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Saturday, October 14, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Re: : Transcript: Remarks by President Trump on Iran Strategy

Here is some more information for you. Here it is: Trump called generals in the White House and asked them to advise him, and formulate response to Iran Treaty, and, I am sure, they understand the risk and consequences of pulling out of Iran deal.

Just google how North Korea got the nuke, when Bill Clinton entered into a deal with NK to suspend all nuclear bomb development in exchange of billions of dollar aid. Also, watch Bill Clinton's speech over his diplomatic success to denuclearize NK. You will then understand why treaty and deal failed to curb NK from nuclear bomb development. It only helped that country to move faster with extra funds from USA.

This is my hypothetical end-game for Iran: Iran will not be allowed to have nuclear bomb. Israel, and Middle Eastern Sunni Kingdoms cannot afford Iran with nuclear bomb. Only future can tell how Iran will be stopped, but I know – it's not going to happen.

Are you worried about US business interests in Iran? I am not; I am worried about Nuke.

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Shah Deeldar [mukto-mona] <> wrote:

Yeah, I am really waiting for you to endorse my and other Europeans' 'unsubstantiated' arguments because you and Mr. Moron know better? FYI, I am not a liberal and you are not some hard nosed US hawk as you try to present to this forum. You think, American Republicans are liberals? How many do you really know and converse with?

What I see is that you have no arguments of your own except putting forward the very same arguments that never worked with any country except poor commie Cuba. We did not fix Iraq and we did not win in Afghanistan. And, North Koreans got their bombs! You want a medal for your hawkish position? With reimposed sanctions, Iran will get its bombs and US/Israel would not be able to do anything. If Russia comes into the picture as it did with Syria, what you do? Go and bomb Russian positions in Iran? Yes, these are hypothetical scenarios and that might be the end game. What substantive hypothetical scenario do you envision?

Sanctions would not work because Europeans, Russians, Chinese and Indians will be breaking them overtly and covertly because these are very sovereign countries with their own minds. Iran will buy Airbus planes instead of Boeing planes. US business would net loser no matter what you say or think. ExonMobil and Boeing would be the two top losers.

Would Iran survive? You bet!

On Saturday, October 14, 2017 3:18 PM, "Dristy Pat [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

These are not substantive arguments. These are your emotional reactions against Trump. I care about policies, not issues you have raised. I do not want to get involved in hypothetical arguments of removing Trump. That's the job of the liberals.

Do you know what happened to US soldiers just after signing the treaty? Iran stripped them off, and paraded them in public processions to humiliate USA.

You said, sanctions are ineffective. That's incorrect. In fact, effective sanctions brought Iran to the negotiation table. USA can prosper without Iran, but it will be hard for Iran to survive. As you know, USA is now an oil exporting nation.  It will be wrong to underestimate US power and influence in the world, as most liberals do.

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Shah Deeldar [mukto-mona] <> wrote:
US can put many more sanctions on Iran but that would not deter Iran to change its behavior.  Only US companies are going to be net losers by not engaging Iran while Europe, China, Russia and India will be there with full force. Can US really stop Iran developing bombs and ballistic missiles? How? Bomb?

Trump is becoming a total liability for the US and it is only matter of time when Pence will put an end to this grand misery. I had some sympathy for this man but when he challenges his own secretary of state for an IQ test, you know what has been going on with this man's mind. This man wanted to drain the swamp in DC but he, himself has been taking Air force one to Florida every week at the expense of taxpayers money. This man talks about improving Obama health care without even knowing how healthcare works in the US. God help this man!!!

On Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:15 AM, "Dristy Pat [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

Do you know something that we don't? Why is moronic about what Trump did?
As far as I know, with the existing deal, Iran got out of sanctions, which was crippling their economy. The deal is to stop  nuclear arms development for 10 years. What they are doing now is - developing ballistic missile technology instead. After 10 years, they will be free from the deal to develop nuclear arms, which will take another 1 or 2 years with help from North Korea. At that point, they are fully ready with delivery system. 

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 3:10 PM, DeEldar [mukto-mona] <> wrote:
A moron with his insane acts! What  a shame!

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Jamal Hasan <> wrote:

Office of the Press Secretary
______________________________ ______________________________ ____
For Immediate Release                             October 13, 2017
Diplomatic Reception Room
12:53 P.M. EDT
     THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.  My fellow Americans:  As President of the United States, my highest obligation is to ensure the safety and security of the American people. 
History has shown that the longer we ignore a threat, the more dangerous that threat becomes.  For this reason, upon taking office, I've ordered a complete strategic review of our policy toward the rogue regime in Iran.  That review is now complete.
Today, I am announcing our strategy, along with several major steps we are taking to confront the Iranian regime's hostile actions and to ensure that Iran never, and I mean never, acquires a nuclear weapon. 
Our policy is based on a clear-eyed assessment of the Iranian dictatorship, its sponsorship of terrorism, and its continuing aggression in the Middle East and all around the world.
Iran is under the control of a fanatical regime that seized power in 1979 and forced a proud people to submit to its extremist rule.  This radical regime has raided the wealth of one of the world's oldest and most vibrant nations, and spread death, destruction, and chaos all around the globe.
Beginning in 1979, agents of the Iranian regime illegally seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran and held more than 60 Americans hostage during the 444 days of the crisis.  The Iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah twice bombed our embassy in Lebanon -- once in 1983 and again in 1984.  Another Iranian-supported bombing killed 241 Americans -- service members they were, in their barracks in Beirut in 1983.
In 1996, the regime directed another bombing of American military housing in Saudi Arabia, murdering 19 Americans in cold blood.
Iranian proxies provided training to operatives who were later involved in al Qaeda's bombing of the American embassies in Kenya, Tanzania, and two years later, killing 224 people, and wounding more than 4,000 others.
The regime harbored high-level terrorists in the wake of the 9/11 attacks, including Osama bin Laden's son.  In Iraq and Afghanistan, groups supported by Iran have killed hundreds of American military personnel.
The Iranian dictatorship's aggression continues to this day.  The regime remains the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, and provides assistance to al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hezbollah, Hamas, and other terrorist networks.  It develops, deploys, and proliferates missiles that threaten American troops and our allies.  It harasses American ships and threatens freedom of navigation in the Arabian Gulf and in the Red Sea.  It imprisons Americans on false charges.  And it launches cyberattacks against our critical infrastructure, financial system, and military.
The United States is far from the only target of the Iranian dictatorship's long campaign of bloodshed.  The regime violently suppresses its own citizens; it shot unarmed student protestors in the street during the Green Revolution. 
This regime has fueled sectarian violence in Iraq, and vicious civil wars in Yemen and Syria.  In Syria, the Iranian regime has supported the atrocities of Bashar al-Assad's regime and condoned Assad's use of chemical weapons against helpless civilians, including many, many children.
Given the regime's murderous past and present, we should not take lightly its sinister vision for the future.  The regime's two favorite chants are "Death to America" and "Death to Israel."
Realizing the gravity of the situation, the United States and the United Nations Security Council sought, over many years, to stop Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons with a wide array of strong economic sanctions.
But the previous administration lifted these sanctions, just before what would have been the total collapse of the Iranian regime, through the deeply controversial 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.  This deal is known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA.
As I have said many times, the Iran Deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the United States has ever entered into.  The same mindset that produced this deal is responsible for years of terrible trade deals that have sacrificed so many millions of jobs in our country to the benefit of other countries.  We need negotiators who will much more strongly represent America's interest.
The nuclear deal threw Iran's dictatorship a political and economic lifeline, providing urgently needed relief from the intense domestic pressure the sanctions had created.  It also gave the regime an immediate financial boost and over $100 billion dollars its government could use to fund terrorism.
The regime also received a massive cash settlement of $1.7 billion from the United States, a large portion of which was physically loaded onto an airplane and flown into Iran.  Just imagine the sight of those huge piles of money being hauled off by the Iranians waiting at the airport for the cash.  I wonder where all that money went.
Worst of all, the deal allows Iran to continue developing certain elements of its nuclear program.  And importantly, in just a few years, as key restrictions disappear, Iran can sprint towards a rapid nuclear weapons breakout.  In other words, we got weak inspections in exchange for no more than a purely short-term and temporary delay in Iran's path to nuclear weapons.
What is the purpose of a deal that, at best, only delays Iran's nuclear capability for a short period of time?  This, as President of the United States, is unacceptable.  In other countries, they think in terms of 100-year intervals, not just a few years at a time. 
The saddest part of the deal for the United States is that all of the money was paid up front, which is unheard of, rather than at the end of the deal when they have shown they've played by the rules.  But what's done is done, and that's why we are where we are. 
The Iranian regime has committed multiple violations of the agreement.  For example, on two separate occasions, they have exceeded the limit of 130 metric tons of heavy water.  Until recently, the Iranian regime has also failed to meet our expectations in its operation of advanced centrifuges.  
The Iranian regime has also intimidated international inspectors into not using the full inspection authorities that the agreement calls for. 
Iranian officials and military leaders have repeatedly claimed they will not allow inspectors onto military sites, even though the international community suspects some of those sites were part of Iran's clandestine nuclear weapons program.
There are also many people who believe that Iran is dealing with North Korea.  I am going to instruct our intelligence agencies to do a thorough analysis and report back their findings beyond what they have already reviewed.
By its own terms, the Iran Deal was supposed to contribute to "regional and international peace and security."  And yet, while the United States adheres to our commitment under the deal, the Iranian regime continues to fuel conflict, terror, and turmoil throughout the Middle East and beyond.  Importantly, Iran is not living up to the spirit of the deal.
So today, in recognition of the increasing menace posed by Iran, and after extensive consultations with our allies, I am announcing a new strategy to address the full range of Iran's destructive actions.
First, we will work with our allies to counter the regime's destabilizing activity and support for terrorist proxies in the region.
Second, we will place additional sanctions on the regime to block their financing of terror.
Third, we will address the regime's proliferation of missiles and weapons that threaten its neighbors, global trade, and freedom of navigation.
And finally, we will deny the regime all paths to a nuclear weapon.
Today, I am also announcing several major steps my administration is taking in pursuit of this strategy. 
The execution of our strategy begins with the long-overdue step of imposing tough sanctions on Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.  The Revolutionary Guard is the Iranian Supreme Leader's corrupt personal terror force and militia.  It has hijacked large portions of Iran's economy and seized massive religious endowments to fund war and terror abroad.  This includes arming the Syrian dictator, supplying proxies and partners with missiles and weapons to attack civilians in the region, and even plotting to bomb a popular restaurant right here in Washington, D.C.
I am authorizing the Treasury Department to further sanction the entire Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps for its support for terrorism and to apply sanctions to its officials, agents, and affiliates.  I urge our allies to join us in taking strong actions to curb Iran's continued dangerous and destabilizing behavior, including thorough sanctions outside the Iran Deal that target the regime's ballistic missile program, in support for terrorism, and all of its destructive activities, of which there are many. 
Finally, on the grave matter of Iran's nuclear program: Since the signing of the nuclear agreement, the regime's dangerous aggression has only escalated.  At the same time, it has received massive sanctions relief while continuing to develop its missiles program.  Iran has also entered into lucrative business contracts with other parties to the agreement.
When the agreement was finalized in 2015, Congress passed the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act to ensure that Congress's voice would be heard on the deal.  Among other conditions, this law requires the President, or his designee, to certify that the suspension of sanctions under the deal is "appropriate and proportionate" to measure -- and other measures taken by Iran to terminate its illicit nuclear program.  Based on the factual record I have put forward, I am announcing today that we cannot and will not make this certification.
We will not continue down a path whose predictable conclusion is more violence, more terror, and the very real threat of Iran's nuclear breakout.
That is why I am directing my administration to work closely with Congress and our allies to address the deal's many serious flaws so that the Iranian regime can never threaten the world with nuclear weapons.  These include the deal's sunset clauses that, in just a few years, will eliminate key restrictions on Iran's nuclear program.
The flaws in the deal also include insufficient enforcement and near total silence on Iran's missile programs.  Congress has already begun the work to address these problems.  Key House and Senate leaders are drafting legislation that would amend the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act to strengthen enforcement, prevent Iran from developing an inter- -- this is so totally important -- an intercontinental ballistic missile, and make all restrictions on Iran's nuclear activity permanent under U.S. law.  So important.  I support these initiatives. 
However, in the event we are not able to reach a solution working with Congress and our allies, then the agreement will be terminated.  It is under continuous review, and our participation can be cancelled by me, as President, at any time.
As we have seen in North Korea, the longer we ignore a threat, the worse that threat becomes.  It is why we are determined that the world's leading sponsor of terrorism will never obtain nuclear weapons.
In this effort, we stand in total solidarity with the Iranian regime's longest-suffering victims: its own people.  The citizens of Iran have paid a heavy price for the violence and extremism of their leaders.  The Iranian people long to -- and they just are longing, to reclaim their country's proud history, its culture, its civilization, its cooperation with its neighbors.
We hope that these new measures directed at the Iranian dictatorship will compel the government to reevaluate its pursuit of terror at the expense of its people.
We hope that our actions today will help bring about a future of peace, stability, and prosperity in the Middle East –- a future where sovereign nations respect each other and their own citizens.
We pray for a future where young children -- American and Iranian, Muslim, Christian, and Jewish -- can grow up in a world free from violence, hatred, and terror.
And, until that blessed day comes, we will do what we must to keep America safe.
Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.  Thank you.
                        END                1:11 P.M. EDT


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