Whom you are fooling, not Muslims who are embracing Secularism . I hate to say, your observation are same as katmullah in neighborhood, when they are in minority. I don't know in Australia, who are minorities, I am assuming you are there.
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On Thu, 4/20/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: : [mukto-mona] Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam - contradicting tradition
To: "Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com, "Farida Majid" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>, "mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>, "Bangladesh-progressives Googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>, "ANISUR RAHMAN" <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>, "nabdc@googlegroups.com" <nabdc@googlegroups.com>, "Jalal Uddin Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>, "Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>, "Mohammad Aleem" <aleem53@yahoo.com>, "Javed Helali" <jhelali2000@yahoo.com>, "Rashed Anam" <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>, "Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>, "Quazi Haque" <quazi98@hotmail.com>, "Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>, "zainul abedin" <zainul321@yahoo.com>, "Outlook Team" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>, "Quazi Nuru" <quazinuru@yahoo.com>, "ShamimChowdhury" <veirsmill@yahoo.com>, "Dr. M. Mohsin Ali" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>, "S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2017, 9:41 PM
Mr. KO,
You
are a confused person. Muslims don't promote violence.
In today's world, violence in Muslim nations are
promoted or provoked by western worlds, either for their
financial gains or establish their supremacy. I believe you
are an educated person, use your brain n think rationally,
when a person's back leans against the wall by abusers,
there is no choice other than unexpected behaviour by the
victims. It's unfair to generalise the Muslims with
any individuals or groups or races.
Hope your heart opens up.
Razzak A. Syed
Sent from my iPhone
>
On 21 Apr 2017, at 11:18 am, Khoniker Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> S
Razzak,
> Is charity the only practice of
non Muslim that u will agree, to comply with surahs
mandating freedom of any religion. I thought qualifying
surah is .a big, no no, when it doesn't call for
violence or. Coercion.
>
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> On Tue, 4/18/17, Razzak Syed <amsmel@aol.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: : [mukto-mona] Re: Shafi of Hefojat Islam -
contradicting tradition
> To:
"Khoniker Othithee" <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> Cc: pfc-friends@googlegroups.com,
"Farida Majid" <farida_majid@hotmail.com>,
"mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com"
<mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>,
"Bangladesh-progressives Googlegroups" <bangladesh-progressives@googlegroups.com>,
"ANISUR RAHMAN" <anisur.rahman1@btinternet.com>,
"nabdc@googlegroups.com"
<nabdc@googlegroups.com>,
"Jalal Uddin Khan" <jukhan@gmail.com>,
"Rezaul Karim" <rezaulkarim617@gmail.com>,
"Mohammad Aleem" <aleem53@yahoo.com>,
"Javed Helali" <jhelali2000@yahoo.com>,
"Rashed Anam" <rashedanam1971@gmail.com>,
"Nuran Nabi" <nurannabi@gmail.com>,
"Quazi Haque" <quazi98@hotmail.com>,
"Post Card" <abahar.canada@gmail.com>,
"zainul abedin" <zainul321@yahoo.com>,
"Outlook Team" <zoglul@hotmail.co.uk>,
"Quazi Nuru" <quazinuru@yahoo.com>,
"ShamimChowdhury" <veirsmill@yahoo.com>,
"Dr. M. Mohsin Ali" <drmohsinali@yahoo.com>,
"S Akhter" <sakhter1015@gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, April 18, 2017, 10:13 PM
>
> "Kafir had no
provision for
> Secularism.
>
> a)
> Verse 149 of al-An'am : Everybody has
right
> to choose their own faith
> b)
> Verse 256 of Surah
al-Baqarah, La Ikraha Fiddin
> : There
can't any compulsion in religion.
>
> C)Verse 40 of Surah al-Raad,
> Verse 12 of Surah Hud, Verse 188 of Surah
al-A'raf and
> Verse 45 of Surah Qaf,
all validate freedom believes
>
>
> In Surah
> al-Ghashiyah, Verses 21 and 22 state: no
man can manage
> others belief. It is the
prerogative of Almighty only to
> judge
and He will do it only on the day of final
> judgement.
>
> Unlike kafir,
> Islam
validates pluralist vision with many faiths coexisting
> with respect each other, there no ifs or
buts here"
>
>
Above are true, now my
> questions to so
called secularists, which Muslims nations
> stops or compels non Muslims to follow
Islam? 10% Non
> Muslims and so called
Muslims Secularists are compelling 90%
>
Muslims to follow their ideology!! Offering loans or
funds
> to poorer to compel their faiths
like NGO's, Caritas,
> world vision
are the good examples.
>
> That's why Allah (SWT) mentioned
about
> these muslim secularists:
>
> "তারা
বধির, মূক ও
>
অন্ধ। সুতরাং তারা
ফিরে
> আসবে
না।"
>
>
> Razzak A. Syed
>
>
> Sent from my
> iPhone
>
>
>> On 19 Apr 2017,
at 11:08 am, Khoniker
> Othithee <khoniker.othithee@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Kafir had no
>
provision for Secularism.
>>
>> a)
>> Verse 149
of
> al-An'am : Everybody has right to
choose their own
> faith
>> b)
>> Verse
256
> of Surah al-Baqarah, La Ikraha
Fiddin : There can't any
> compulsion
in religion.
>>
>> C)Verse 40 of Surah al-Raad, Verse 12
of
> Surah Hud, Verse 188 of Surah
al-A'raf and Verse 45 of
> Surah Qaf,
all validate freedom believes
>>
>>
>> In Surah
al-Ghashiyah, Verses 21 and 22
> state:
no man can manage others belief. It is the
> prerogative of Almighty only to judge
and He will do it
> only on the day of
final judgement.
>>
>> Unlike kafir, Islam validates
pluralist
> vision with many faiths
coexisting with respect each other,
>
there no ifs or buts here
>
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