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Wednesday, January 28, 2009

[mukto-mona] FW: Creation of Israel



 

Dear Farid Bhai---I am sickened by the way the Jews and their supporters manipulate the truth about the state of Israel, but I am for the truth. I always cut through all the crap with no apology for telling the truth. You know, I don't even spare Allah and Mohammed, when I see them making mischief in the land---then how I can allow The Jews and their apologists  to get way with lies and murder. The Creation of Israel on the Palestinian Land is the greatest travesty of justice and human rights violation in the history of the mankind…bar none! How any human being who possesses reason, cannot see the Pain of the vast majority of Arabs--a whopping (89%) living in Telaviv alone in 1947--- loosing their homes of  thousands of  years, all their possessions---being driven out at gun point? How the Ellie Wiesels of the world can look in the mirror with a straight face? He said, "To remain silent and indifferent is the greatest sin of all". What are you—Ellie?

In 1911, The Zionists offered $300 million Dollars in Gold to the last Ottoman Emperor, Sultan Abdul Hamid as a bribe to handover the Palestine to them. He refused, and was removed from power and sent into exile to Salonika (Greece). In 1917, Britain issued the Balfour Declaration promising the Zionists establishment of a Jewish national homeland in Palestine. The Declaration was criminal to the Core: Great Britain promised to give a Nation to the Zionists---on The Land of the Palestinians. With that goal in mind, (1917-47) Jews were pumped into Palestine from all over the World. In spite of such Jewish influx, according to a census taken by the British on 31 December 1922, there were altogether 83,000 Jews in Palestine out of a total population of 757,000 of which 663,000 were Muslims. That is, the Jewish population was only 11% and they owned less than 6% of the total land in Palestine. Yet when on November 29, 1947, the UN voted to partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab states--- 56% of the total area was allotted to the Jewish State. One must be a dumb, deaf, blind and a bloody fool not to see this grave injustice and the racist intentions of the white masters.

What is the answer to this tragic vortex of 61 years of war between the Jews and Muslims? As King Solomon decreed to two women claiming a disputed child---divide the Land in Two, each gets half.

 













 
SaifDevdas
islam1234@msn.com






From: akhtergolam@gmail.com
To: 6064@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [6064] Creation of Palestine and Israel 1845 to 2008, Let us be truthful and witness to Justice at all costs
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:31:36 -0500



Dear Engr. Mohammad Islam (Anar)

As a Muslim we must be truthful and be witness to Justice. Reference: verse 143 Sura 4
http://www.islamici ty.com/quransear ch/default. asp?ref=sura+ alnisa&TB=
Please go through the available and trust-worthy neutral history- Wikipedia reference/ or others
http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ 1948_Arab- Israeli_War
then make your assessment and judgment, if we do not do it and do not use our "reason and conscience" but only use our emotion and partiality to one of the conflicting groups only, then; we shall lose our human characteristics-" Reason and Conscience" then we shall be classified as non-human being-- means, ready to be qualified as criminals and/or animals, then Universal Declaration of Human Rights  (  http://un.org/Overview/rights.html  )would not apply to us.
What rule would apply to us? ..........You guessed it right.
Regards.
Yours sincerely,
Golam F. Akhter
Bd-UsaHumanRightsCoalition
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يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ كُونُواْ قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاء لِلّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَى أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ وَالأَقْرَبِينَ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقَيرًا فَاللّهُ أَوْلَى بِهِمَا فَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ الْهَوَى أَن تَعْدِلُواْ وَإِن تَلْوُواْ أَوْ تُعْرِضُواْ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا (4:135)
Baset - Hussari - Minshawi 
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo koonoo qawwameena bialqisti shuhadaa lillahi walaw AAala anfusikum awi alwalidayni waalaqrabeena in yakun ghaniyyan aw faqeeran faAllahu awla bihima fala tattabiAAoo alhawa an taAAdiloo wain talwoo aw tuAAridoo fainna Allaha kana bima taAAmaloona khabeeran
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah's attributes:Aware (Well_acquainted) ] [Justice] [Kin]
4:135 (Asad) O YOU who have attained to faith! Be ever steadfast in upholding equity, bearing witness to the truth for the sake of God, even though it be against your own selves or your parents and kinsfolk. Whether the person concerned be rich or poor, God's claim takes precedence over [the claims of] either of them. [150] Do not, then, follow your own desires, lest you swerve from justice: for if you distort [the truth], behold, God is indeed aware of all that you do!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab-Israeli_Wa

1/26/09

----- Original Message -----
From: Muhammad Islam
To: 6064@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [6064] Creation of Palestine and Israel 1845 to 2008, Let us be truthful and witness to Justice at all costs

Could there be any other truth ?  How the state of Israel was created on the Arab soil.  This world knows how.  Is not it by evicting or killing million and half people to make room for the people who had nothing to do with Palestine.  How does it fit to the Human Right principle.  Where was the world opinion.  The plain truth is Human Right is a joke.  Truly, the name should have been 'Human Might Right'.

Ansar

--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Golam Akhter <akhtergolam@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Golam Akhter <akhtergolam@gmail.com>
Subject: [6064] Creation of Palestine and Israel 1845 to 2008, Let us be truthful and witness to Justice at all costs
To: 6064@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 6064@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 8:53 AM


Dear Engr. Abul Hossain,
I know you entirely go by Quranic justification and/or argument which is sometimes very difficult to understand and argue depending on our degree of strength and depth of one's understanding of his belief, normal logic, age, and Quranic true interpretation.
Let me argue with you by citing some Quranic Verses:
I or we as Muslim Must tell the truth and be witness to Justice, there is no twisting allowed by Allah either in truthfulness and in Justice to the best of our faith and ability: Verse  136 Sura 4:
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http://www.islamici ty.com/quransear ch/default. asp?ref=sura+ alnisa&TB=



يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ كُونُواْ قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاء لِلّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَى أَنفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ وَالأَقْرَبِينَ إِن يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقَيرًا فَاللّهُ أَوْلَى بِهِمَا فَلاَ تَتَّبِعُواْ الْهَوَى أَن تَعْدِلُواْ وَإِن تَلْوُواْ أَوْ تُعْرِضُواْ فَإِنَّ اللّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا (4:135)
Baset - Hussari - Minshawi 
Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo koonoo qawwameena bialqisti shuhadaa lillahi walaw AAala anfusikum awi alwalidayni waalaqrabeena in yakun ghaniyyan aw faqeeran faAllahu awla bihima fala tattabiAAoo alhawa an taAAdiloo wain talwoo aw tuAAridoo fainna Allaha kana bima taAAmaloona khabeeran
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah's attributes:Aware (Well_acquainted) ] [Justice] [Kin]
4:135 (Asad) O YOU who have attained to faith! Be ever steadfast in upholding equity, bearing witness to the truth for the sake of God, even though it be against your own selves or your parents and kinsfolk. Whether the person concerned be rich or poor, God's claim takes precedence over [the claims of] either of them. [150] Do not, then, follow your own desires, lest you swerve from justice: for if you distort [the truth], behold, God is indeed aware of all that you do!
The Truth about Israel is each time Arab countries attacked UN established Israel , Israel fought back and increased her land mass:
Reference--1
http://www.mfa. gov.il/MFA/ Facts%20About% 20Israel/ Israel%20in% 20Maps/Armistice %20Lines% 201949-1967
Armistice Lines 1949-1967
10 Feb 1999





 ISRAEL IN MAPS

 
 Armistice Lines 1949-1967
 




http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ 1948_Arab- Israeli_War


 

Proposed separation of
Palestine. by UN  1947






Map of Palaistine 1845:        

http://www.zionism- israel.com/ Map_of_Palestine _1845.htm

Verse 11 Sura 13
Ar-Ra'd (The Thunder)
لَهُ مُعَقِّبَاتٌ مِّن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ يَحْفَظُونَهُ مِنْ أَمْرِ اللّهِ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يُغَيِّرُ مَا بِقَوْمٍ حَتَّى يُغَيِّرُواْ مَا بِأَنْفُسِهِمْ وَإِذَا أَرَادَ اللّهُ بِقَوْمٍ سُوءًا فَلاَ مَرَدَّ لَهُ وَمَا لَهُم مِّن دُونِهِ مِن وَالٍ (13:11)
Baset - Hussari - Minshawi 
Lahu muAAaqqibatun min bayni yadayhi wamin khalfihi yahfathoonahu min amri Allahi inna Allaha la yughayyiru ma biqawmin hatta yughayyiroo ma bianfusihim waitha arada Allahu biqawmin sooan fala maradda lahu wama lahum min doonihi min walin
Topics discussed in this Verse:
[Allah:will not change the condition of a people until they change] [Angels:guardian]
13:11 (Y. Ali) For each (such person) there are (angels) in succession, before and behind him: They guard him by command of Allah. Verily never will Allah change the condition of a people until they change it themselves (with their own souls). But when (once) Allah willeth a people's punishment, there can be no turning it back, nor will they find, besides Him, any to protect. -  English

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So Engr. Abul Hossain the sufferings we are going through now ( unstable governments, corruptions of all kinds, military rule now and then, absence of rule of law, terrorism and terrorists, world wide hatred of Muslims and killing of Muslims, Muslims are converting to other religions and atheism in Muslims etc. and  etc. brought by us only, by our thoughts. learnings, actions, and possibly for our distorted and misguided belief (absence of true and peaceful belief) by and only by us. Please try to see the Youtube, Engr Mashud Haque has seen it but could not fathom the reason and cause how a very dedicated Islamic fighter Mosab Hassan converted to Christianity, Joseph Hassan and now his aim and strong determination  is to convert his father and millions of Muslims to Christianity? ! My friend Mr. Saif Devdas's reply is also attached below:
Regards.
Yours sincerely,
Golam F. Akhter

Dear Mr. Hossain> 
You write---'Wish you to surrender to Allah Subhanuhu Tayala without any kind of doubts in Allah, His Messengers & the last Book Al-Quran.' Amazing!  Please be 100% honest and tell me how you can follow Allah after reading the passages below in good conscience. Here is the test for you to become a saint by following The Truth or becoming an animal by not following your conscience. Choice is yours.

O' Mohammed, strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies. (Surah Al Anfal 8:60).  Fighting is prescribed upon you---keep fighting for the rest of your lives.(Surah Al Baqara 2: 216)  Fight the 'people of the Book' (Christians & Jews) and Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day, nor acknowledge the religion of truth (Islam) Surah Al Tawba (2:29). 'Kill whoever rejects Islam, Surah Al Baqara (2:193) & slay them wherever ye catch them. I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them (33-27) The punishment of those who disagree with Allah and His Messenger is execution, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.
N.B> Israel is a illegitimate bastard son created by Eastern European Zionists. There are more than 2 million Palestinians living in west bank, gaza, and other refugee camps who still have the mortgage deeds and keys of their homes in Telaviv, and other Israeli cities. That is the reason Israel will never allow the right of return! We, including the whole world, criticize and condemned the hell out of the murderous zionist bastards. We already condemned the Israeli Agent, George W.Bush in the most strongest term possible and laid the deaths of 1300 innocent civilians squarely on his shoulder. We speak the truth and we won't spare even Allah, if we find he talks non-sense... ...by God that is the only truth.
 
SaifDevdas
islam1234@msn.com





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