| That time I was in 10 Th. standard in a school where Anandamath was in syllabus as our rapid reader. One pupil asked the Bengal teacher why Bankim Chandra used in some places 'Muslim' ....in Anandamath. Our teacher in school was an expert in Bengali literature. He told Bankim actually was under administrate service as a district collector of a district of undivided Bengal under British rule. He also told that by the word 'Muslim' in Anandamath actually Bankim meant the British ruler. If he would mention in his novel directly about the oppression of British ruler his novel could be banned by British and Bankim Chandra might be imprisoned. I have understood with the help of what the knowledge I have accumulated from the endless ocean of knowledge that big and brave hearted people are always secular minded. Bankim Chandra was a secular man like Rabindranath Tagore, Kazi Nazrul Islam and later Seikh Mujibar Rahaman. As in higher level there is no difference between mathematics and physics, like wise in higher level of thinking there is no difference between Hindus, Muslims, Bhuddhists, Christians. Only the paths are different as told by Ramkrishna. And this difference, ignoranltly, is the origin of all haterd. All the so called fake religious groups are the breaking forces in our time who never agree with this. Religions becomes lethal when they are twisted wrongly in the hands of these fundamentalists. Except God, ones head shall not be bowed to any other.Is the God is very jealous? Is the God is a communal one ? Is God is inherently very fearful or full of false confidence ? I don't think so. But I think it is the men played false games on the name of God.This kind of devastating playing is until now prevailing in us. Those fundamentalist intolerant persons shall be wiped out to save our counties from catastphe and to make our counties peaceful. Well, don't bow your heads to your fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters. They are not God. But you bow to them because they are the persons who gave you lives and place to stand. The country or land of ones place to live shall be honoured in such a way that it shall affect our biological nervous system. As prayer is needed to satisfy of ones libido to God, in the same way prayer is needed to satisfy ones libido for arising patriotism in ones mind which was a need in British rule, which is a need now and which will be the need in future too. But whome to tell this and who will listen this? 'Just- Do- It' doctrine without question will keep them pulled by hundred years back from the current time. A Bandana (Vandana) in a sound, in a form of a song, is a parameter of exciting the libido of ones attarction to some thing and thus it creates a bond. This is true in all Faiths. This is most psychological and neurological aspect of our biological system. Patriotism is nothing but a sense of attraction to accomplish the duty for ones country of birth, the mother land. The patriotic libido is affected in a positive way by uttering a song of nationalism. Farida Majid expressed truly that it is not at all related to any religion.It is a basically a patriotic song.This song is not from Veda, not from Gita or Upanishads. It has no relation with Hindu riligion. Some irresponsible persons in this forum has written that Bharat Mata was imagined as Durga Debi (Devi). Bharat does not belongs to Hindus only that Bharat Mata (mother land India) shall be depicted as Durga or Gagatdhatri or any Goddess. Does Indian constitution tells that Bharat Mata means Durga ? No. Then why some diverted people think Bharat Mata means a Goddess and Bande(Vande) Mataram means that Goddess is prayed? Some times one can see that Indian maps with a small picture of Goddesses on the top of it were displayed in shops or footpaths for selling purpose.Some phanatic people becomes happy to see that. This does not mean that mother land India is a Durga or any Debi. The land of birth is auspicious. In that way it is our mother. If we bow head and sing song in her praise it will help us to make solidarity and will enhance our patriotism to our nation. The patriotism is going to be diminished day by day. That's why from lower level to higher level there is only corruption and corruption. Riots among Hundus, Muslims, Christians, etc.First we need patriotism. If we can be a true patriotic then only we can be able to build up our country, I mean any country, healthy, wealthy, prosperous and respectful. Let us become more tolerant to those intolerant allowing them what they like not to utter Bande Mataram. At least some one should be tolerant to make a nation more democratic.Tolerance has no alternative and tolerant will ever survive in the coming catastrophe. Sentu Tikadar --- On Sat, 11/14/09, Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Farida Majid <farida_majid@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Vande Mataram protests & India's defence & economic needs
To: "mukto-mona Yahoogroups" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 11:14 PM
From its inception during the Independence Movement, Bande Mataram controversy was artificially canned by shrewd manipulators of communal politics posing as village idiots pitifully needing protection of their "religious sentiments." The recent re-visiting of the controversy was unnecessary and a publicity stunt by the Deoband Maulanas. Some quick facts: The text is completely secular It was composed before the writing of the novel, Anandamath The novel is mis-characterized as anti-Muslim, and a recent English translation confirms that there is no full-blown communalism in the text It was written for Mother Bengal and adressed to her 'saat koti' children, half of whom were Muslims. In a sly bit of editing, 'saat koti' was changed to 'koti koti' thereby not only decoupling it from Bengal, but also distorting the song's homage from Mother Bengal to a divine Durga. Bankim was long dead, and had nothing to do with this doctoring of his song's text. Like the popular American sports news-broadcaster bellows on camera: "Let's go to the videotape!" I would like to roll the 'tape' of the time of production of the text of Bande Mataram. At the timing of the composition of the song, it would be more than a couple of decades since the British had dropped all mercantile pretensions and gobbled up India as a part of its Empire. The not-too-distant memory of the bitter battles fought and lost in 1857 is still smarting in many a heart. Bengal, whose plentiful wealth had been systematically robbed to enrich the British Treasury for more than a hundred years now, is the seat of governance of this foreign imperial power over whole India. Calcutta, a flourishing metropolis, was turning out an educated middle class whose intellectual and cultural accomplishments far surpassed the expectations of Mill-Macaulay & Co. who wanted nothing more than mediocre servicemen of the Empire by their Indian education policies. Bankim was the first graduate of the newly established Calcutta University after trudging through an incredibly cumbersome and tough syllabus. Exposure to English language and literature acted as an enabler in the rapid development of Bengali as a modern language. There was a new awakening of love and pride for motherland and mother language, and nostalgia for the freedom that used to belong to the people. Bengal had traded with foreigners for centuries, and even endured Company rule since the fall of Sirajuddowla in 1757. Heavy taxation and privatization of community land caused unprecedented famine that devastated the population. Even so, the effect of outright colonization took some time to sink in. Bankim lamented in one of his essays: "Nowadays we hear a lot about Administrator and rules and regulations. In this land in the olden times you could call a bunyan tree an 'administrator' (shasonkarta)". By which Bankim is stating unambiguously that we Bangalis were a free, self-ruled nation before the British came and took away our freedom. Bankim's Bande Mataram was the most powerful, but many of his contemporary poets and composers, both Hindus and Muslims, wrote paeans for Mother Bangla (the word 'bangla' denoting both the land and the language). Two generations after Bankim, my grandfather, the poet Golam Mostapha composed his song showing clear influence of both Bankim and Iqbal: "Shakol desher chaite shera moder Bangladesh, sujala sufala shasya-shyamola snigdho shitalabesh." Kazi Nazrul Islam, one of the greatest Bengali poets, my nana's friend, wrote: "Namo namo namo Bangladesh momo, chiromonoramo, chiro madhur." Unfortunately the village idiots of Bangladesh today do not sing Nazrul's song because it has 'namo namo namo' as invocation that is considered a bit too Hindu-like. Invocations are common parlance, and any speaker of that language should be free to use them regardless of the religious identity of that person. Imagine Hindi/Urdu-speaking Hindus not singing A. R. Rahman's "Ma, tujhe salaam" because 'salaam' sounds Muslim-like! [Will be continued with more facts and findings .. .. .. ] Farida Majid
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From: surajcap@yahoo. com
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 05:09:26 -0800
Subject: [mukto-mona] Vande Mataram protests & India's defence & economic needs
--- On Thu, 11/5/09, suraj prasad <surajcap@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: suraj prasad <surajcap@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: Vande Mataram protests & India's defence & economic needs
To: media_monitor5@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 3:23 PM
Worshipping Motherland as Divinity is highest form of patrioism and all nationalists do so who keep Nation over Religion as Vande Mataram asks us. While attacking the Muslims in the Novel Anandamath (having Vande Mataram song) is justified as not common Indian Muslims but the ruling invaders - Colonial Muslims were fought by Hindu Nationalists in the novel which is freedom struggle but due to lack of educational and military development at the end they accepted British Rule which removed the more repressive and perverted Islamic Jihadi rule for the time being and the 'Leader' also asked members not to hurt common Muslims when one of them was going to strike an Indian converted Muslim who fearing his life have hidden in pond. Anti-Muslim Geet Wilder's Movie is banned in India So is Da Vinci Code which is allegdly anti-Christian without even a protest showing the extra concern vote bank loving Indian Politicians have for minorities but Hindus must protest 'London Dreams' as otherwise they would not listen! http://www.banglade shihindu. com/a-true- memoir-of-peace/विजय की आशा अब भले ही न रही हो , फिर भी शाक्यों के लिए एक आशा अभी भी शेष है, और वह है प्रतिशोध की । मृत्यु को टालना असम्भव है,परन्तु फिर भी एक बात भर सम्भव है और वह है -''मारते हुए मरना'' आप यह सोच सकते है कि मेरी यह धारणा विशुद्ध क्रोध की अन्ध प्रतिक्रिया भर है। हाँ, वह वैसी ही है। पर यह दलित क्रोध की प्रतिक्रिया ही उन्मादरूपी हाथी का अंकुश होती है। सर्पपुच्छ पर पैर पड़ते ही सर्प त्वरित उलटकर दंश करता है तथा स्वतः मृत्यु के मार्ग पर होने पर भी शत्रु को भी मरणोन्मुख बनाके छोड़ता है। विजय के हेतु नही , रूधिर-प्रज्ञान के हेतु नही, तो प्रतिशोध हेतु .....तथा सर्प की जाति इस प्रकार प्रतिशोध लेने वाली है ऐसा भय मानव मात्र को होने के कारण ही वह उसे उस प्रकार कुचलने का साहस नही करता जिस प्रकार बालक चीटी या झीगुर को हंसी-खेल में कुचल देते है। पूरा कहानी पढने के लिए देखे साईट http://www.hindusth angaurav. com/savarka r.asp HANS KE LIYA PAKISTAN LORKE LEGE HINDUSTHAN:
Real Defence & Economic problems of India: - 1) Ordnance production and paramilitary should be strictly under defence ministry only and not in private hands or under home ministry. We dont need gun culture like USA or manipulation by Arms production companies to wage continous wars. 2) Chief of Defence Staff or CDS should be made and Secretary to CDS will also act as Defence Secretary and no non-defence IAS personal should be given this strategic post. 3) Mayanmar and Mauritus should be included in expanding SAARC and India should also try to join ASEAN. 4) While even North Korea & Iran has long range 2,500 km missiles as our enemies China & Pakistan we have longest - 350 Km short range ones only, like Islamic Bangladesh & must soon acquire them by development or buying off. 5) Sectarian divisions based on Religion and Castes/Regions in Indian Armed Forces like Sikh Regiment, Gurkha Regiment, Rajputana Rifles, Assam Rifles, Jat Regiment, etc must be dissolved and named after Indian Freedom fighters like Shivaji, Govind Singh, Rana Pratap, etc or simply n alpha-neumeric forms like West! http://members. lycos.co. uk/surajcap/ All external & military intelligence be united under RAW and Central Intelligence Bureau (IB) for internal one continue! I think they can provided, top 50% of their passed students in masters and above levels are each year absorbed in Govt Universities and R & D facilities so that students go for basic fundamental sciences more than all running after engineering and technology which can't survive without the mother - Science! Govt scientists are now paid more than many technos at MNCs after 6th Pay Commission beside fundamental research and earning patents can be rewarding greatly and make you rich beyond imagination! | Or else - http://tehelka. com/story_ main43.asp? filename= Ne071109coversto ry.asp--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Sachai pazzar <sachai_pazzar@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sachai pazzar <sachai_pazzar@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Look at this garlanded thug named Koda who stole US $ 1.3 Billion
To: surajcap@yahoo. com
Date: Tuesday, November 3, 2009, 7:22 PM
Please forward to your forum members...
| Look at this garlanded thug from Jharkhand, one of the poorest states of India. Irony is that despite a huge sum of 1.3 billion dollars having been swindled by him he still is a small fry (a chhutputya) amongst the king sized Dons of Mangal Singh type like Sharad Pawar, CK Jaffer Sayeed, Patang Rao Kadam, Suresh Kalmadi, Mufti Sayeed, Sushil Kumar Shinde, Mayavati, Lalu Prashad, DS Patil, Mulayam Yadav, Filmi Amma from Madras, Bhajan lal, Om Prakash Chautala, Virbadar Singh and hundreds more. | |
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