Hi Robin bhai...thank you for your kind words. I always wondered about Mahathir as well. I have some theories of my own, but they are not suitable for this forum. I am a New Yorker, and if you are in East Coast, lemme know. Don't you work for Boeing?
I remember that about 8/9 years ago when I first joined Alochona, intelligent discourse was the name of the game. Most alochoks were really impressive, and unfortunately, a large group of them have gone MIA. I guess, life got in the way. These days it feel like we are yelling at each other and discussing news items. We should talk more about policy solutions, and make sure that the policy makers are listening. Every time I try to direct the discussion towards policy, we are always back to discussing news items..
C
From: Robin Khundkar <rkhundkar@earthlink.net>
To: alochona@yahoogroups..com
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:46:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
Hi Cyrus:
You summarized it well!
I was hoping the "Change Man" himself would elaborate. he shys from any real debate. But loves to give bhashons whenever he gets a chance.
What a bunch of pompus jokers we have on this list! Their choice of cyber names cracks me up too!. Whats with the Mahathir dude?
On a more serious note, the kindergarden level of discourse among the best & brightest of bangladesh (expatraites in North American and Europe) is hugely worrisome. Shows how low our educational standards have fallen in the last 35 years! We have a bunch of half educated people!
Robin
PS I live in Southern California! look me up if you are in Los Angeles. Where do you live
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyrus
Sent: Feb 11, 2009 11:24 AM
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
Is it the phrase "buffer state" that bothers people and throws everyone in a meaningless tantrum? Or is it that ISI may be fighting a proxy war by recruiting goons from Jamaat/Shibir et.al., and that Bangladesh govt. HAS given shelter to insurgents and ISI operatives in the northern/north eastern parts of Bangladesh, and that Bangladesh has been (ab)used by both India and Pakistan to do their dirty work?What Ms. Moni should have said in response, instead of sitting there like a door knob, is that in the event BD govt discovers that foreign operatives from any country (yes, that includes India too) are trying to destablize other countries by using BD as a base, they would be brought to justice. Until then, it would be prudent not to pass judgment on a nation or a democratically elected government, based on some loose evidence that bangladeshis may be involved in some shady work in India. That would have shut the Indian counterparts up!
From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:26:03 AM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
"Bangladesh did not get the independent state through anyone's blessings. We achieved it through liberation war and we'll protect it at any cost," said AL spokesman Syed Ashraful Islam.
His attention drawn to an Indian journalist's query to Foreign Minister Dipu Moni, outrageously dubbing Bangladesh as a 'buffer state', he said the Foreign Minister could not guess the importance of the issue in the face of the insidious remark.
The Foreign Minister, a fresher in the job of dealing with diplomatic parlance, kept silent when Bangladeshi journalists wanted to know her reaction over the Indian journalist's salvo calling Bangladesh 'buffer state'.
--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Cyrus <thoughtocrat@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:52 AM
I don't quite understand the idiotic outrage over the phase "buffer state". It simply means a state that acts as a neutral "buffer" between two hostile countries. A buffer state can be a geographical and/or political buffer. Mongolia, for example, acts as a "buffer state" between the two very hostile states, Russia and China. It's sad that our foreign minister doesn't understand the meaning of a "buffer state", and nor do most of our populace. For years, India has acted as a "buffer state" between Bangladesh and Myanmar. Ever wonder why Myanmar military junta with a larger army (and lots of Chinese and North Korean weapons) than that of Bangladesh doesn't invade Bangladesh?Contrary to the original posting by Ms Chowdhury suggests, a buffer state is not a failed state, nor is it a proxy state. I am not sure how ISI is trying to prove Bangladesh is a failed state. Does anyone care to explain? If they are, does it really matter? At least we have a democratic government, no matter how inefficient it may be. What they have is a sham of a state, in-grown insurgency, stolen elections, military coups, and growing intolerance towards the seculars. Look up the words "lawless" and "failed state" in a dictionary, and you would see the map of Pakistan in it.Just my two cents,Cyrus
From: jahid russel <jahidrussel@ yahoo.com>
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:44:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
do you guys know what is a buffer state?
--- On Tue, 2/10/09, M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: M. M. Chowdhury (Mithu) <cgmpservices@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups.. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:33 AM
Subject: [Dahuk]: Our chomok foreign minister, Yes Hasina, madam dipu Moni's first performance
To: alochona@yahoogroup s.com, chottala@yahoogroup s.com, dahuk@yahoogroups. com, khabor@yahoogroups. com, notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, tritiomatra@ yahoogroups. com, history_islam@ yahoogroups. com
Cc: dr.dipumoni@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 10:33 PM
--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com> wrote:
From: Weekly Bengali Times <publicity.bengaliti mes@gmail. com>
Subject: Pak Intelligence is trying to prove that Bangladesh is a failure country....
To: admin.bengalitimes@ gmail.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:59 PM
Hi Dear/Pakistani Inter Service Intelligence ISI is trying to prove that Bangladeshis a failure country.Is it true?International magazine News Week has published an exclusive reportabout Bangladesh. They said that Awami League has attached with Delhi.Do you want to know the details?The Canadian Bengali weekly Bengali Times current issue is in online now.Pls visit Bengali Times online issue and send your feedback.Bengali Times is always with you.Regards,Sunity ChowdhurySales and PublicityWeekly Bengali TimesToronto,Canada.
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