I am glad to note that you are coming to some senses. Congratulations for that.
Mr. Ejaz, I believe that we have different priorities. My first priority is price of potato. Your financial position is much elevated than me so it is not a matter of concern for you. Instead, as you said your concern and no. 1 priority is that Hasina and Khalida should be removed as prime ministerial candidates.
Mr. Ejaz, as a common man in
Mr. Ejaz, when this CTG came to power, everybody (of course with some exceptions), was happy because their drive was against corruption. What they are conspiring now to pardon the same very corrupt businessmen by forming truth commission. These very businessmen are responsible for the price hike in the country. I along with all sensible citizens smell rat in it. There must be some underhand deal which hopefully will come to public after 2008 election (if there will be).
Mr. Ejaz did I ever said that living abroad is weakness in such matters. I failed to understand what weakness you are talking and what matters you are mentioning? But I tell you there are many people who are living outside the country but understand the problem of a common man in the country.
Mr. Ejaz who is responsible for the slave wages of Bangladeshi workers in the
You proudly said that Bangladeshi laborers are providing massive chunk of foreign exchange to the country. You forget to say how. An unskilled laborer has to spend Taka 150,000 to 200,000 to go to a Middle Eastern country. Generally, his contract is for 3 years and his salary per month is Taka 3500 to Taka 4000. Means if he save every penny he makes still he can not retrieve all he spend to come over. So what is the only choice for him, part time job or illegible means? Did you saw it? No because your priority no. 1 is different. It may hit your ego but I don't mind if they are "dirty cleaner" as long as they don't have to spend that much to go abroad and they are paid properly.
And Mr. Ejaz I did not call you dishonest when I said and I quote" don't make Khaleda and Hasina scapegoats for your dishonesty." Unquote. That was a figure of speech only and I never meant you. Anyway I apologize for that.
And you are talking about the reforms in political system imposed by CTG. We have seen the very dirty example of it today for BNP. Just wait and see how many days it last. Are you looking for this type of reforms?
In more thing Mr. Ejaz. It is none of your business to say who should keep his wife, who should divorce her and who should not be allowed to divorce her. I know you are an elite and an intellectual. Everybody can not think like you but you don't have any right to impose your opinion on others like this way.
And Mr. Ejaz I know it antagonizes you but I am telling you again and I will tell again and again that we may not be No.1 nation in the world but definitely we not nation of beggars. We do have some self respect. Mr. Ejaz tell me honestly, do you belong from Jamaat? Otherwise you should have little bit of self respect as a nation.
As I said in the beginning, my priority no.1 is my survival. I can survive only if the price of potato is within control. To me it does not matter much who is running the Government as long as people's will is respected and I can survive. I can not argue with you further as your priority is different. You are least bothered about people's choice but only want Hasina or for that matter Khaleda should not be the prime minister. So whom you want to be the prime minister? Nizami or Mujahid?
With lot of regards
Junaid
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
>
> Lets keep it even more simple.
>
> My only concern is that Hasina and Khaleda should be removed as prime
> ministerial candidates. They can be in jail or paradise or Baridhara -it makes no difference to me. It is my only concern because this is the number one priority. Until these two are removed there can be no real reform. Period.
>
> Fakhruddin and his men are not above the law or above criticism. You must urge them to change approach or policies if needed. However
> many pretend they want the CTG to succeed but actually they want it
> to fail. Their attacks are poorly disguised (to me) as constructive
> criticism. And they are hardly ever challenged.
>
> Price spirals and economic slumps are nothing new. The suffering of
> our people is nothing new. The insult to people's intelligence and to
> people's integrity is nothing new. The sliding taka is nothing new.
> The common man having to urinate in the street is nothing new. Please
> don't justify your points with these arguments. The common man
> deserves much more than the talk of cheap potatoes. He needs a
> lasting solution to the political malaise in the country.
>
> You presume too much in saying living abroad is a weakness in such
> matters. The country has been ruined from the inside – not the
> outside. Rather I would say you don't care that a million of your
> countrymen - with Deshi passports - are forced to work abroad for slave wages and provide a massive chunk of our foreign exchange – and are called miskin. Come here to the Middle East and talk of your sovereign pride when Bangladeshi is an Arabic word for dirty cleaner.
>
> I didn't say we were sentimental beggars. I said if what you say is
> true then we are sentimental beggars.
>
> Don't use the language of politicians – it's an easy bluff to say we
> may not be the number one nation but we are this or that. We are one
> of the most corrupt countries in the world with one of the most
> ridiculous politics in the world – that is talking facts and facing facts. Admit it. That is all I want.
>
> What about 2008? If what you want happens – then Hasina and Khaleda
> return as before. That makes you happy? Why?
>
> REFORMS ARE NOT THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS OF POLITICAL PARTIES. Spare me
> the democratic bravado. Moeen is pandering to the media. If he is a realist he knows these two parties cannot really reform with Hasina and Khaleda as leaders.
>
> Reforms are on the table BECAUSE of the CTG. Not because of what you
> imagine are really noble democratic ideals in Bangaldeshi politics.
>
> How am I making Hasina and Khaleda scapegoats for my dishonesty?
> Please explain. Even now you, along with many others, protect them.
> It is ridiculous and far more insulting than anything I have said.
>
> For I have said we can move forward without them.
>
> And you say – however discretely - we cannot move forward without
> them.
>
> You are praying for the CTG to leave with dignity. Thanks. Me too.
>
> When are you ever going to pray for Hasina and Khaleda to leave with
> dignity?
>
> I am not a blind supporter of CTG. This country was not – and has not
> been ruined – by blind supporters of the CTG.
>
> IT HAS BEEN RUINED BY BLIND SUPPORTERS OF HASINA AND KHALEDA.
>
> But you don't like talking about the real causes of our actual problems. So lets talk about the price of potatoes instead.
>
> Regards
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" junaid.sultan@
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Ejaz
> >
> > I am sorry that I failed to make your eyes open. It is not good for
> > you and for the nation if very learned people like you are blind
> > folded. Please re-read what you have written. I very firmly believe
> > that you yourself will not feel good. I urge you to cool down. I
> and
> > you know that you are arguing for the sake of argument only
> > otherwise your arguments have no substance. Mr. Ejaz use of
> > difficult words will not let you win the argument. Simple and plain
> > words will make you understand better.
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, if I am not mistaken you are not living in Bangladesh. It
> > seems that you are least bothered about the suffering of commoners
> > in the country. Yours only and only consideration is that Khaleda
> > and Hasina are in jail. Do you realize the sufferings of common man
> > by price spiral? The economy of the country is sliding. But for you
> > it hardly matters, as your Kuwaiti Dinar is giving you more
> > Bangladeshi takas as price of taka is falling constantly. You are
> > still in the game of cards. Man, life is not a game of cards. In
> > real life spade is a spade and it is not the spade of cards.
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, I don't know about others but I will take it lightly when
> > you call ours a nation of sentimental beggars. After all you are
> > living in a place, where may be you are called "Muskeen" all the
> > time and that remains in your conscious and sub-conscious. We may
> > not be no.1 nation in the world but definitely we are not nation of
> > beggars.
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, did you ever thought what is going to happen after
> > December 2008. Oh! I am sorry. I should not ask you this question.
> > Anyway your posting is full of contradictions. About reforms, I
> will
> > suggest you to see what your beloved Gen. Moeen had to
> say, "Reforms
> > are internal affairs of political parties."
> >
> > Mr. Ejaz, if one is dishonest, what may be the level of it; he
> > cannot justify it by stating that past Governments were dishonest.
> I
> > again say, don't make Khaleda and Hasina scapegoats for your
> > dishonesty. It is not at all acceptable to a common man. But you
> are
> > a very special man.
> >
> > Last not the least, Mr. Ejaz since you are not living in the
> country
> > I am telling you some of the readings on the wall today in
> > Bangladesh. People are talking and concerned about the double
> > standards of CTG. But why should I tell you this as you are a blind
> > supporter of this CTG. However, just pray with me that this CTG
> > leaves power with dignity. We don't want any more bloodshed in the
> > country.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Junaid
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Junaid
> > >
> > > You have every right to call a spade a spade – as long as you
> don't
> > > run out of cards. By all means criticize – but you know well there
> > > are different types of criticism.
> > >
> > > What exactly was your sumptuous choice before Fakhruddin? Lets
> > have some honesty, some modesty. We not only suffer from
> mediocrity –
> > we suffer from mediocrity AND delusions of grandeur.
> > >
> > > What exactly makes you feel so politically wealthy? What are the
> > many
> > > options you have? After AL barristers and BNP barristers throw
> > chairs at each other in the courts what do you think is next in our
> > great democratic journey?
> > >
> > > Your own message betrays the delusions – however sincere – that
> > > blight our nation so cruelly -
> > >
> > > 1. AL and BNP have been ruining the social fabric of the nation
> for
> > > two decades. Yet you can still say this CTG, after less than a
> > year,
> > > is not far behind? You are kidding sir.
> > >
> > > 2. I can see the strong wall of honesty of the CTG - two dozen
> > > citizens – showing cracks. How would you describe the wall of
> > honesty
> > > of AL and BNP governments – more or less honest than the CTG? The
> > > wall was a sham and it is smashed in comparison with the CTG.
> > >
> > > 3. Even now you have the notion we should not make Hasina or
> > Khaleda
> > > scapegoats! What are they? Gods? Is it something about us Bengalis
> > > that doesn't mind two women ruining the country? That we would
> > rather
> > > see them free, running proudly through our green fields, regularly
> > > dumping on the nation's integrity and future?
> > >
> > > 4. Putting Hasina and Khaleda in jail does NOT turn them into
> > > heroines! Heroines for who? You? Or for a nation of sentimental
> > > beggars? They are not heroines for the majority and this theory is
> > > broadcast only by those who think we aren't capable of much. You
> > can
> > > breathe without Hasina and Khaleda - today. Try it.
> > >
> > > 5. The same ladies who drove our country to disaster are needed to
> > > hold the country together, to initiate and to apply sweeping
> > reforms.
> > > Because? Because you don't think we can handle affairs without
> > them.
> > > Why? Its disgraceful. Its shameful. Its pathetic. Its insulting.
> > >
> > > 6. Hasina and Khaleda are responsible for the mess – NOT the CTG.
> > The
> > > parties were only talking of reform BECAUSE THE CTG APPLIED
> > PRESSURE.
> > > Don't flatter yourself that the parties were ready for the reform
> > the
> > > nation is crying out for. They have neither the character nor the
> > > guts nor the tools to challenge the mafia within them. It is the
> > CTG
> > > that is setting the agenda for reform – not the parties. You may
> > wait
> > > another 10 years for the parties to reform but some know the
> > country
> > > can't wait that long - just to pander to political fantasies.
> > >
> > > They belong in jail. For what they have done, what they have
> > allowed
> > > to happen and for what they are preventing from happening. But you
> > > are worried about consequences. For 20 years you have seen the
> > > consequences of their freedom. But still it is not enough.
> > >
> > > They won't go abroad for a couple of years. They won't resign.
> They
> > > won't won't admit their faults. They won't compromise in their
> > > personal feuding. They won't sacrifice a term. They won't sweep
> > aside
> > > all their corrupt members.
> > >
> > > But you still think we need them?!!! I suggest any man who thinks
> > we
> > > need Hasina and Khaleda should be legally denied the right to
> > divorce
> > > his wife under any circumstances. After all, he should continue
> > > suffering just as he wants the nation to suffer with these two
> > > ladies!
> > >
> > > Or maybe we are nation of Dr Frankensteins - we just can't live
> > > without the monsters we have created?
> > >
> > > If you are right then I am totally convinced – we are indeed a
> > nation
> > > of beggars. Because our politics beggars belief.
> > >
> > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > Kuwait
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "junaid.sultan" <junaid.sultan@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The events prior to 1/11 are eye-openers so it is time for
> > everyone
> > > > to open their eyes. We as a nation can not afford to have blind
> > > > supporters of any group. Sorry to tell you Mr. Ejaz, but we are
> > > not
> > > > beggars. We are and we want to be choosers. We have every right
> > to
> > > > call spade a spade. If the past AL or BNP governments with
> theirs
> > > > blunders have brought the country to the brink of disaster, the
> > > > present CTG is not trailing behind with a long distance. Their
> > > > failure list is much longer than their successes. The very
> strong
> > > > wall of the honesty of CTG is showing cracks. You should be
> able
> > to
> > > > see if you are not blind. We should be watchful of each and
> every
> > > > step of this Government and every future Government. Do we need
> > to
> > > > be critical of a Government after expiry of their term (in this
> > > case
> > > > it is 2 years, hopefully) or give them the opportunity to
> rectify
> > > > themselves during their tenure? And don't make scapegoats. We
> > have
> > > > heard enough of these scapegoats in the past. Enough is enough
> > now.
> > > >
> > > > Some may be over joyous that Hasina and Khaleda are in jail.
> They
> > > > are too blind to think about the consequences? The nation had
> > > > started ignoring these two ladies. People were talking about
> > > reforms
> > > > in political parties. By putting them in jail you have made them
> > > > heroes (or herions) again. Since they went in jail no body is
> > > > talking about reforms in political systems. Even Gen. Moeen had
> > to
> > > > say that reforms are internal affairs of political parties.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Not so blind
> > > >
> > > > Junaid
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Shamim Chowdhury" <veirsmill@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Ezajur Rahman, Bad people and Bad politics of Islam must
> be
> > > > removed
> > > > > not only from Bangladesh but all parts of the world.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Shamim Chowdhury
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > ---
> > > -
> > > > -----\
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are not allegations against
> > Hasina
> > > or
> > > > > > Khaleda. They are proven facts. Nothing to do with 'after a
> > long
> > > > > time'. After Mujib - Hasina! After Zia - Khaleda!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If this CTG is guilty of the same you may criticise it -
> but
> > the
> > > > > > blame lies with Hasina and Kahleda for creating this
> > situation
> > > in
> > > > > > the first place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not praying like the rest of the crooks and thieves and
> > > > > > murderers for a return to AL and BNP governmnet like before.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bad people are praying twice as hard as party people for
> > > > democracy.
> > > > > > Because Bangladeshi democracy protects and promotes
> criminals
> > > and
> > > > > > thieves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have no problem with the family ties in this CTG because I
> > > > believe
> > > > > > it was done like this to maintain control in an emergency
> > > > situation.
> > > > > > We have 5 years to judge AL and BNP - we can wait another
> > year
> > > to
> > > > > > see the result of the CTG.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the emantime - how times have changed! Hasina and Khaleda
> > > > spent
> > > > > > Eid in jail!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That makes it all worthwhile!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Miracles do happen!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Allhamdullilah!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, mahathir of bd
> > > > > > wouldbemahathirofbd@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nepotism and family dynasty are two common allegations
> > > against
> > > > Al
> > > > > > and BNP. But this evil deeds became prevalent after a long
> > time
> > > > of
> > > > > > their power.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But our so called angel government showed nepotism and
> > > > > > family dynasty from the beginning by appointing brother in
> > law
> > > > and
> > > > > > sister in law as advisers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > blind supporters of cTg then said that they are qualified
> > > > > > persons.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No see how qualified they are .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.amadershomoy.com/news.php?id=205729&sys=1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And if we critisize the CTG , the blind suporters think
> > that
> > > > > > we are supporting AL or BNP.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From the begining it was clear to me that this CTG run by
> > > > > > reactive and inexperienced and destructive people will bring
> > > > > > hardly any good to Bangladesh when we will make the balance
> > > > sheet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > ---
> > > -
> > > > ----
> > > > > > --------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > Subhan Allah- Only Allah flawless
> > > > > > > Alhamdulillah - All praise to be of Allah
> > > > > > > Allahhuakbar - Allah, the Greatest
> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > ---
> > > -
> > > > --
> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------Would
> > Be
> > > > > > Mahathir of BD
> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > ---
> > > -
> > > > --
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > > If it can be imagined, it is possible- NEC
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > > > Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives
> > answers,
> > > > not
> > > > > > web links.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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