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Tuesday, April 10, 2012

[ALOCHONA] RE: [KHABOR] 25% Moslim had wanted (sic) Pakistan--These are not references



I think Turkman is a Hindu person hiding identity with psudo name, and he is sick of Muslims as well as sick of establishment of a seperate country called Pakistan where muslims were majority in number in the then Idia. There are/were many of them like him in the hindu community (not all) in the then East Pakistan. He is trying (probably) to say that at that time (1946) in British India there were 25% of muslims in aggregate in whole of India, and therefore, 25% muslims wanted the establishment of Pakistan, which is completely decieving. In the election of 1946, the minority people (28%) of East Bengal, voted for the candidtates of Indian Congress or Schedule Cast Party. That is a fact and that fact can not be ignored. In the election of 1937, 1941, and 1946 that was the it happened. As the Majority was Muslims in the Bengal/Assam provice Muslims ruled the provice. Undivided Bengal and Assam province was ruled by Muslim Prime Ministers ( Shere Bangla Fazlul Haq, SHaheed Suhrawardy, Khawaja Nazimuddin) between 1937 and 1947.
Bangladesh was created by East Pakistani people for the emancipation of East Pakistan with right name (Bangladesh), not to be subjugated from the people who did never have democracy (Pakistan). If democracy were there in Pakistan, Pakistan would still existed with two wings, because the reasons for which Pakistan was created still exists and will never go away in the Indian Subcontinetnt and its societies. Please make a noe of this. The people who were against the division of Bengal 1905 were the people fought to divide Bengal in 1946/1947 (again becuase of power, they did not wanted to be ruled by the Muslims in the undivided Bengal). Even if power was handed over to the majority party of the election outcome in 1970, there would still be a two wing Pakistan. 90% freedom fighters did fight not to prove creation of Pakistan was wrong. The statistics I produced was done by a reputed organization right after independence of Bangladesh. Let the barking ......... barks. Please ignore them totally.
Shahadat Suhrawardy
Freedom Fighter as well as son and granson of the fighter for Pakistan.
Washungton, DC
 

To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
From: alimanwar2001@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 06:30:59 -0700
Subject: Re: [KHABOR] 25% Moslim had wanted (sic) Pakistan--These are not references

 
 
Mr. Turkman: First of all, there is no such word as "Moslim (sic)." I am not sure where you found this. 
 
Thanks a million for giving these data in support of your claims, but the question remains where did you find them?  With all due respect, your references are not real references because you did not say whether they are books you are citing or they are websites you are referring to.  If you are citing books then please provide the full information with standard reference protocol and if they are websites then would you please provide the site addresses?  If you cannot figure out how to cite a reference, please consult a librarian in your neighborhood; they would be able to help you.
 
Without proper references these are simply untenable speculations or figments of your imagination.
 
Best regards,
 
Ali Manwar, PhD
Maryland 
 
 

From: Turkman <turkman@sbcglobal.net>
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 9:18 PM
Subject: [KHABOR] 25% Moslim had wanted Pakistan

You are one of the very few Moslims on Internet in my last 12 years on Internet, who have thanked me after I have provided References. Normally, what I write is disputed and even after I provide References what I wrote is not believed.
Subject is switched to ignore my point and I am ridiculed. declared an Enemy of Moslims, Islam and Pakistan just for quoting Facts.
I am feel very happy, when I find people like you, who believe in facts instead of Fictions that they have been brainwashed with since their birth. Thank you.
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--- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks. Will appreciate.
>
> M
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Turkman <turkman@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > I am adding what you asked for below.
> >
> >
> > --- In khabor@yahoogroups.com, Abdul Mannan <abman1971@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Would appreciate if you could give the source of data.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:28 AM, S Turkman <turkman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 25% of population of Moslims of British India of 1947 including former
> > > > Afghanistan's Provinces of NWF Province and Baluchistan had actually
> > > > approved of Pakistan. Following is the Statistical Data October, 1947
> > to
> > > > prove it.
> > > > .
> > > > * 1941 Moslim Population in Sub Continent India from Iran to Assam
> > 79.4 million (Ref: British India Census Bureau)
> > > > 1. 1947 Population of British India including Baluchistan and NWFP :
> > ...
> > > > 377.5 million. (Ref: Population Estimate of Census Bureau of
> > Government of British India)
> > > > 2. Moslim Population: ... 26% or 97 million (Ref: Population Estimate
> > of Census Bureau of Government of British India)
> >
> > > > 3. 1947 Population of Punjab, Baluchistan, Bahalwalpur, NWFP, Northern
> > > > Territories, Gwadur (Oman's Colony) and other few small states in
> > Punjab
> > > > that had wanted nothing to do with Pakistan: ... 7.1 million.(Ref: 1.
> > Published News in Newspapers of those days in the Sub Continent. 2.
> > Estimate of Census Bureau of Government of British India. 3. Punjab
> > Assemby's Resolution rejecting Pakistan. 4. Statements of Nawabs of
> > Bahawalpur, Baluchistan, Northern Territories etc after creation of
> > Pakistan was proposed published in newspapers of India of those days)
> >
> > > > 4. 1947 Population of Pakistan excluding the 7.1 million: ... 25.4
> > million
> > > > or 25% (Ref: Population Estimate of Census Bureau of Government of
> > British India)
> > > > 5. 1947 Population of Pakistan including Punjab: ... 27 million.
> > (Simple Mathematical Calculation)
> > > > 6. 1947 Population of East Pakistan: ... 18.6 million or 69% of
> > Pakistan. (Ref: Simple Math based on Population Estimate of Census Bureau
> > of Government of British India)
> >
> > > > 7. 1949 Population of Pakistan including what Pakistan has now minus
> > > > Gwadur: ... 32.7 million. (East Pakistan 57% of total).. (Simple Math)
> >
> > > > .
> > > > So, even when Pakistan usurped free independent states, Northern
> > > > Territories, Baluchistan and NWFP her population was 33.7% of
> > population of
> > > > Moslims of British India from Iran to Assam. It proves, 2/3rd of
> > Moslims of
> > > > the Sub Continent, Baluchistan, NWFP and Northern Territories had
> > rejected
> > > > Pakistan by not emigrating to it and had preferred to remain in India.
> > > > .
> > > > * Indian Population (3used to be 11 times that of Pakistan of 1949
> > (Ref: simple math) but
> >
> > > > Population Growth Rate of Pakistan and Bangladesh went a lot higher
> > than
> > > > India's so, now combined population of Pakistan and Bangladesh is
> > about 29%
> > > > of India's. (simple math)
> >
> > > > * Population Growth Rate of Moslims in India has declined more than
> > that
> > > > of Hindus.
> > > > * From Iran to Assam 26% of Population used to be Moslim, now its 28%.
> > (1. Add population of Pakistan, Bangladesh. 2. Substract Non Moslim
> > Population and 3. Add population of Moslims in India. 4. And then get its
> > ratio from combined population of the 3 countries)
> > > > * If India was not divided, her total Population would have been a lot
> > > > more than China's 1.32 billion. It would have left China behind long
> > time
> > > > ago because in 2011 it would have been 1.65 billion or 23.6% of World
> > > > Population. (I did my Math again. I am wrong it should have been 1.52
> > billion. Sorry)
> > > > .
> > > > S U Turkman
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > _________________________________
> > > Abdul Mannan
> > > Educator-Researcher-Writer-Analyst
> > > Dhaka
> > > Bangladesh
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> _________________________________
> Abdul Mannan
> Educator-Researcher-Writer-Analyst
> Dhaka
> Bangladesh
>

 



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