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Monday, February 2, 2009

[ALOCHONA] Re: RE:Cancel the UpaZilla Election Results NOW

Dear Alochok Cyrus

Greetings from Kuwait!

There is plenty of circumstantial evidence that all kinds of deals
were made between the CTG and AL and BNP. Hasina is taking no action
herself against the CTG. Khaleda's protests at the election results
are polite at best. The vast majority of BNP has accepted the
results. Even those who suspect some hanky panky have largely
accepted the results too. Complaints about the national elections, by
Deshi standards, are at an almost negligible level.

That said the CTG will remain a popular subject in the political
arena. And not because of protests about the elections.

Here are some of the key factors for this lingering scent of the CTG.
I know these are very obvious to you but I'd like to state them
anyway : )

1. Moeen U Ahmed, the driving force behind the CTG, is still CinC
2. There is curiosity about what deals were made by the CTG
3. Some people will loudly complain of mistreatment by the CTG
4. Corruption, order & food prices will be compared to the CTG's term
5. The many orders of the CTG will be reviewed in Parliament
6. The constitutional implications of the CTG saga will be reviewed
7. Many will try to ensure that the CTG saga can never be repeated
8. Comments by CTG members will carry some weight for some time
9. The talk shows simply won't let go of the subject of the CTG!

My own favourite fantasy (can't tell you about the others!) is that a
deal was done whereby Hasina wins so that she will have had two
terms - just like Khaleda. Wishful maybe. Impossible? I don't think
so.

Conspiracy theories will remain as we try to understand what is
happening now, partly by trying to understand what happened recently.

But you are right of course. Lets not overdo it. It is more
important, given our problems, to focus more on what the government
is doing on the ground now than conspiracies in the sky. Because our
actual problems are far more immediate and urgent.

I am a staunch supporter of the CTG. I loved your recent email about
the CTG and I will reply to it as soon as I recover from watching
Suchitra Sen last night in the film Indrani....

Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait



--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@...> wrote:
>
> Why o why, are we still talking about CTG? It's water under the
bridge. BNP supporters, please get over it. AL is in power, so stop
with the conspiracy theories. Whether AL is good or bad only time
will tell, and they will be judged accordingly in the next election.
We are all watching!
>
> Now, can we get back to discussing socio-economic policies?
>
> C
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: maqsud omaba <maqsudo@...>
> To: alochona@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:00:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [ALOCHONA] RE:Cancel the UpaZilla Election Results NOW
>
>
> CTG
>
> Can you please re-educate us, about corruption, committed by
CTG...if any?
> Why some people claim that Gen. Moeen + few other generals have
grabbed Tareq's money and
> took bribes from other rich people??
>
> Any basis of these allegations?
>
> CTG has helped us to go back to a normal, functioning govt. through
a democratic process.
>
> dr. maqsud omar
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: veirsmill@yahoo. com; alochona@yahoogroup s.com
> From: worldbznews@ yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:12:49 -0800
> Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] RE:Cancel the UpaZilla Election Results NOW
>
>
> I have to say that Mr. Shamim forgot that it is the Caretaker
Government that put AL in power and AL is the only political party
that has been benefited by their actions. I am not going to argue but
CTG was by far the best government that this country even seen and
will ever see unless AL or BNP actually follows their steps. Which we
are seeing time and time, AL is following mostly CTG's steps and
following their laid down path.
> I guess we will know when time goes by that what the CTG did to
this country in the last two years, is by far the best that anyone
has ever done for this country and its people.
>
> But lets not agrue anymore, it does not matter who is governing the
country or who has left. Like this article http://alapbanglade
sh.com/blog/ 2009/01/19/ challenges- and-actions- for-al-in-
bangladesh/ and countless others, we stop our bickering and lend a
hand to this government or anyone there by who truely believes in
this country and works for its people. The people of Bangladesh are
not foolish anymore, they know what government works and what does
not. So please stop fighting miles and miles away from your home and
do something constructive and be independent.
> Thank you.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo. com>
> Subject: [ALOCHONA] RE:Cancel the UpaZilla Election Results NOW
> To: "Shamim_Personal" <veirsmill@yahoo. com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 2:50 AM
>
>
> Mr. M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu), you always wants government to dictate
everything, which is absolutely against the norms of democracy.
During two years of caretaker government, we have seen your
hyperactivities in the net. Your all-out unethical support for
caretaker government¢s every action including the ones most
controversial is known to almost everyone in these forum. Netters
also witnessed your 360-degree turn around when you found caretaker
governments days are numbered.  At one point, your restless mind even
tried to exploit expatriates in the name of giving them parliamentary
election nomination from different political party. Your undue
activities was unmerited and nosy with political and election
procedure. Unfortunately, use of Change Bangladesh banner was used to
change your own fortune. Your support for caretaker government went
so far that you supported military backed government to try
expatriate dissidents. You came up with the list of
> names of expatriates whom you called traitors and called for
punishments.
>
>  
> Anyway, let me get back to the point of upozilla election instead
of making opinion on sleepwalkers who walks but not toward a definite
direction.   
>  
> Election Commission is a constitutional body, which should and is
free from government¢s dictation. Constitutional body of election
commission can take measure on all aspect related to election and
they have taken so. Awami League or no other political party
participated in upozilla election directly. In almost all upozilla
there was more then one candidate from members of any given political
party therefore no political party had any control over people who
contested.
>  
> Awami League¢s stand is comprehensible; election commission is the
supreme authority, let them do their business without any
governmental meddling in favor or against their investigation. Awami
League high command already asked election commission to take stern
action against anyone including ministers and MP if they found to be
guilty of meddling with election.
>  
> It is the independent constitutional election Commissions
responsibility to conduct the election in a free and fair manner not
the government. To meet the election commissions request government
deployed hundreds of thousands of security personal from Army, Navy,
BDR, Police, Ansar and other agencies under complete command of
Election Commission. If they have failed to execute their
responsibility fearlessly and fairly then the blame chiefly goes to
election commission not the government.
>  
> Election Commission constituted a judicial body to investigate
suspended elections in seven upozilla out of four hundred eighty one
to find discrepancy. Commission found credible proof of irregularity
in seven-upozilla constituency out of four hundred and eighty one and
took measure against it by withholding or canceling election result
for those upozilla..
>  
> Now seven out of four hundred and eighty, which is somewhere 1 plus
percent. Proportionately it is very nominal and insignificant though
unwanted. Expectation could be that there will be no hindrance, no
disagreement, no violence, no manipulation or interference by any
quarter but that is not the reality. Reality of political environment
in not only in Bangladesh but also in our subcontinent is there will
be some violence, manipulation, vote tempering and influence, it is
unfortunate but the reality.
>  
> If Bangladesh or any other country in the world could execute an
election with 100% success and no error then the country will see
honey and milk steaming in their rivers instead of water. Measuring
the success is based on proportionate success not on absolute
achievement.
>  
> To election commission I will say, liberty is not what you see but
what you believe and carry out. Liberty has no significance to people
with no spinal column. Liberty finds no implication from a week mind,
which blames others but fears to take blame from his own fallout.
>  
> Sincerely
> Shamim Chowdhury
> Maryland, USA
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
> From: Shamim Chowdhury <veirsmill@yahoo. com>
> Subject: Fwd: Cancel the UpaZilla Election Results NOW
> To: veirsmill@yahoo. com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 1:22 AM
>
>
> --- In khabor@yahoogroups. com, "M. M.. Chowdhury \(Mithu\)"
> <cgmpservices@ ...> wrote:
>
> I like to reiterate that if AL wants to regain its trust among
general
> people,  they need to ask EC to cancel all Upazilla election results
> at the disputed areas.  More than 50%election results should be
> canceled based on the reports from the ground.
>  
> I like to remind that total setup by AL in Upazilla election in
> Munshigonj areas won't be acceptable.  AL thought that this is the
> only Goldmine left for them since Padma Bridge will be built and
> will able to maximize their corrupt money with this election setup
> in that areas.  Since
> I am from that area and I can speak more with
> facts and ground reports.
>  
> This is the high time for AL to be credible for the next 5 years.. 
> They should cancel all Upazilla election results from these areas as
> soon as possible.  You were so greedy that  one case you dished
> your own 25 yrs AL honest veterans leader and failed him with vote
> rigging and set-up since he won't allow any corruption in that
areas for
> Padma Bridge.
>  
> Before your mask gets out to the public, it's your own benefit to
> make it honest and make it better and make it right NOW..
>  
> I will keep pressuring you to cancel these disputed results until
you
> fix it yourself.  If you do not do, your credibility will be worst
> soon.  I will work to save poor people wealth and their future in
> that areas.
>  
> Regards,
> M. M. Chowdhury
> (Mithu)
>  
>  
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -----
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> ------------ --------- --------- --------- -----
> The Election Commission (EC) today suspended the polls results of
seven
> upazilas in line with the allegations of massive irregularities
during
> the polling.
>  
>
> The upazilas are Banchharampur in Brahmanbaria, Araihazar in
> Narayanganj, Teknaf in Cox's Bazaar, Kaliganj in Gazipur,
Mehendiganj in
> Barisal, Muradnagar in Comilla and Raipura in Narsingdi, Election
> Commissioner M Sakhawat Hussein said.
>  
>
> The election commissioner said a judicial inquiry committee will be
> formed to investigate the allegations and a final decision will be
taken
> after the committee files its report.
>
> On a query he said, "Legal steps will be taken against the lawmakers
> accused of exerting political influence in the January 22 upazila
> elections
> ."
>  
>
> On the election day, the EC called off elections to Brahmanbaria
Sadar,
> Ramganj in Laxmipur, Barura in Comilla and Belkuchi in Sirajganj
while
> polling of Dighinala (Khagrachari) and Ukhia (Cox's Bazaar) had
been put
> off before the voting day.
>
> The commissioner said the judicial inquiry committee will also
> investigate the irregularities in the upazilas where elections were
> postponed.
>  
>
> Re-election in these six upazilas would be held sometime soon,
Sakhawat
> added..
>
> --- End forwarded message ---
>
>
>
> To the government, my demand will be stay out of decision making
process of election commission and let them work independently.. Let
the judicial body come out with their investigation without any
interference.
>

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