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Friday, November 9, 2007

[vinnomot] Re: [khabor.com] Close the Case of Re: Expatriate and Treason: Birds of a feather flock together

Mr. Shamim Chowdhury,
 
I still wonder why Mr. Shamim Chowdhury becomes so much angry and jumping upside and down after receiving my email where asking to provide if they are innocent of their allegation.  Do you have anything to hide?  Why do they worry if some one wants to points out their anti Bangladesh activities?  Are they control by any third party?  Are they intentionally destroying image of Bangladesh for certain people to get out from jail or for the love of a certain party in Bangladesh?  Do they have right to destroy Bangladesh and its 150 livelihood in the name of democracy, human rights and free speech?  Should we not have the right to know what they will benefit from destroying the image of Bangladesh in abroad?  Don't they know that foreign aid, investment, export markets,  livelihood of 150 million people depends on the good image of Bangladesh to outside world?  Why do they become so hungry for power in Bangladesh in the expense of 150 million general people in Bangladesh?  What is their real motivation, intention, and conspiracy against Bangladesh interest?
 
I think that we as general public we have the right to know from those cyber trouble makers for who mostly live in abroad in the name of expatriates.
 
I hope everybody will agree with me that we want better Bangladesh and hold bright image of Bangladesh in Abroad for the benefit and proposer of BangladeshBangladesh Govt needs to start investigation of any cyber terrorist against Bangladesh and its interest.  They have to be stopped if we want to save Bangladesh from their henious crime again humanity (destroying livilihood of 150 million people in Bangladesh).
 
Please do not email me with any others topics,  just focus what I have said and reply your answer with conviction.  Mr. Shamin if you need mud sliding , name calling, personal attacks, you can do outside of the forum and blogs.  You should not waste people time by through personal attacks since I know you enjoy very much doing that.  Lets do your fun outside of the forum, blogs etc.
 
Thanks for your understanding.
 
Regards,
M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
www.changebangladesh.com

naima CBd <naima.changebangladesh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Everyone:
 
This thread is pure poison. Please stop berating each other in the name of trying to find out each others intentions. There is little chance that we are not all being exploited and remember we the next generation is learning from all this. So, please DO STOP!
 
A little about Change Bangladesh (CBd)
 
The reason we started is we wanted to see creativity in political leadership, a way to understand Bangladesh's problems, a way to contribute, a way to help. We do many things that are not obvious.. all are to help the poorest of the poor. That is our intention. Not all members are logistically or ideologically the same. That would be boring. I will give everyone at Khobor this weekend on what exactly our Evaluation report from the field say about our Flood Work 07. No we havn't misused any funds. Every penny is under Kawsaer Bhai and my calculated. They are budgetted for, every ounce of salt to purifying tablet to pencil and books for the kids. Projects and opinion of board member are mutually exclusive. If you want to attack a person.. go ahead but you very well must Leave our projects alone, unless you wnat to improve it, join it or provide a poistive constructive help for the poor constituency its aimed at.

Naima
 
On 11/8/07, Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo.com> wrote:
Change Bangladesh is a fake organization led by some criminals like M.M. Chowdhury Mithu. I have doubt on what happened to donation they collected from expatriate Bangladeshi in the name of flood victim.
 
Also what happened to their pet project of nominating 50 expatriates for next upcoming election. I think Mithu collected money from people who were fooled by Change Bangladesh tall talk.
 
Thanks
Shamim Chowdhury
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--- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, "M. M. Chowdhury \(Mithu\)" <cgmpservices@...> wrote:
>
> Mr. Alam said, "I have no problem with extradition of criminals to and from a country where Fair Trial is not questionable?
>
> Most wanted "list of dissidents " prepared by Siddiky
>
> (1) Jamal Hasan Poplu
> (2) The Mukto-mona newsgroup by Avijit Chakrabarty,
> (3) Abul Hasnat Jaffor Ullah
> (4) Naeem Mohaimmen,
> (5) Asif Saleh,
> (6) Rezwanul-?
> (7) Lopa Tasneem,
> (8) Novita Rahman,
> (9) Tanweer Akram
> (10) Drishtipat news group
> (11) Tasneem Khalil
> From http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/khabor/ message/6024
>
>
> All,
>
> I like to close this case against allegation for the above listed individual by asking a depostion from each individual if they think they are unfairly convicted from the charges that was made by Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky's email.
>
> Please provide with facts and trail that his charges are false and provide evidence and lets close this subject for all and for good. If online community does not receive any depsoition/statement from them, we will think that they are quilty for those charges.
>
> Please forward this email to the above individuals as per deemed necessary.
>
> Thanks for your help and copperation to close this matter.
>
> Regards,
>
> M. M. CHowdhury (Mithu)
>
>
>
> Syed Aslam Syed.Aslam3@... wrote:
>
>
> Here you go again, Mr. M. M. Chowdhury !
>
> Either you are too novice or you are a very clever distortionist of the facts...
>
> Only person who has been sent back to Bangladesh is Lt Col (dismissed) Mohiuddin Ahmed, a
> condemned convict in the Bangabandu murder case [A convicted violent criminal as I have said].
> 21 year old Ehsanul Islam Sadequee, was picked up by the US Federal Bureau of
> Investigation ( FBI) on April 17, 2007 for investigation in a Jihadi Terrorism case.
> [This case is also known as The Georgia Connection case].
>
> Ehsanul Islam SADEQUEE is a United States citizen of Bangladeshi descent. He was
> born on July 30, 1986, in Fairfax, Virginia. The then State Minister for Home
> Lutfozzaman Babar told reporters, "No extradition treaty is needed for that,"
> he said.
>
> But, your (and CIA Siddiky's) main concern was cyber terrorists not Jihadi
> Terrorists or violent criminals. If Government wants to bring back dissidents and
> political opponents to Bangladesh by using words like Cyber Terrorism etc ..
> it is a big NO! NO! You have been living in USA for a decade, I expect that you already
> know about it.
>
> CIA Siddiky's main stratigy is to abuse and intimidate the people with opposing views.
> He and people like him have their mean and narrow political agendas ....
>
> You have maintioned "Why do you care what he says and you already said that I live
> in a fools paradise. I still do not understand why do you feel worry about bringing cyber
> terrorists back in Bangladesh to face the charges?"
>
> Yes, I do worry about the threat of trial of dissidents in Bangladesh in the name of
> " cyber terrorism" .... All political harassment must stop, no matter how the charges
> are packaged and framed !!!
>
> I have no problem with extradiction of criminals to and from a country where
> Fair Trial is not questionable?
>
> Most wanted "list of dissidents " prepared by CIA Siddiky
>
> (1) Jamal Hasan Poplu
> (2) The Mukto-mona newsgroup by Avijit Chakrabarty,
> (3) Abul Hasnat Jaffor Ullah
> (4) Naeem Mohaimmen,
> (5) Asif Saleh,
> (6) Rezwanul-?
> (7) Lopa Tasneem,
> (8) Novita Rahman,
> (9) Tanweer Akram
> (10) Drishtipat news group
> (11) Tasneem Khalil
> From http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khabor/message/6024
>
>
>
> Syed Aslam
>
>
>
> On 11/7/07, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) < cgmpservices@... wrote:
> Mr. Aslam,
>
> lol, he is not my buddy and I even do not know who is he.
>
> You just said that:
>
> "messages. Even if, United States sings an extradition treaty with Bangladesh, do you think USA will extradite someone back to Bangladesh for being political dissident who opposes an established opinion, policy, or
> structure? If you believe that any Government/establishment in Bangladesh can get hold of a dissident in USA
> [a Duel Citizen or a resident Bangladeshi citizen in USA ], you live in a fools paradise."
>
> Why do you care what he says and you already said that I live in a fools paradise. I still do not understand why do you feel worry about bringing cyber terrorists back in Bangladesh to face the charges?
>
> --M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
>
>
> Syed Aslam Syed.Aslam3@... wrote:
> WRT:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khabor/message/6110
> &
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khabor/message/6063
>
>
> Mr. M. M. Chowdhury
>
> He has asked for it ... He is getting it...
>
> If he is one of your buddies/cohort tell him that he should stop intimidating people through his blog-
> messages. Even if, United States sings an extradition treaty with Bangladesh, do you think USA will extradite
> someone back to Bangladesh for being political dissident who opposes an established opinion, policy, or
> structure? If you believe that any Government/establishment in Bangladesh can get hold of a dissident in USA
> [a Duel Citizen or a resident Bangladeshi citizen in USA ], you live in a fools paradise. A convicted violent
> criminal can be sent back to Bangladesh even without extradition treaty.
>
>
> You definition of "Bangladesh Interest" is very narrow, parochial and self-centered and may not be without
> some ulterior motives. You have mentioned:"People can instigate hatred, harm country in the name of
> democracy, free speech, human rights. Democracy, free speech, human rights are beautiful things if we can
> use properly, not against others."
> But you have coneniently omitted Religion from your "august list". More hate crime has been
> (and is being) committed in the name of Religion in this world than for democracy, free speech, human
> rights. Even today religious parochialism & fanaticism is the worst enemy of the people in Bangladesh
> and the mankind.
>
> See some oddacity in CIA Chowdhury's recent post:
>
>
> Are we out there to bash out those treasonous Awamis out of cybersphere? Absolutely.
> All Bangladeshis please be aware of those dual nationals engaged in treason. I recently met a very
> important and high ranking national security personnel from the Bangladesh Armed Forces who came
> to talk to my father in our home in Gulshan and after I was introduced, I have handed him a list of names of
> some expatriates and cyber activists who I think are responsible for canceling General Moyeen U. Ahmed's
> programs at Harvard and who at one time have cyber-campaigned against BNP and the people of
> Bangladesh.
> [see;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khabor/message/6024 ]
>
> By his own admission he is a snitch, an informer, without any self-respect.
> If you share yor personal ideology with that his, that's your business. For us that is utterly obnoxious and not
> acceptable.
>
> Now we know who you are, Mr Mithu. It is good for everyone, home and abroad,
> that you have taken off you masks. I was always apprehensive about your insidious intents and
> ChangeBangladesh doctrine......
>
> You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time,
> but you cannot fool all the people all the time.[Abraham Lincoln ]
>
> Sent by:
> Syed Aslam
>
>
> On 11/7/07, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) cgmpservices@... > wrote:
> All,
>
> I have failed to understand why many of you have jumped in the van wagon against Mr. Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky? My question is you should not worry about him if you have nothing to hide. Nobody should worry what he has said in the email if anybody has nothing to hide. I support the idea of Bangladesh sign extradite treaty with USA as soon as possible. Maybe I am too naive here.
>
> --M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu)
>
> Syed Aslam Syed.Aslam3@... wrote:
>
> wrt: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khabor/message/6079
>
> Dear Mr. Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky,
>
> Your writeups seem to reflect your perrsonal vendetta against
> your poor neighbour Jamal Hassan Poplu.
>
> You are only exposing yourself in public!
>
> I wonder, how many times you bite your lips, grind your teeth and utter Jamal Hassan Poplu's name throughout your days? Do use a Tasbi to keep track of your deily rituals?
>
> You have said: "There is only one group of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, it is called the group of Begum Khaleda Zia. There should be absolutely no doubt about that in anyone's mind."
> Just have a reality check on that.
> [http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=10605 ]
> More cats are comming out of the bags now.......
>
> You have said: "I have already given his name [of Jamal Hassan Poplu ]
> to the proper place for necessary action to be taken."
>
> Are you implying intimidation through your innuendoes?
>
> Can you elaborate on your "proper place" and "necessary action"?
> Is the place a Gulag run by DGFI in Dhaka and what do you mean by "necessary action" ? Torture ? or "complete obliteration"?
> Do you have your own Torture chamber somewhere hidden in your
> Zamindari from olden days? Or, is it new, decidedly under construction?
>
> What is going on???
>
> So long and bye.
>
> Syed Aslam
> PS: Jamal Hassan Poplu has been mentioned 6 times in
> Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky's posing below:
> Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky < gametheorist0001@... wrote:
> There is only one group of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party, it is called the group of Begum Khaleda Zia. There should be absolutely no doubt about that in anyone's mind.
>
> Jamal Hassan Poplu is an information terrorist who works for the United States government in Washington DC and lives in Maryland. He
> thinks that he is immune. Do you know why Sheikh Mujib's killers will never be brought back and tried in Bangladesh? For the same reason Jamal Hassan Poplu will not be brought back and tried in
> Bangladesh -- that is because there is no extradition treaty. This post is about the Expatriates and how they abuse their dual citizenship against the interest of Bangladesh. It is not meant to be a trade in abuse and personal attacks.
>
> Inshallah, if and when the next elected government is voted to power, we will introduce a bill for extradition treaty. Any country (including the United States) that chooses not to sign it, will not
> be given the privilege of dual-citizenship for all individuals of Bangladeshi origin in that country. That means, if the extradition treaty with the United States is signed, we will bring back Jamal
> Hassan Poplu along with the killers of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and have his trial with Sheikh Mujib's killer in the same court. If he is found guilty of treason along with the killers of Sheikh Mujib
> for murder, then we will hang Jamal Hassan Poplu with the killers of Sheikh Mujib on the same alter. This will be justice for all. I think Jamal Hassan poplu is just as much a criminal as the killers
> of Sheikh Mujib. If the killers of Sheikh Mujib can be allowed freedom, so can be Jamal Hassan Poplu. A freedom that he currently enjoys in the United States and a freedom that will not be long
> lasting. I have already given his name to the proper place for necessary action to be taken.
>
> As I said before, I will not entertain all your questions and personal attacks that do not relate to the precise subject of discussion of this post.
>
> Finally, in response to your quote from Samuel Johnson, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," you know what is patriotism and
> you know what are the attributes of a scoundrel. Unfortunately you do not know anything about the actual order of refuge of your presumed scoundrel in question. Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that this ignorance is certainly not bliss and your "little
> learning could be a dangerous thing." (improvised from Alexander Pope; An Essay on Criticism, 1709).
>
> Next time if you quote someone, please be literate enough to quote the souce as well. This is a scholarly convention. Unless you are
> something else. Which is certainly fine with me. lol...
>
>
> --- In khabor@yahoogroups.com , "Syed Aslam" < Syed.Aslam3@ wrote:
>
> WRT:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/khabor/message/6066
>
> Dear Mr. Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky Shaheb
>
> Would you please refrain yourself from accusing others, who have
> different prespectives than that of yours, for Treason and Terrorism? This seems to be a repeation of an age-old tactics in by the reactionaries in the maneuvors for keeping their hegimony in the political power structure and establishment. Are you still the Secretary, International, Diplomatic & Expatriate Affairs of The Bangladesh Nationalist Party. If so, which group you are in?
> Will General Moeen U. Ahmed planning join a reformed BNP at the
> end?
>
> I don't see anything special in your General Moeen U. Ahmed other
> than rethorics and "politically motivated speeches". He has failed to refute the
> accusation of his Taka 99 lakh loan from the Trust Bank as mentioned in it's prospectus. There are also accusations that he has faked his resume about graduating from Harvard over and over again. Only thing he attended was a weel long short course at the KSG and does attending short course make any one a Harvard Graduate? What do you think?
>
> Is it not a fact that he was one of *Khaleda Zia vis-a-vis Tarek Zia's fan*before being promoted to the position of the "Commander of the Bangladesh Army"
> [The Chief of the Army Staff (CAS) of the Bangladesh Army ]?
> I read in one of the back issues of Bangladesh Observer [the then
> Pakistan Observer]
> in microfiche that portrays Mr. Tanvir A. Siddiky as a NSF cadre.
> It mentions that when Ayub wanted to meet DU student leaders everyone rejected the offer, except for NSF. *NSF leader, Mr. Tanvir A. Siddiky and Mr.A.R. Yousuf met him for a parlor.
> *They saw **a Great man, a Great patriot in Ayub.* I see the same
> sychophant in your chorus* "God Bless Begum Khaleda Zia and God Bless, General Moyeen U. Ahmed".* Is this *Moshaheb Giri* *runs in the family?* What was Mr. Tanvir A. Siddiky's position on independent Bangladesh in late sixtees and in 1971?
>
> The corrupt politicians reflects only a corrupt society. If a society is corrupted,
> the Army would not be any exception. The institutional corruptions are
> equally important as the corruption at the personal level.
>
> Do you really know why Gen. Moeen U. Ahmed recently visited USA?
> What was happening behind the scene? How money was spent from the Bangladesh Government's exchequer for the visit including the cost for his entourage?
>
> In any case, I always look at the *Great Patriots* with a grain of
> salt: *Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel*.[Dr.Samuel
> Johnson*,*1775*].*
>
> I will wait and see how your *Great Patriot Ge. Moeen U. Ahmed*
> behaves during next 2 years and later.
>
> Syed Aslam
>
> On 11/6/07, Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky gametheorist0001@
> wrote:
> Bhai Aslam,
> We are all birds of the same Bangladeshi feather, we might not
> necessarily flock together. Neither do I change my feather often.
> But I think the person you are holding grievances against is a
> Great man, a Great patriot, and a Great Bangladeshi. It is only because
> of him that we have some of the most corrupt politicians in jail
> today. The same politicians who would not let alternate political
> leadership to grow in their respective constituencies. A doctor
> from Netrokona or a lawyer from Sunamganj or a professor from Magura
> could not previously become a member of parliament because these
> parliamentary seats became ancestral property of the same sharks
> who "changed their feathers" to remain in government whoever came
> to power. Nobody ever challenged their authority but everyone
> recruited them as an MP or as a cabinent member just because they were able
> to make themselves indispensable to the political process through a
> process of political monopoly. Was that scenario good for
> Bangladesh? I am not saying that the current regime has impunity
> over actions that were not in the best interest of the state.
> Dr. Fakhruddin Ahmed, a childhood friend of my father has not
> disclosed his 1088 Brickyard lane, Potomac, MD 20854 property to
> the government of Bangladesh when his wealth report was submitted.* *He
> also has another house in the Gaithersburg area of Maryland that is
> also not known to the government. His houses in Banani and Gulshan
> might be known to the government but nobody knows whether he is
> paying taxes on them. Barrister Moinul Hosein's younger son just
> received a license to operate a private television channel and a
> CNG station.* *Yasmin Murshed of Scolastica was made a high
> commissioner to Australia and Fahim Munaim of the Daily Star was made a High Commissioner to Canada. So was Debapriya Bhattacharya who left
> Dhaka yesterday to represent Bangladesh as its ambassador to the UN in
> Geneva. These are just some of the gossips of the elite circle in
> Bangladesh. Unfortunately it isn't prudent to divulge any more than
> that and all that I have said is already in the public domian and I
> cannot tell you any more due to the trust bestowed upon me by the
> people of Bangladesh to look after their interest.
> > *
> Now, are all these free-riding going to become halal or kosher
> after the elected government is voted to power? Be sure, it will
> not. Does it mean that General Moyeen has done nothing good for the
> republic? Absolutely not. General Moyeen has done for Bangladesh
> what all former presidents and prime-ministers since the death of
> Ziaur Rahman has failed to do. Bangladesh should be very proud of
> General Moyeen that he has kept the hungry sharks of our society
> locked up and we look forward to that lockup cell of those criminal
> politicians to be their permanent graveyard. Bangladesh will not
> forgive a single corrupt businessman, politician or bureaucrat.
> God Bless Begum Khaleda Zia (but not her corrupt ministers), God
> Bless General Moyeen and God bless Bangladesh.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Chowdhury Irad Ahmed Siddiky.
>
> Postscript: Thank you for defending my integrity last week against
> the Awami cyber terrorist Jamal Hassan Poplu of Maryland.
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> M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), USA
> www.changebangladesh.com
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