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Sunday, November 5, 2017

Re: [mukto-mona] Shouldn’t Rajshahi University be sued for discrimination against non-Muslim students?

"Had Gandhi not used Ramrajya to achieve political gains, hindutwavadis couldn't make any headway in India."

I do not agree with this above statement. Gandhi was only a player during that period. And, that is all...he was! Had he not been there, others would taken the fight to the finish line with a different slogan. Hindutwa-badis would not have just vanished to the background because a different man had taken the mantle. They were always a sleeping giant looking for their time and limelight. This is just another hypothesis based on ifs, buts and whats.

On Sunday, November 5, 2017, 11:22:52 AM EST, Kamal Das [mukto-mona] <> wrote:


I am in no way a religious apologist. Those who invoke God for political purpose ultimately succumb to such nonsense as which holy book is the best, in God we trust, or help me God. I want them all gone. Had Gandhi not used Ramrajya to achieve political gains, hindutwavadis couldn't make any headway in India. I am an equal opportunity of nonappeaser of religions. Those question makers don't belong in academia as much as help me God phrase doesn't belong to oath taking.

On 5 Nov 2017 8:43 p.m., "Sukhamaya Bain [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

Thank you, Mr. Deeldar. Dr. Das probably just wanted to make an argument that the USA also prefers religion by keeping mottoes like 'In God We Trust' on its coins. His argument obviously was very weak when he compared that with the substantive discrimination against non-Muslim students that the Rajshahi University admission test question caused. This kind of poor comparisons are generally made by the religious apologists. So, it was indeed very disappointing to see it from Dr. Das.


On Saturday, November 4, 2017 3:30 PM, "Shah Deeldar [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

I do not find any connection between a dumb Rajshahi University admission test question and a text of 'In God we trust' written on an American bill. I highly doubt whether Dr. SuBain had this narrative in his mind when he started this discussion? Yes, you are entitled to have your opinion.

On Friday, November 3, 2017, 5:32:42 PM EDT, Kamal Das [mukto-mona] <> wrote:

People all over the world do not look to BD for a standard. They do so to USA where the bible thumpers have taken leadership in politics. Is my point clear enough to you folks?

On 3 Nov 2017 3:42 a.m., "Shah Deeldar [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:
"In God We trust" is benign as a toilet paper. "The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War. Secretary of the Treasury Salmon P. Chase received many appeals from devout persons throughout the country, urging that the United States recognize the Deity on United States coins." - US Department of Treasury

Professor goes for a poor and wrong analogy rather than pointing out the poor quality of Bangladeshi education and its teachers. Writing on a coin or bill does not demand an answer of loyalty to Christianity..... but a 'wrong answer' in Bangladeshi admission test can seal one's fate forever. It favors certain community members unless the questioner and examiner is testing students' poor reasoning capability? Which I very much doubt given the Islamization of Bangladeshi education   The idea was to identify who belong to what religion. Alternatively, this moron wants to force people to answer the question in a certain way or lie to get the advantage of getting into the university. And that is wrong and criminal.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017, 9:36:17 PM EDT, Sukhamaya Bain [mukto-mona] <> wrote:

I am sure, you know better than this, Dr. Das!

Morons are morons, true; but not all morons are the same. For example, the morons in the USA allow mosques to be built in this country; but the morons of Saudi Arabia do not allow any non-Muslim place of worship in their country.

I am sure, you know that if this question were in an admission test at a US university, the the morons who wrote and approved the question would have been fired already, and the university would have faced a number of multi-million dollar lawsuits for intimidating, insulting and discriminating against the non-Christian students.

The USA and most of the Western nations were founded by Christians; but the mottoes likes 'In God we trust' are certainly losing popularity in the USA/West; as opposed to what you see with Islam in Bangladesh. For example, the cacophony of prayer calls from the mosques are torture to non-Muslims, including a lot of people whose parents were Muslims; and you know how much it has increased over the last decade.


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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:58 PM, "Kamal Das [mukto-mona]" <> wrote:

In a world where oath has to be taken with bible in hand, and "In God We Trust" Has to be written on coins and dollar bills, religious books reign supreme. Question about them can be blasphemy and punishable with death sentence. There is hardly any difference between morons of the third world and super morons of the developed world.


Posted by: Shah Deeldar <>

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