Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ModerateMuslims] Was Jesus a Muslim? // response to Mubashir

Dr. Roy would not have given such a certificate if he really knew a little more about the  various Christian groups. Obviously there are li liberal groups. There are fanatic and fundamentalist groups too. 

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On Sep 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Spell correction - virgin, not vargin --- On Sat, 9/22/12, Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Jiten Roy <jnrsr53@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ModerateMuslims] Was Jesus a Muslim? // response to Mubashir To: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, September 22, 2012, 9:22 PM   Was Jesus a Muslim? Jesus did say - there is only one God. Even Hinduism say that also. Idol worshiping is not about worshiping God. It has different purpose. And Jesus did not forbid idol worshiping for his followers. His followers worship idols of baby Jesus, vargin Mary, cross, and thousands of saints. Jesus did not forbid alcohol and pork meat consumption to his followers. Then, what kind of Muslim was he? Obvious, not the kind we know. Frankly, I do not know enough to say more than this about the question. Jiten Roy  --- On Sat, 9/22/12, Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> wrote: From: Shah Deeldar <shahdeeldar@gmail.com> Subject: [mukto-mona] Re: Fw: [ModerateMuslims] Was Jesus a Muslim? // response to Mubashir To: "Mohiuddin Anwar" <mohiuddin@netzero.net> Cc: farida_majid@hotmail.com, syed.aslam3@gmail.com, shahadathusaini@hotmail.com, kamalctgu@gmail.com, srbanunz@gmail.com, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com, americanbangladeshi@googlegroups.com, baainews@yahoogroups.com, sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com, jnrsr53@yahoo.com, subimal@yahoo.com Date: Saturday, September 22, 2012, 8:22 PM   ""Islam isn't a religion – it is a way of life." I have heard both Muslims and non-Muslims express this sentiment." So, who are these non-Muslims, who are expressing the same sentiment? Please, do not shove such idiotic statement on other people' throats, who do not even subscribe Islam's teachings or tenets. Is it a better way of life? So, how come people are fleeing to the West? The proof is in the pudding! -SD On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Mohiuddin Anwar <mohiuddin@netzero.net> wrote: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: Student of the Quran <irtaza1@yahoo.com> To: moderatemuslims@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ModerateMuslims] Was Jesus a Muslim? // response to Mubashir Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:21:55 -0700 (PDT)     SAME CONCEPT OF GOD:   Christian Scripture: "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me." [Isaiah 46:9] Muslim Scripture: "No visions can encompass Him, but He encompasses all visions. He is the Compassionate, the Cognizant."[Quran 6:103] Muslim Scripture: "None equals Him." [Quran 112:4]   SAME CONCEPT OF WORSHIP GOD ALONE:   Christian Scripture: "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord." [Mark 12:29][Deuteronomy 6:4] Christian Scripture: "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour." [Isaiah 43:11] Christian Scripture: "I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me." [Isaiah 45:5] Christian Scripture: "I am the Lord, and there is no other" [Isaiah 45:18] Christian Scripture: "I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. "[Isaiah 42:8] Muslim Scripture: " Say, "My Contact Prayers (Salat), my worship practices, my life and my death, are all devoted absolutely to GOD alone, the Lord of the universe." [Quran 6:162]   SAME CONCEPT AGAINST IDOL WORSHIP:   Christian Scripture: "And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcass upon the carcass of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you." [Leviticus 26:30] Christian Scripture: "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God." [Exodus 20:3-5] [Deuteronomy 5:7-9]  Muslim Scripture: "GOD does not forgive idol worship (if maintained until death), and He forgives lesser offenses for whomever He wills. Anyone who idolizes any idol beside GOD has strayed far astray." [Quran 4:116] Muslim Scripture: "Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah himself said, "O Children of Israel, you shall worship GOD; my Lord and your Lord." Anyone who sets up any idol beside GOD, GOD has forbidden Paradise for him, and his destiny is Hell. The wicked have no helpers."[Quran 5:72] Muslim scripture:"We have sent a messenger to every community, saying, "You shall worship GOD, and avoid idolatry." Subsequently, some were guided by GOD, while others were committed to straying. Roam the earth and note the consequences for the rejectors."[Quran 16:36]   SAME CONCEPT OF DISBELIEVERS    Christian Scripture: "Seeing they see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." [Matthew 13:13]  Muslim Scripture: "Can you make the deaf hear; can you make the blind see, or those who are far astray?" [Quran 43:40]     [33:62] God's Sunnah is unchangeable [39:23] The Quran is the best Hadith http://www.islamawakened.com/Quran/   From: Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com> To: Student of the Quran <irtaza1@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 7:37 AM Subject: Re: Was Jesus a Muslim? // comment Salam Br Irtaza   You may want to quote a few verses from the New Testament to prove your case.