[ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait

Dear Mr. Ejazur

 My apologies. I cannot write fast like you and I did not had that much time to spare to reply to your posting in time.

Mr. Ejazur again my intention is not to embarrass you, but only for your knowledge I should tell you that not only one but there are many restaurants in Sheraton Kuwait and there is not only one but there are many restaurants in Crowne Plaza Kuwait. The average cost of one meal per person in the restaurants in Sheraton Kuwait is 9-12 KD. The average cost of one meal per person in Crowne Plaza is also in the same range. How much you save per meal depends upon in which restaurant you are taking your meal and not in which Hotel as both these hotels are classified as 5 star hotels. I am not very sure about Crowne Plaza but for sure Sheraton Kuwait gives special discounts to employees of certain organizations like KNPC, KOC, and KPC etc. One more clarification, Crowne Plaza Kuwait has 2 ballrooms at its basement and each one accommodates around 500 persons.

 Mr. Ejazur your posting is full of fallacies. I don't think nobody can wake you up as you prefer to keep your eyes closed. I pray that God gives you the strength and ability to comprehend and understand the present crisis prevailing in the country. You seem to support the poor General so enthusiastically that you start to exaggerate to justify his wrong doings. (I used the word exaggerate).

As usual you seem interested in my politics. Mr. Ejazur may I know your politics? Which political camp you belonged to before 1/11?  Mr. Ejazur why you are interested in my politics? If I have said something wrong, tell me it is wrong. Put up your arguments and I may agree with you. The situation right now is that if someone asks how somebody managed to sneak in VIP lounge you start brawling about the dalals of BNP and AL. Sorry Mr. Ejazur nobody asked why the Gen. choose a 5 star hotel for his meeting but you started to defend the Gen. What people should call you then?

I don't disagree that there was corruption, mismanagement and what not in the last 36 years (and in the last 15 years if that makes you happy). That does not mean at all that nothing was done during this time. Yes we could and we should have prospered more.. But we still feel proud when we see nice garments made in Bangladesh in leading stores in Europe, North America and Middle East. I will be injustice if you give the credit of it to Army rule.

And Mr. Ejazur I did not want to bring the most recent events in the country in this discussion. Look how the things have boomeranged. If I describe it in one sentence, your General has ambitions; unfortunately he does not have the talents.

So Mr. Ejazur join with me. Let us call spade a spade. What is wrong is wrong. What is right is right. Don't see who said it. Listen what he said.

 

Saeed

--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Saeed Bhai
>
> Of course I am interested in your politics – we are talking politics.
> Your personal attacks on me are not as important :)
>
> I don't know anyone who has a single meal, by himself, once a year in
> a 5 star hotel. In a year, with family, friends, receptions etc I
> save at least KD 300 using the Crowne Plaza and not the Sheraton.
> This buys one regular plane ticket and three with the budget
> airlines. Relax.
>
> The event in Kuwait was paid for by the professional community which passionately, or cautiously, supports the CTG. No public money was sought or needed. And no money from manpower dalals and hundi dalals was used - that money is exclusively for visits by Hasina and Khaleda.
>
> Answering a question with a question is embarrassingly evasive.
> Dalals may turn up at the VIP lounge for the General. After all we
> are talking about Bangladesh. But chances are most dalals are scared
> of the General. And many more would turn up for our democratic Hasina
> and Khaleda!
>
> I asked no one to conceal their identity. I said be careful not to
> reveal too much. I accept you may be my nemesis but please, you
> really must try harder.
>
> The CTG has failed miserably to address:
> 1.The cause of food price inflation
> 2.The suffering of those most affected by food price inflation
> 3.Address the concerns of the public about the direction of the
> country
> 4.The doubts of the public about its visions and strategies
> 5.The lack of information about the successes it has achieved
> 6.The lack of information about the failures it has suffered
> 7.The concerns of honest, reformist politicians in all parties
> 8.The slow state of reform in the police forces
> 9.The confusions created by the comments of foreign envoys
> 10.The slow progress on challenging war criminals and fundamentalists
>
> Each of these above issues is critical to the mission of any
> government. I categorically accept that this government has made
> these failures. Bangladesh is born of an election and will breathe
> through elections. We are a freedom loving, democratic people. A
> democratically elected government, operating through Parliament, is
> the way forward. No one wants a military dictator, behind the scenes
> or in front. I can name another 10 failures of the CTG effortlessly.
>
> But that does not mean we get Hasina and Khaleda back as fast as
> possible. No sir, it does not. You trust the General's judgement to
> rise up at the right moment. Thank you. We differ only then in
> whether to trust the General's judgement about when to leave. Based
> on the political parties, and only on that, that time has not yet
> arrived, in my opinion.
>
> You could have had your election in January 2008. Please present your
> evidence that the General would not have to rise up again, at the
> right time as you say, in the future. The Army is the Darwan. The
> Darwan is still better than AL and BNP, in their condition as on
> 1/11/07 and 11/6/08.
>
> The civilized world likes a civilized government, preferably a
> civilian one. Lets talk about real issues – lets talk about how
> civilized our civilian governments are.
>
> Pakistan and India have unique problems that we do not have. Even
> then, Pakistan and India have still thrived – in every sense of the
> word – in spite of corruption, because they still have stars that can
> rise in their skies and shine. You wouldn't dare have an aptitude
> test competition between the politicians – and Prime Ministers - of
> Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.
>
> The recent arrests of say 30,000 people is in keeping with the
> strategy and objectives of the CTG. We can live with lakhs of
> innocent, law abiding citizens facing life changing harassment under
> AL and BNP. So we can live with the temporary incarceration of 30,000
> louts, touts, thugs, agitators and criminals. They may hold local
> political posts but that doesn't change this definition. These people
> must be challenged head on. Otherwise after the next election lakhs
> of law abiding citizens will become victims again. It's the reality
> of Bangladesh. I look forward to the lists in our media of innocent
> law abiding citizens who have been recently arrested…..
>
> I'm sure tens of millions of Bangladeshis may well know about real
> hardship than me but I see no evidence that you are one of them. We
> are sparring but this particular accusation of yours is especially
> galling. It would not even occur to me to say such a thing to you.
> Nevermind.
>
> We are merely scratching the skin of our country. I am none the wiser
> about your politics. And I know your politics runs much deeper than
> calling a spade a spade.
>
> `I don't disagree that in the past hundred thousands of ordinary
> citizens were harassed because of their political opinions, with the
> lame excuse that they are criminals.'
>
> Thank you at least for this solitary, lost and lonely, isolated
> statement – cutting to the very heart of our nation's real condition.
>
> Ethical duties and burdens rest more with AL and BNP than with the
> Army. I believe Allah will punish someone for the suffering of our
> people – and He will forgive the Army's expected failures more easily
> than He will forgive the unexpected failures of the elected
> representatives of the Peoples Republic of Bangladesh.
>
> Best wishes still
>
> Ezajur Rahman
> Kuwait
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> saeedurrehman92@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> >
> >
> >
> > If is a person is sleeping you can wake him up. But you cannot wake
> up a
> > person who is only pretending to be sleeping.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr. Ejazur, it seems that you are interested to know my political
> > identity. I remember in the past you have posed the same question to
> > many others. Let me tell you that I like many others and unlike very
> > handful, I call spade a spade. I will appreciate a person; let it
> be Tom
> > or Harry, if he or she is doing well for the country. In the same
> token
> > if someone in my opinion (mind you I said in my opinion, somebody
> may
> > differ with me) has been other way around, I simply can not
> appreciate
> > it. For example, I can appreciate Hussain Mohammad Irshad for
> improving
> > the communication system in the country but cannot appreciate him
> for
> > his other deeds. This is point many of us are trying to make. We
> > don't try to justify the wrongs of the politicians rather we are
> > critical of them. But for some handful of people, good or bad Gen.
> Moeen
> > is the best. They are trying to justify all his deeds and all his
> > misdeeds. I again pose you the same question, nobody asked you that
> why
> > the brave Gen. choose Crowne Plaza for his meeting. (I think by this
> > time he would have a retired Gen. had he not extended his tenure
> > himself) You justify it by claiming that this is the cheapest 5 star
> > hotel in Kuwait. Thanks God, hundred times that you did not claim
> that
> > it was a free treat from Hotel Crowne Plaza. Who could have
> challenged
> > if you had said so. You are so blind with the deeds or misdeeds of
> the
> > Gen. that you think 200 is the smallest gathering. Man, who paid the
> > bills. Of course it was paid by the Embassy of Bangladesh on
> Government
> > of Bangladesh account. When Hasina was in Kuwait, such expenditures
> were
> > borne by AL affiliated businessmen. (These are your words not mine).
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't disagree that in the past hundred thousands of ordinary
> > citizens were harassed because of their political opinions, with the
> > lame excuse that they are criminals. But what about now? How many
> are
> > put behind jails in the past few days fearing there may be an
> agitation
> > in favor of any political party? What is the difference between the
> past
> > and the present? Why we have to harp beautiful songs for this act of
> > bravery?
> >
> >
> >
> > I know your limitations. I know you cannot apprehend the suffering
> of a
> > common man. I understand you don't know the feelings of the man in
> > the street. But I believe you can still understand the present
> situation
> > in the country by the electronic media which you have access to.
> See and
> > read how many people have gone below the poverty level during the
> past
> > 15/16 months. These are not my words neither these are the words of
> any
> > political party.
> >
> >
> >
> > I asked your identity because you were advising one gentleman to
> conceal
> > his identity. That made your own identity doubtful. Otherwise, who
> cares
> > you are neutral or neutered.
> >
> >
> >
> > You said it is simply a matter of getting a pass sponsored by
> either the
> > VIP party or the host party to get in the VIP lounge of Kuwait
> Airport.
> > You further said see how many party fruitcakes and party dalals
> turn up
> > in the VIP lounge when an AL or BNP MP or Minister turns up. I pose
> you
> > the same question, how many dalals of brave Gen. Moeen turned up at
> > Kuwait Airport when he turned up.
> >
> >
> >
> > Even if I buy your words, a meal in Sheraton Kuwait will cost you
> > maximum 20 KD. Even if I buy your word, a meal in Crowne Plaza will
> cost
> > you minimum 1 KD. So you are buying a ticket to Bangladesh with 19
> KD. I
> > can only pray for you.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the end I will tell you to look around yourself. Look at India.
> India
> > prospered only because there was a political government. By the way
> the
> > politicians in India were also corrupt. Look at Pakistan. Pakistan
> > faltered because Pakistan was run mostly by brave Generals. Not only
> > they were brave, their jehad was against corruption also.
> >
> >
> >
> > And remember one thing more, CIVILIZED WORLD LIKE CIVILIAN
> GOVERNMENT.
> > We appreciate the bravery of Gen. Moneen. He rose up a right
> moment. Now
> > is time for him to go back to his barracks. He had enough shake
> hands.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Saeed
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Alochok Saeed
> > >
> > > Our disagreement over hotels is not about minimum standards - it
> is
> > > about the highest standards. I said the Sheraton was the most
> > > prestigious hotel in Kuwait and you seek to cast doubt on me by
> > > deeming even this harmless statement to be either an exaggeration
> or
> > > lie!
> > >
> > > The fact that nobody asked me why the Crowne Plaza was hired does
> not
> > > stop me from stating why it was hired. It was hired because it is
> the
> > > cheapest five star hotel in Kuwait.
> > >
> > > Under the nethri system lakhs of ordinary citizens are harassed
> > > because of their political opinions. People lose land, jobs, legal
> > > protection, state protection, business opportunities etc – just
> > > because they oppose the ruling party and its nethri. Be honest
> about
> > > the condition of the country. I was not writing about my own
> > > security – I was advising others to be careful. You don't need to
> > > worry about your own security I think as long as you continue to
> > diligently avoid talking real politics.
> > >
> > > Yes, I am very afraid of the possibility that a nethri might come
> to
> > > power because I think it will be terrible for the country. You on
> the
> > > other hand, well I have no idea what you think… But you are
> > probably
> > > a Nethrist…
> > >
> > > Sorry, what do you mean real identity? You don't even state your
> own
> > > political views or your own identity but you go around questioning
> > > other people's views and identities. It's so typical of so many
> > > people nowadays who promote their own political agenda only by
> > > attacking others – never explaining their own positions and
> > > pretending to be neutral. Neutered is a better word than neutral.
> > >
> > > 200 is indeed a small gathering. God only knows what your idea of
> a
> > > big gathering is! Though I'm sure if a better hotel was chosen
> there
> > > would have been more room :)
> > >
> > > The brave General came to Kuwait on the invitation of the Kuwait
> Army
> > > to discuss issues relating to the Bangladesh Army personnel
> serving
> > > in Kuwait. He, and the professional community here, took that
> > > opportunity to have a dialogue. Its simple.
> > >
> > > Accessing the VIP lounge is not a matter of sneaking in through
> the
> > > back door – it is simply a matter of getting a pass sponsored by
> > > either the VIP party or the host party. I think you know how easy
> it
> > > is to get a pass if you know the right people. See how many party
> > > fruitcakes and party dalals turn up in the VIP lounge when an AL
> or
> > > BNP MP or Minister turns up :)
> > >
> > > I think Nizami should be tried for war crimes and would disagree
> with
> > > Mr Bhuiyan if he thought otherwise. I congratulate General Moeen
> on
> > > at least showing the way that Nizami, on whatever grounds, can at
> > > least be arrested. The Nethris never had the courage, or the
> > > character, to do anything. The arrest of Nizami is not a ploy to
> > > divert attention. The public's demands for the trial of war
> > > criminals, and their exclusion from elections, remains intact –
> > even
> > > reinvigorated after the arrest of Nizami.
> > >
> > > In the end I thank you for your interest in my money. I spend it
> at
> > > the Crowne Plaza instead of the Sheraton, because with the money
> thus
> > > saved I can buy another plane ticket to Bangladesh :)
> > >
> > > There are minimum standards and highest standards in politics –
> > and
> > > in hotels. Though I appreciate standards in hotels are easier to
> > > discuss than standards in your preferred political party :)
> > >
> > > I remain in good humour and hope you are too.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > Kuwait
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> > > saeedurrehman92@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > > >
> > > > I thank you for your advisory words to Mr. Bhuiyan. I believe he
> > > owes it
> > > > from you because you and him are living in the same country.
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Ejazur should I remind you very humbly that every 5 star
> hotel
> > > > (everywhere, and not only in Kuwait) has a minimum standard and
> > > that is
> > > > why it is categorized as a 5 star hotel. And why are so
> defensive?
> > > > Nobody asked you why it was hired for the brave Gen.'s meeting.
> Of
> > > > course there are many places in Kuwait which are cheaper than
> and
> > > better
> > > > than the 5 star hotel you mentioned.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to say it Mr. Ejazur, but it is clear that you think
> yourself
> > > a
> > > > celebrity. Come `n man be brave like our beloved General. Deep
> in
> > > > your conscious or subconscious you still think one of the
> nethris
> > > will
> > > > come to power again. And if you are identified now, you will be
> > > harassed
> > > > then. Mr. Ejazur, please don't be a paranoid. Don't feel
> > > > yourself that important. Believe you me nobody will bother to
> > > harass men
> > > > like you and me for their political believes. By the way what is
> > > your
> > > > real identity?
> > > >
> > > > Should I remind you again, Kuwait is also part of this world.
> Many
> > > > Bangladeshis still live there. (I am not talking about our
> unskilled
> > > > brothers). Surely they are more than 200. Who picked those 200
> and
> > > on
> > > > what criteria?And you call 200 a smallest gathering. Give me
> break
> > > man.
> > > > And why the brave Gen. and if he is really brave, did not been
> to
> > > Saudi
> > > > Arabia or to Bahrain. We have more problems with our expatriate
> > > > community than in Kuwait.
> > > >
> > > > My intention is not to embarrass you but fact is that nobody,
> unless
> > > > authorized, is allowed to enter the VIP lounge of Kuwait
> Airport.
> > > Not to
> > > > talk about entering, he is not even allowed to drive on the road
> > > leading
> > > > to VIP lounge. Mr. Ejazur you admitted in the past that you do
> > > > exaggerate but don't lie. In what category it falls,
> exaggeration or
> > > > a lie. Is not it clear to everybody that Mr. Bhuiyan exaggerate
> (or
> > > lie)
> > > > like you so you have come for his rescue as he does not have any
> > > answer
> > > > to any of the questions.
> > > >
> > > > I am not a supporter of Jamaat-i-Islami but I believe that Mr.
> > > Nizami
> > > > should have been behind bars not for GATCO but for war crimes.
> Mr.
> > > > Bhuiyan, you call Gen. a very brave man. You are a very die-hard
> > > > supporter of Jamaat. So you endorse that Nizami was corrupt or
> you
> > > think
> > > > it is a ploy of the brave General to divert public attention
> and to
> > > stop
> > > > people calling for war criminal trials.
> > > >
> > > > In the end Mr.Ejazur, please don't spend your money in Crowne
> Plaza
> > > > Hotel. Go to Fahaheel to Ali Baba hotel. The money thus saved
> can be
> > > > used for the country.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Saeed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Mohammed Ramjan
> > > > >
> > > > > You were indeed unfortunate to attend the reception at the
> Crowne
> > > > > Plaza - the General gave an excellent speech! There were only
> 200
> > > > > guests as space was limited but everyone certainly had a
> > > thoroughly
> > > > > refreshing evening - the community spoke about the problems
> of our
> > > > > labourers and the General spoke about efforts underway to fix
> > > some of
> > > > > the problems. This would never have been possible under a
> > > political
> > > > > government because the crooks are all politically
> protected : )
> > > > >
> > > > > Come on man! The Crowne Plaza is a fine hotel but it is
> probably
> > > the
> > > > > cheapest five star hotel in Kuwait! Sheesh. It was hired
> solely
> > > > > because it was the cheapest :D I've hired the same ballroom
> used
> > > for
> > > > > Mooen U Ahmed's reception several times - because it was the
> > > > > cheapeast :D
> > > > >
> > > > > Be careful about giving too much personal information on these
> > > > > forums - there are real people who provoke you for an answer
> only
> > > to
> > > > > identify you. So that when their Nethri comes to power they
> will
> > > > > harass you. I don't give a rats backside about such challenges
> > > but I
> > > > > am also a reckless person too. Be careful.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know one person who managed to access the VIP lounge and
> give
> > > their
> > > > > regards to Moeen U Ahmed. Its not so difficult. As if the VIP
> > > Lounge
> > > > > of ZIA Airport cannot be accessed! Yes Kuwait is part of the
> > > > > world :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Write to me directly and lets meet up! And we can have a nice
> > > cheap
> > > > > meal at the Crowne Plaza Hotel and discuss who supports which
> > > nethri
> > > > > on the internet but is too ashamed to actually say it : )
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a nice day
> > > > >
> > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > Kuwait
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92" saeedurrehman92@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Mr.Bhuiyan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think that you were unfortunate that you could not see
> Gen.
> > > Moin
> > > > > at
> > > > > > Hotel Crown Plaza (again one of the most prestigious Hotels
> in
> > > > > Kuwait).
> > > > > > And, I think that the General was fortunate that he did not
> see
> > > > > you. You
> > > > > > said it was smallest public gathering. In what capacity you
> were
> > > > > invited
> > > > > > there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, you said that you went to VIP lounge of Kuwait
> Airport
> > > along
> > > > > with
> > > > > > Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defense Ministry officials
> in (or
> > > > > on)
> > > > > > the day of his departure. Were you from Bangladesh Embassy
> or
> > > from
> > > > > > Kuwaiti Defense Ministry? In your few minutes talk you
> > > found "this
> > > > > > general a man of high personalities (or personality),
> really a
> > > > > brave son
> > > > > > of Bangladesh". I don't know that I should agree with you
> or not
> > > > > > but I found you a man of high personalities (or personality)
> > > though
> > > > > I am
> > > > > > not sure if you are a brave son of Bangladesh. One shake
> hand
> > > and
> > > > > you
> > > > > > knew everything about the General.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to remind you that Kuwait is also part of the
> world
> > > > > and if
> > > > > > not all some people know how the business is conducted
> there. My
> > > > > > brotherly advice, try to be honest don't exaggerate or lie.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saeed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Mohammed Ramjan <mramjan@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fortunately or unfortunately I was invited to attend
> General
> > > Moin
> > > > > U
> > > > > > Ahmed's smallest public gathering in Crown Plaza Hotel
> Kuwait.
> > > Due
> > > > > to
> > > > > > some other reason I did not attend the gathering.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In the day of his departure at Kuwait Airport VIP lounge,
> I
> > > was
> > > > > > present with Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defence ministry
> > > > > officials.
> > > > > > I found this general a man of high personalities, really a
> brave
> > > > > son of
> > > > > > Bangladesh. Our talk was held for few minutes, shake hands
> and
> > > > > finally
> > > > > > goodbye.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Same day I have handed over a book (binder) on "Land use
> > > > > Technology" a
> > > > > > subject on development control process and planning
> permission,
> > > > > which
> > > > > > technology UK implementing from 1948. Unfortunately in
> India,
> > > > > Pakistan ,
> > > > > > Bangladesh, no where this subject was included for study in
> any
> > > > > > engineering college/university or in any polytechnic
> Institute.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We want implementation of this valuable technology in
> > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanking you all
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> > > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To: alochona@: ezajur.rahman@: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:21:11
> > > > > > +0000Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Alochok ZaheedMany thanks for your call for good
> manners.
> > > > > Though
> > > > > > to be honest I am probably the one most guilty of bad
> > > manners : ) I
> > > > > am
> > > > > > writing to you because you have smashed the proverbial nail
> on
> > > the
> > > > > head
> > > > > > by saying..."...putting forth information, references,
> logic,
> > > > > > anti-logic, philosophy and morals..."This is precisely the
> > > point -
> > > > > there
> > > > > > is hardly any such debate anywhere. People are so tied up
> in the
> > > > > > technicalities, strategies, problems, processes, etc that
> > > thorough
> > > > > > political debate on the issues (any issue) simply does not
> > > exist.
> > > > > Our
> > > > > > papers are busy collecting handouts, press releases,
> quotations
> > > and
> > > > > > numbers. Our editors and tv pundits are busy pondering the
> > > > > mechanisms of
> > > > > > democracy and not the meaning of democracy. And thats about
> > > > > it.WHERE ARE
> > > > > > THE GREAT NATIONAL DEBATES ON HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION,
> > > ENVIRONMENT,
> > > > > LOCAL
> > > > > > GOVERNMENT AND THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN A MODERN BANGLADESH?
> Sure
> > > > > there's a
> > > > > > debate on food prices but that debate happened because there
> > > was no
> > > > > > choice.Go to any BNP and AL meeting and talk to them about
> any
> > > of
> > > > > these
> > > > > > subjects. Some will look bewildered, some will get angry
> > > because you
> > > > > > didn't mention the 'nethri' and some will think you are a
> > > showoff
> > > > > from
> > > > > > abroad.But get back to the fight for power and everyone is
> an
> > > > > expert!
> > > > > > It's like we're all stuck in a neverending third rate Hindi
> > > daytime
> > > > > soap
> > > > > > opera!The Army is indeed the darwan. The electorate is the
> > > > > landlord. The
> > > > > > politcial parties are the tenants. The darwan has indeed
> taken
> > > over
> > > > > > because the tenants are wrecking the house and the landlord
> is
> > > fed
> > > > > up.
> > > > > > The darwan broke some flashy vases and ruined some precious
> > > > > paintings -
> > > > > > but the house itself was saved. As with all jonogonists,
> fancy
> > > talk
> > > > > > about the lower classes ultimately gave way to scornful
> disdain
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > lowly darwan!And personal attacks are all part of the fun -
> and
> > > a
> > > > > good
> > > > > > measure of how effective one is :) Best wishesEzajur
> > > RahmanKuwait---
> > > > > In
> > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Zaheed Naser zaheed_naser@
> wrote:>>
> > > Dear
> > > > > > Alochok,> > We all support a party, group or ideology one
> way or
> > > > > another
> > > > > > and speak for them in a direct or subtle way and dear Ejajur
> > > > > obviously
> > > > > > speaks for CTG and definitely is not the best friend of the
> two
> > > > > begums!
> > > > > > Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes, I donft, whichever,
> > I
> > > > read
> > > > > > his writings with care and attention obviously because of
> the
> > > fact
> > > > > that
> > > > > > he knows how to dish it out well (and does he write well
> when
> > > he is
> > > > > > pissed off J). My attempt here is to draw attention to the
> fact
> > > > > that we
> > > > > > shouldnft get personal (licking and all that phrases....)
> > when
> > > > we
> > > > > > are indulging in an argument, we have the right to speak
> for any
> > > > > party
> > > > > > and we can do that by putting forth information, references,
> > > logic,
> > > > > > anti-logic, philosophy and morals and anything except
> stooping
> > > down
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the low level of attacking any Alochok personally with
> indecent
> > > > > words! >
> > > > > > > Regards,> Zaheed> > > Sajjad Hossain shossain456@ wrote:>
> Do
> > > not
> > > > > wash
> > > > > > your hands. Lick it for the rest of your life. Did you jump
> on
> > > his
> > > > > feet?
> > > > > > Moeen U Ahmed is a "Daroan" of the Country. When a "Daroan"
> > > takes
> > > > > over
> > > > > > the house, then everything collapses. > > SH> Toronto> >
> ezajur
> > > > > > ezajur.rahman@ wrote:> Khaleda Zia became BNP leader and PM
> > > because
> > > > > she
> > > > > > is the wife of Ziaur > Rahman. BNP would have broken into
> > > various
> > > > > groups
> > > > > > if the symbolism of > Khaleda was absent. Khaleda
> maintained her
> > > > > > position by a network of > patronage, corruption and the
> > > ruthless
> > > > > > removal of all internal > opposition.> > Hasina Wajed
> became AL
> > > > > leader
> > > > > > and PM because she is the daughter of > Sheikh Mujib. AL
> would
> > > have
> > > > > > broken into various groups if the > symbolism of Hasina was
> > > absent.
> > > > > > Hasina maintained her postion by a > network of patronage,
> > > > > corruption
> > > > > > and the ruthless removal of all > internal opposition.> >
> Tell
> > > it
> > > > > the
> > > > > > way it is man Enot the way it makes your patriotic ego >
> > feel
> > > > > > good.> > Where was I asking you to worship me or Moeen?> You
> > > don't
> > > > > have
> > > > > > the guts or the ability to write 20 strong lines > against
> > > Hasina or
> > > > > > Khaleda for anything.> And that's why, in reality, you do
> > > worship
> > > > > them.>
> > > > > > > I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man who
> went
> > > > > after >
> > > > > > Nizami. I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man
> who
> > > > > went >
> > > > > > after Salauddin Qader Chowdhury. But I don't expect you to
> > > > > understand >
> > > > > > that. Please continue with the pechali, bhejali rubbish that
> > > has >
> > > > > > ruined our country.> > The same ladies you admire were
> crazy to
> > > give
> > > > > > malas to Dr Yunus when > he got the Nobel Prize. But when he
> > > dared
> > > > > to
> > > > > > enter politics they > hurled abuse at him like the selfish
> > > > > hypocrites
> > > > > > they are. Even though > as a citizen he is perfectly
> entitled to
> > > > > enter
> > > > > > politics. Becasue these Royal Begums can't stand anyone
> else in
> > > > > their
> > > > > > Kingdom.> > Don't give me that jonogonist mumbo jumbo.
> That's
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Royal > Khaleda and Royal Hasina to say during their
> > > campaigns.> > I
> > > > > > haven't lost my mind. I just see that something is better
> than >
> > > > > > nothing.> > Are you looking forward to the election man and
> > > making
> > > > > some
> > > > > > money if > Hasina and Khaleda become PM? I am! If Hasina and
> > > Khaleda
> > > > > > become PM > I'm going to make some real money. Deshi style!
> > > Talk the
> > > > > > jonogon talk > and fill my pockets with the nation's money
> at
> > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > time.> > Maybe I could write a book: HOW TO MAKE MONEY WITH
> AL
> > > AND
> > > > > BNP
> > > > > > EFOR > DUMMIES.> > Ezajur Rahman> Kuwait> > --- In
> > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@> >
> > > wrote:>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > > Khaleda Zia became Prime Minister of Bangladesh on her own
> > > credit >
> > > > > and
> > > > > > elected by the people. She was not there by virtue of the
> > > mighty >
> > > > > gun.
> > > > > > 99% of Bangladeshis belong to lower-middle or middle class.
> To >
> > > > > what
> > > > > > class Mr Ezajur belong to? To what class Gen Moen Uddin
> Ahmed >
> > > > > belong
> > > > > > to? Royal class? Are you asking us to worship you? Sorry I
> am >
> > > not
> > > > > > worshiping Hasina or Khaleda. Both of them are leading two
> > > large >
> > > > > > political parties for more than two decades. They posses
> strong
> > > >
> > > > > > leadership qualities. Your Gen Moen has tried to form one
> > > political
> > > > > >
> > > > > > party with the help of C grade politicians and Nobel Prize
> > > winner
> > > > > but >
> > > > > > has failed to even kick off.> > > > These army boot lickers
> have
> > > > > lost
> > > > > > their minds.> > > > ezajur <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> > Dear
> > > > > Alochoks> > >
> > > > > > > Or perhaps I should prefer the State visit of Khaleda to
> > > Kuwait a
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > couple of years ago. Yes, perhaps her visit was more
> dignified
> > > than
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > the visit of Moeen U Ahmed. > > > > She wanted to buy some
> > > > > jewellery.
> > > > > > She was advised that the finest > > jewellers in Kuwait
> would
> > > > > happily
> > > > > > take a wide selection of pieces > to > > her hotel. She was
> > > advised
> > > > > to
> > > > > > go to a prestigious location. But she > > took the advice of
> > > some
> > > > > idiots
> > > > > > and went to one of the worst gold > > markets in Kuwait. As
> she
> > > > > walked
> > > > > > through the shops onlookers were > > bemused by her
> entourage.
> > > Who
> > > > > is
> > > > > > she? Why is she here? The market > > that seldom saw an
> upper
> > > middle
> > > > > > class Indian was now graced by the > > Prime Minister of
> > > > > Bangladesh. Of
> > > > > > course our jonogonists will say > she went to the shops of
> the
> > > > > common
> > > > > > man. But of course she bought > nothing > > there and in
> the end
> > > > > went to
> > > > > > an exclusive shop and purchased a few > > trinkets and
> baubles -
> > > > > costing
> > > > > > well beyond the dreams of the common > > man. Any idea how
> much
> > > she
> > > > > > spent?> > > > Good old Bangladeshi democracy.> > > > It's a
> > > > > slapstick
> > > > > > comedy.> > > > Regards> > > > Ezajur Rahman> > Kuwait> > >
> > ---
> > > In
> > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:>
> >
> > > >> > >
> > > > > > Dear Alochoks> > > > > > On the other hand perhaps I am
> wrong.
> > > > > Perhaps I
> > > > > > should prefer > > Hasina > > > to Moeen U Ahmed. Perhaps I
> > > should
> > > > > prefer
> > > > > > her State visit to > Kuwait > > > back in 2000. The
> businessmen
> > > of
> > > > > AL
> > > > > > held a reception for her in > the > > > Grand Ballroom of
> the
> > > > > Sheraton
> > > > > > Hotel. Perhaps I should be proud > of > > > when the Foreign
> > > > > Minister,
> > > > > > Abdus Samad Azad, declared that the > > > audience should
> shout
> > > `Joy
> > > > > > Bangla' in honour of The Nethri. And > as > > > the
> chandeliers
> > > > > shook to
> > > > > > the refrain of a 800 idiots chanting Joy > > > Bangla the
> front
> > > > > rows of
> > > > > > VIPs, Ambassadors, MPs and Ministers > > quickly > > > and
> > > quietly
> > > > > > escaped through the side doors. And the receptionists > >
> and >
> > > > >
> > > > > > security men ran around the hotel like headless chickens.
> And >
> > > > > other >
> > > > > > > > guests thought some terrorists had attacked. And like a
> > > > > brilliant >
> > > > > > > > Foreign Minister he turned to one side of the crowd and
> > > raising
> > > > > >
> > > > > > his > > > hand urged them to shout even louder because he
> could
> > > not
> > > > > hear
> > > > > > > > them. > > > And Hasina just smiled with happiness.> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > The
> > > > > > Sheraton Hotel, the oldest and most prestigious hotel in > >
> > > > > Kuwait, > >
> > > > > > > entwined with the very history of Kuwait itself, witness
> to
> > > the >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > graciousness of a 1,000 stately receptions over the decades,
> > > had > >
> > > > > > just > > > seen its most ungracious day.> > > > > > But
> then who
> > > > > cares
> > > > > > that the rest of Kuwait just thought:> > > > > > What else
> do
> > > you
> > > > > expect
> > > > > > from the Prime Minister and Foreign > > Minister > > > of
> the
> > > > > > cleanersElt;BR>> > > > > Regards> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman>
> > > >
> > > > > > Kuwait > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
> > > > > > <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Saeed Bhai> > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well I was just saying that I was privileged to shake his
> hand >
> > > > > and> >
> > > > > > > > wish him well. Pretty modest compared to what you might
> be
> > > > >
> > > > > > thinking> > > > for Hasina or Khaleda : )> > > > > > > > He
> is
> > > > > certainly
> > > > > > not one of the greatest personalities on> > > > earth but
> > > > > definitely one
> > > > > > of the bravest in Bangladesh.> > > > > > > > The future
> does not
> > > > > belong
> > > > > > to him or me. But it belongs to all > of > > us> > > > who
> want
> > > a
> > > > > > Bangladesh without Hasina and Khaleda and all that > > they
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > represent. And in spite of all the mistakes the possibilty
> of >
> > > > > that > >
> > > > > > > future exists only because of the courage of the CTG. Not
> > > because
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > of > > > anyone else or anything else.> > > > > > > > What
> is
> > > this
> > > > > apple
> > > > > > polishing you speak of? What do you know > about> > > > real
> > > apple
> > > > > > polishing? Look at what our people do with Hasina and> > > >
> > > > > Khaleda -
> > > > > > the puja, the worshipping, the polishing, the > malishing,>
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > the
> > > > > > thel dhalano, the chamchagiri.. It is record breaking! We >
> >
> > > > > could> > >
> > > > > > > turn it into an export industry! But you won't mention
> that >
> > > > > will > >
> > > > > > > you.> > > > That's too uncomfortable. Far easier to talk
> > > about me
> > > > > and
> > > > > > my> > > > handshake.> > > > > > > > And what is this pity
> you
> > > feel?
> > > > > What
> > > > > > do you know about real > pity?> > > > Where is your pity
> for our
> > > > > people
> > > > > > who are made fools of by> > > > politicians year after year
> > > with lie
> > > > > > after lie? Where is your > pity> > > > for a democracy where
> > > > > democracy
> > > > > > ONLY means that political > > operatives> > > > are allowed
> to
> > > do
> > > > > > anything they want? Where is your pity for a> > > >
> democracy
> > > where
> > > > > if
> > > > > > you challenge the leader of your party your > > house> > > >
> > > gets
> > > > > burned
> > > > > > down? You won't speak of such uncomfortable truths. > >
> Far> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > easier to talk about me wishing the General well.> > > > >
> > >
> > > > You
> > > > > > should wish him well too. For because of him the voter >
> rolls
> > > > > >
> > > > > > will> > > > be more accurate than ever before. The voting
> booths
> > > > > will be
> > > > > > > more> > > > secure than ever before. The vote count will
> be
> > > more
> > > > > > legitimate > > than> > > > ever before. The voters will be
> safer
> > > > > than
> > > > > > every before. Your > > dream> > > > will come true - you
> will
> > > have
> > > > > your
> > > > > > free and fair election > between> > > > corrupt parties.> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't dream of a future where unelected, unaccountable >
> > > > > officials> >
> > > > > > > > are forced to act because of the stupidity of elected >
> >
> > > > > > politicians. I> > > > dream of a future where AL and BNP
> behave
> > > like
> > > > > > proper democratic> > > > parties in a modern Bangladesh.
> And the
> > > > > CTG has
> > > > > > done more to > > achieve> > > > that than the Central
> > > Committees of
> > > > > AL
> > > > > > or BNP. People who slam > the> > > > CTG and claim to be
> neutral
> > > > > never
> > > > > > ever talk about AL and BNP. > If > > > they> > > > did then
> they
> > > > > would
> > > > > > be really making a difference.> > > > > > > > Look at our
> > > country.
> > > > > Be
> > > > > > honest. We have far more to pity than > > Moeen> > > > and
> > > > > Fakhruddin
> > > > > > and dreamers like me.> > > > > > > > By the way - who do you
> > > think I
> > > > > > should vote for? Hasina or > > Khaleda?> > > > Why?
> Convince me
> > > > > without
> > > > > > insulting me : )> > > > > > > > Best wishes> > > > > > > >
> > > Ezajur
> > > > > > Rahman> > > > Kuwait> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"> > > >
> > > > > <saeedurrehman92@>
> > > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur> > > > >>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thousand and one congratulations on your one of the
> biggest> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > achievements. I hope you have not washed your hands after >
> >
> > > > > shaking >
> > > > > > > > it> > > > > with Gen. Moeen's hand. You must preserve
> the
> > > scent
> > > > > of
> > > > > > him on > > > your> > > > > hands. The future definitely
> belongs
> > > to
> > > > > you
> > > > > > because you > shaked > > > hands> > > > > with one the
> greatest
> > > > > > personality on earth.> > > > >> > > > > I really don't feel
> bad
> > > > > feel bad
> > > > > > when I read a writing like > > this.> > > > Nice> > > > >
> piece
> > > of
> > > > > apple
> > > > > > polishing. I, however, feel pity for a nation > in> > > >
> > > which> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > people like this exists.> > > > >> > > > > Saeed> > > > >>
> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
> <ezajur.rahman@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Alochoks> > > > > >> > >
> > > >
> > > > > > Yesterday I had the privilege and the honour of shaking the
> > >
> > > > > hand> >
> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed. He is on an
> official
> > > visit
> > > > > to
> > > > > > Kuwait.> > > > Whilst> > > > > > he was largely surrounded
> by
> > > > > people who
> > > > > > supported the CTG > and > > > who> > > > > > were showering
> him
> > > with
> > > > > > their views I got the opportunity on> > > > behalf> > > > >
> >
> > > of all
> > > > > > supporters of the CTG to wish him good health, long > >
> life> >
> > > > >
> > > > > and>
> > > > > > > > > > > continued success. He reiterated that the nation
> > > needed
> > > > > an> >
> > > > > > > > election> > > > > > in December 2008.> > > > > >> > > >
> > >
> > > > > Moeen U
> > > > > > Ahmed and Dr Fakhruddin are great men and I remain> > > >
> > > > > defiantly> > >
> > > > > > > > > supportive. Becasue of such men we know that change
> is > >
> > > > > > possible.> > > > > > Because of such men even politicians
> now
> > > > > believe
> > > > > > that > change > > is> > > > > > possible. That change, so
> > > > > desperately
> > > > > > needed, must finally > be> > > > decided> > > > > > by our
> > > > > politicians.
> > > > > > But there is no doubt that it is these > > men > > > who> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > threw the ball back in the pitch. Lets all pray that the >
> > > teams> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > play> > > > > > sincerely.> > > > > >> > > > > > And for
> those
> > > who
> > > > > think
> > > > > > that standing next to Hasina or > > Khaleda> > > > is a> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > greater privilege than shaking the hand of Dr Yunus, Dr> >
> > >
> > > > > > Fakhruddin or> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed - even if
> your
> > > dreams
> > > > > > come true, the > > > future> > > > > > still does not
> belong to
> > > > > you.> >
> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Ezajur
> Rahman>
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kuwait> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Faruque Alamgir > >
> faruquealamgir@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > IDIOTS ALWAYS THNKS THEM
> AS THE
> > > > > > GREATEST INTELIGENT SO > THE > > > CASE> > > > > > WITH OUR
> > > > > > FRIEND....................................> > > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Faruque Alamgir> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi
> > > > > s_ayubi786@>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: Fakahruddin's speech> > > > > > was an
> > > excellent
> > > > > one.
> > > > > > Why nitwits like yourself criticise > him > > is> > > > > >
> > > beyond
> > > > > my
> > > > > > comprehension. Instead of using a very famous > man's > > >
> > > name> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > as your mask why dont you appear in your own name. You
> are>
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > disgracing a great man. You with your level of
> intelligence >
> > > >
> > > > > will>
> > > > > > > > > > > never reach anywhere near what the great man
> achieved
> > > in
> > > > > his>
> > > > > > > > > > > lifetime. Stop bullshitting and misguiding
> people. I
> > > do
> > > > > not >
> > > > > > > feel> > > > > > that the country is safe in the hands of
> our
> > > kind
> > > > > of >
> > > > > > > > politicians,> > > > > > most of whom do not have the
> basic
> > > > > education
> > > > > > behind them. > Era> > > > shobai> > > > > > foot pather
> neta.
> > > bhalo
> > > > > > kichu bojhar ba korar shamortho eder> > > > > > akebarei
> nei.>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > .> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi> > > > > > >> > > > > >
> > ---
> > > On
> > > > > Tue,
> > > > > > 5/13/08, mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@ > > > wrote:>
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Subject: [Dahuk]: Thanks Fakhruddin - you have made us > >
> > > laugh >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > by> > > > > > your sermon> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > tritiomatra@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > chottala@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > > khabor@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > dahuk@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > > vinnomot@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
> > > > > notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:11 AM> > > > > >
> >> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > > > > তুমি কর
> > মঈনুE¦°>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > লুE¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿
> > > > ঁE¦°> >
> > > > > > > > > লুE¦•à¦šà¦¾à¦°> > > > > >
> > > > > > ছাুEলুE¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿
> > > > > > না> > > > > করার> > > > > > জন্য
> > > > ।>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > দ্রব্যমূল্যুE¦°> > > > >
> > > > > > কষ্টুE¦°> > > > > >
> > মধ্যুE¦"
> > > > > > হাসির খোরাঁElt;BR>> > > >
> > > > > > যোঁElt;BR>> > > > > াঁE¦²à¦¾
> > > > > > ফখরদ্দি> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > যথাসময়ুE জরুরি> > > > >
> > > > > > ঁE¦E¦¨à§E¦° ধার> > > > > > া
> > > > > > স্থগিত বা শিথিল,> > > > > >
> > > > > > লুE¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿> > > > >
> > > > > > রাজনীতির ঁElt;BR>> > > > >
> > > > > > পসংস্কুE¦¤à¦¿
> > থুE¦•à§Elt;BR>>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > উদ্ধার জর> > > > > > ুরি,
> > > > > > প্রাতিষ্ঠানিঁEà¦"> > > > >
> > > > > > ঁE¦E¦¨à¦¿> > > > > >
> > > > > > সংস্কারুE¦°> > > > >
> > > > > > ধারাবাহিকতা> > > > > >
> > বজাুE
> > > > > > জাতীুElt;BR>> > > >
> > > > > > নির্বাচনুE¦° ঁE¦Elt;BR>> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > ুEউপজুE¦²à¦¾,
> > পৌরসà¦&shy;া
> > > > > > à¦"> > > > > সিটি কর> > > > > >
> > > > > > পোরুE¦¶à¦¨à§E¦°
> > নির্বাচন,>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > নির> > > > > > ্বাচনী ফল
> > > > > > মুE¦¨à§EনুE§Ÿà¦¾> > > > > >
> > > > > > নিশ্চিত
> > করতুEহবুElt;BR>> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.manabzam in.net/lead- 01.htm> > > > > > >> >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >
> > > > > > তত্ববধায়কদুE¦°> > > > >
> > > > > > তাবুE¦¦à¦¾à¦°> > > > > > দুE¦°
> > > > > > জুতা দিয়ুEপিটাà¦",> > > >
> > >
> > > > > > জুE¦²à§Elt;BR>> > > > > যাà¦",
> > > > > > তিনবুE¦²à¦¾> > > > >
> > > > > > নিশ্চিন্তুEঁElt;BR>> > > > >
> > > > াà¦">
> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >
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