Dear Brother Ramjan
Cyrus was not attacking Islam I feel - he was attacking one
interpretation/ school/ organisation of Islam.
Jamaat addresses aspects of Islam that are not addressed by other
groups - and hence its appeal. Even Jammatis will say that you don't have to support Jamaat in order to be a muslim! In Bangladesh young and old are drawn voluntarily to Jamaat because ideals of discipline, purpose, brotherhood and morality are simply not part of the common language anymore. That doesn't mean that Jamaat practices these ideals - it is simply enough that Jamaat even dares to talk about such noble things.
Any ascendancy of Jamaat in Bangladesh cannot be to the credit of
Jamaat alone - for it is the failure of AL and BNP to address the
concerns of huge numbers of Bangladeshi Muslims that has mainly
driven so many citizens into the Jamaati fold.
Its very easy to say 'Bangladesh is secular' and end of chapter. But
AL and BNP should also have a dynamic dialogue with millions who
doubt secularism - these citizens need leaders too. Secularism is itself an ideal - but it needs to be protected proactively by dialogue and demonstration. The best defence of secularism in countries like Bangladesh is to demonstrate that secular leaders are examples of good character. It is this failure that feeds disenchantment with modern politics and drives people into radical political Islam.
By the way the old days when you can tell a jamaati from his cap and
beard are gone. Nowadays high ranking Army personnel, senior civil
servants, wealthy businessmen, clever students and the rickshaw
puuler may support Jamaat - without cap or beard.
It is the failure of centre politics that drives people to the
extremes. Its easy to challenge Jamaat - and it should be
challenged. But BNP and AL should be challenged much harder because
they are driving people to Jamaat!
Brother Ramjan. Jamaat fills a vacuum that is created by the absence of ethical leadership in AL and BNP. There is still much good in Jamaat that cannot be denied. But the future of Bangaldesh - and the world - cannot be Islam as practised in Saudi Arabia. Forget it. It is simply oil money that cushions, bribes and enslaves the human spirit that is bursting to be free in Saudi Arabia.
May Allah help us all to understand Islam better. Freedom (free
will) and democracy (ask the ummah) are essential elmements of Islam.
STUPID, STUPID, STUPID AL and BNP. I'm no Jamaati - but if Hasina or
Khaleda come back - I might as well join Jamaat. Dear Alochoks,
don't write to me and tell me not to - Bangladeshi politics has
driven millions of your countrymen into the arms of Jamaat already!
And all AL and BNP can do is accommodate Jamaat!
ONLY IN BANGLADESH CAN TRAITORS STILL BECOME MINISTERS! What a
country - what a land of opportunity! Hey AL and BNP! You are the
real traitors - more than Jamaat!
On the otherhand Jamaat is the only party that understands the
meaning of medium term and long term. AL and BNP can't see more than
a year ahead! Elections are after a year. And it will take me a year
to grow a proper beard!
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@...> wrote:
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> Cyrus Zulkarnaïan Kazi
> I don't want to have any debut with you. You have already
expressed your views about Zamath and as well as on Islam. Ok comes
out from Islamic teachings and norms. What we have seen by the
secularist (Awami), how they are killing Zamath workers at Dhaka
city:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LvDjppNH5U
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> Kindly watch
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> So this the world without Islam where you all stands for.
>
> Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> Kuwait
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> To: alochona@...: cyruskazi@...: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:44:39 -
0500Subject: Re: [ALOCHONA] Jamaate Islami has more corrupt people
than any other party!!!
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> Mr. Ramjan:
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> A pseudo-political party that is founded upon morally corrupt,
intellectually vacuum, and inhumane principles of the Wahabis under
the disguise of Islam, a group of people that has such a notorious
history of ruthlessness, little or no regard for human life, and
that banks on the ideologically fragile and spiritually lost -
calling such a platform of hatred, bigotry, ignorance, and
repression "Clean" is, in my opinion, equally morally and
intellectually vacuous.
>
> If ever, the saddest day befalls upon our country when the
ideology of Jamaat and its group of goons become the governing
principles of Bangladesh, I assure you, that will be the day when
Islam will fail to represent the message of peace. And when that day
arrives, if ever, just like our ancestors who fought so bravely
against ideological, social, and political tyranny, many of us would
fight until the last goon of Jamaat is sent back to its ideological
Mecca, to their racist, sexist, tyrant, slave-owning masters in the
Middle-East.
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> Cyrus Zulkarnaïan Kazi
> On Nov 17, 2007 8:56 AM, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@...> wrote:
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> It is unfortunate that your research is misleading in way to
understand the Jamath e Islami. Insha Allah in future you can. You
have referenced the following news papers which are, have been
regarded, as far most anti Islamic and anti Jamath propogator and
financed by RAW to better serve the Indo-Jewish-USA interest.
>
> Two minister of Jamath e Islami already have declared if anybody
find two Taka Durniti. Three Jamath MP are arrested for the
following reason:
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> MP Dr. Sayed Abu Taher - arrested because an Awami Leaguer filed a
case against him that he is a terrorist ????????? in chodda gram
Comilla. People of Chudda Gram will give better witness of him.
>
> MP shajahan Chowdhury is arrested by media propagation. 1. He
built a Scholl on Government Khash Land, reply : the land was
legally taken from the proper authority on which the school is built
and serving 100's of poor students in that locality and moreover the
school is not his personal property.
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> 2. He did not include his sold out car in his property list.
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> Another MP kept the C.I. Sheet in his store just to save it from
the thief. The MP established a Krishi College by himself which was
under construction. C.I. sheet was granted by Thana Nirbahi Officer
and was kept with other construction materials in his store but that
was not for his personal use.
>
> Further more this for all parties information that Jamath e Islami
is so instrumented and organised that there is no family or
personality role inside the jamath. Even if Maulana Matiur Ur
Rahaman Nizami do anything wrong he will be quitted from the Jamath
instantly. Jamath e Islami is internally very very clean, which, the
outer world can not imagine.
>
>
> Bangladesh is now transforming. Insha Allah the future is waiting
for the victory of Islam (as politically and social ideology).
> May Allah keep us all on his right path.
>
> Thanking you
>
> Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> Kuwait
>
>
> To: alochona@...: m_musa92870@...: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:52:37 +0000
Subject: [ALOCHONA] Jamaate Islami has more corrupt people than any
other party!!!
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>
> The following link says it all:http://amadershomoy.com/news.php?
id=210490&sys=3Is there any political party who can stand in front
of Jamaat morally? I don't see any. The following is from
Janakantha's editorial: So based on above analysis, we can say
Jamaatis are both war criminals and corrupt politicians. They are
the real enemies of the country and we need to bring them to justice
for their unconscionable lifestyle (deceiving people with beard and
outward sunnah appearance), corruption, abuse of power, hypocrisy
and moral political bankruptcies, right? I only thank to Allah for
the fact that only 17 MPs were elected from this pseudo-Islamic and
pseudo-religious party.More on
Jamaat:http://www.dailyinqilab.com/november4/pdf/n2.pdfPlease read
the last paragraph of the following link from Prothom
Alo:http://prothom-alo.com/archive/news_details_home.php?dt=2007-11-
02&issue_id=416&nid=MTE1Njg=
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