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Sunday, October 22, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} RED EYED AT HOME, TATTERS IN DIPLOMACY WITH BURMA, NO PRIZE FOR THE WORST PM OF BANGLADESH!!!



Thanks Saurav,


I am glad that finally someone understands British colonial legacy. I've been talking about Indian Penal Code and Thomas B. Macaulay (its author who drafted it in 1836), the arch Imperialist, with no response from these beef-witted 'mukto-mona' members.


By the way, you ought to look into the economic arrangement we had in Bengal prior to the forcible takeover by East India Company in 1770. It was not "feudal" in the European model, and there was a practicing 'egalitarian ethos' including gender equality.


Regards

Farida Majid



From: mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of saurav shome shomesaurav@gmail.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [mukto-mona] Re: {PFC-Friends} RED EYED AT HOME, TATTERS IN DIPLOMACY WITH BURMA, NO PRIZE FOR THE WORST PM OF BANGLADESH!!!
 
 

I think that for any functional democracy we want egalitarian ethos to practice. I do not want to expand my suspicion to the neo-liberal nexus with democratic polity in this discussion. Rather I would focus only to what I mean about colonial legacy. I am not sure about the Penal Codes of countries other than India. For India, IPC (Indian Penal Code) was written in 1860. Whereas Constitution was drafted in the late 1940s. Of course, a large chunk of constitution was taken from 1935's documents. When we had established democracy in politics in some sense, the other pillars of democracy and government were still having colonial past. We had not dismantled any colonial set up like Police System, Defence, Judiciary, and that include highest scientific institutions like CSIR.
I also believe that there are other serious issues in connection to colonial legacy. E.g. the nationalist movements emerge out as a reaction of British Colonialism has actually internalised ethos of colonial oppressive de-humanising mindset (at least some extent) and operated them at different levels. As a result parliamentary democracy failed to represent true face of common people of India. 
Thanking you.
With best regards,
Saurav

On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 8:23 PM, Shah Deeldar shahdeeldar@yahoo.com [mukto-mona] <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


You mean indigenous democracy? Based on what? Elaborate please if you care! The word colonial legacy has been used too frequently to denounce the past without putting forward any new revolutionary ideas.

"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"  -Churchill


On Sunday, October 22, 2017 9:45 AM, "saurav shome shomesaurav@gmail.com [mukto-mona]" <mukto-mona@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 
The kind of democracy we have in India is due to our colonial legacy and feudal structure of society. I think entire sub-continent is suffering from this problem (may be with different intensity). I think we need a sincere deliberation and sustained discourse on this.
Saurav 








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