WRT: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mukto-mona/message/46803
[Subimal]
>
> 2. I have never said that atheism makes one a murderer. I simply
know that you may find an atheist among the murderers.
Response: You can find murderers in atheists, spiritualists,
Buddhists, humanists, secularists, democrats or even Tagore loving
spiritualists if you keep on trying. However, these should not be
our point of discussion anyways. Killers and murders remain in a society no matter how successful you are implementing a 'perfect' law and regulation. But a killer in a democratic society is
not necessarily the 'outcome' or 'cause' of democracy, rather lack
of it perhaps. Finding one or two `murderer' or `killer' in a
secular or democratic society or atheism / humanism thus does not
sell for any infirmity of the system or philosophy. However, mass
killing inspired by a dogma should be kept separated. As a matter
of honesty it is important that we sever our emotional umbilical
cord from our cherished doctrine which obviously feeds
fundamentalism and it's a proven fact, if you study history. "Kill
the witches", "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them"
or ""Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day"- such
verses from holy scripture inspired hate and thru out the history
religious inquisitions, "holy" wars, witch burning, 9/11, Gujarat
massacre are few notable examples among many.
Why does religious belief create such monstrous atrocities, even
though all of these dogmas unequivocally calling themselves `the
best' -one should ponder? One of the reasons may be- because
religion expresses everything into terms of belief, faith, and
absolutes, without need for reason or even understanding. This mass
hypnotism must be kept separated while pointing towards so called
sporadic `secular murderers'!
[Subimal]
>
> 3. Avijit is obviously right: an indoctrinated person cannot be
a free thinker. In that sense Stalin obviously was not a free
thinker. But what about Marx? Was his system of thoughts a product
of free thinking?
>
Response: I have explained it one of my writeups. You can check it
here:
http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/avijit/communism_scientific.htm
[Subimal]
> 4. I don't know what Avijit is trying to teach me. .... I will
appreciate if he kindly makes his instructions more clear.
Response: I am not trying to teach anyone anything. Sometimes I feel
you painstakingly engage yourself to find fault of secularists,
atheists and freethinkers and wrongly equate with Jamati
fundamentalist or Hindu bigots who have lately started discussing
their ideology in our forum. I wanted to clarify that there are
obviously some strong points to differentiate the two groups and
their activities.
Avijit
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