says or does in India. That is a matter for the Indians to judge. India, China and US are not our parents. Swim or sink are the only options available at this point.


On Monday, July 18, 2016 6:37 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
"The truth is Sushma Swaraj said in 1992 that you can encash Ram Janmabhoomi movement only once and we have done that."
Did India become Ram Janmabhomi because of what she said in 1992? I don't think so. I don't see your point bringing this meaningless mention here. I thought you will educate me about Babri-massacre.  
"The democratic process of Bangladesh was slaughtered by the election of January 5th with the full support of Indian government. I can't speak for BNP because I am not a supporter of BNP but I know BAL refused to participate in the General Election of 2007 because the "Caretaker Government at that time was not perfect". Even a fool won't participate in an election under a political government in Bangladesh. "
You said earlier that – Sushma Swaraj destroyed democracy in Bangladesh. I was waiting for that reply, and you have not articulated it in the above argument. What you have said, instead, is - 5th January election killed democracy. How could an election kill democracy? Does this statement make sense to you?
You said – even a fool will not participate in an election under a political government in Bangladesh? In that case, you may never be able to cast your vote in your life. My friend, BNP is already participating in the local government elections under a political government already?
 
Jiten Roy



From: "Enam Haque enam28@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] An offer from a terrorist

 
The truth is Sushma Swaraj said in 1992 that you can encash Ram Janmabhoomi movement only once and we have done that.

The democratic process of Bangladesh was slaughtered by the election of January 5th with the full support of Indian government.
I can't speak for BNP because I am not a supporter of BNP but I know BAL refused to participate in the General Election of 2007 because the "Caretaker Government at that time was not perfect". Even a fool won't participate in an election under a political government in Bangladesh.


On Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:42 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
SD Said: "If I really understand Mr. Haque's frustrations, I say, he wants implicitly Shusma to pressure Hasina for a real election."
Think about which party actually destroyed democracy is Bangladesh. There has been two general elections, and BNP, instead of taking part in them, they did everything to stop it. To stop election, BNP cadres burned polling centers, bus full of passengers, and burned/killed innocent people and religious minorities. If this is the democratic behavior of the only opposition party in Bangladesh, there is no need for the (so called) real election.
Problem is - BNP has no real political ideology, and real political history to be proud of. The creator of BNP, General Ziaur Rahman, launched a Military coup to interrupt a concerted national campaign, under the leadership of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, to establish a socialist economic system in the new-born Bangladesh. Ziaur Rahman did not come to power to establish a Parliamentary democracy; in fact, his goal was to bring back opponents of independence movement to power.
Bottom line is – there is no viable alternative to Awami League. So, country needs to wait for the 'normal election' until another viable alternative opposition to Awami League develops. Until then, election will not be 'normal.'

Jiten Roy



From: "Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] An offer from a terrorist

 


I would not hold my breath for a good answer. Indians have chosen their government and they will decide again to throw them out or not depending on government's performance. The same can't be said about any Muslim dominated countries except very few like Turkey and Indonesia. Bangladeshi democracy would depend on Bangladeshis and not Shusma's love for democracy. If I really understand Mr. Haque's frustrations, I say, he wants implicitly Shusma to pressure Hasina for a real election. The question is, why should that be that India's burden?


On Monday, July 11, 2016 6:08 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
Mr. Haque,
Can you please expand on - how Sushma Swaraj was 'instrumental' in 'Babri-Massacre' and how she destroyed democracy in BD. Also, could you explain - what is Babri-Massacre?
If you throw statements only, without making proper arguments for them, as you did here, it is hard for me to understand.


From: "Enam Haque enam28@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] An offer from a terrorist

 
Off course, she is a terrorist. She was one of the major team player of Babri Massacre. She was instrumental in destroying democracy of Bangladesh. All the achievement of BD will be gone without democracy. Last thing a member of BJP wants a peaceful BD.




On Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:13 PM, "Jiten Roy jnrsr53@yahoo.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 















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Mukto Mona plans for a Grand Darwin Day Celebration: 
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http://mukto-mona.com/wordpress/?p=68

http://mukto-mona.com/banga_blog/?p=585

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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
               -Beatrice Hall [pseudonym: S.G. Tallentyre], 190





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