This imbecile Abid Bahar in his reply has inadvertently exposed all the defects the Muslim society is suffering from. He fails miserably to understand simple statement and then based on his distorted understanding he keeps waffling. Let me put some sense in his head - but I am not sure that I will succeed.
I said in my email, let me quote, "But wearing tupi and good clothes, he gives the impression of a respectable man". Nowhere did I say that wearing a tupi is the cause of his problem (or to anybody). On the contrary, I meant that wearing a tupi and good clothes he is well dressed and looks like a respectable man; not a typical beggar. But he is a beggar, as the picture depicts. The picture also shows that he is in good health.
Then I questioned, why is he a beggar? Has he got no vocation or education that could allow him to lead a decent life? Has he just got religious education and nothing else that he can fall back on?
If Abid Bahar and his ilks think that religious education, at the exclusion of everything else, is the most important thing in life, then people will turn out to be what this man is. This bunch of brainwashed misguided people like Abid Bahar is causing immense damage to millions of people by misleading them and making them beggars.
"But wearing tupi
and good clothes, he gives the impression of a respectableman. But probably he has no vocation, no knowledge, except
ability to recite some Quranic verses (without
understanding) and praying to God.
On Friday, 5 August 2016, 7:10, 'zainul abedin' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Salam,
That's why I say, Muslim but not Muslim should change garbs!
Zainul
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On Tue, 8/2/16, 'Razzak Syed' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Indian secularism :One In Every Four Beggars In India Is Muslim
To: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com
Cc: "ranu51@hotmail.com" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "BDPANA@yahoogroups.com" <BDPANA@yahoogroups.com>, "LA Discussion" <la-discussion@googlegroups.com>, "bangladeshiAmericans@googlegroups.com" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>, "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Hussain Suhrawardy" <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>, "syedaslam3@gmail.com" <syedaslam3@gmail.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "alapon@yahoogroups.com" <alapon@yahoogroups.com>, "Alochona Groups" <alochona@yahoogroups.com>, "Farida Hossain" <druhfarida@gmail.com>, "Dr.Gholam Mostofa" <mostofadrgholam@gmail.com>, "Mohammed Hussain" <delwar71@hotmail.com>, "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>, "editor@prothom-alo.com" <editor@prothom-alo.com>, "letter Daily Star" <editor@thedailystar.net>, "Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu" <Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu>, "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "Farida Majid" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>, "Mina Farah" <farahmina@gmail.com>, "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>, "Javed Helali" <jhelali2000@yahoo.com>, "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>, "Quazi Nuruzzaman" <quazinuru@yahoo.com>, "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>, "quamrul hassan" <quamrul.hassan01@gmail.com>, "qamruddin chowdhury" <qamruddinc@yahoo.com>, "Anwar Kabir Rumi" <akabir60@yahoo.com>, "Sitangshu Guha" <guhasb@gmail.com>, "Md Uddin" <md.uddin@comcast.net>, "tamanna karim" <tamannak2013@gmail.com>, "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>, "Bazlul Wahab" <bazlul@yahoo.com>, "ovimot" <ovimot@yahoogroups.com>, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, "Mohammad Aleem" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "Atiqur Rahman Salu" <mfariha123@aol.com>, "farhad mazhar" <farhadmazhar@hotmail.com>, "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2016, 10:09 PM
If
Islam or Muslim's dress is a problem for any fake
Muslims then they should at least change their name, at
least they can't be as muslim if they involved at any
terrorist acts. Most of the terrorist are using Muslim name
but in real life they are not practicing nor they have any
respect for Islam.
Capt. Razzak A. Syed
Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Aug 2016, at 12:48 PM, Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com>
wrote:
TUPI
OR NO TUPIAbid Bahar
It is not any tupi but surely the perception of
the Muslim tupi that causes the number of Muslim
unemployment in India. Surprising though, here Anisur
Rahman a man from Prothom Alo appears more Indian than
Indians, defending India against an Indian Muslim
beggar. So much so that you might think he
is an Indian or originally from Indian. Contrary to his
shallow understanding of the typical man, It is a common
knowledge that Muslims who ruled India for 700 and more
years are now being systematically discriminated even to the
point of demanding their expulsion from their native
country.
A closer look shows Mr Anisur Rahman's excuse
of tupi as the main factor here for the poverty of Muslims
in India is fundamentally flawed. It is an argument
similar to white South Americans masters blaming the Black
people in the south as having low IQ and"
lazy" causing their backwardness. Later on this
was proven to be due to discrimination against the
black people.This type of argument is
called " blaming the victim." If tupi
makes the man poor, a beggar, what about some
Hindu ministers putting on Hindu tupi became even ministers
in Modi cabinet? Could it be because it is a
Hindu tupi; a tupi of a different kind from upper class
Hindu background? What about Nehru tupi even?
To me India with the caste system, discrimination
to the lower class still having a powerful presence in
everyday Indian life, finds Muslims no better than the
horijons. The latter is also an unfortunate group
discriminated in everyday Indian life.
Based on the above analysis, to me if
Anisur Rahman holds a scholarly/ responsible position
in the Prothom ALo, we can only assume the sorry state of
intellectuality of this newspaper. However, we can
see these people are successfully engaging
in spreading Indian anti Muslim hatred even in outside
India through especially people like Anisur Rahman who
are working in Bangladesh as if more Indians than Indians in
India.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016
at 4:31 AM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
wrote:
I think, there is no fantastic message in
this report. The 20 per cent Muslims make up 25 per cent
beggars, what is so abnormal in it? If anything, it only
shows that the Muslims are lazy, don't want to work and
have chosen the path of begging in the name of
God. The man in the
picture seems to be quite in good health. But wearing tupi
and good clothes, he gives the impression of a respectable
man. But probably he has no vocation, no knowledge, except
ability to recite some Quranic verses (without
understanding) and praying to God. This is what blind faith
makes a man - a beggar.
-
AR
On Saturday, 30 July
2016, 6:18, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
wrote:
One In Every Four
'Beggars' In India Is Muslim: Report
An elderly man sits along a street
as he waits for alms in Srinagar August 8, 2007.
REUTERS/Adnan Abidi
Nearly 25
percent of the 3.7 lakh Indians categorised as
"beggars" in
the 2011 Census are Muslim, according to data released last
month, reported
The Indian Express. That's a total of
92,760 Muslim beggars in India.
While most of beggars in India are Hindus—about 72.2
percent—Hindus
are also the majority religious group in India, accounting
for almost
four-fifths of the country's population. The number of
Muslim beggars is
significant as compared to their overall population in
India, which
stands at 17.22 crore as
per the last Census.
A majority of the Muslim beggars are women, which is contrary
to the national trend, where there are fewer women
beggars compared to men.
Earlier, reports have indicated that Muslims have the
lowest living standard in India, and spend less than
₹33 every day. The steadily increasing Muslim population
in India is neglected, reported
The Economist.http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/07/29/one-in-every-four-beggars-in-india-is-muslim-report/?ncid=fcbklnkinhpmg00000001
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That's why I say, Muslim but not Muslim should change garbs!
Zainul
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/2/16, 'Razzak Syed' via PFC-Friends <pfc-friends@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Indian secularism :One In Every Four Beggars In India Is Muslim
To: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com
Cc: "ranu51@hotmail.com" <ranu51@hotmail.com>, "Zoglul Husain" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "BDPANA@yahoogroups.com" <BDPANA@yahoogroups.com>, "LA Discussion" <la-discussion@googlegroups.com>, "bangladeshiAmericans@googlegroups.com" <bangladeshiamericans@googlegroups.com>, "NewEngland Awami League" <neawamileague@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Hussain Suhrawardy" <shahadathussaini@hotmail.com>, "syedaslam3@gmail.com" <syedaslam3@gmail.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "Muazzam Kazi" <kazi4986@yahoo.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "alapon@yahoogroups.com" <alapon@yahoogroups.com>, "Alochona Groups" <alochona@yahoogroups.com>, "Farida Hossain" <druhfarida@gmail.com>, "Dr.Gholam Mostofa" <mostofadrgholam@gmail.com>, "Mohammed Hussain" <delwar71@hotmail.com>, "N.E. AWAMI LEAGUE" <ne_awamileague@yahoo.com>, "editor@prothom-alo.com" <editor@prothom-alo.com>, "letter Daily Star" <editor@thedailystar.net>, "Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu" <Khondkar_Karim@uml.edu>, "New England Bnp" <bnp.newengland@yahoo.com>, "Farida Majid" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>, "Mina Farah" <farahmina@gmail.com>, "Mohammad Gani" <mgani69@gmail.com>, "Javed Helali" <jhelali2000@yahoo.com>, "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>, "Quazi Nuruzzaman" <quazinuru@yahoo.com>, "Mohamed Nazir" <nazir0101@gmail.com>, "quamrul hassan" <quamrul.hassan01@gmail.com>, "qamruddin chowdhury" <qamruddinc@yahoo.com>, "Anwar Kabir Rumi" <akabir60@yahoo.com>, "Sitangshu Guha" <guhasb@gmail.com>, "Md Uddin" <md.uddin@comcast.net>, "tamanna karim" <tamannak2013@gmail.com>, "Tareque Ahmed" <tareque7@gmail.com>, "Bazlul Wahab" <bazlul@yahoo.com>, "ovimot" <ovimot@yahoogroups.com>, "notun Bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, "Mohammad Aleem" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "Atiqur Rahman Salu" <mfariha123@aol.com>, "farhad mazhar" <farhadmazhar@hotmail.com>, "Jalal Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Bangla Press" <banglapress@gmail.com>, mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2016, 10:09 PM
If
Islam or Muslim's dress is a problem for any fake
Muslims then they should at least change their name, at
least they can't be as muslim if they involved at any
terrorist acts. Most of the terrorist are using Muslim name
but in real life they are not practicing nor they have any
respect for Islam.
Capt. Razzak A. Syed
Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Aug 2016, at 12:48 PM, Post Card <abahar.canada@gmail.com>
wrote:
TUPI
OR NO TUPIAbid Bahar
It is not any tupi but surely the perception of
the Muslim tupi that causes the number of Muslim
unemployment in India. Surprising though, here Anisur
Rahman a man from Prothom Alo appears more Indian than
Indians, defending India against an Indian Muslim
beggar. So much so that you might think he
is an Indian or originally from Indian. Contrary to his
shallow understanding of the typical man, It is a common
knowledge that Muslims who ruled India for 700 and more
years are now being systematically discriminated even to the
point of demanding their expulsion from their native
country.
A closer look shows Mr Anisur Rahman's excuse
of tupi as the main factor here for the poverty of Muslims
in India is fundamentally flawed. It is an argument
similar to white South Americans masters blaming the Black
people in the south as having low IQ and"
lazy" causing their backwardness. Later on this
was proven to be due to discrimination against the
black people.This type of argument is
called " blaming the victim." If tupi
makes the man poor, a beggar, what about some
Hindu ministers putting on Hindu tupi became even ministers
in Modi cabinet? Could it be because it is a
Hindu tupi; a tupi of a different kind from upper class
Hindu background? What about Nehru tupi even?
To me India with the caste system, discrimination
to the lower class still having a powerful presence in
everyday Indian life, finds Muslims no better than the
horijons. The latter is also an unfortunate group
discriminated in everyday Indian life.
Based on the above analysis, to me if
Anisur Rahman holds a scholarly/ responsible position
in the Prothom ALo, we can only assume the sorry state of
intellectuality of this newspaper. However, we can
see these people are successfully engaging
in spreading Indian anti Muslim hatred even in outside
India through especially people like Anisur Rahman who
are working in Bangladesh as if more Indians than Indians in
India.
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016
at 4:31 AM, ANISUR RAHMAN <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>
wrote:
I think, there is no fantastic message in
this report. The 20 per cent Muslims make up 25 per cent
beggars, what is so abnormal in it? If anything, it only
shows that the Muslims are lazy, don't want to work and
have chosen the path of begging in the name of
God. The man in the
picture seems to be quite in good health. But wearing tupi
and good clothes, he gives the impression of a respectable
man. But probably he has no vocation, no knowledge, except
ability to recite some Quranic verses (without
understanding) and praying to God. This is what blind faith
makes a man - a beggar.
-
AR
On Saturday, 30 July
2016, 6:18, Isha Khan <bdmailer@gmail.com>
wrote:
One In Every Four
'Beggars' In India Is Muslim: Report
An elderly man sits along a street
as he waits for alms in Srinagar August 8, 2007.
REUTERS/Adnan Abidi
Nearly 25
percent of the 3.7 lakh Indians categorised as
"beggars" in
the 2011 Census are Muslim, according to data released last
month, reported
The Indian Express. That's a total of
92,760 Muslim beggars in India.
While most of beggars in India are Hindus—about 72.2
percent—Hindus
are also the majority religious group in India, accounting
for almost
four-fifths of the country's population. The number of
Muslim beggars is
significant as compared to their overall population in
India, which
stands at 17.22 crore as
per the last Census.
A majority of the Muslim beggars are women, which is contrary
to the national trend, where there are fewer women
beggars compared to men.
Earlier, reports have indicated that Muslims have the
lowest living standard in India, and spend less than
₹33 every day. The steadily increasing Muslim population
in India is neglected, reported
The Economist.http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/07/29/one-in-every-four-beggars-in-india-is-muslim-report/?ncid=fcbklnkinhpmg00000001
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