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Sunday, December 21, 2008

[ALOCHONA] Re: Sufism

Attn: Maqsud Omaba,

I am really disappointed in you.  You replied without even reading my previous postings in this thread. It all started when Mr. Mufassil Islam had said that any Islamic school of thought that goes against the Holy Quran and sahih hadiths, he will not accept that individual to be Islamic.  By the way, I fully concur with him.  Now this time please read the following message and answer the following questions before putting more question/opinion:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alochona/message/11489

Do you accept Moududi's rejection and ridicule of the Prophet (SA) sahih hadith regarding Dajjal?  Do you accept the narration of Prophet of Islam (SA) or the rejection of Moududi, the Moulana of Jamaate Islami?  Please answer this very simple question before putting more questions.

Abu Hurayrah said, "The Prophet said, 'Shall I tell you something about the Dajjal which no Prophet has ever told his people before me? The Dajjal is one-eyed and will bring with him something which will resemble Paradise and Hell; but that which he calls Paradise will in fact be Hell. I warn you against him as Noah warned his people against him.'" (al-Bukhari, Muslim)

Narrated Anas bin Malik:  The Prophet said, "Ad-Dajjal will come and encamp at a place close to Medina and then Medina will shake thrice whereupon every Kafir (disbeliever) and hypocrite will go out (of Medina) towards him." (Volume 9, Book 88, Number 239:  Sahih Bukhari)

Narrated 'Aisha: "I heard Allah's Apostle in his prayer, seeking refuge with Allah from the afflictions of Ad-Dajjal." (Volume 9, Book 88, Number 243:  Sahih Bukhari)

There are 12 hadiths in Book 41 of Bukhari Sharif regarding Dajjal:  http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/088.sbt.html

There are even more Hadiths on this subject in "The Book Pertaining to the Turmoil and Portents of the Last Hour (Kitab Al-Fitan wa Ashrat As-Sa`ah)" of Muslim Sharif:

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/041.smt.html

Please enlighten us and do not sidetrack.

Thanks,

Mohammad Musa Sarkar
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, maqsud omaba <maqsudo@...> wrote:
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> Attn: Musasarkar
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> Can you please tell us more, about objectionable/ unacceptable/ controversial.... writings of Moududi.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Khoda hafez.
>
> dr. maqsud omar
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> > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > From: m_musa92870@...
> > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:39:24 +0000
> > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Sufism
> >
> >
> > Mr. Omar,
> >
> > The question is not whether Moududi was one of the most educated Islamic
> > scholars of modern time or not. The question is whether you accept
> > Moududi's rejection and ridicule of the Prophet (SA) sahih hadith or
> > not.
> >
> > "Any school of Islamic thought which goes directly against Holy Quran
> > and Sahih 6 Hadiths - I do not and will not accept that individual to be
> > Islamic." - Mr. Mufassil Islam. Do you concur with Mr. Islam?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Musa
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, maqsud omaba maqsudo@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > attn: cyrus
> > > -----------------
> > >
> > > Is it not sad, you have heard about Moududi, didnt read about him.
> > > Please do read, and let us know your comments.
> > >
> > > Whatever we say, he is one of the most educated islamic scholar of
> > modern time.
> > >
> > > best wishes.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: thoughtocrat@
> > > Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:54:53 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: Sufism
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for clarifying that Mr. Sarkar. My knowldge of Moududi is
> > limited, as I prefer not to read his writings. I have read enough about
> > him, but not enough of his writings. Personally, I don't find his
> > writings any different from Hitler's "Mein Kampf". Moududi's teachings
> > are as vile as the nazi propaganda.
> > >
> > > C
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: musasarkar m_musa92870@
> > > To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:00:26 PM
> > > Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Sufism
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Since I received no reply to the question that I posed in this thread
> > > from Mr. Mufassil Islam or any other alochoks, I have decided to
> > answer
> > > it myself. Some of the alochoks probably know the answer. The person
> > > of interest in the following posting was Maulana Syed Abu Ala Moududi.
> > > Mr. Mufassil Islam, do you accept his school of Islamic thought?
> > > Eagerly waiting for your response.
> > >
> > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, "musasarkar" <m_musa92870@ ...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Mufassil Islam,
> > > >
> > > > You have said, "Any school of Islamic thought which goes directly
> > > > against Holy Quran and Sahih 6 Hadiths - I do not and will not
> > accept
> > > > that individual to be Islamic." I heard it from many scholars
> > (Sunni)
> > > > in their lectures that to be a perfect
> > > Muslim, you have to accept the
> > > > Holy Qura'n and the sahih Hadiths (since in these hadiths the
> > Prophet
> > > > (SA) didn't say anything on his own) in your heart. We may not
> > > > understand some, but we should not reject any.
> > > >
> > > > Now can you tell us who made the following remarks?
> > > >
> > > > "The Messenger of Allah (SA) used to think that the Dajjaal
> > > > (Anti-Christ) would come out in his time, or close to his time.
> > > However,
> > > > 1350 years passed away and many long generations came and went, yet
> > > the
> > > > Dajjaal did not come out. So it is confirmed that what the Prophet
> > > (SA)
> > > > thought did not prove true!!"
> > > >
> > > > Later he added: "Indeed, 1350 years have passed…yet the Dajjaal
> > > > has not come out, so this is the reality."
> > > >
> > > > (The above is a clear rejection of the emergence of the Dajjaal,
> > whose
> > > > emergence has been narrated concurrently in authentic
> > > hadiths.)
> > > >
> > > > And He further said: "It is confirmed that everything which is
> > > > related in the hadith of the Prophet (SA) concerning the Dajjaal is
> > > the
> > > > opinion and analogical deduction of the Prophet (SA), and it is a
> > > > doubtful misgiving from his affair."
> > > >
> > > > So is this not a rejection of the Dajjaal? Is this not a denial of
> > the
> > > > narration of the Messenger (SA), about which Allah said:
> > > >
> > > > "And he does not speak from his own desire. It is revelation
> > > > inspired to him." (Sura Najm 53:3-4)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Furthermore, that person had the arrogance to make audacious remark
> > > > about the Prophet (SA):
> > > >
> > > > "Allah the Glorified commanded him (the Prophet) in Sura Nasr to
> > > > repent to his Lord due to what emanated from him in deficiencies and
> > > > shortcomings in distributing the deen."
> > > >
> > > > What do you think about that person? Do you now know who
> > > that person
> > > > was?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Mohammad Musa Sarkar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroup s.com, mufassil islam mufassili@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cyrus..
> > > > >
> > > > > I am used to this type of forgone conclusions. My understanding of
> > > > Islam does not require drumming up. I come from a family of hundreds
> > > of
> > > > years of Sufism and my direct forefathers have a lineage of Sufy
> > > > thinkers which are well known in Bangladesh. I am the direct
> > > generation
> > > > of Soleman Shah Fakir of Baltoli, Murad Nagar, Comilla (ask any
> > > > Bangladeshi from the region) where millions of sufi fakirs - lalon
> > > > vaktas gather every year. This trend is followed by Urs of my
> > > > grandfather' s majar at Araihazar as well. I have had my
> > > fair share of
> > > > learning in Sufism, Marefater gopon kotha, Gajjali and so on. Let me
> > > ask
> > > > you a straight question and do please answer honestly - no pretext
> > > > please. And do let the readers know as well. Do you know the meaning
> > > of
> > > > the word 'Sufism' and the etymology of this word? Please don't check
> > > and
> > > > tell me that you know it even though I wish you to know about it. It
> > > > seems the word Sufism is being abused without a bridle in Islam now
> > a
> > > > days. Some people have even gone too far to give up salah in the
> > name
> > > of
> > > > Sufi Islam. I request you to study the history of Khelafat Andolon
> > and
> > > > also the history of Dudu Miah in our part of the world. Bukhari
> > Sharif
> > > > talks about Fanah Fillah as the highest Sakin stage of Shariah where
> > > > salah becomes only a part of all time ebadah in Islam - a momeen's
> > > final
> > > > stage. Muslim - Momeen and Ehsan. Yes brother in Islam, I
> > > have no
> > > > intentions to create any conflicts amongst Islamic idelologies and
> > > > schools but I do accept Tablig efforts and Dawah efforts but I will
> > > not
> > > > agree with the fact of compromising basic Islamic beliefs in the
> > name
> > > of
> > > > Islamic dicersity. Any school of Islamic thought which goes directly
> > > > against Holy Quran and Sahih 6 Hadiths - I do not and will not
> > accept
> > > > that individual to be Islamic. As of my nature - I will never
> > > compromise
> > > > with irrationality and will not coil away. I you can counter logic -
> > > > please do so. As to self-proclaimed 'Human Rights Advocate' issue.
> > > Sir,
> > > > this is not a title which can be sold and this is being used by some
> > > of
> > > > the so called experts in Bangladesh. I was the first individual who
> > > had
> > > > appeared with this title in major Bangladeshi and international
> > > medias.
> > > > I have had helped Christians, Muslism alike around the world
> > > which
> > > have
> > > > had been widely publicised in major medias around the globe
> > including
> > > > BBC, Daily Star etc. I don't think you have had the chance to read
> > > about
> > > > me. I welcome you to spend a bit of your valuable time to read the
> > > > Encyclopaedia about me online. You can kindly just type my name on
> > > > google. I am not like Mr.Turkman who will throw abuses behind nick
> > > names
> > > > or from hideouts and secret locations. I have had studied in various
> > > > Universities around the world and am a lawyer of international
> > > standing
> > > > and I had to work hard to lift this title. Nevertheless, I am always
> > > > ready to accept any logic - not abuse by which you can prove me
> > wrong.
> > > > Please forward references as I always do in my letters.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > >
> > > > > Mufassil M M Islam
> > > > > Human Rights Advocate
> > > > > President and CEO
> > > > > Law Offices of
> > > Islam and Associates International
> > > > > Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Australia, UK, Ireland
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: alochona@: IndianJustice@ yahoogroups. com;
> > > > reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com; tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com;
> > dhakamails@:
> > > > turkman@: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:49:59 -0800Subject: [ALOCHONA]
> > > > Misinterpretation of Islam by Humayun Ahmad in his column in Prothom
> > > Alo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bangladesh has a lot higher Literacy Rate than Pakistan if
> > > a Mosque
> > > > Imam can be 8th Grade pass. I watched on TV in USA, a Western
> > > Journalist
> > > > with a Translator in a Religious School (MuDrissaa) in Pakistan,
> > > asking
> > > > the Teacher, "What's 8 x 8 ?"The Teacher could not tell.Allaho Akbar
> > > > ...! Pakistan ZinDaabaaD ...!--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Cyrus
> > > > thoughtocrat@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Iqbal...I really enjoyed reading your response!!
> > > > >
> > > > > The self-proclaimed Human Rights Advocate, whose opinions show
> > utter
> > > > lack of knowledge of history, both Islamic as well as of other
> > > > civilizations, and no realization that Lalon was a great Sufi
> > mystic,
> > > a
> > > > criminalized and persecuted Muslim group. Sufiism is part of our
> > > > history....it is a part of Islamic history, and must be protected at
> > > all
> > > > costs.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Blind uncultured mass"? Oh the audacity!
> > > The only one blinded by
> > > > ignorance disguised as "faith" is Mr. Mufassil Islam, who obviously
> > > > doesn't understand much about Islam or its rich and diverse culture.
> > I
> > > > find it amusing and ironic that Mr. Islam's lacks any understanding
> > of
> > > > Islamic history and the Islamic philosphy. That's a thought!
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyways....keep writing Mr. Iqbal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Cyrus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ANWAR IQBAL Anwariqbal@yahoo. com>To: alochona@yahoogroup
> > > > s.comSent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:32:26 PMSubject: RE:
> > > [ALOCHONA]
> > > > Fw: Misinterpretation of Islam by Humayun Ahmad in his column in
> > > Prothom
> > > > Alo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Mufassil Islam;
> > > > > At the end of this letter, I have pasted a copy of an article that
> > > was
> > > > sent to me by a friend
> > > who lives in Germany . This is related to the
> > > > subject of your conversation. Please review this and give us your
> > > words
> > > > of wisdom on that article.
> > > > >
> > > > > Beyond that, I would like to add some of my own thoughts on this.
> > > > >
> > > > > So called Islamic intellectuals with their bigotry, myopic visions
> > > and
> > > > immense disrespect to other civilizations and cultures have given
> > > Islam
> > > > and the Muslims a bad name today. Many of those intellectuals grew
> > up
> > > > receiving Islamic teachings from Class 8 pass mullahs. Some of them
> > > > obviously obtained higher education beyond village Moktobs. That
> > > > however, did not clear the brain washing they received during their
> > > > childhood. These are the people who we find relentlessly trying to
> > > force
> > > > their version of Islam through our throats.
> > > > >
> > > > > View points expressed by intellectuals such as yourself strikes
> > > me
> > > to
> > > > the fact that you all believe your perception is always superior to
> > > that
> > > > of the rest who hold a different opinion on the same subject matter.
> > I
> > > > do not know you and you surely do not know me. Therefore, in reading
> > > my
> > > > writing you can always blow me away as another idiot trying to sound
> > > > smart. But in the case of Humayun Ahmed who is a PhD, an established
> > > > author and a respected retired university teacher, how could you
> > even
> > > > think that you can surpass his intellectual abilities with yours?
> > Why
> > > > makes you think you know better than him? Yet better why do think
> > you
> > > > know better than anyone else. Your mindset suggests that all those
> > > > people who are in favor of the statues are nothing but ignorant
> > > morons.
> > > > What makes you develop such disrespect for others around you? You
> > are
> > > > asking people to not to do something that other people want to do.
> > And
> > > >
> > > in doing so they are not even harming anyone. This shows the general
> > > > intolerance from people of your types to the rest who holds harmless
> > > > opposing views. This is the root of all problems for the entire
> > > > civilization today. This is the cause of all the wars (justified or
> > > not)
> > > > and this is the cause why there is the continuous tension between
> > your
> > > > type of Muslims and the rest of World.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's go back to your mail; Egypt may not be a good (!) Islamic
> > > > Country in your definition, but have you thought about the Holy land
> > > of
> > > > Saudi Arabia and how blindly we perform some acts in our religion
> > that
> > > > supports idolatry. Think about the ritual of stoning the "Iblis"
> > > > during Hajj? Are those stone models of "Iblis" not idols in your
> > > > definition? Do not forget that this ritual of stoning is a mere
> > carry
> > > > over of the traditional Hajj ritual celebrated in Mecca
> > > prior to Islam
> > > > when they worshiped the Statue of Allah inside the Harem Sharif.
> > > > >
> > > > > People like you keep people like us scared and makes us worried
> > > about
> > > > the future of our dear motherland. Not too long ago, Mullah Omar
> > came
> > > to
> > > > power with Taliban in Afghanistan with your type of values and
> > ideas.
> > > > Besides other valuable relics and artifacts of immense historic
> > > > importance, they destroyed 2000 years old statue of Buddha which is
> > > not
> > > > only a loss of History and tradition for the Afghans but also an
> > > > irreparable loss for the whole mankind. In your letter, you said,
> > > > "Human nature does not evolve with time. It is static", if you
> > > > really feel that to be true, you and your types should move into the
> > > > caves and "Be modern and seal all means of deviation and use your
> > > > intellect to worship the Almighty - not using dead idols."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > While reading your mail, I took a curious interest in your title
> > > > "A human Rights Advocate". Based on the contents of your typical
> > > > writings, I think you believe "your type of fundamentalist
> > > > Muslims" is the only humans as you continuously advocate for them.
> > > > Please do not forget there are other humans who follow the same
> > > religion
> > > > with a much open mind or of different cultures and some of different
> > > > religions. I think you should separate yourself from those
> > > > "inferior" humans and revise your title slightly to call
> > > > yourself "A Mullah and a fundamentalist Muslim Human Rights
> > > > Advocate."
> > > > >
> > > > > Anwar
> > > > >
> > > > > Lalon sculpture at Dhaka Airport : Demolition fanfare by the
> > bigots
> > > > ......
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lalon src="http:// media1.somewhere inblog.net/ /images/thumbs/
> > > > banglarjoy_ 1224248015_
> > > 1-lalon_statue. jpg" width=400>The statues
> > > being
> > > > pulled down: Image credit BanglarChokh
> > > > >
> > > > > Mannequins in Macca
> > > > >
> > > > > This picture is from a store in a mall located within 100 yrds of
> > > > Kabba Sharif. Many stores
> > > > > in this mall displys different kinds of Mannequins to attract
> > > customes
> > > > to sell products, just
> > > > > as you would see in any modern mall all over the world. [some even
> > > > shows "naked"
> > > > > female breasts to display bra & brief sets, similar to the
> > picture:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have visited Macca lately, you must have noticed that space
> > > > around Kabba at
> > > > > Masjid-al-Haram is now sorrounded by world class 5-star hotels and
> > a
> > > > very large western
> > > > > style shopping malls. Now when you walk out of the Al-haram, all
> > you
> > > > see is malls and big
> > > > > hotels. Makkah is
> > > supposed to be a place of spirituality, not
> > > > materialism. Any kind of
> > > > > spiritual benefit one gets from the Kaba gets easily lost the
> > second
> > > > he/she step out and
> > > > > walk into these buildings. All you see is people eating, buying,
> > > > selling, you totally don't
> > > > > feel like you are in Mecca. Many people, go to Hajj taking it as
> > if
> > > it
> > > > is some kind of
> > > > > vacation area, people want the best hotel, the best food, drink,
> > > > comfort etc. You must be
> > > > > personally knowing Hajis who took advantages of cheaper gold in
> > > Makka
> > > > and Madina.
> > > > > Masjid al-Haram in May 2007, Mecca [ see the high rise malls and
> > > > hotels in the
> > > > > background skyline] Have you ever seen the Jamaatis and bigots
> > like
> > > > Mufti Fazlul
> > > > > Hoq Amini or Saikhul Hadis Ajijul Haq ever protesting these
> > > > "un-Islamic" practices
> > > > > in Macca [Saudi
> > > arabia] ?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Lalon sculpture is very much consistent with the tradition and
> > > > culture of
> > > > > Bangladesh. If use of Mannequins can be approved in Macca Malls,
> > why
> > > > there is
> > > > > so much fuss about the Lalon Sculpture at the Air Port? It is
> > > another
> > > > FACE of
> > > > > POLITICAL ISLAM i.e the use of religion for political purposes
> > !---
> > > On
> > > > Sun, 11/9/08, mufassil islam mufassili@hotmail. com> wrote:
> > > > > From: mufassil islam mufassili@hotmail. com>Subject: RE:
> > [ALOCHONA]
> > > > Fw: Misinterpretation of Islam by Humayun Ahmad in his column in
> > > Prothom
> > > > AloTo: alochona@yahoogroup s.comDate: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:05
> > > AM
> > > > > Again..the statutes are not representative of any modern art. This
> > > is
> > > > the most ancient form of art in human history which culminated from
> > > idol
> > > > worshipping pagan societies. We do not want people -
> > > especially
> > > naitives
> > > > of a simple-minded society to be dragged into the vortex of
> > justifying
> > > > idolatry in any form or shape. The regime in Egypt is not any way
> > > > Islamic and human rights record in suppressing democratic norms in
> > > that
> > > > country is appalling. The Islamic scholars of Bengal is way far
> > wiser
> > > > than many Arabs and exceptions do not make laws. When world is
> > moving
> > > > ahead in art and culture in various electronic medias - we are
> > bogged
> > > > down in static idolisation of so called great leaders. When Moses
> > was
> > > > away - the Bible and Quran (Exodus and Bakara) say that the
> > followers
> > > > started worshipping the Cow. Please read the context. Human nature
> > > does
> > > > not evolve with time. It is static. Be modern and seal all means of
> > > > deviation and use your intellect to worship the Almighty - not using
> > > > dead idols. You idolise Greats in minds - not by building
> > > statutes.
> > > The
> > > > right salute to them is to fight and strive for the cause they are
> > > > respected for. You democratic modern people - let's suggest a final
> > > > solution - democratically. Let's have a poll. I bet most of us will
> > > > condemn this culture. Now will you condemn our blind uncultured
> > mass?
> > > > Well - that's democracy - mass rules - learn to live with it.
> > Mufassil
> > > > IslamHuman Rights Advocate
> > > > >
> > > > > To: alochona@yahoogroup s.comFrom: anwarshafqat@ hotmail.comDate:
> > > Fri,
> > > > 7 Nov 2008 08:40:34 +0000Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] Fw:
> > Misinterpretation
> > > > of Islam by Humayun Ahmad in his column in Prothom Alo
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I live in Cairo, the capital of an important Muslim country and
> > > there
> > > > are statues of many Egyptian personalities of the Islamic era in
> > > various
> > > > street junctions. The same I have seen in Malaysia where statues of
> > > the
> > > >
> > > national personalitiesare erected in various places. I do not think
> > > that
> > > > a close minded conservative approach will take us anywhere ! The
> > world
> > > > is moving ahead whereas we are thinking backwards. The sermons of
> > ill
> > > > informed and almost uneducated religious preachers cannot be the
> > > > yardstick of judging what is right or wrong in a modern 21st century
> > > > society. Regards,Shafqat
> > > > >
> > > > > To: abdurrazzaq1949@ hotmail.com; hgas@northsouth. eduFrom:
> > > > sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.comDate: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:56:04
> > > > -0700Subject: [ALOCHONA] Fw: Misinterpretation of Islam by Humayun
> > > Ahmad
> > > > in his column in Prothom Alo
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> > > > > Dear members,
> > > > >
> > > > > Assalamu Alaikum A question has been sent to me to give my opinion
> > > on
> > > > the one -column article
> > > of Humayun Ahmad, a well-known novelist of
> > > > Bangladesh I feel that Humayun ahmad sahib has done injustice to
> > > Islam,
> > > > Muslim and himself.My points are as follows:-( Those who know Bangla
> > > can
> > > > read the attached articlein Bangla.Those who do not know, there is
> > no
> > > > problem as I have taken his point of view in my submissions )
> > > > >
> > > > > !.He says that some madrasah student shouted and government backed
> > > > down on statue issue and removed the under-constuction statue of a
> > > > famous poet and Baul Lalon Shah.This is not true that a few Madrasah
> > > > students protested..Al leasr 50 million Muslims in two hundred
> > > thousand
> > > > masjids heard Khutba ( speech of Imam) of prayer leader in Juma
> > > > congregation on last friday condeming statue making.
> > > > >
> > > > > As against that I have seen human chains, one of 25 people and
> > > another
> > > > of 15 teachers, may be there were a few
> > > others.It clearly reflects
> > > > public opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.He has tried to justify staue making and honoring them in the
> > name
> > > > of Islam.He says that Prophet (sm) did not erase the picture of
> > Maryam
> > > > from the wall of Kaba when he destroyed other idols of kabah..Is it
> > > any
> > > > justification for statue makinf or placing them in public places for
> > > > reminding heritage?.At the most it can be said that the Prophet
> > > honored
> > > > the existing picture of the mother of Isa (AS)and it will not be
> > > proper
> > > > for Muslims to break statues existing before the advent of Islam of
> > > > religious personages.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr Ahmad has said from Bukhari that Ayesha used to play with dolls
> > > and
> > > > Prophet (sm ) did not stop her.It at the most proves that small
> > dolls
> > > > are permissible for children as Imam Shawkani and Dr Qaradawi have
> > > said(
> > > > Al Halal wal Haram Fil Islam by Dr
> > > Qaradawi) It does not prove that
> > > > statue making and honoring them are permissible.
> > > > > He failed to mention numerous Hadith in Bukhari and other Hadith
> > > books
> > > > which say that those who make statue are cursed and will not enter
> > > > Jannah.
> > > > > 3.We do not know whether there are half statues of three poets and
> > > > saints in Iran.However we know that all statues of Shah of Iran were
> > > > destroyed by the people after his fall and nostatue was made of Imam
> > > > Khomeni.
> > > > > Even if some statues are there, these are violations.We should
> > take
> > > > notice that there is no statue our Prophet, or Sahabi or khalifas of
> > > > Rashidun or Abbasid or Umayyad period, not even of Moghul rulers or
> > > > Sultans of Bengal.
> > > > > 4.About Greek statue in Libiya it is also of Pre-Islamic period ,
> > > may
> > > > be it was not broken for some reasons but the Libiyans did not erect
> > > new
> > > >
> > > statues.
> > > > > 5 About destruction of Buddha statue in Afganistan , Al-Azhar, OIC
> > > > ,Qaradawi condemned the destruction of this old pre-islamic statue
> > of
> > > > Buddha. This does not mean that Islam likes statues and we should
> > > start
> > > > making statues of our leaders, Imams and Sahabis and Khalifas and
> > > place
> > > > them in public places.
> > > > >
> > > > > 6.Mr Humayun Ahmad's piece is an emotional and one-sided and
> > surely
> > > > mis-interpretation of Islam.
> > > > >
> > > > > Shah Abdul Hannan
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Omar
> > > > > To: sahannan@sonarbangl adesh.com
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 11:27 PM
> > > > > Subject: Article _Humaun Ahmed
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Sir
> > > > > Assalamu Alaikum.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am sharing with you a bangla article of Humaun Ahmed published
> > in
> > > > the Prothom Alo on 27.10.08. What is
> > > your comment on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Omar bissas.
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