RE: [ALOCHONA] Re: [dhakamails] India helped in our liberation war for India’s interest

As a Bangladeshi, I would like to see India as a friend rather than an enemy. There are various reasons for it. No one can live alone. However, whoever is more solvent can afford to live a longer life in solitude. When we compare, India and Bangladesh, it appears that Bangladesh definitely needs India to be a good neighbor. India is more wealthy, more powerful, and has more stakes in the international affairs than Bangladesh. That does not necessarily means that Bangladesh has to remain a slave or suordinate of India. Bangladesh is a fully independent country. Every country has internal problems. India has too. Perhaps India has more internal problems than bangladesh. But that is not issue we want to focus on. What I want to say that the respect grows from the day to day behavor between two countries like two individuals. Interruption in any affairs from one country to the other make the relationship between them worse. So, the authors in the following e-mails have legitimate reasons for arguing with each other.  By my oipnion, no one has right to blame the others falsely.
 
For whatever reason India helped Bangladesh to be independent, is always greeted by most of the Bangladeshis. Some people will always blame the others for no true reasons. We may ignore them. But unfortunately, after the independence, India took 90,000 surrendered Pak army with them. Never gave back to Bangladesh or did not do any trials probably only to save money or to obtain some sympathy of Pakistan. But it was extremely unfair to let the war criminals to go simply free. This later haunted India. Pakistan found easy recruits to form Talaban Army that agitated the entire world including India. Later India tried to strictly control Bangladesh through the Sheikh Mujib's Government. That strictness made the life of most people of Bangladesh measurable.
 
It is true that India did not occupy Bangladesh in 1971 the way China occupied Tibet. But India wanted to keep her extreme influence on Bangladesh that backfired and caused the death of the National Father. It is india who made Sheikh Mujib to form Rakkhi Bahini, Lal Bahini, and Jubo League. Like any other most brutal organizations, these militias of Sheikh Mujib killed thousands of people in the country, political and non-political both. It is India and Russia, who made Sheikh Mujib bound, to start Bakshal, a one party communist style Government. This created huge big rebellion among the people like the one that happened during the time of freedom fight but in support. So, India is no angel. India must had the reasons for doing all those but these actions took away the respect of Bangladeshi people for India that grew during the liberation period.
 
Then India never solved the Farakkha problem. India unilaterally drew excessive international water, stealing from Bangladesh, year after year that caused the western part of Bangladesh, almost to be a desert. Is it India's friendliness to Bangladesh? India roused the Mogh-Chakmas of Chittagong Hill Tract to rebel against Bangladesh Government. Its an open truth, everybody knows it. Is it the right relationship that India should maintain with Bangladesh? Can a friend do that?
 
Any Bangla speaking muslim if found in the hand of LEOs in any part of India, arrested and pushed through the border in to Bangladesh, even if for generations, they were not living in Bangladesh. Why India pushes foreign nationals to Bangladesh? Why Bangla speaking muslims are the enemies of India? They have a lot of them like this as their own citizens. Why India want to get rid off them? What does it mean? I guess it means harassing Bangladesh is probably deeply rooted into the minds of Indian Government. If that is true, how Bangladeshis will respect India? Respect is mutual. If one takes any advantage, the other gets offended. India should think about it. It is not only Bangladesh needs India, India probably needs Bangladesh too. See the countries in Europe and America. No bigger countries bother their smaller neighbors, rather try to help by all means. If India can do so, I can guarantee, India will get the entire respect of the Bangladeshis.
 
Also, Bangladeshis must have to avoid all kinds of minor and smaller scale irritations. For bigger issues, let's have courage to talk to Indian Government directly, and try hard to get to the bottom of the issues, and try hard for their amicable resolutions. If failed, try or take the issues to the international bodies.
 
But one thing must not be done is the rivalry. Never ever rivalry brings any fruits. The severely broken relationship between India and Pakistan is haunting both these countries drastically, specifically Pakistan. Urging to both Bangladeshis and Indians not to fall into the same puddle. We need to be thoughtful, cool, smart, tactful, energetic, hardworking, respectful, and fair. If we can bestow ourselves with these qualities, and if India wants a long time real friend on her side, Bangladesh will always be there, for the good of both. Until then we have to manage the situations very carefully such that nothing goes beyond the reach. Stability of Bangladesh depends a lot on the bilateral relationship between Bangladesh and India.
 
However, India must know, that Bangladesh will never, surrender to India, on any undue approach. So, India!  Please try to be our friend, not master.
If India ever plans to be the master, it will never fulfill. 

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From: shmm777@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:44:28 -0700
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [dhakamails] India helped in our liberation war for India's interest

stop arguing and ask india to stop depriving & dictating bangladesh.   you wrote, "You must realise that there is nothing much for us to exploit or loot from you."-----if you are an indian be learned about river water sharing, border killing, imposed trade deficiency, ill intended transit etc. it is a different type of looting (unlike the british did centuries ago) and if you have a TV, watch mr pinak speak to our media ignoring diplomatic norms and code of conduct. --- On Tue, 9/9/08, Visharad Sharma <visharadsharmatg@gmail.com> wrote: From: Visharad Sharma <visharadsharmatg@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [dhakamails] India helped in our liberation war for India's interest To: dhakamails@yahoogroups.com Cc: alochona@yahoogroups.com, zoglul@hotmail.co.uk, khabor@yahoogroups.com, rehman.mohammad@gmail.com, premlaliguras@hotmail.com, bdresearchers@yahoogroups.com, mahmudurart@yahoo.com, rivercrossinternational@yahoo.com, bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com, sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, rezwansiddique@yahoo.com, farhadmazhar@hotmail.com, shahin72@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:07 PM Stop Blaming India for everything, including the economic poverty.   Number One:   India could have easily annexed East Bengol which was divided in 1905 by the colonial rule in 1971, but we did not do so.   Bengolis could easily stay together, Hindus or Muslims, since they are equally culturally bound, and they know how to live together, inspite of the instigated riots in the past before 1905.   India did not want to annexe East bengol, and is not interested in taking advantage of them, but it is international politics to have neighbouring countries as alleys.   You must realise that there is nothing much for us to exploit or loot from you. You must also realise that there used to several Indian soldiers dressed in CVs along with the Mukti Bahini, without which Pakistani troops could not have surrendered easily.   You could have not fought Pakistan any way, you needed India.   Indeed india is your big brother, not to dictate terms and conditions for your internal policies but for the sake of international politics.   Your internal problems are basically because you do not listen to India in matters concerned.   Naturally, it was India's interest to through Pakis out from Banga; they had nothing to do there, and they will only pollute Banga land more.   See all sides before blameing your own keith and kin, though separate nations, we are not so different from one another.   On 09/09/2008, Isha Khan <bd_mailer@yahoo. com> wrote: India helped in our liberation war for India's interest   By Mohammad Zainal Abedin What language, Pinak Ranjan Chokrabartee, the Indian High Commission in Bangladesh, who has already been branded by some analysts as Indian Governor in Bangladesh, for his naked and direct dictation to Bangladesh, should use condemning Indian plunder in Bangladesh in 1971? He said Bangladesh could not get its independence so early lest India militarily involved itself in our war of liberation. Through its participation in our war of liberation India, in the truest sense of the term, as if, restarted the Maratha cavalry attacks of 18th century Bengal. India now repeats the same in Bangladesh. It only changed the version and technique of plundering Bangladesh. Maratha cavalry attacked Bengal in broad daylight and looted, but modern Indian bandits loot Bangladesh under the cover of friendship. Pinak claimed that without Indian military involvement Bangladesh liberation war could be prolonged. I fully agreed with his comment. But Indian policies and activities over the last 37 years uncovered the truth that India militarily involved in our war of liberation not for our sake, but entirely for the sake of India?s hegemonic and economic interest. The events and incidents that occurred since 1972 prove that it could be better for Bangladesh if we could liberate our country ourselves. India did not allow us to be liberated without Indian assistance. Indians do not have any legal and moral rights to claim that it liberated Bangladesh. When we were on the verge of victory and liberated about 99 per cent portion of Bangladesh, except some pockets of urban areas, India declared war against Pakistan. When we, the freedom fighters, made the defeat of the Pakistan forces inevitable, India, for a number of ulterior reasons, directly involved in this war under the disguise of so-called allied forces. India earlier fought twice with Pakistan, but suffered shameful defeat. In 1971 India though claimed its victory over Pakistan in Bangladesh, its forces could not capture even a district in West Pakistan, rather hundreds of thousands of Indian soldiers were captured by Pakistani troops and many Indian soldiers surrendered to Pakistan. So the so-called victory of Indian army in Bangladesh against Pakistan was possible due to the Bangladeshis in general and the freedom fighters in particular. Pinak directly admitted that the freedom fighter could liberate the country, however, later on. Yes, we the freedom fighters desired so. We never wanted India's direct military involvement in our war of liberation. Our leaders failed to foresee the ultimate outcome of Indian friendship would be so sour, bitter and suicidal. If they could anticipate in what treacherous way India, in the name of friendship, would behave with us they would prefer to die, rather agreeing to take India's military assistance. It is now known to all that India compelled the then revolutionary government of Bangladesh, exiled in India, to sign in an uneven agreement that paved the way for India to invade Bangladesh under the cover of allied forces. Our fake friends now through their overt and covert designs and hegemonic policies dream to make us their slaves. We are going to lose our independence to India. During Pakistan period we could raise slogans against Pakistani exploitation and we could demand to stop such exploitation. Now India not only exploits us more nakedly, but also ruins our country applying many-fold designs. Our leaders could not imagine that after the dismemberment of Pakistan, India would pose to become our master under the cover of friendship and conspire to annex our country to India. If we were allowed to liberate our country ourselves, India would not get the chance to loot our country after 16th December that included machineries and accessories of jute mills, textile mills, sugar mills, steel mills and their raw materials stored in the godowns, food, banks, markets, schools, colleges, universities, even residential houses and offices, even toilet materials of worth Tk. 90,000 crores. On the other hand, India misappropriated cash money and relief materials like food, baby food, clothes, blankets, medicines, etc., that were donated by several international agencies and groups for the Bangladeshi refugees sheltered in India in 1971. India took away all the arms and ammunitions, equipment and military-related materials to India which, were later distributed among the three branches of Indian armed forces. Poor India boomed within years with the money that the Indian army looted after 16th December. India arrested all the 93,000 soldiers of Pakistan to India and used them as tool to release the Indian soldiers arrested in Pakistan in 1971. Besides, India compelled Pakistan to sign uneven treaty in exchange of releasing Pakistani troops from Indian jails. It is difficult to calculate how many billions of dollars India looted from Bangladesh through monopoly business since 1972. Through the independence war of Bangladesh India was immensely benefited economically, militarily, strategically, and internationally. So India involved in our war of liberation was for Indian interest, not for us. India now keeps Bangladesh economically poor and shaky and politically disunited and disturbed. India undertook many criminal policies in order to make Bangladesh initially a subservient country and finally a part of India. It is never possible to present statistics and the extent of property worth of how many billions dollars were damaged by India's overt and covert subversive activities in Bangladesh. None has the actual records how many billions of dollars Bangladesh lost in its agriculture, fishery, communication, industry, health and housing sectors due to India?s blockade of water during the dry season and flooding it during the rainy season. It is equally difficult to enumerate how much amount of money Bangladesh lost over the years due to Indian sabotage and subversive activities. All these might not be possible, if we did not take Indian help in 1971. Pinak Ranjan or Jacob or all other Indians should remain grateful to us as it was our liberation war that paved way for India to emerge economically solvent, militarily strong and regionally and strategically powerful. http://newsfrombang ladesh.net/ view.php? hidRecord= 220162

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