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Monday, February 2, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] Saraswati Puja at Bangladesh Parliament

It is redundant to state that Islam is a complete way of life. One pill a day keeps infidels' democracy away! :-) Yes, I agree with you with stricter implementation of democracy within the walls of parliament.

Think about minorities demanding Milad-un-Nabi in the parliament instead? These minority characters might have become true heroes of Bangladesh.  

On Monday, February 2, 2015 10:08 AM, "Kamal Das [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

Historically Islam and Democracy do not mix. However, democratic principle would not have been upheld by performing Saraswati puja in the parliament of Bangladesh. Christianity and Islam owe a lot to Neoplatonism, which in principle opposed to democracy.

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On Feb 2, 2015, at 12:24 AM, "Jiten Roy [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

Mr. Mushrafi,

You are too quick to find communality in the response you have quoted - "Where are the Muslims.....? They are not ready for democracy." 

I think you do not understand the meaning of democracy - which, you think, is majority rule, without proper representation of minority.

So, your democracy is - if majority people do not want Saraswati Puja, it's OK to ignore the minority interest. That's not it. That's where the quote: "Where are the Muslims.....? They are not ready for democracy" comes into play.

Democratic minded Muslims should have come forward to support the minority demand, because democracy demand them to safeguard the interests of the minority. Democracy demands equal rights for the minority as those of the majority.

I am happy to inform you that host of Muslims did come forward to support Saraswati Puja in the Officers' Club. I believe, this was the first such occasion there, there were more Muslims than Hindus in that celebration.

Mr. Mushrafi, that's how you safeguard the interests of the minority in a real democracy. 

Jiten Roy


From: "Mohammad Mushrafi [mukto-mona]" <>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [mukto-mona] Saraswati Puja at Bangladesh Parliament

"Where are the Muslims.....? They are not ready for democracy"
Its not a communal comment? We should forgive the commentator for the sake of democracy, though who is longing for democracy without respecting others particularly the majorities in the country.
For some people understanding the grass root democracy is far fetched when he/she reduced him/herself to communal smallness.  

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 03:34:34 +0000
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Saraswati Puja at Bangladesh Parliament

"Majority must be granted" is a bad motto when the majority does not understand/recognize the human/citizenship rights of individual citizens. For example, each citizen has a right to see that the parliament premise respects him as much as it respects any other citizen of the country. In other words, if one's religion is to be celebrated there, then each individual's religion has a right to be celebrated there.
To talk a bit harshly, where the Muslims are in the majority in the world, they are not ready for democracy; because they have not learned how to respect the non-Muslims.

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:23 PM, "Mohammad Mushrafi [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

With due respect to all religions,  the parliament is the temple of democracy.  The majority must be granted.  If have any doubt, then put to the litmus test of current or any issue.  do a survey, online, on TV or any kind. The democratic decision will come out.
The secularism, the spirituality, the religiosity , the mysticism the liberalism all are high sounding catch words indeed and all those exist in human society for long time.. But real life comes first, the day to day life practices comes first, the norms of lives in any society comes first. The ever evolving social changes comes on its own pace. A political decision in the parliament, a constitutional amendment does not change those norms over night.  

Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 03:23:10 +0000
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Saraswati Puja at Bangladesh Parliament

Secularism means equal treatment for all religions, which can be achieved - 1) by showing indifference to all religions, or 2) giving equal treatment to all religions. Bangladesh won't be able to meet condition 1 ever; so, the best we can expect is equal treatment of all religions.
Jiten Roy

From: "Sukhamaya Bain [mukto-mona]" <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Saraswati Puja at Bangladesh Parliament



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