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Re: [mukto-mona] Dr. A. H. Jaffor Ullah passed away



It is a sad day for me. Jaffor Ullah was great fearless voice of humanity and more specially of minorities. He was a good friend of mine, so a personal loss too.

Ajoy Roy



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Re: [KHABOR] RE: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।



Only Razakars talk in the language you do. We hate Razakars and we don't want to argue with you.

Sent from my iPhone:
Dr Gholam Mostofa
Former Chairman, Dhaka WASA
Bangladesh

On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Mr. Mostofa:
In name you are a Golam of prophet Muhammad (SA) but in words and acitivity you showing your self a 'Golam' of a political party. You can be 'Golam' of anything you wish but you have to keep you civility in words in public forum like this one. Please refrain from slendering personaly to anybody. You may disagree to anything, any idea or any party, that's your prerogative.
One thing you should know that we did fought for our independence because of power, parity, and polarization of the then coterie not for anything else that divided the Indian sub-continenet. That is true and will remauin true notter how much you cry.
 
For your kind information read the paragraph in quotation.
 
"১৯৭১-এর পরিস্থিতি ছিল খুবই জটিল। আওয়ামী লীগের অন্য নেতারা ভারতে গেলেও শেখ মুজিব চেষ্টা করেননি ভারতে যেতে। যদিও তিনি ভারতে যেতে চাইলে যেতে পারতেন খুবই সহজে। শেখ মুজিব ঠিক কী চেয়েছিলেন, আমরা তা জানি না। ১৯৭৪ সালের ৩০ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতরের সেক্রেটারি হেনরি কিসিঞ্জারকে ঢাকায় কথোপকথনের সময় বলেন, ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধ ছিল গৃহযুদ্ধ (Civil war)। তিনি ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলে উল্লেখ করেননি। তার এই কথোপকথনের দলিল ছিল গোপন। ২০০৭ সালের ১১ অক্টোবর মার্কিন পররাষ্ট্র দফতর থেকে এই গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। মার্কিন যুক্তরাষ্ট্রে প্রতি ৩০ বছর পরপর অনেক গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হয়। কারণ, মনে করা হয়, এসব গোপন দলিল প্রকাশ করা হলে সুবিধা হবে ইতিহাস গ্রন্থ রচনার। শেখ মুজিব কিসিঞ্জারের সাথে কথালাপের সময় ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মুক্তিযুদ্ধ না বলে কেন গৃহযুদ্ধ হিসেবে উল্লেখ করেছেন, তা আমরা বলতে পারি না। যদিও আওয়ামী লীগ ১৯৭১-এর যুদ্ধকে মহান মুক্তিযুদ্ধ বলেই উল্লেখ করে থাকে। শেখ মুজিব কী চেয়েছিলেন তা অন্য কারণেও আমরা বলতে পারি না। শেখ মুজিব ১৯৭০ সালে নির্বাচন করেছিলেন ইয়াহিয়া খান প্রদত্ত লিগ্যাল ফ্রেমওয়ার্ক অর্ডার মেনে। যাতে বলা হয়েছিল, পাকিস্তান হবে একটি প্রজাতন্ত্র। পাকিস্তানের রাষ্ট্রপ্রধান সব সময় হবেন একজন মুসলমান, আর রাষ্ট্রিক আদর্শ হিসেবে পাকিস্তান মেনে চলবে ইসলামি ভাবাদর্শ। শেখ মুজিব এই শর্তগুলো মেনেই করেছিলেন নির্বাচন। এর মধ্যে কোথাও ছিল না পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দেয়ার কথা। শেখ মুজিব তার ৭ মার্চের বিখ্যাত ভাষণে বলেছিলেন, তিনি হলেন পাকিস্তানের মেজরিটি পার্টির নেতা। তিনি নিজেকে ঘোষণা করেননি পূর্ব পাকিস্তান অথবা বাংলাদেশের নেতা হিসেবে। ভোটের রায় মানলে সাবেক পাকিস্তান ভেঙে যেত এরকম ভাবার কোনো কারণ নেই। শেখ মুজিব সাবেক পাকিস্তানকে ভেঙে দিতে চাননি। তিনি ৮ জানুয়ারি বর্তমান পাকিস্তান থেকে মুক্তি পেয়ে যান লন্ডনে। সেখানে গিয়ে সাংবাদিক এ্যান্থনি মাসকারেনহ্যাসকে বলেন, তিনি পাকিস্তান ভেঙে দিতে চাচ্ছেন না। বর্তমান পাকিস্তানের সাথে রাখতে চাচ্ছেন একটা বিশেষ সম্পর্ক।
 
Shahadat Suhrawardy.
 

From: Gholam.Mostofa@smec.com
To: drmohsinali@yahoo.com
CC: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com; rakhalbandho@gmail.com; shahadathussaini@hotmail.com; mostofa@acebd.com; bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com; khabor@yahoogroups.com; alochona@yahoogroups.com; chottala@yahoogroups.com; bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 10:12:15 +1000
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

Dr Mohsin, 
Don't try to teach these Pakistani bandits like Rakhal. They should be tried in the International Crimes Tribunal and hanged.

Sent from my iPhone:
Dr Gholam Mostofa
Former Chairman
Dhaka WASA

On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:52 AM, "Dr. M. Mohsin Ali" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com> wrote:

HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW WE FOUGHT AND LIBERATED BANGLADESH FROM HIS LOVING PAKISTAN. THEY ARE STILL DREAMING FOR THEIR PEAREY PAKISTAN. IT WAS NOT AWAMI LEAGUE, BUT ZIA WHO KILLED THE MOST FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN THE ARMY INCLUDING COL. TAHER AND THE CIVILIAN AND PUT THOUSANDS OF FREEDOM FIGHTERS IN JAIL INCLUDING MAJOR JALIL, MAJOR ZIA UDDIN AHMED AND THOUSANDS MORE.

PAKISTANI DALAS, STOP THESE NUISANCE FALSE PROPAGANDA.

A FREEDOM FIGHTER.



From: "Mostofa, Gholam" <gholam.mostofa@smec.com>
To: Rakhal Bandho <rakhalbandho@gmail.com>
Cc: Shahadat Hussaini <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>; "mostofa@acebd.com" <mostofa@acebd.com>; bangladeshi googlesgroups <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>; "khabor@yahoogroups.com" <khabor@yahoogroups.com>; alochona <alochona@yahoogroups.com>; chottala yahoogroups <chottala@yahoogroups.com>; mokto mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>; bangladesh-progressives googlegroups <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:55 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: সংখ্যাগরিষ্ঠ মানুষ মুক্তিযুদ্ধের পক্ষের।

 
This Rakhal is the son of a Paki Razakar. Why should we listen to them?

Sent from my iPhone:
Dr Gholam Mostofa

On Aug 20, 2013, at 5:25 AM, "Rakhal Bandho" <rakhalbandho@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr. Jabbar does not know that after the great victory of 1971 election through the votes of freedom lover Bengalis Shiekh Mujib wanted to be the President of Pakistan but the arrogant Bhutto became a big hurdle for Mujib and that people of this country did not tolerate. Later the MuktiJoddha started without the participation of leaders of Awami League who fled to India. After retuning from India these buggers started the concept of Muktijudher Pokkhay and Bipokkhay as they were not able to claim themselves as freedom fighters though later they distributed Freedom fighter certificates. Interestingly they put the real Muktijuddhas in jail by designating them GonoBahini... That is the reason people danced in the streets of Bangladesh after the fall of BAKSAL...
Where this Mr. Jabbar was living at that time?    

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM,


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Re: [mukto-mona] Flash riot: Echo of Jamaat/shibir/hefajoti technique & principles



By committing all these heinous acts Muslim Brotherhood is justifying more and more the military takeover. Personally I believe in the power of people. Their crystallized verdict was being gradually reflected in the anti-Morsi democratic movement. I am not sure how secular, democratic, and patriotic the Egyptian army is, but forced eviction of Morsi did not seem to be a proper step the army took. I am afraid that this will make Morsi, an Islamist (anti Shia and promoting a specific Islamic line named Salafists and also a fascist showing minimal respect for democracy and trying to consolidate his power for ever), would come back to power with double the popularity. A counter coup can push the country to a civil war


>>>>>>>> Basically I agree with your sentiment.

Just wanted to add that, Mursi was not salafi. In fact the Saudi government is supporting USA, Israel in giving tactical support this military regime. Unfortunately such desperate anti-democratic moves do not bring good results in the long run but personally I do not think MB is coming back anytime soon. Powerful friends of the dictator Mubarak are working in concert to bring him out of jail within hours from now.

Very interesting time in Egypt.


Shalom!


-----Original Message-----
From: subimal chakrabarty <subimal@yahoo.com>
To: mukto-mona <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Flash riot: Echo of Jamaat/shibir/hefajoti technique & principles

 
By committing all these heinous acts Muslim Brotherhood is justifying more and more the military takeover. Personally I believe in the power of people. Their crystallized verdict was being gradually reflected in the anti-Morsi democratic movement. I am not sure how secular, democratic, and patriotic the Egyptian army is, but forced eviction of Morsi did not seem to be a proper step the army took. I am afraid that this will make Morsi, an Islamist (anti Shia and promoting a specific Islamic line named Salafists and also a fascist showing minimal respect for democracy and trying to consolidate his power for ever), would come back to power with double the popularity. A counter coup can push the country to a civil war.     

From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 1:02 PM
Subject: [mukto-mona] Flash riot: Echo of Jamaat/shibir/hefajoti technique & principles
 
In order to understand the latest rioting tactics of Jamaat/Shibir /Hefajot in the streets of Dhaka or cities of Bangladesh you have look at the Jehadist International terror techniques. Follow what is going on in Egypt (CNN report) and see if you can recognize - - -

<< Said Angaelos, "The ferocity and the speed with which it all happened ... was quite surprising."

Burning of books

A Bible Society of Egypt statement posted online Wednesday reported the "complete burning and destruction" of its bookshops in the cities of Assiut and Minia, in southern Egypt.

"Fortunately we were closed today, fearing such an attack, so none of our staff were injured," wrote Ramez Atallah, the society's general director. "The attackers demolished the metal doors protecting the bookshops, broke the store windows behind them and set the bookshops on fire."

Other stores and parked cars on those streets were also destroyed, he said. >>

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/15/world/meast/egypt-church-attacks/


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