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As I stated earlier, if BGB starts shooting, they will killing many more Bangladeshis than Indian smugglers. No wonder, why they don't shoot. Go and figure out the ground realities around the border areas if you care.
More Indians are flocking into Bangladesh because Indian Rupees are down? What have you been smoking, bud? Why can't BGB catch one?
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
Indians are not trespassing our territory but we do.
>>>>>>> Don't know which planet do you live in. Indians do tresspass time to time. Sometime by mistake and sometime intentionally. Lots of arms (Around election time), drugs, cows, fruit, sari etc enter Bangladesh (These things cannot walk themselves in). We are talking about good worth billions of dollars.
Now that Indian money worth less (Lost it's value against taka) we are witnessing more tresspassing of human and goods.
Fortunately our BGB does not have savage mentality consistently shown by Indian BSF.
I see NO good reason of defend savages.
Shalom!
-----Original Message-----
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
You should be volunteering for that shooting job, bro. If you shoot moving objects at night with your night vision goggles on, you will realize at the dawn that you have mainly killed our Bangladeshi brothers and sisters. Indians are not trespassing our territory but we do. You know very well why is that.
"I speak for the trees, for the trees have no tongues."
-Seuss
From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:43 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] FW:
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:03:56 +0600
Subject:
From: bdmailer@gmail.com
To:
Idno-Bangladesh border: শুধু একপক্ষ গুলি করে মানুষ হত্যা করে : ভারত-বাংলাদেশ পৃথিবীর একমাত্র সীমান্ত
* সীমান্তে ইসরাইল গুলি চালিয়ে ফিলিস্তিনিদের হত্যা করে। * ফিলিস্তিনিরাও গুলি চালায় ইসরাইলের ওপর।
* ভারতের অভ্যন্তরে ঢুকে যায় চীন। * ভারত গুলি নয়, প্রতিবাদ করে।
* পাকিস্তান গুলি চালায়, ভারতীয় সেনা হত্যা করে। * ভারত গুলি চালিয়ে প্রত্যুত্তর দেয়, আগে গুলি চালায় না।
* বাংলাদেশ-ভারত সীমান্তে শুধু ভারত গুলি চালিয়ে বাংলাদেশি হত্যা করে। * গুলি তো দূরের কথা, বাংলাদেশ সবসময় প্রতিবাদও করে না।
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I do not think the fence is effective but I do agree Indian can put up five fences on their land if they wish.
My point is very simple.
India does NOT need to murder unarmed poor people from Bangladesh. It does NOT help India in the long run. India needs to do more to have good relations with all her neighbors. India is living in last century. In 21st century world, we have to grow attitude to work together.
That is why they got the fence. Are you deaf and dumb?
We should migrate to the countries where we are invited and welcome. It is not worth to take a bullet for the Indian adventure.
>>>>>>>>> That was NEVER the point I was making. I am NOT asking India to pour milk and honey on trespasser. As long they are unarmed, they do not need to shoot them down like animals.
Why it is so difficult for you to understand. If you spend a little less time on name calling, maybe your brain will get the needed rest for processing simple ideas like this one.
Shalom!!
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2013 7:45 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
Armed or non armed, we got no business there in India. We can can think whatever we like but we should respect territorial integrity of other countries as we expect the same from the others. It might not be a Sweden but they do not want us trespassing their land. That is why they got the fence. Are you deaf and dumb?
We should migrate to the countries where we are invited and welcome. It is not worth to take a bullet for the Indian adventure.
-Seuss
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
There is no doubt that those who are getting killed by the BSF must be trying to trespass the Indian border illegally for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>> Sure. India is like Sweden and if we could just land in it, our lives will be filled with Indian milk and honey??? Right?
And, the BGB is hardly killing anybody from India is because - no one is crossing the Bangladeshi border illegally
>>>>>>>>> , Now that is funny. Thanks for the laugh.
Or, BGBs are sleeping on the job, and not protecting the border.
>>>>>>>> Sure, you (Sitting in the US) know that Indians cannot make any mistake and all BGB are sleeping on their jobs? All dumb asses. This post is such a joy ride.....
>>>>>> I have been to India and have a firm understanding of how they operate. They have many problems (Like we do here). They have some major issues with ALL of their neighbors. Just calling like I see it. You are welcome to think "Freely" as well.
I like to think of myself as "Pro-Bangladesh" and have no irrational emotion against India. If India violate norms of civilized people when dealing with our people in border area, I do not need to endorse it. If you have a problem with it, you just have to learn to respect MY opinion (Even if you disagree with it). I get along fine with Indians at personal level but my country will always be my first priority (protecting it's people). Don't expect any apology coming your way anytime soon for having this view.
Shalom!
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 1, 2013 9:27 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
There is no doubt that those who are getting killed by the BSF must be trying to trespass the Indian border illegally for whatever reason. And, the BGB is hardly killing anybody from India is because - no one is crossing the Bangladeshi border illegally. Or, BGBs are sleeping on the job, and not protecting the border. But - these simple logical conclusions cannot even get through the closed minded people. I think it is because of their firm anti-Indian sentiment.
From: Kamal Das <kamalctgu@gmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
More Indians are flocking into Bangladesh because Indian Rupees are down? What have you been smoking, bud? Why can't BGB catch one?
-Seuss
From: QR <qrahman@netscape.net>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
>>>>>>> Don't know which planet do you live in. Indians do tresspass time to time. Sometime by mistake and sometime intentionally. Lots of arms (Around election time), drugs, cows, fruit, sari etc enter Bangladesh (These things cannot walk themselves in). We are talking about good worth billions of dollars.
Now that Indian money worth less (Lost it's value against taka) we are witnessing more tresspassing of human and goods.
Fortunately our BGB does not have savage mentality consistently shown by Indian BSF.
I see NO good reason of defend savages.
Shalom!
From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 30, 2013 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] FW:
-Seuss
From: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>
To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 9:43 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] FW:
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 13:03:56 +0600
Subject:
From: bdmailer@gmail.com
To:
* সীমান্তে ইসরাইল গুলি চালিয়ে ফিলিস্তিনিদের হত্যা করে। * ফিলিস্তিনিরাও গুলি চালায় ইসরাইলের ওপর।
* ভারতের অভ্যন্তরে ঢুকে যায় চীন। * ভারত গুলি নয়, প্রতিবাদ করে।
* পাকিস্তান গুলি চালায়, ভারতীয় সেনা হত্যা করে। * ভারত গুলি চালিয়ে প্রত্যুত্তর দেয়, আগে গুলি চালায় না।
* বাংলাদেশ-ভারত সীমান্তে শুধু ভারত গুলি চালিয়ে বাংলাদেশি হত্যা করে। * গুলি তো দূরের কথা, বাংলাদেশ সবসময় প্রতিবাদও করে না।
http://www.shaptahik.com/v2/?DetailsId=8466
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Dear all,
Last two posts below demonstrate the fundamental problem of Mukto-Mona.
These pundits want to comment on Islam but do not have even primary idea of the subject.
Even a child will tell you that do not buy something you can't afford. You pulled out a completely vacuous statement, which tells everything about you.
>>>>>>>> Actually it speaks volume about YOU. As per Islam marriage is not only about money. In this case a man is expected to treat (If he has more than one wife) equally. Which includes how much time he spends with one. So if one spend one day with one wife, it is expected to spend the next day with the other wife. Same condition goes for housing, expenses etc. If there is a dispute, one has to judge them equally.
It is far beyond money. The noble Qurán stress this point and says a man will be accountable in front of God for this. So if a God fearing person is unsure about being fair to more than one wife, it is better to marry ONLY ONE.
it is important to mention. Since NO other religious book has this codified law in them. NONE!!
It shows that either you don't see the other side of the argument or you don't give a damn about the other side.
>>>>>>>>>> If you had an open mind about my opinions, you could have said, it shows that I have studied other religious books to know this for a fact. Based on your opinions, it appears you are not aware of Islamic values but sadly too eager to say ugly things about Islam and attack anyone who dares to disagree with such absurd point of views.
I don't know – how you see "fairness" in a totally unfair statement. It amazes me every time you say something; it gives me a glimpse of the mindset of a religious person.
>>>>>>>>> Fairness is an unfair statement?? Please explain yourself.
---Do you realize that you are speaking on behalf of all religions, all moralists, and even all socio-economic systems that want to give a woman dignified position in the society. The restriction is not exclusively Islamic.
>>>>>>>> I ONLY explained what Islam says (That is why I started by saying, as per Islam....). I have NOT said anything about any other faiths. Don't know why you even bothered to reply?
-----Look at the condition "if you cannot deal with more than one wife FAIRLY)". Why do you think the prince who spent $13 million in one night for a dancer (his woman for the night) cannot deal with more than one wife fairly? A more progressive view should be not to allow a man to have more than one wife. The "if" clause has to be dropped. If a man can have multiple wives and women, a woman should be allowed to have multiple husbands and men.
>>>>>>>>> brother dealing with one wife fairly is not easy. Ask any married man. So if one decides to marry more than one, it is even more difficult. The Qurán is a progressive book (My opinion), so even 1400 years ago it spelled out the obvious. If you still doubtful, ask any married man anywhere in the world. It takes a lot of work to make marriage work.
Those who want to be safe in the day of judgement, it is better to marry only one.
As the society is progressing, all religions are found to be interpreted as allowing a man only one wife and a woman only one husband. Even in ancient India this used to be emphasized on.
>>>>>>>> Not always true. What if a couple want to have kids and the wife is not able. what if the wife have other physical problems? Islam allows to have more than one wife without abandoning the first wife. Also there are so many cases of extra marital affairs. It is better to marry someone than treating a lady like a prostitute (and depriving her for her rights over husband).
If you refer to the Koran or Islam on every issue, you simply make things more misleading as the half-educated and illiterate mollahs will advocate for the dogmatic views of a religious book. And this will make transition to one man-one woman union very difficult as basically no religion has accepted this as a strict principle.
>>>>>>>>>>> If half educated people (about Islam) get over their obsession about blaming Islam for everything, I do not need to speak about Islam so much. I refer to the text of Islam to offer references and to add quality (And credibility) to our discussions.
I have NEVER said anyone has to agree with me. I simply want to share factual information about Islam (when we discuss Islam here).
Therefore, I am NOT advocating Islam to you but explaining it to this forum. Since most people (Even with Muslim sounding names) do not know about Islam. Hopefully my effort will make lives of half educated mullahs even more difficult. They cannot get away with bluffing people about Islam anymore.
Lastly, I have tried to use religion to bring people closer ( I have quoted from Veda, Bible as well). That is the fundamental difference between my approach and those who want to sell Islam for worldly gain.
Shalom!
From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, Sep 2, 2013 3:25 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Saudi Arabia Passes Domestic Abuse Ban For First Time
"The Qurán is the ONLY religious book that says, Marry only one (If you cannot deal with more than one wife FAIRLY)."
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