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Friday, August 14, 2015

Re: [mukto-mona] A non-Aryan goddess from Bengal

Kali is originally Mesopotamian Anat, sister and consort of Marduk. She is neither Santhal nor indigenous from Bengal. Pagan Europe had a goddess looking very much like her.

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On Aug 13, 2015, at 9:41 AM, Subimal Chakrabarty [mukto-mona] <> wrote:


Farida apa, you have misunderstood me. I simply expressed my point of view to address the concerns of Mr. Partha Banerjee. Concerns of Mr. Banerjee are not unfounded. Pat Robertson is highly critical of Hinduism's gods and goddesses. He specifically criticized Kali. Dr. Mahendra Sarker initially used to make fun of Ramkrishna Paramhansa. He used to call Kali a 'Santhal magi'. He later on became his disciple and physician. This I have read in Sunil's 'Sei somoy' novel. I have no particular preference to how one fulfills his spiritual or religious needs. That's why no question arises to defend this or that form of worship. 

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On Aug 12, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Farida Majid [mukto-mona] <> wrote:


Why are you being so defensive, Subimal?  I chose the heading -- 'non-Aryan' deliberately (and proudly) for drawing attention to the non-Aryan nature of Bangla's indigenous people whose Goddess was Kali.  These are the people who evolved into practicing Hindus, as they came into contact with Brahmin settlers from the West of Bengal, in the Western part of Bengal after AD 8th century. The inner part of Bengal was jungle-ridden, not very densely populated, and the scattered population were not followers of any organized religion. 

All religions have tribal origins.  Think of the Greeks and their glorious mythologies that incorporated the tribal deities into the Canonical gods and goddesses. The Abrahamic religions had their tribal lores too. The Qur'an incorporates many of them into its text.
               farida apa

Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 23:09:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] A non-Aryan goddess from Bengal


The daily Ananda Bazaar of August 11 has covered it as a news item. The reporter has seen this positively. Obviously there is a risk that many will have negative impression about the Hindu religion. Those who have watched Spielberg's Indiana Jones and the temple of doom know already about goddess Kali. 
Joseph Campbell has called Hinduism a tribal religion. Obviously at least one aspect of it is so. The Upanishads may not be called tribal. That a religion is tribal does not reduce it to a lesser religion. Joseph Campbell, a scholar on comparative mythology and religion, has never undermined this tribal aspect of Hinduism. 
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On Aug 10, 2015, at 6:37 PM, Farida Majid [mukto-mona] <> wrote:


Goddess Kali on Empire State Building, New York, New York. Now, if Americans can only find out that this goddess of ours wears no clothes, and dances naked on the cremation ground, and keeps chopping heads of demons. And that her husband Shiva smokes pot. Oh, what a scandal! smile emoticon smile emoticon
Partha Banerjee's photo.


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