[ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait

Dear Alochok Robin

I agree with your description of the landscape of discourse in
Bangladesh. Against this background we have all kinds of subjects and
levels of discourse. But nothing pleases the political classes more
than to have us discussing matters politely while they have their
merry way with the fortunes of the country.

Courtiers want their masters to stay forever in return for patronage.
This CTG has far fewer courtiers than you may think. In my case, for
example, the CTG is not my master, nor do I seek its patronage. Even
if this CTG met our best wishes (which it has not) we would still
hanker for a democracy. For us the democratic way is the right way
for our nation. A military controlled CTG, however successful, should
indeed be distasteful to you – and to me.

I agree about telling the Emperor about his lack of clothes. And of
course Moeen U Ahmed is the Emperor that first comes to mind. What
courage or integrity is needed for a Bangladeshi to feel that a
General cannot, and should not, dictate the country? It is the
courage and integrity that is to be found in every heart of every
Bangladeshi. It is as common as mud and is no big deal.

The courage and integrity that you really seek should be found in
those who challenge the Emperors and Empresses of their own political
parties – challenges made against nepotism, corruption, murder and
the sale of ethics. How common is this particular type of courage and
integrity? Where is it? Why is it scarce? Who is responsible? Who
benefits from this scarcity? What is the effect on our society? Why
is this not lamented?

This is the clearest evidence of our failure as a political society.
And it is within these political parties that Freud would fight to
spend his research time – not within the conceits of intellectuals
and the frustrations of laymen. Oceans of words, written and spoken,
are all around us. And yet only a small fraction stands against the
Nethri system and its failures and its victims. It is simply
appalling. Even now, at this stage, even the prospect of a successor
to the Empresses is not mentioned anywhere.

Even in your own piece here someone might assume (wrongly) that in
today's Bangladesh you disagreed only with the General – the Nethris
are nowhere to be found in your narrative..

It is the greatest mystery to me how, after all that we have
suffered, most of us still bang on about intellectuals, shushil
samaj, middle class, NRBs, Army, businessmen, older generation,
younger generation, bureaucrats, India, Pakistan, USA, foreign
envoys, relatives, CTG, Advisors, police, RAB – and slip in a single
sentence, amongst a thousand sentences, saying "We all know
politicians did bad things but…".

Only when citizens hold politicians accountable for the fortunes of
the country will we see the a just and democratic Bangladesh.

In Bangladesh we need not worry about taboos regarding Generals –
there are no taboos. We need to worry about the taboos in the Nethri
system. I for one intend to spend the rest of my life brawling with
defenders of these taboos. I'm no good at thoughtful discourse on
this subject. And I don't want to be part of a so called thoughtful
discourse on Bangladeshi politics where the word Awami, League,
Nationalist, Party, Hasina or Khaleda is mentioned once every 300
sentences.

Bangladesh sent 250,000 labourers to Kuwait with employment contracts
not enforceable in a Kuwait court – or a Bangladeshi court. In
Bangladesh a man who throws acid on a girl's face could be protected
by his criminal MP. I have no idea how to even start a proper,
thoughtful discourse on such subjects.

Please lead the way..

Yours sincerely

Bangladeshi Barbarian

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Saeed Rehman:
> I think you have articulated very well for all of us who are
becoming increasingly dismayed at the level of discourse among
Bengalis of our class, the so-called educated, most successful etc,
etc.
>
> In most respects, notwithstanding small changes in nomenclature and
names of principals, the discourse has remained wherever, it has been
for the last two hundred years or more. Whenenever a new govt comes a
section of our intelligentsia rise to become courtiers to the new
order. Praising to high heaven, singing odes, composing poems &
making a fetish of small differences*.
>
> Very few people have the integrity/courage to tell the Emperor that
he is not wearing any clothes. Perhaps I am being unfair in singling
out our fellow Alochoks because it really goes beyond into our psyche
as a nation. Freud would have had a field day analyzing all of us.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Robin Khundkar
>
> [To the last point on small differences, I recommend highly, a slim
volume by Sigmund Freud, "Civilization and Its Discontents" (1929-
1930). Freud introduces a concept of what he calls "Narcissm of Small
Differences". It describes the manner in which our negative feelings
are sometimes directed at people who resemble us, while we take pride
from the "small differences" that distinguish us from them] Source
Wikepedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_of_small_differences

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: saeedurrehman92 <saeedurrehman92@...>
> >Sent: Jun 13, 2008 7:42 AM
> >To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait
> >
> >
> >Dear Mr. Rahim
> >
> >I will not disagree with you at all. Theoretically and ideally you
are
> >right. But see what is practically happening. Some leaders in both
the
> >major parties started talking about reforms till 2 nethris went to
jail.
> >In my opinion, and I may be wrong, it was not at all required at
that
> >time to send them to jail. Either this action should have taken
> >immediately after 1/11 or should have taken after making strong
cases.
> >What was the result of that? People even stopped talking about
reforms.
> >All the public attention was diverted to the nethris. What
happened to
> >the reformists? The poor guys – they found it difficult to save
> >their skin. All these years what AL and BNP had been doing? If
they were
> >in Power they used all their means, foul or fair, to remain in
power.
> >And if they were in opposition, they did everything possible, foul
or
> >fair, to drag down the other party out of power. But Mr. Rahim,
tell me
> >honestly, is not the present junta doing the same thing. Do you
think
> >Hasina came out of jail on public pressure? Absolutely not. There
is an
> >underhand arrangement.
> >
> >Mr. Rahim you think that the present government should remain in
power
> >till the political parties in the country start practicing real
> >democracy inside and outside etc.etc. I, also will tell you the
same
> >thing. But tell me, is there any sign of it in the last 16/17
months?
> >Not at all. With all due respect should I tell you that to learn
> >swimming you have to get into waters. You can not first learn
swimming
> >and then get into waters. Even if I take your words does anybody
have a
> >time frame when our political parties will learn democracy and
then we
> >will have the election? Can our nation wait that long with the
present
> >stagnant economy?
> >
> >We need not to go far past; the recent history has a very bad
record of
> >Army rule at the least in South Asia. Look at every Army ruler,
before
> >relinquishing power, either they destroyed themselves or destroyed
the
> >nation or destroyed the both. Be it be Ayub, Yayha, Zia Huq, Zia
Rahman,
> >Irshad or for that matter Mushraff. There is no exception. Look
deeply
> >how all of them had to leave power. Of course, I want one
exception. I
> >want Moeen to leave power with honor and dignity. I only fear he
will
> >not. He has also ambitions like others but unfortunately he does
not
> >posses those talents. I will not debate that what he did at
juncture was
> >right or wrong. I will not debate that he should have taken this
step
> >earlier. I believe he rose at the right moment. I also believe that
> >enough is enough. Now is the time to say Good Bye.
> >
> >You know Army is considered the most disciplined organization in
any
> >country. We can afford the mistakes of others (specifically the
> >political parties) but you can not at all at all afford the
mistakes by
> >Army. And one thing more the Army gets corrupted if it remains in
> >civilian touch for a long time.
> >
> >With all due respect
> >
> >
> >
> >Saeed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "Raheem M." <raheemm1@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Mr. Saeedurrehman,
> >>
> >> You wrote: "He (Gen. Moeen) rose up a right moment. Now is time
for
> >him to go back to his barracks. He had enough shake hands."
> >>
> >> I agree with you that Gen. Moeen rose up at the right moment.
However
> >I am not sure that the current government's work is finished.
> >>
> >> It is pure and simple - BNP + AL's politics have caused the
problems
> >in the country and for themselves. No one is to blame except
themselves.
> >>
> >> When they learn to practice real democracy (inside and outside),
when
> >they learn accountability, end dynastic politics, end corrupt
practice,
> >renounce hartal and violence, when they give to the country more
than
> >they take (loot?), kick out gundaas and mastaans from the party
then it
> >will be time for them to come back.Have they done any such thing
in the
> >last 2 years?
> >>
> >> The more I see the actions of BNP and AL - be it in power or out
of
> >power, in Bangladesh or out of Bangladesh, I am convinced that
these
> >parties are completely destroyed from top to bottom. So then why
should
> >they run our country or even in election?
> >>
> >> So the next question is - if AL and BNP cannot run the country,
then
> >who will do it? I say -lets give the new power a chance - whoever
they
> >are. Give them a full term just like we gave to BNP and AL.
> >>
> >> I think the CTG and the Army has made mistakes - This is true.
But if
> >you tell me that BNP or AL is better than our current government -
then
> >you are 100% wrong. But if they make their parties better then
they will
> >get another chance for sure - because that is democracy. Until
then,
> >forget them - it is for the good of the country.
> >>
> >> - Raheem
> >> New York
> >>
> >>
> >> saeedurrehman92 saeedurrehman92@ wrote: Dear Mr. Ejazur
> >>
> >> If is a person is sleeping you can wake him up. But you cannot
wake up
> >a person who is only pretending to be sleeping.
> >>
> >> Mr. Ejazur, it seems that you are interested to know my political
> >identity. I remember in the past you have posed the same question
to
> >many others. Let me tell you that I like many others and unlike
very
> >handful, I call spade a spade. I will appreciate a person; let it
be Tom
> >or Harry, if he or she is doing well for the country. In the same
token
> >if someone in my opinion (mind you I said in my opinion, somebody
may
> >differ with me) has been other way around, I simply can not
appreciate
> >it. For example, I can appreciate Hussain Mohammad Irshad for
improving
> >the communication system in the country but cannot appreciate him
for
> >his other deeds. This is point many of us are trying to make. We
don't
> >try to justify the wrongs of the politicians rather we are
critical of
> >them. But for some handful of people, good or bad Gen. Moeen is the
> >best. They are trying to justify all his deeds and all his
misdeeds. I
> >again pose you the same question, nobody asked you that why the
brave
> >> Gen. choose Crowne Plaza for his meeting. (I think by this time
he
> >would have a retired Gen. had he not extended his tenure himself)
You
> >justify it by claiming that this is the cheapest 5 star hotel in
Kuwait.
> >Thanks God, hundred times that you did not claim that it was a free
> >treat from Hotel Crowne Plaza. Who could have challenged if you
had said
> >so. You are so blind with the deeds or misdeeds of the Gen. that
you
> >think 200 is the smallest gathering. Man, who paid the bills. Of
course
> >it was paid by the Embassy of Bangladesh on Government of
Bangladesh
> >account. When Hasina was in Kuwait, such expenditures were borne
by AL
> >affiliated businessmen. (These are your words not mine).
> >>
> >> I don't disagree that in the past hundred thousands of ordinary
> >citizens were harassed because of their political opinions, with
the
> >lame excuse that they are criminals. But what about now? How many
are
> >put behind jails in the past few days fearing there may be an
agitation
> >in favor of any political party? What is the difference between
the past
> >and the present? Why we have to harp beautiful songs for this act
of
> >bravery?
> >>
> >> I know your limitations. I know you cannot apprehend the
suffering of
> >a common man. I understand you don't know the feelings of the man
in the
> >street. But I believe you can still understand the present
situation in
> >the country by the electronic media which you have access to. See
and
> >read how many people have gone below the poverty level during the
past
> >15/16 months. These are not my words neither these are the words
of any
> >political party.
> >>
> >> I asked your identity because you were advising one gentleman to
> >conceal his identity. That made your own identity doubtful.
Otherwise,
> >who cares you are neutral or neutered.
> >>
> >> You said it is simply a matter of getting a pass sponsored by
either
> >the VIP party or the host party to get in the VIP lounge of Kuwait
> >Airport. You further said see how many party fruitcakes and party
dalals
> >turn up in the VIP lounge when an AL or BNP MP or Minister turns
up. I
> >pose you the same question, how many dalals of brave Gen. Moeen
turned
> >up at Kuwait Airport when he turned up.
> >>
> >> Even if I buy your words, a meal in Sheraton Kuwait will cost you
> >maximum 20 KD. Even if I buy your word, a meal in Crowne Plaza
will cost
> >you minimum 1 KD. So you are buying a ticket to Bangladesh with 19
KD. I
> >can only pray for you.
> >>
> >> In the end I will tell you to look around yourself. Look at
India.
> >India prospered only because there was a political government. By
the
> >way the politicians in India were also corrupt. Look at Pakistan.
> >Pakistan faltered because Pakistan was run mostly by brave
Generals. Not
> >only they were brave, their jehad was against corruption also.
> >>
> >> And remember one thing more, CIVILIZED WORLD LIKE CIVILIAN
GOVERNMENT.
> >We appreciate the bravery of Gen. Moneen. He rose up a right
moment. Now
> >is time for him to go back to his barracks. He had enough shake
hands.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Saeed
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" ezajur.rahman@ wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear Alochok Saeed
> >> >
> >> > Our disagreement over hotels is not about minimum standards -
it is
> >> > about the highest standards. I said the Sheraton was the most
> >> > prestigious hotel in Kuwait and you seek to cast doubt on me by
> >> > deeming even this harmless statement to be either an
exaggeration or
> >> > lie!
> >> >
> >> > The fact that nobody asked me why the Crowne Plaza was hired
does
> >not
> >> > stop me from stating why it was hired. It was hired because it
is
> >the
> >> > cheapest five star hotel in Kuwait.
> >> >
> >> > Under the nethri system lakhs of ordinary citizens are harassed
> >> > because of their political opinions. People lose land, jobs,
legal
> >> > protection, state protection, business opportunities etc –
just
> >> > because they oppose the ruling party and its nethri. Be honest
about
> >> > the condition of the country. I was not writing about my own
> >> > security – I was advising others to be careful. You don't need
> >to
> >> > worry about your own security I think as long as you continue
to
> >diligently avoid talking real politics.
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I am very afraid of the possibility that a nethri might
come to
> >> > power because I think it will be terrible for the country. You
on
> >the
> >> > other hand, well I have no idea what you thinkÂ… But you are
> >probably
> >> > a NethristÂ…
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, what do you mean real identity? You don't even state
your own
> >> > political views or your own identity but you go around
questioning
> >> > other people's views and identities. It's so typical of so many
> >> > people nowadays who promote their own political agenda only by
> >> > attacking others – never explaining their own positions and
> >> > pretending to be neutral. Neutered is a better word than
neutral.
> >> >
> >> > 200 is indeed a small gathering. God only knows what your idea
of a
> >> > big gathering is! Though I'm sure if a better hotel was chosen
there
> >> > would have been more room :)
> >> >
> >> > The brave General came to Kuwait on the invitation of the
Kuwait
> >Army
> >> > to discuss issues relating to the Bangladesh Army personnel
serving
> >> > in Kuwait. He, and the professional community here, took that
> >> > opportunity to have a dialogue. Its simple.
> >> >
> >> > Accessing the VIP lounge is not a matter of sneaking in
through the
> >> > back door – it is simply a matter of getting a pass sponsored
by
> >> > either the VIP party or the host party. I think you know how
easy it
> >> > is to get a pass if you know the right people. See how many
party
> >> > fruitcakes and party dalals turn up in the VIP lounge when an
AL or
> >> > BNP MP or Minister turns up :)
> >> >
> >> > I think Nizami should be tried for war crimes and would
disagree
> >with
> >> > Mr Bhuiyan if he thought otherwise. I congratulate General
Moeen on
> >> > at least showing the way that Nizami, on whatever grounds, can
at
> >> > least be arrested. The Nethris never had the courage, or the
> >> > character, to do anything. The arrest of Nizami is not a ploy
to
> >> > divert attention. The public's demands for the trial of war
> >> > criminals, and their exclusion from elections, remains intact
–
> >even
> >> > reinvigorated after the arrest of Nizami.
> >> >
> >> > In the end I thank you for your interest in my money. I spend
it at
> >> > the Crowne Plaza instead of the Sheraton, because with the
money
> >thus
> >> > saved I can buy another plane ticket to Bangladesh :)
> >> >
> >> > There are minimum standards and highest standards in politics
–
> >and
> >> > in hotels. Though I appreciate standards in hotels are easier
to
> >> > discuss than standards in your preferred political party :)
> >> >
> >> > I remain in good humour and hope you are too.
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards
> >> >
> >> > Ezajur Rahman
> >> > Kuwait
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> >> > saeedurrehman92@ wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> >> > >
> >> > > I thank you for your advisory words to Mr. Bhuiyan. I
believe he
> >> > owes it
> >> > > from you because you and him are living in the same country.
> >> > >
> >> > > Mr. Ejazur should I remind you very humbly that every 5 star
hotel
> >> > > (everywhere, and not only in Kuwait) has a minimum standard
and
> >> > that is
> >> > > why it is categorized as a 5 star hotel. And why are so
defensive?
> >> > > Nobody asked you why it was hired for the brave Gen.'s
meeting. Of
> >> > > course there are many places in Kuwait which are cheaper
than and
> >> > better
> >> > > than the 5 star hotel you mentioned.
> >> > >
> >> > > Sorry to say it Mr. Ejazur, but it is clear that you think
> >yourself
> >> > a
> >> > > celebrity. Come `n man be brave like our beloved General.
Deep in
> >> > > your conscious or subconscious you still think one of the
nethris
> >> > will
> >> > > come to power again. And if you are identified now, you will
be
> >> > harassed
> >> > > then. Mr. Ejazur, please don't be a paranoid. Don't feel
> >> > > yourself that important. Believe you me nobody will bother to
> >> > harass men
> >> > > like you and me for their political believes. By the way
what is
> >> > your
> >> > > real identity?
> >> > >
> >> > > Should I remind you again, Kuwait is also part of this
world. Many
> >> > > Bangladeshis still live there. (I am not talking about our
> >unskilled
> >> > > brothers). Surely they are more than 200. Who picked those
200 and
> >> > on
> >> > > what criteria?And you call 200 a smallest gathering. Give me
break
> >> > man.
> >> > > And why the brave Gen. and if he is really brave, did not
been to
> >> > Saudi
> >> > > Arabia or to Bahrain. We have more problems with our
expatriate
> >> > > community than in Kuwait.
> >> > >
> >> > > My intention is not to embarrass you but fact is that nobody,
> >unless
> >> > > authorized, is allowed to enter the VIP lounge of Kuwait
Airport.
> >> > Not to
> >> > > talk about entering, he is not even allowed to drive on the
road
> >> > leading
> >> > > to VIP lounge. Mr. Ejazur you admitted in the past that you
do
> >> > > exaggerate but don't lie. In what category it falls,
exaggeration
> >or
> >> > > a lie. Is not it clear to everybody that Mr. Bhuiyan
exaggerate
> >(or
> >> > lie)
> >> > > like you so you have come for his rescue as he does not have
any
> >> > answer
> >> > > to any of the questions.
> >> > >
> >> > > I am not a supporter of Jamaat-i-Islami but I believe that
Mr.
> >> > Nizami
> >> > > should have been behind bars not for GATCO but for war
crimes. Mr.
> >> > > Bhuiyan, you call Gen. a very brave man. You are a very die-
hard
> >> > > supporter of Jamaat. So you endorse that Nizami was corrupt
or you
> >> > think
> >> > > it is a ploy of the brave General to divert public attention
and
> >to
> >> > stop
> >> > > people calling for war criminal trials.
> >> > >
> >> > > In the end Mr.Ejazur, please don't spend your money in Crowne
> >Plaza
> >> > > Hotel. Go to Fahaheel to Ali Baba hotel. The money thus
saved can
> >be
> >> > > used for the country.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Saeed
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dear Mohammed Ramjan
> >> > > >
> >> > > > You were indeed unfortunate to attend the reception at the
> >Crowne
> >> > > > Plaza - the General gave an excellent speech! There were
only
> >200
> >> > > > guests as space was limited but everyone certainly had a
> >> > thoroughly
> >> > > > refreshing evening - the community spoke about the
problems of
> >our
> >> > > > labourers and the General spoke about efforts underway to
fix
> >> > some of
> >> > > > the problems. This would never have been possible under a
> >> > political
> >> > > > government because the crooks are all politically
protected : )
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Come on man! The Crowne Plaza is a fine hotel but it is
probably
> >> > the
> >> > > > cheapest five star hotel in Kuwait! Sheesh. It was hired
solely
> >> > > > because it was the cheapest :D I've hired the same
ballroom used
> >> > for
> >> > > > Mooen U Ahmed's reception several times - because it was
the
> >> > > > cheapeast :D
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Be careful about giving too much personal information on
these
> >> > > > forums - there are real people who provoke you for an
answer
> >only
> >> > to
> >> > > > identify you. So that when their Nethri comes to power
they will
> >> > > > harass you. I don't give a rats backside about such
challenges
> >> > but I
> >> > > > am also a reckless person too. Be careful.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I know one person who managed to access the VIP lounge and
give
> >> > their
> >> > > > regards to Moeen U Ahmed. Its not so difficult. As if the
VIP
> >> > Lounge
> >> > > > of ZIA Airport cannot be accessed! Yes Kuwait is part of
the
> >> > > > world :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Write to me directly and lets meet up! And we can have a
nice
> >> > cheap
> >> > > > meal at the Crowne Plaza Hotel and discuss who supports
which
> >> > nethri
> >> > > > on the internet but is too ashamed to actually say it : )
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Have a nice day
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ezajur Rahman
> >> > > > Kuwait
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
saeedurrehman92@
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Dear Mr.Bhuiyan
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I think that you were unfortunate that you could not see
Gen.
> >> > Moin
> >> > > > at
> >> > > > > Hotel Crown Plaza (again one of the most prestigious
Hotels in
> >> > > > Kuwait).
> >> > > > > And, I think that the General was fortunate that he did
not
> >see
> >> > > > you. You
> >> > > > > said it was smallest public gathering. In what capacity
you
> >were
> >> > > > invited
> >> > > > > there?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Again, you said that you went to VIP lounge of Kuwait
Airport
> >> > along
> >> > > > with
> >> > > > > Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defense Ministry
officials in
> >(or
> >> > > > on)
> >> > > > > the day of his departure. Were you from Bangladesh
Embassy or
> >> > from
> >> > > > > Kuwaiti Defense Ministry? In your few minutes talk you
> >> > found "this
> >> > > > > general a man of high personalities (or personality),
really a
> >> > > > brave son
> >> > > > > of Bangladesh". I don't know that I should agree with
you or
> >not
> >> > > > > but I found you a man of high personalities (or
personality)
> >> > though
> >> > > > I am
> >> > > > > not sure if you are a brave son of Bangladesh. One shake
hand
> >> > and
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > > knew everything about the General.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I would like to remind you that Kuwait is also part of
the
> >world
> >> > > > and if
> >> > > > > not all some people know how the business is conducted
there.
> >My
> >> > > > > brotherly advice, try to be honest don't exaggerate or
lie.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Saeed
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Mohammed Ramjan
<mramjan@>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Fortunately or unfortunately I was invited to attend
General
> >> > Moin
> >> > > > U
> >> > > > > Ahmed's smallest public gathering in Crown Plaza Hotel
Kuwait.
> >> > Due
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > some other reason I did not attend the gathering.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > In the day of his departure at Kuwait Airport VIP
lounge, I
> >> > was
> >> > > > > present with Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defence
ministry
> >> > > > officials.
> >> > > > > I found this general a man of high personalities, really
a
> >brave
> >> > > > son of
> >> > > > > Bangladesh. Our talk was held for few minutes, shake
hands and
> >> > > > finally
> >> > > > > goodbye.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Same day I have handed over a book (binder) on "Land
use
> >> > > > Technology" a
> >> > > > > subject on development control process and planning
> >permission,
> >> > > > which
> >> > > > > technology UK implementing from 1948. Unfortunately in
India,
> >> > > > Pakistan ,
> >> > > > > Bangladesh, no where this subject was included for study
in
> >any
> >> > > > > engineering college/university or in any polytechnic
> >Institute.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > We want implementation of this valuable technology in
> >> > Bangladesh.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanking you all
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> >> > > > > > Kuwait
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > To: alochona@: ezajur.rahman@: Tue, 27 May 2008
13:21:11
> >> > > > > +0000Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Dear Alochok ZaheedMany thanks for your call for good
> >manners.
> >> > > > Though
> >> > > > > to be honest I am probably the one most guilty of bad
> >> > manners : ) I
> >> > > > am
> >> > > > > writing to you because you have smashed the proverbial
nail on
> >> > the
> >> > > > head
> >> > > > > by saying..."...putting forth information, references,
logic,
> >> > > > > anti-logic, philosophy and morals..."This is precisely
the
> >> > point -
> >> > > > there
> >> > > > > is hardly any such debate anywhere. People are so tied
up in
> >the
> >> > > > > technicalities, strategies, problems, processes, etc that
> >> > thorough
> >> > > > > political debate on the issues (any issue) simply does
not
> >> > exist.
> >> > > > Our
> >> > > > > papers are busy collecting handouts, press releases,
> >quotations
> >> > and
> >> > > > > numbers. Our editors and tv pundits are busy pondering
the
> >> > > > mechanisms of
> >> > > > > democracy and not the meaning of democracy. And thats
about
> >> > > > it.WHERE ARE
> >> > > > > THE GREAT NATIONAL DEBATES ON HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION,
> >> > ENVIRONMENT,
> >> > > > LOCAL
> >> > > > > GOVERNMENT AND THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN A MODERN BANGLADESH?
Sure
> >> > > > there's a
> >> > > > > debate on food prices but that debate happened because
there
> >> > was no
> >> > > > > choice.Go to any BNP and AL meeting and talk to them
about any
> >> > of
> >> > > > these
> >> > > > > subjects. Some will look bewildered, some will get angry
> >> > because you
> >> > > > > didn't mention the 'nethri' and some will think you are a
> >> > showoff
> >> > > > from
> >> > > > > abroad.But get back to the fight for power and everyone
is an
> >> > > > expert!
> >> > > > > It's like we're all stuck in a neverending third rate
Hindi
> >> > daytime
> >> > > > soap
> >> > > > > opera!The Army is indeed the darwan. The electorate is
the
> >> > > > landlord. The
> >> > > > > politcial parties are the tenants. The darwan has indeed
taken
> >> > over
> >> > > > > because the tenants are wrecking the house and the
landlord is
> >> > fed
> >> > > > up.
> >> > > > > The darwan broke some flashy vases and ruined some
precious
> >> > > > paintings -
> >> > > > > but the house itself was saved. As with all jonogonists,
fancy
> >> > talk
> >> > > > > about the lower classes ultimately gave way to scornful
> >disdain
> >> > of
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > lowly darwan!And personal attacks are all part of the
fun -
> >and
> >> > a
> >> > > > good
> >> > > > > measure of how effective one is :) Best wishesEzajur
> >> > RahmanKuwait---
> >> > > > In
> >> > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Zaheed Naser zaheed_naser@
wrote:>>
> >> > Dear
> >> > > > > Alochok,> > We all support a party, group or ideology
one way
> >or
> >> > > > another
> >> > > > > and speak for them in a direct or subtle way and dear
Ejajur
> >> > > > obviously
> >> > > > > speaks for CTG and definitely is not the best friend of
the
> >two
> >> > > > begums!
> >> > > > > Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes, I donft,
> >whichever, I
> >> > > read
> >> > > > > his writings with care and attention obviously because
of the
> >> > fact
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > > he knows how to dish it out well (and does he write well
when
> >> > he is
> >> > > > > pissed off J). My attempt here is to draw attention to
the
> >fact
> >> > > > that we
> >> > > > > shouldnft get personal (licking and all that
phrases....)
> >when
> >> > > we
> >> > > > > are indulging in an argument, we have the right to speak
for
> >any
> >> > > > party
> >> > > > > and we can do that by putting forth information,
references,
> >> > logic,
> >> > > > > anti-logic, philosophy and morals and anything except
stooping
> >> > down
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > the low level of attacking any Alochok personally with
> >indecent
> >> > > > words! >
> >> > > > > > Regards,> Zaheed> > > Sajjad Hossain shossain456@
wrote:> Do
> >> > not
> >> > > > wash
> >> > > > > your hands. Lick it for the rest of your life. Did you
jump on
> >> > his
> >> > > > feet?
> >> > > > > Moeen U Ahmed is a "Daroan" of the Country. When
a "Daroan"
> >> > takes
> >> > > > over
> >> > > > > the house, then everything collapses. > > SH> Toronto> >
> >ezajur
> >> > > > > ezajur.rahman@ wrote:> Khaleda Zia became BNP leader and
PM
> >> > because
> >> > > > she
> >> > > > > is the wife of Ziaur > Rahman. BNP would have broken into
> >> > various
> >> > > > groups
> >> > > > > if the symbolism of > Khaleda was absent. Khaleda
maintained
> >her
> >> > > > > position by a network of > patronage, corruption and the
> >> > ruthless
> >> > > > > removal of all internal > opposition.> > Hasina Wajed
became
> >AL
> >> > > > leader
> >> > > > > and PM because she is the daughter of > Sheikh Mujib. AL
would
> >> > have
> >> > > > > broken into various groups if the > symbolism of Hasina
was
> >> > absent.
> >> > > > > Hasina maintained her postion by a > network of
patronage,
> >> > > > corruption
> >> > > > > and the ruthless removal of all > internal opposition.>
> Tell
> >> > it
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > way it is man Enot the way it makes your patriotic ego
>
> >feel
> >> > > > > good.> > Where was I asking you to worship me or Moeen?>
You
> >> > don't
> >> > > > have
> >> > > > > the guts or the ability to write 20 strong lines >
against
> >> > Hasina or
> >> > > > > Khaleda for anything.> And that's why, in reality, you do
> >> > worship
> >> > > > them.>
> >> > > > > > I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man
who went
> >> > > > after >
> >> > > > > Nizami. I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the
man
> >who
> >> > > > went >
> >> > > > > after Salauddin Qader Chowdhury. But I don't expect you
to
> >> > > > understand >
> >> > > > > that. Please continue with the pechali, bhejali rubbish
that
> >> > has >
> >> > > > > ruined our country.> > The same ladies you admire were
crazy
> >to
> >> > give
> >> > > > > malas to Dr Yunus when > he got the Nobel Prize. But
when he
> >> > dared
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > enter politics they > hurled abuse at him like the
selfish
> >> > > > hypocrites
> >> > > > > they are. Even though > as a citizen he is perfectly
entitled
> >to
> >> > > > enter
> >> > > > > politics. Becasue these Royal Begums can't stand anyone
else
> >in
> >> > > > their
> >> > > > > Kingdom.> > Don't give me that jonogonist mumbo jumbo.
That's
> >> > for
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > Royal > Khaleda and Royal Hasina to say during their
> >> > campaigns.> > I
> >> > > > > haven't lost my mind. I just see that something is
better than
> >>
> >> > > > > nothing.> > Are you looking forward to the election man
and
> >> > making
> >> > > > some
> >> > > > > money if > Hasina and Khaleda become PM? I am! If Hasina
and
> >> > Khaleda
> >> > > > > become PM > I'm going to make some real money. Deshi
style!
> >> > Talk the
> >> > > > > jonogon talk > and fill my pockets with the nation's
money at
> >> > the
> >> > > > same
> >> > > > > time.> > Maybe I could write a book: HOW TO MAKE MONEY
WITH AL
> >> > AND
> >> > > > BNP
> >> > > > > EFOR > DUMMIES.> > Ezajur Rahman> Kuwait> > --- In
> >> > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@> >
> >> > wrote:>
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > > Khaleda Zia became Prime Minister of Bangladesh on her
own
> >> > credit >
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > > elected by the people. She was not there by virtue of the
> >> > mighty >
> >> > > > gun.
> >> > > > > 99% of Bangladeshis belong to lower-middle or middle
class. To
> >>
> >> > > > what
> >> > > > > class Mr Ezajur belong to? To what class Gen Moen Uddin
Ahmed
> >>
> >> > > > belong
> >> > > > > to? Royal class? Are you asking us to worship you? Sorry
I am
> >>
> >> > not
> >> > > > > worshiping Hasina or Khaleda. Both of them are leading
two
> >> > large >
> >> > > > > political parties for more than two decades. They posses
> >strong
> >> > >
> >> > > > > leadership qualities. Your Gen Moen has tried to form one
> >> > political
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > party with the help of C grade politicians and Nobel
Prize
> >> > winner
> >> > > > but >
> >> > > > > has failed to even kick off.> > > > These army boot
lickers
> >have
> >> > > > lost
> >> > > > > their minds.> > > > ezajur <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> >
Dear
> >> > > > Alochoks> > >
> >> > > > > > Or perhaps I should prefer the State visit of Khaleda
to
> >> > Kuwait a
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > couple of years ago. Yes, perhaps her visit was more
dignified
> >> > than
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > the visit of Moeen U Ahmed. > > > > She wanted to buy
some
> >> > > > jewellery.
> >> > > > > She was advised that the finest > > jewellers in Kuwait
would
> >> > > > happily
> >> > > > > take a wide selection of pieces > to > > her hotel. She
was
> >> > advised
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > go to a prestigious location. But she > > took the
advice of
> >> > some
> >> > > > idiots
> >> > > > > and went to one of the worst gold > > markets in Kuwait.
As
> >she
> >> > > > walked
> >> > > > > through the shops onlookers were > > bemused by her
entourage.
> >> > Who
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > > she? Why is she here? The market > > that seldom saw an
upper
> >> > middle
> >> > > > > class Indian was now graced by the > > Prime Minister of
> >> > > > Bangladesh. Of
> >> > > > > course our jonogonists will say > she went to the shops
of the
> >> > > > common
> >> > > > > man. But of course she bought > nothing > > there and in
the
> >end
> >> > > > went to
> >> > > > > an exclusive shop and purchased a few > > trinkets and
baubles
> >-
> >> > > > costing
> >> > > > > well beyond the dreams of the common > > man. Any idea
how
> >much
> >> > she
> >> > > > > spent?> > > > Good old Bangladeshi democracy.> > > >
It's a
> >> > > > slapstick
> >> > > > > comedy.> > > > Regards> > > > Ezajur Rahman> > Kuwait> >
> >
> >---
> >> > In
> >> > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:> >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > > > > Dear Alochoks> > > > > > On the other hand perhaps I am
wrong.
> >> > > > Perhaps I
> >> > > > > should prefer > > Hasina > > > to Moeen U Ahmed. Perhaps
I
> >> > should
> >> > > > prefer
> >> > > > > her State visit to > Kuwait > > > back in 2000. The
> >businessmen
> >> > of
> >> > > > AL
> >> > > > > held a reception for her in > the > > > Grand Ballroom
of the
> >> > > > Sheraton
> >> > > > > Hotel. Perhaps I should be proud > of > > > when the
Foreign
> >> > > > Minister,
> >> > > > > Abdus Samad Azad, declared that the > > > audience should
> >shout
> >> > `Joy
> >> > > > > Bangla' in honour of The Nethri. And > as > > > the
> >chandeliers
> >> > > > shook to
> >> > > > > the refrain of a 800 idiots chanting Joy > > > Bangla the
> >front
> >> > > > rows of
> >> > > > > VIPs, Ambassadors, MPs and Ministers > > quickly > > >
and
> >> > quietly
> >> > > > > escaped through the side doors. And the receptionists >
> and
> >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > security men ran around the hotel like headless
chickens. And
> >>
> >> > > > other >
> >> > > > > > > guests thought some terrorists had attacked. And
like a
> >> > > > brilliant >
> >> > > > > > > Foreign Minister he turned to one side of the crowd
and
> >> > raising
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > his > > > hand urged them to shout even louder because he
> >could
> >> > not
> >> > > > hear
> >> > > > > > > them. > > > And Hasina just smiled with happiness.>
> > >
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > > The
> >> > > > > Sheraton Hotel, the oldest and most prestigious hotel in
> >
> >> > > > Kuwait, > >
> >> > > > > > entwined with the very history of Kuwait itself,
witness to
> >> > the >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > graciousness of a 1,000 stately receptions over the
decades,
> >> > had > >
> >> > > > > just > > > seen its most ungracious day.> > > > > > But
then
> >who
> >> > > > cares
> >> > > > > that the rest of Kuwait just thought:> > > > > > What
else do
> >> > you
> >> > > > expect
> >> > > > > from the Prime Minister and Foreign > > Minister > > >
of the
> >> > > > > cleanersElt;BR>> > > > > Regards> > > > > > Ezajur
> >Rahman> > >
> >> > > > > Kuwait > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> >> > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
> >> > > > > <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Saeed Bhai> >
> > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Well I was just saying that I was privileged to shake
his hand
> >>
> >> > > > and> >
> >> > > > > > > wish him well. Pretty modest compared to what you
might be
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > thinking> > > > for Hasina or Khaleda : )> > > > > > > >
He is
> >> > > > certainly
> >> > > > > not one of the greatest personalities on> > > > earth but
> >> > > > definitely one
> >> > > > > of the bravest in Bangladesh.> > > > > > > > The future
does
> >not
> >> > > > belong
> >> > > > > to him or me. But it belongs to all > of > > us> > > >
who
> >want
> >> > a
> >> > > > > Bangladesh without Hasina and Khaleda and all that > >
they >
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > > > represent. And in spite of all the mistakes the
possibilty of
> >>
> >> > > > that > >
> >> > > > > > future exists only because of the courage of the CTG.
Not
> >> > because
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > of > > > anyone else or anything else.> > > > > > > >
What is
> >> > this
> >> > > > apple
> >> > > > > polishing you speak of? What do you know > about> > > >
real
> >> > apple
> >> > > > > polishing? Look at what our people do with Hasina and> >
> >
> >> > > > Khaleda -
> >> > > > > the puja, the worshipping, the polishing, the >
malishing,> >
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > > thel dhalano, the chamchagiri.. It is record breaking!
We > >
> >> > > > could> > >
> >> > > > > > turn it into an export industry! But you won't mention
that
> >>
> >> > > > will > >
> >> > > > > > you.> > > > That's too uncomfortable. Far easier to
talk
> >> > about me
> >> > > > and
> >> > > > > my> > > > handshake.> > > > > > > > And what is this
pity you
> >> > feel?
> >> > > > What
> >> > > > > do you know about real > pity?> > > > Where is your pity
for
> >our
> >> > > > people
> >> > > > > who are made fools of by> > > > politicians year after
year
> >> > with lie
> >> > > > > after lie? Where is your > pity> > > > for a democracy
where
> >> > > > democracy
> >> > > > > ONLY means that political > > operatives> > > > are
allowed to
> >> > do
> >> > > > > anything they want? Where is your pity for a> > > >
democracy
> >> > where
> >> > > > if
> >> > > > > you challenge the leader of your party your > > house> >
> >
> >> > gets
> >> > > > burned
> >> > > > > down? You won't speak of such uncomfortable truths. > >
Far> >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > easier to talk about me wishing the General well.> > > >
> > >
> >> > > You
> >> > > > > should wish him well too. For because of him the voter >
rolls
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > will> > > > be more accurate than ever before. The voting
> >booths
> >> > > > will be
> >> > > > > > more> > > > secure than ever before. The vote count
will be
> >> > more
> >> > > > > legitimate > > than> > > > ever before. The voters will
be
> >safer
> >> > > > than
> >> > > > > every before. Your > > dream> > > > will come true - you
will
> >> > have
> >> > > > your
> >> > > > > free and fair election > between> > > > corrupt
parties.> > >
> >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > I don't dream of a future where unelected, unaccountable
>
> >> > > > officials> >
> >> > > > > > > are forced to act because of the stupidity of
elected > >
> >> > > > > politicians. I> > > > dream of a future where AL and BNP
> >behave
> >> > like
> >> > > > > proper democratic> > > > parties in a modern Bangladesh.
And
> >the
> >> > > > CTG has
> >> > > > > done more to > > achieve> > > > that than the Central
> >> > Committees of
> >> > > > AL
> >> > > > > or BNP. People who slam > the> > > > CTG and claim to be
> >neutral
> >> > > > never
> >> > > > > ever talk about AL and BNP. > If > > > they> > > > did
then
> >they
> >> > > > would
> >> > > > > be really making a difference.> > > > > > > > Look at our
> >> > country.
> >> > > > Be
> >> > > > > honest. We have far more to pity than > > Moeen> > > >
and
> >> > > > Fakhruddin
> >> > > > > and dreamers like me.> > > > > > > > By the way - who do
you
> >> > think I
> >> > > > > should vote for? Hasina or > > Khaleda?> > > > Why?
Convince
> >me
> >> > > > without
> >> > > > > insulting me : )> > > > > > > > Best wishes> > > > > > >
>
> >> > Ezajur
> >> > > > > Rahman> > > > Kuwait> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > > > ---
> >> > > > > In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"> > > >
> >> > > > <saeedurrehman92@>
> >> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur> > > >
>> >
> >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Thousand and one congratulations on your one of the
biggest> >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > achievements. I hope you have not washed your hands
after > >
> >> > > > shaking >
> >> > > > > > > it> > > > > with Gen. Moeen's hand. You must
preserve the
> >> > scent
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > > him on > > > your> > > > > hands. The future definitely
> >belongs
> >> > to
> >> > > > you
> >> > > > > because you > shaked > > > hands> > > > > with one the
> >greatest
> >> > > > > personality on earth.> > > > >> > > > > I really don't
feel
> >bad
> >> > > > feel bad
> >> > > > > when I read a writing like > > this.> > > > Nice> > > > >
> >piece
> >> > of
> >> > > > apple
> >> > > > > polishing. I, however, feel pity for a nation > in> > > >
> >> > which> >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > people like this exists.> > > > >> > > > > Saeed> > > >
>> > >
> >> > > >>
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
<ezajur.rahman@>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Alochoks> > > > > >> >
> > >
> >>
> >> > > > > Yesterday I had the privilege and the honour of shaking
the >
> >>
> >> > > > hand> >
> >> > > > > > > of> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed. He is on an
official
> >> > visit
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > Kuwait.> > > > Whilst> > > > > > he was largely
surrounded by
> >> > > > people who
> >> > > > > supported the CTG > and > > > who> > > > > > were
showering
> >him
> >> > with
> >> > > > > their views I got the opportunity on> > > > behalf> > >
> > >
> >> > of all
> >> > > > > supporters of the CTG to wish him good health, long > >
life>
> >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > and>
> >> > > > > > > > > > continued success. He reiterated that the
nation
> >> > needed
> >> > > > an> >
> >> > > > > > > election> > > > > > in December 2008.> > > > > >> >
> > >
> >>
> >> > > > Moeen U
> >> > > > > Ahmed and Dr Fakhruddin are great men and I remain> > > >
> >> > > > defiantly> > >
> >> > > > > > > > supportive. Becasue of such men we know that
change is >
> >>
> >> > > > > possible.> > > > > > Because of such men even
politicians now
> >> > > > believe
> >> > > > > that > change > > is> > > > > > possible. That change, so
> >> > > > desperately
> >> > > > > needed, must finally > be> > > > decided> > > > > > by
our
> >> > > > politicians.
> >> > > > > But there is no doubt that it is these > > men > > >
who> > >
> >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > threw the ball back in the pitch. Lets all pray that the
>
> >> > teams> >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > play> > > > > > sincerely.> > > > > >> > > > > > And for
those
> >> > who
> >> > > > think
> >> > > > > that standing next to Hasina or > > Khaleda> > > > is a>
> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > greater privilege than shaking the hand of Dr Yunus, Dr>
> > >
> >> > > > > Fakhruddin or> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed - even if
your
> >> > dreams
> >> > > > > come true, the > > > future> > > > > > still does not
belong
> >to
> >> > > > you.> >
> >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Ezajur
> >Rahman>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Kuwait> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ---
In
> >> > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Faruque Alamgir > >
faruquealamgir@>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > IDIOTS ALWAYS THNKS
THEM AS
> >THE
> >> > > > > GREATEST INTELIGENT SO > THE > > > CASE> > > > > > WITH
OUR
> >> > > > > FRIEND....................................> > > > > > >>
> > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Faruque Alamgir> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Salahuddin
Ayubi
> >> > > > s_ayubi786@>
> >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: Fakahruddin's speech> > > > > > was an
> >> > excellent
> >> > > > one.
> >> > > > > Why nitwits like yourself criticise > him > > is> > > >
> >
> >> > beyond
> >> > > > my
> >> > > > > comprehension. Instead of using a very famous > man's >
> >
> >> > name> >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > as your mask why dont you appear in your own name.
You
> >are>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > disgracing a great man. You with your level of
intelligence
> >>
> >> > >
> >> > > > will>
> >> > > > > > > > > > never reach anywhere near what the great man
> >achieved
> >> > in
> >> > > > his>
> >> > > > > > > > > > lifetime. Stop bullshitting and misguiding
people. I
> >> > do
> >> > > > not >
> >> > > > > > feel> > > > > > that the country is safe in the hands
of our
> >> > kind
> >> > > > of >
> >> > > > > > > politicians,> > > > > > most of whom do not have the
basic
> >> > > > education
> >> > > > > behind them. > Era> > > > shobai> > > > > > foot pather
neta.
> >> > bhalo
> >> > > > > kichu bojhar ba korar shamortho eder> > > > > > akebarei
nei.>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > .> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi> > > > > > >> > > > >
> >
> >---
> >> > On
> >> > > > Tue,
> >> > > > > 5/13/08, mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@ > > >
wrote:> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > > > > > > > From: mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@> >
> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Subject: [Dahuk]: Thanks Fakhruddin - you have made us >
>
> >> > laugh >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > by> > > > > > your sermon> > > > > > > To:
> >> > > > tritiomatra@yahoogroups.com,
> >> > > > > chottala@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
khabor@yahoogroups.com,
> >> > > > > dahuk@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
vinnomot@yahoogroups.com,
> >> > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
> >> > > > notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com >
> >> > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:11 AM> > > > >
> >> >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >> > > > > > > তুমি কর
> >মঈনুE¦°>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
লুE¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿
> >> > > ঁE¦°> >
> >> > > > > > > > লুE¦•à¦šà¦¾à¦°> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
>
>ছাুEলুE¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§
à¦¤à¦¿
> >> > > > > না> > > > > করার> > > > > >
> >জন্য
> >> > > ।>
> >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > দ্র
ব্যমূল্যুE¦°> > > > >
> >> > > > > কষ্টুE¦°> > > > > >
> >মধ্যুE¦"
> >> > > > > হাসির খà§Â&lsqauo;র
াঁElt;BR>> > > >
> >> > > > > যà§Â&lsqauo;ঁElt;BR>> > > > >
াঁE¦²à¦¾
> >> > > > > ফখরদ্দি> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> >> > > > > যথাসময়ুE জর
ুরি> > > > >
> >> > > > > ঁE¦E¦¨à§E¦° ধার> > > > >
> া
> >> > > > > স্থগিত বা
শিথিল,> > > > >
> >>
> >> > > > >
লুE¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿> > >
> >
> >> > > > > রাজনীতির
ঁElt;BR>> > > > >
> >> > > > > পসংস্কুE¦¤à¦¿
> >থুE¦•à§Elt;BR>>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > উদ্ধার জর> > >
> > > ুরি,
> >> > > > > প্রাতিষ্à¦
ানিঁEà¦"> > > >
> >>
> >> > > > > ঁE¦E¦¨à¦¿> > > > > >
> >> > > > > সংস্কারুE¦°> >
> > >
> >> > > > > ধার
াবাহিকতা> > > > > >
> >বজাুE
> >> > > > > জাতীুElt;BR>> > > >
> >> > > > > নির
্বাচনুE¦° ঁE¦Elt;BR>>
> >> > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > ুEউপজুE¦²à¦¾,
> >পৌরসভা
> >> > > > > à¦"> > > > > সিটি কর> >
> > > >
> >> > > > > পà§Â&lsqauo;রুE¦¶à¦¨à§E¦°
> >নির্বাচন,>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > নির> > > > > >
্বাচনী ফল
> >> > > > > মুE¦¨à§EনুE§Ÿà¦¾> > > > >
>
> >> > > > > নিশ্চিত
> >করতুEহবুElt;BR>> >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > > http://www.manabzam in.net/lead- 01.htm> > > > > >
>> > >
> >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > >
তত্ববধায়কদুE¦Â
°> > > > >
> >> > > > > তাবুE¦¦à¦¾à¦°> > > > > >
দুE¦°
> >> > > > > জুতা
দিয়ুEপিটাà¦",> > >
> >> >
> >> > > > > জুE¦²à§Elt;BR>> > > > >
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