Dear Saeed Bhai
No apologies needed – we are all busy with families and work. Take
your time.
You know Kuwait well enough and if you ever do visit again I would be
privileged to meet you. You will find me to be far more affable than
you think.
There is no question of embarrassment on my part regarding hotels.
You are still talking about a few `average' meals a year when I have
already mentioned that I use hotels far more than this. From memory,
for dining with round tables, the Crowne Plaza seats 200 (Afrah), 300
(Andalus) and 100+(Marjan). The Sheraton seats 700 (Diamond), 200
(Dana) and 400 (Crystal). My Crowne Plaza Privilege card gives me 50%
off for a meal for two – hard to beat!
I may be full of fallacies but after you say this you should follow
up with a specific example.
I enquire about your politics because we are talking politics. I am
no longer interested because you don't want to talk about your
politics. I had thought you would but I was mistaken.
My politics should be glaringly obvious. My politics are non partisan
and neutral. I support any party which puts forward the right
policies and right candidates. I am not committed to BNP, AL, JP or
Jamat. If I was committed, I would not hesitate to defend my party in
public or publicly demand change in my party. As we are a politically
immature country we have to put up with lots of talk from party
people who pretend to be neutral.
Everything about me is about brawling about touts, thieves, dalals
and criminals in AL and BNP. Until these people are tackled (what a
polite word!) justice and democracy will remain a mockery in our
country.
I give credit for our garments industry to our businessmen and
workers. It is preposterous to suggest giving credit for this to the
military! If you are seeking to give a lot of credit for this to AL
or BNP then please state so explicitly. Then perhaps we can talk
about the wages and working conditions of slaves. Our people deserve
far, far, far, far more than a successful garment industry.
Recent events are simply another chapter in the story. There's plenty
of time yet. I never defended the policy failures of the General or
CTG. I have only defended the General and CTG against people who
can't say a harsh word about Hasina or Khaleda but find lots to say
about the General and CTG.
I have joined you and called a spade a spade. That's why in my last
message I listed and categorically accepted some of the CTG's
failures. Your descriptions of the last 36 years are certainly not
calling a spade a spade – they are defensive and bland.
The spade that needs to be properly called, before all else, is the
leadership of the `democratic' parties of Bangladesh.
Once you can call that spade we can finally get rid of the Army in
politics forever, and have the democracy that our nation deserves.
Regards
Ezajur Rahman
Kuwait
--- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
<saeedurrehman92@...> wrote:
>
>
> Dear Mr. Ejazur
>
> My apologies. I cannot write fast like you and I did not had that
much
> time to spare to reply to your posting in time.
>
> Mr. Ejazur again my intention is not to embarrass you, but only for
your
> knowledge I should tell you that not only one but there are many
> restaurants in Sheraton Kuwait and there is not only one but there
are
> many restaurants in Crowne Plaza Kuwait. The average cost of one
meal
> per person in the restaurants in Sheraton Kuwait is 9-12 KD. The
average
> cost of one meal per person in Crowne Plaza is also in the same
range.
> How much you save per meal depends upon in which restaurant you are
> taking your meal and not in which Hotel as both these hotels are
> classified as 5 star hotels. I am not very sure about Crowne Plaza
but
> for sure Sheraton Kuwait gives special discounts to employees of
certain
> organizations like KNPC, KOC, and KPC etc. One more clarification,
> Crowne Plaza Kuwait has 2 ballrooms at its basement and each one
> accommodates around 500 persons.
>
> Mr. Ejazur your posting is full of fallacies. I don't think nobody
> can wake you up as you prefer to keep your eyes closed. I pray that
God
> gives you the strength and ability to comprehend and understand the
> present crisis prevailing in the country. You seem to support the
poor
> General so enthusiastically that you start to exaggerate to justify
his
> wrong doings. (I used the word exaggerate).
>
> As usual you seem interested in my politics. Mr. Ejazur may I know
your
> politics? Which political camp you belonged to before 1/11? Mr.
Ejazur
> why you are interested in my politics? If I have said something
wrong,
> tell me it is wrong. Put up your arguments and I may agree with
you. The
> situation right now is that if someone asks how somebody managed to
> sneak in VIP lounge you start brawling about the dalals of BNP and
AL.
> Sorry Mr. Ejazur nobody asked why the Gen. choose a 5 star hotel
for his
> meeting but you started to defend the Gen. What people should call
you
> then?
>
> I don't disagree that there was corruption, mismanagement and what
> not in the last 36 years (and in the last 15 years if that makes you
> happy). That does not mean at all that nothing was done during this
> time. Yes we could and we should have prospered more.. But we still
feel
> proud when we see nice garments made in Bangladesh in leading
stores in
> Europe, North America and Middle East. I will be injustice if you
give
> the credit of it to Army rule.
>
> And Mr. Ejazur I did not want to bring the most recent events in the
> country in this discussion. Look how the things have boomeranged.
If I
> describe it in one sentence, your General has ambitions;
unfortunately
> he does not have the talents.
>
> So Mr. Ejazur join with me. Let us call spade a spade. What is
wrong is
> wrong. What is right is right. Don't see who said it. Listen what he
> said.
>
>
>
> Saeed
>
> --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Saeed Bhai
> >
> > Of course I am interested in your politics – we are talking
> politics.
> > Your personal attacks on me are not as important :)
> >
> > I don't know anyone who has a single meal, by himself, once a
year in
> > a 5 star hotel. In a year, with family, friends, receptions etc I
> > save at least KD 300 using the Crowne Plaza and not the Sheraton.
> > This buys one regular plane ticket and three with the budget
> > airlines. Relax.
> >
> > The event in Kuwait was paid for by the professional community
which
> passionately, or cautiously, supports the CTG. No public money was
> sought or needed. And no money from manpower dalals and hundi
dalals was
> used - that money is exclusively for visits by Hasina and Khaleda.
> >
> > Answering a question with a question is embarrassingly evasive.
> > Dalals may turn up at the VIP lounge for the General. After all we
> > are talking about Bangladesh. But chances are most dalals are
scared
> > of the General. And many more would turn up for our democratic
Hasina
> > and Khaleda!
> >
> > I asked no one to conceal their identity. I said be careful not to
> > reveal too much. I accept you may be my nemesis but please, you
> > really must try harder.
> >
> > The CTG has failed miserably to address:
> > 1.The cause of food price inflation
> > 2.The suffering of those most affected by food price inflation
> > 3.Address the concerns of the public about the direction of the
> > country
> > 4.The doubts of the public about its visions and strategies
> > 5.The lack of information about the successes it has achieved
> > 6.The lack of information about the failures it has suffered
> > 7.The concerns of honest, reformist politicians in all parties
> > 8.The slow state of reform in the police forces
> > 9.The confusions created by the comments of foreign envoys
> > 10.The slow progress on challenging war criminals and
fundamentalists
> >
> > Each of these above issues is critical to the mission of any
> > government. I categorically accept that this government has made
> > these failures. Bangladesh is born of an election and will breathe
> > through elections. We are a freedom loving, democratic people. A
> > democratically elected government, operating through Parliament,
is
> > the way forward. No one wants a military dictator, behind the
scenes
> > or in front. I can name another 10 failures of the CTG
effortlessly.
> >
> > But that does not mean we get Hasina and Khaleda back as fast as
> > possible. No sir, it does not. You trust the General's judgement
to
> > rise up at the right moment. Thank you. We differ only then in
> > whether to trust the General's judgement about when to leave.
Based
> > on the political parties, and only on that, that time has not yet
> > arrived, in my opinion.
> >
> > You could have had your election in January 2008. Please present
your
> > evidence that the General would not have to rise up again, at the
> > right time as you say, in the future. The Army is the Darwan. The
> > Darwan is still better than AL and BNP, in their condition as on
> > 1/11/07 and 11/6/08.
> >
> > The civilized world likes a civilized government, preferably a
> > civilian one. Lets talk about real issues – lets talk about how
> > civilized our civilian governments are.
> >
> > Pakistan and India have unique problems that we do not have. Even
> > then, Pakistan and India have still thrived – in every sense of
> the
> > word – in spite of corruption, because they still have stars that
> can
> > rise in their skies and shine. You wouldn't dare have an aptitude
> > test competition between the politicians – and Prime Ministers -
> of
> > Pakistan, Bangladesh and India.
> >
> > The recent arrests of say 30,000 people is in keeping with the
> > strategy and objectives of the CTG. We can live with lakhs of
> > innocent, law abiding citizens facing life changing harassment
under
> > AL and BNP. So we can live with the temporary incarceration of
30,000
> > louts, touts, thugs, agitators and criminals. They may hold local
> > political posts but that doesn't change this definition. These
people
> > must be challenged head on. Otherwise after the next election
lakhs
> > of law abiding citizens will become victims again. It's the
reality
> > of Bangladesh. I look forward to the lists in our media of
innocent
> > law abiding citizens who have been recently arrested…..
> >
> > I'm sure tens of millions of Bangladeshis may well know about real
> > hardship than me but I see no evidence that you are one of them.
We
> > are sparring but this particular accusation of yours is especially
> > galling. It would not even occur to me to say such a thing to you.
> > Nevermind.
> >
> > We are merely scratching the skin of our country. I am none the
wiser
> > about your politics. And I know your politics runs much deeper
than
> > calling a spade a spade.
> >
> > `I don't disagree that in the past hundred thousands of ordinary
> > citizens were harassed because of their political opinions, with
the
> > lame excuse that they are criminals.'
> >
> > Thank you at least for this solitary, lost and lonely, isolated
> > statement – cutting to the very heart of our nation's real
> condition.
> >
> > Ethical duties and burdens rest more with AL and BNP than with the
> > Army. I believe Allah will punish someone for the suffering of our
> > people – and He will forgive the Army's expected failures more
> easily
> > than He will forgive the unexpected failures of the elected
> > representatives of the Peoples Republic of Bangladesh.
> >
> > Best wishes still
> >
> > Ezajur Rahman
> > Kuwait
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> > saeedurrehman92@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If is a person is sleeping you can wake him up. But you cannot
wake
> > up a
> > > person who is only pretending to be sleeping.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Ejazur, it seems that you are interested to know my
political
> > > identity. I remember in the past you have posed the same
question to
> > > many others. Let me tell you that I like many others and unlike
very
> > > handful, I call spade a spade. I will appreciate a person; let
it
> > be Tom
> > > or Harry, if he or she is doing well for the country. In the
same
> > token
> > > if someone in my opinion (mind you I said in my opinion,
somebody
> > may
> > > differ with me) has been other way around, I simply can not
> > appreciate
> > > it. For example, I can appreciate Hussain Mohammad Irshad for
> > improving
> > > the communication system in the country but cannot appreciate
him
> > for
> > > his other deeds. This is point many of us are trying to make. We
> > > don't try to justify the wrongs of the politicians rather we are
> > > critical of them. But for some handful of people, good or bad
Gen.
> > Moeen
> > > is the best. They are trying to justify all his deeds and all
his
> > > misdeeds. I again pose you the same question, nobody asked you
that
> > why
> > > the brave Gen. choose Crowne Plaza for his meeting. (I think by
this
> > > time he would have a retired Gen. had he not extended his tenure
> > > himself) You justify it by claiming that this is the cheapest 5
star
> > > hotel in Kuwait. Thanks God, hundred times that you did not
claim
> > that
> > > it was a free treat from Hotel Crowne Plaza. Who could have
> > challenged
> > > if you had said so. You are so blind with the deeds or misdeeds
of
> > the
> > > Gen. that you think 200 is the smallest gathering. Man, who
paid the
> > > bills. Of course it was paid by the Embassy of Bangladesh on
> > Government
> > > of Bangladesh account. When Hasina was in Kuwait, such
expenditures
> > were
> > > borne by AL affiliated businessmen. (These are your words not
mine).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't disagree that in the past hundred thousands of ordinary
> > > citizens were harassed because of their political opinions,
with the
> > > lame excuse that they are criminals. But what about now? How
many
> > are
> > > put behind jails in the past few days fearing there may be an
> > agitation
> > > in favor of any political party? What is the difference between
the
> > past
> > > and the present? Why we have to harp beautiful songs for this
act of
> > > bravery?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I know your limitations. I know you cannot apprehend the
suffering
> > of a
> > > common man. I understand you don't know the feelings of the man
in
> > > the street. But I believe you can still understand the present
> > situation
> > > in the country by the electronic media which you have access to.
> > See and
> > > read how many people have gone below the poverty level during
the
> > past
> > > 15/16 months. These are not my words neither these are the
words of
> > any
> > > political party.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I asked your identity because you were advising one gentleman to
> > conceal
> > > his identity. That made your own identity doubtful. Otherwise,
who
> > cares
> > > you are neutral or neutered.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You said it is simply a matter of getting a pass sponsored by
> > either the
> > > VIP party or the host party to get in the VIP lounge of Kuwait
> > Airport.
> > > You further said see how many party fruitcakes and party dalals
> > turn up
> > > in the VIP lounge when an AL or BNP MP or Minister turns up. I
pose
> > you
> > > the same question, how many dalals of brave Gen. Moeen turned
up at
> > > Kuwait Airport when he turned up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Even if I buy your words, a meal in Sheraton Kuwait will cost
you
> > > maximum 20 KD. Even if I buy your word, a meal in Crowne Plaza
will
> > cost
> > > you minimum 1 KD. So you are buying a ticket to Bangladesh with
19
> > KD. I
> > > can only pray for you.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In the end I will tell you to look around yourself. Look at
India.
> > India
> > > prospered only because there was a political government. By the
way
> > the
> > > politicians in India were also corrupt. Look at Pakistan.
Pakistan
> > > faltered because Pakistan was run mostly by brave Generals. Not
only
> > > they were brave, their jehad was against corruption also.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And remember one thing more, CIVILIZED WORLD LIKE CIVILIAN
> > GOVERNMENT.
> > > We appreciate the bravery of Gen. Moneen. He rose up a right
> > moment. Now
> > > is time for him to go back to his barracks. He had enough shake
> > hands.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Saeed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Alochok Saeed
> > > >
> > > > Our disagreement over hotels is not about minimum standards -
it
> > is
> > > > about the highest standards. I said the Sheraton was the most
> > > > prestigious hotel in Kuwait and you seek to cast doubt on me
by
> > > > deeming even this harmless statement to be either an
exaggeration
> > or
> > > > lie!
> > > >
> > > > The fact that nobody asked me why the Crowne Plaza was hired
does
> > not
> > > > stop me from stating why it was hired. It was hired because
it is
> > the
> > > > cheapest five star hotel in Kuwait.
> > > >
> > > > Under the nethri system lakhs of ordinary citizens are
harassed
> > > > because of their political opinions. People lose land, jobs,
legal
> > > > protection, state protection, business opportunities etc –
> just
> > > > because they oppose the ruling party and its nethri. Be honest
> > about
> > > > the condition of the country. I was not writing about my own
> > > > security – I was advising others to be careful. You don't need
> to
> > > > worry about your own security I think as long as you continue
to
> > > diligently avoid talking real politics.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I am very afraid of the possibility that a nethri might
come
> > to
> > > > power because I think it will be terrible for the country.
You on
> > the
> > > > other hand, well I have no idea what you think… But you are
> > > probably
> > > > a Nethrist…
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, what do you mean real identity? You don't even state
your
> > own
> > > > political views or your own identity but you go around
questioning
> > > > other people's views and identities. It's so typical of so
many
> > > > people nowadays who promote their own political agenda only by
> > > > attacking others – never explaining their own positions and
> > > > pretending to be neutral. Neutered is a better word than
neutral.
> > > >
> > > > 200 is indeed a small gathering. God only knows what your
idea of
> > a
> > > > big gathering is! Though I'm sure if a better hotel was chosen
> > there
> > > > would have been more room :)
> > > >
> > > > The brave General came to Kuwait on the invitation of the
Kuwait
> > Army
> > > > to discuss issues relating to the Bangladesh Army personnel
> > serving
> > > > in Kuwait. He, and the professional community here, took that
> > > > opportunity to have a dialogue. Its simple.
> > > >
> > > > Accessing the VIP lounge is not a matter of sneaking in
through
> > the
> > > > back door – it is simply a matter of getting a pass sponsored
> by
> > > > either the VIP party or the host party. I think you know how
easy
> > it
> > > > is to get a pass if you know the right people. See how many
party
> > > > fruitcakes and party dalals turn up in the VIP lounge when an
AL
> > or
> > > > BNP MP or Minister turns up :)
> > > >
> > > > I think Nizami should be tried for war crimes and would
disagree
> > with
> > > > Mr Bhuiyan if he thought otherwise. I congratulate General
Moeen
> > on
> > > > at least showing the way that Nizami, on whatever grounds,
can at
> > > > least be arrested. The Nethris never had the courage, or the
> > > > character, to do anything. The arrest of Nizami is not a ploy
to
> > > > divert attention. The public's demands for the trial of war
> > > > criminals, and their exclusion from elections, remains intact
> –
> > > even
> > > > reinvigorated after the arrest of Nizami.
> > > >
> > > > In the end I thank you for your interest in my money. I spend
it
> > at
> > > > the Crowne Plaza instead of the Sheraton, because with the
money
> > thus
> > > > saved I can buy another plane ticket to Bangladesh :)
> > > >
> > > > There are minimum standards and highest standards in politics
> –
> > > and
> > > > in hotels. Though I appreciate standards in hotels are easier
to
> > > > discuss than standards in your preferred political party :)
> > > >
> > > > I remain in good humour and hope you are too.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > >
> > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > Kuwait
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
> > > > saeedurrehman92@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur
> > > > >
> > > > > I thank you for your advisory words to Mr. Bhuiyan. I
believe he
> > > > owes it
> > > > > from you because you and him are living in the same country.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mr. Ejazur should I remind you very humbly that every 5 star
> > hotel
> > > > > (everywhere, and not only in Kuwait) has a minimum standard
and
> > > > that is
> > > > > why it is categorized as a 5 star hotel. And why are so
> > defensive?
> > > > > Nobody asked you why it was hired for the brave Gen.'s
meeting.
> > Of
> > > > > course there are many places in Kuwait which are cheaper
than
> > and
> > > > better
> > > > > than the 5 star hotel you mentioned.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry to say it Mr. Ejazur, but it is clear that you think
> > yourself
> > > > a
> > > > > celebrity. Come `n man be brave like our beloved General.
Deep
> > in
> > > > > your conscious or subconscious you still think one of the
> > nethris
> > > > will
> > > > > come to power again. And if you are identified now, you
will be
> > > > harassed
> > > > > then. Mr. Ejazur, please don't be a paranoid. Don't feel
> > > > > yourself that important. Believe you me nobody will bother
to
> > > > harass men
> > > > > like you and me for their political believes. By the way
what is
> > > > your
> > > > > real identity?
> > > > >
> > > > > Should I remind you again, Kuwait is also part of this
world.
> > Many
> > > > > Bangladeshis still live there. (I am not talking about our
> > unskilled
> > > > > brothers). Surely they are more than 200. Who picked those
200
> > and
> > > > on
> > > > > what criteria?And you call 200 a smallest gathering. Give me
> > break
> > > > man.
> > > > > And why the brave Gen. and if he is really brave, did not
been
> > to
> > > > Saudi
> > > > > Arabia or to Bahrain. We have more problems with our
expatriate
> > > > > community than in Kuwait.
> > > > >
> > > > > My intention is not to embarrass you but fact is that
nobody,
> > unless
> > > > > authorized, is allowed to enter the VIP lounge of Kuwait
> > Airport.
> > > > Not to
> > > > > talk about entering, he is not even allowed to drive on the
road
> > > > leading
> > > > > to VIP lounge. Mr. Ejazur you admitted in the past that you
do
> > > > > exaggerate but don't lie. In what category it falls,
> > exaggeration or
> > > > > a lie. Is not it clear to everybody that Mr. Bhuiyan
exaggerate
> > (or
> > > > lie)
> > > > > like you so you have come for his rescue as he does not
have any
> > > > answer
> > > > > to any of the questions.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not a supporter of Jamaat-i-Islami but I believe that
Mr.
> > > > Nizami
> > > > > should have been behind bars not for GATCO but for war
crimes.
> > Mr.
> > > > > Bhuiyan, you call Gen. a very brave man. You are a very die-
hard
> > > > > supporter of Jamaat. So you endorse that Nizami was corrupt
or
> > you
> > > > think
> > > > > it is a ploy of the brave General to divert public attention
> > and to
> > > > stop
> > > > > people calling for war criminal trials.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the end Mr.Ejazur, please don't spend your money in
Crowne
> > Plaza
> > > > > Hotel. Go to Fahaheel to Ali Baba hotel. The money thus
saved
> > can be
> > > > > used for the country.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Saeed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Mohammed Ramjan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You were indeed unfortunate to attend the reception at the
> > Crowne
> > > > > > Plaza - the General gave an excellent speech! There were
only
> > 200
> > > > > > guests as space was limited but everyone certainly had a
> > > > thoroughly
> > > > > > refreshing evening - the community spoke about the
problems
> > of our
> > > > > > labourers and the General spoke about efforts underway to
fix
> > > > some of
> > > > > > the problems. This would never have been possible under a
> > > > political
> > > > > > government because the crooks are all politically
> > protected : )
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Come on man! The Crowne Plaza is a fine hotel but it is
> > probably
> > > > the
> > > > > > cheapest five star hotel in Kuwait! Sheesh. It was hired
> > solely
> > > > > > because it was the cheapest :D I've hired the same
ballroom
> > used
> > > > for
> > > > > > Mooen U Ahmed's reception several times - because it was
the
> > > > > > cheapeast :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Be careful about giving too much personal information on
these
> > > > > > forums - there are real people who provoke you for an
answer
> > only
> > > > to
> > > > > > identify you. So that when their Nethri comes to power
they
> > will
> > > > > > harass you. I don't give a rats backside about such
challenges
> > > > but I
> > > > > > am also a reckless person too. Be careful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know one person who managed to access the VIP lounge and
> > give
> > > > their
> > > > > > regards to Moeen U Ahmed. Its not so difficult. As if the
VIP
> > > > Lounge
> > > > > > of ZIA Airport cannot be accessed! Yes Kuwait is part of
the
> > > > > > world :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Write to me directly and lets meet up! And we can have a
nice
> > > > cheap
> > > > > > meal at the Crowne Plaza Hotel and discuss who supports
which
> > > > nethri
> > > > > > on the internet but is too ashamed to actually say it : )
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have a nice day
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ezajur Rahman
> > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"
saeedurrehman92@
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Mr.Bhuiyan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think that you were unfortunate that you could not see
> > Gen.
> > > > Moin
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > Hotel Crown Plaza (again one of the most prestigious
Hotels
> > in
> > > > > > Kuwait).
> > > > > > > And, I think that the General was fortunate that he did
not
> > see
> > > > > > you. You
> > > > > > > said it was smallest public gathering. In what capacity
you
> > were
> > > > > > invited
> > > > > > > there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Again, you said that you went to VIP lounge of Kuwait
> > Airport
> > > > along
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defense Ministry
officials
> > in (or
> > > > > > on)
> > > > > > > the day of his departure. Were you from Bangladesh
Embassy
> > or
> > > > from
> > > > > > > Kuwaiti Defense Ministry? In your few minutes talk you
> > > > found "this
> > > > > > > general a man of high personalities (or personality),
> > really a
> > > > > > brave son
> > > > > > > of Bangladesh". I don't know that I should agree with
you
> > or not
> > > > > > > but I found you a man of high personalities (or
personality)
> > > > though
> > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > not sure if you are a brave son of Bangladesh. One shake
> > hand
> > > > and
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > knew everything about the General.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would like to remind you that Kuwait is also part of
the
> > world
> > > > > > and if
> > > > > > > not all some people know how the business is conducted
> > there. My
> > > > > > > brotherly advice, try to be honest don't exaggerate or
lie.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saeed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, Mohammed Ramjan
<mramjan@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fortunately or unfortunately I was invited to attend
> > General
> > > > Moin
> > > > > > U
> > > > > > > Ahmed's smallest public gathering in Crown Plaza Hotel
> > Kuwait.
> > > > Due
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > some other reason I did not attend the gathering.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the day of his departure at Kuwait Airport VIP
lounge,
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > > > present with Bangladesh Embassy and Kuwaiti Defence
ministry
> > > > > > officials.
> > > > > > > I found this general a man of high personalities,
really a
> > brave
> > > > > > son of
> > > > > > > Bangladesh. Our talk was held for few minutes, shake
hands
> > and
> > > > > > finally
> > > > > > > goodbye.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Same day I have handed over a book (binder) on "Land
use
> > > > > > Technology" a
> > > > > > > subject on development control process and planning
> > permission,
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > technology UK implementing from 1948. Unfortunately in
> > India,
> > > > > > Pakistan ,
> > > > > > > Bangladesh, no where this subject was included for
study in
> > any
> > > > > > > engineering college/university or in any polytechnic
> > Institute.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We want implementation of this valuable technology in
> > > > Bangladesh.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanking you all
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mohammed Ramjan Ali Bhuiyan
> > > > > > > > Kuwait
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To: alochona@: ezajur.rahman@: Tue, 27 May 2008
13:21:11
> > > > > > > +0000Subject: [ALOCHONA] Re: Moeen U Ahmed in Kuwait
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear Alochok ZaheedMany thanks for your call for good
> > manners.
> > > > > > Though
> > > > > > > to be honest I am probably the one most guilty of bad
> > > > manners : ) I
> > > > > > am
> > > > > > > writing to you because you have smashed the proverbial
nail
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > head
> > > > > > > by saying..."...putting forth information, references,
> > logic,
> > > > > > > anti-logic, philosophy and morals..."This is precisely
the
> > > > point -
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > > is hardly any such debate anywhere. People are so tied
up
> > in the
> > > > > > > technicalities, strategies, problems, processes, etc
that
> > > > thorough
> > > > > > > political debate on the issues (any issue) simply does
not
> > > > exist.
> > > > > > Our
> > > > > > > papers are busy collecting handouts, press releases,
> > quotations
> > > > and
> > > > > > > numbers. Our editors and tv pundits are busy pondering
the
> > > > > > mechanisms of
> > > > > > > democracy and not the meaning of democracy. And thats
about
> > > > > > it.WHERE ARE
> > > > > > > THE GREAT NATIONAL DEBATES ON HEALTHCARE, EDUCATION,
> > > > ENVIRONMENT,
> > > > > > LOCAL
> > > > > > > GOVERNMENT AND THE ROLE OF ISLAM IN A MODERN BANGLADESH?
> > Sure
> > > > > > there's a
> > > > > > > debate on food prices but that debate happened because
there
> > > > was no
> > > > > > > choice.Go to any BNP and AL meeting and talk to them
about
> > any
> > > > of
> > > > > > these
> > > > > > > subjects. Some will look bewildered, some will get angry
> > > > because you
> > > > > > > didn't mention the 'nethri' and some will think you are
a
> > > > showoff
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > abroad.But get back to the fight for power and everyone
is
> > an
> > > > > > expert!
> > > > > > > It's like we're all stuck in a neverending third rate
Hindi
> > > > daytime
> > > > > > soap
> > > > > > > opera!The Army is indeed the darwan. The electorate is
the
> > > > > > landlord. The
> > > > > > > politcial parties are the tenants. The darwan has indeed
> > taken
> > > > over
> > > > > > > because the tenants are wrecking the house and the
landlord
> > is
> > > > fed
> > > > > > up.
> > > > > > > The darwan broke some flashy vases and ruined some
precious
> > > > > > paintings -
> > > > > > > but the house itself was saved. As with all jonogonists,
> > fancy
> > > > talk
> > > > > > > about the lower classes ultimately gave way to scornful
> > disdain
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > lowly darwan!And personal attacks are all part of the
fun -
> > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > measure of how effective one is :) Best wishesEzajur
> > > > RahmanKuwait---
> > > > > > In
> > > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Zaheed Naser zaheed_naser@
> > wrote:>>
> > > > Dear
> > > > > > > Alochok,> > We all support a party, group or ideology
one
> > way or
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > > and speak for them in a direct or subtle way and dear
Ejajur
> > > > > > obviously
> > > > > > > speaks for CTG and definitely is not the best friend of
the
> > two
> > > > > > begums!
> > > > > > > Sometimes I agree with him, sometimes, I donft,
> whichever,
> > > I
> > > > > read
> > > > > > > his writings with care and attention obviously because
of
> > the
> > > > fact
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > he knows how to dish it out well (and does he write well
> > when
> > > > he is
> > > > > > > pissed off J). My attempt here is to draw attention to
the
> > fact
> > > > > > that we
> > > > > > > shouldnft get personal (licking and all that
> phrases....)
> > > when
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > are indulging in an argument, we have the right to speak
> > for any
> > > > > > party
> > > > > > > and we can do that by putting forth information,
references,
> > > > logic,
> > > > > > > anti-logic, philosophy and morals and anything except
> > stooping
> > > > down
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the low level of attacking any Alochok personally with
> > indecent
> > > > > > words! >
> > > > > > > > Regards,> Zaheed> > > Sajjad Hossain shossain456@
wrote:>
> > Do
> > > > not
> > > > > > wash
> > > > > > > your hands. Lick it for the rest of your life. Did you
jump
> > on
> > > > his
> > > > > > feet?
> > > > > > > Moeen U Ahmed is a "Daroan" of the Country. When
a "Daroan"
> > > > takes
> > > > > > over
> > > > > > > the house, then everything collapses. > > SH> Toronto> >
> > ezajur
> > > > > > > ezajur.rahman@ wrote:> Khaleda Zia became BNP leader
and PM
> > > > because
> > > > > > she
> > > > > > > is the wife of Ziaur > Rahman. BNP would have broken
into
> > > > various
> > > > > > groups
> > > > > > > if the symbolism of > Khaleda was absent. Khaleda
> > maintained her
> > > > > > > position by a network of > patronage, corruption and the
> > > > ruthless
> > > > > > > removal of all internal > opposition.> > Hasina Wajed
> > became AL
> > > > > > leader
> > > > > > > and PM because she is the daughter of > Sheikh Mujib. AL
> > would
> > > > have
> > > > > > > broken into various groups if the > symbolism of Hasina
was
> > > > absent.
> > > > > > > Hasina maintained her postion by a > network of
patronage,
> > > > > > corruption
> > > > > > > and the ruthless removal of all > internal opposition.>
>
> > Tell
> > > > it
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > way it is man Enot the way it makes your patriotic ego
> >
> > > feel
> > > > > > > good.> > Where was I asking you to worship me or Moeen?
> You
> > > > don't
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > the guts or the ability to write 20 strong lines >
against
> > > > Hasina or
> > > > > > > Khaleda for anything.> And that's why, in reality, you
do
> > > > worship
> > > > > > them.>
> > > > > > > > I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the man
who
> > went
> > > > > > after >
> > > > > > > Nizami. I am indeed privileged to shake the hand of the
man
> > who
> > > > > > went >
> > > > > > > after Salauddin Qader Chowdhury. But I don't expect you
to
> > > > > > understand >
> > > > > > > that. Please continue with the pechali, bhejali rubbish
that
> > > > has >
> > > > > > > ruined our country.> > The same ladies you admire were
> > crazy to
> > > > give
> > > > > > > malas to Dr Yunus when > he got the Nobel Prize. But
when he
> > > > dared
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > enter politics they > hurled abuse at him like the
selfish
> > > > > > hypocrites
> > > > > > > they are. Even though > as a citizen he is perfectly
> > entitled to
> > > > > > enter
> > > > > > > politics. Becasue these Royal Begums can't stand anyone
> > else in
> > > > > > their
> > > > > > > Kingdom.> > Don't give me that jonogonist mumbo jumbo.
> > That's
> > > > for
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Royal > Khaleda and Royal Hasina to say during their
> > > > campaigns.> > I
> > > > > > > haven't lost my mind. I just see that something is
better
> > than >
> > > > > > > nothing.> > Are you looking forward to the election man
and
> > > > making
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > money if > Hasina and Khaleda become PM? I am! If
Hasina and
> > > > Khaleda
> > > > > > > become PM > I'm going to make some real money. Deshi
style!
> > > > Talk the
> > > > > > > jonogon talk > and fill my pockets with the nation's
money
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > > time.> > Maybe I could write a book: HOW TO MAKE MONEY
WITH
> > AL
> > > > AND
> > > > > > BNP
> > > > > > > EFOR > DUMMIES.> > Ezajur Rahman> Kuwait> > --- In
> > > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Sajjad Hossain <shossain456@>
>
> > > > wrote:>
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > Khaleda Zia became Prime Minister of Bangladesh on her
own
> > > > credit >
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > elected by the people. She was not there by virtue of
the
> > > > mighty >
> > > > > > gun.
> > > > > > > 99% of Bangladeshis belong to lower-middle or middle
class.
> > To >
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > > class Mr Ezajur belong to? To what class Gen Moen Uddin
> > Ahmed >
> > > > > > belong
> > > > > > > to? Royal class? Are you asking us to worship you?
Sorry I
> > am >
> > > > not
> > > > > > > worshiping Hasina or Khaleda. Both of them are leading
two
> > > > large >
> > > > > > > political parties for more than two decades. They posses
> > strong
> > > > >
> > > > > > > leadership qualities. Your Gen Moen has tried to form
one
> > > > political
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > party with the help of C grade politicians and Nobel
Prize
> > > > winner
> > > > > > but >
> > > > > > > has failed to even kick off.> > > > These army boot
lickers
> > have
> > > > > > lost
> > > > > > > their minds.> > > > ezajur <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> >
Dear
> > > > > > Alochoks> > >
> > > > > > > > Or perhaps I should prefer the State visit of Khaleda
to
> > > > Kuwait a
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > couple of years ago. Yes, perhaps her visit was more
> > dignified
> > > > than
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the visit of Moeen U Ahmed. > > > > She wanted to buy
some
> > > > > > jewellery.
> > > > > > > She was advised that the finest > > jewellers in Kuwait
> > would
> > > > > > happily
> > > > > > > take a wide selection of pieces > to > > her hotel. She
was
> > > > advised
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > go to a prestigious location. But she > > took the
advice of
> > > > some
> > > > > > idiots
> > > > > > > and went to one of the worst gold > > markets in
Kuwait. As
> > she
> > > > > > walked
> > > > > > > through the shops onlookers were > > bemused by her
> > entourage.
> > > > Who
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > she? Why is she here? The market > > that seldom saw an
> > upper
> > > > middle
> > > > > > > class Indian was now graced by the > > Prime Minister of
> > > > > > Bangladesh. Of
> > > > > > > course our jonogonists will say > she went to the shops
of
> > the
> > > > > > common
> > > > > > > man. But of course she bought > nothing > > there and in
> > the end
> > > > > > went to
> > > > > > > an exclusive shop and purchased a few > > trinkets and
> > baubles -
> > > > > > costing
> > > > > > > well beyond the dreams of the common > > man. Any idea
how
> > much
> > > > she
> > > > > > > spent?> > > > Good old Bangladeshi democracy.> > > >
It's a
> > > > > > slapstick
> > > > > > > comedy.> > > > Regards> > > > Ezajur Rahman> > Kuwait>
> >
> > > ---
> > > > In
> > > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur" <ezajur.rahman@>
wrote:>
> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > Dear Alochoks> > > > > > On the other hand perhaps I am
> > wrong.
> > > > > > Perhaps I
> > > > > > > should prefer > > Hasina > > > to Moeen U Ahmed.
Perhaps I
> > > > should
> > > > > > prefer
> > > > > > > her State visit to > Kuwait > > > back in 2000. The
> > businessmen
> > > > of
> > > > > > AL
> > > > > > > held a reception for her in > the > > > Grand Ballroom
of
> > the
> > > > > > Sheraton
> > > > > > > Hotel. Perhaps I should be proud > of > > > when the
Foreign
> > > > > > Minister,
> > > > > > > Abdus Samad Azad, declared that the > > > audience
should
> > shout
> > > > `Joy
> > > > > > > Bangla' in honour of The Nethri. And > as > > > the
> > chandeliers
> > > > > > shook to
> > > > > > > the refrain of a 800 idiots chanting Joy > > > Bangla
the
> > front
> > > > > > rows of
> > > > > > > VIPs, Ambassadors, MPs and Ministers > > quickly > > >
and
> > > > quietly
> > > > > > > escaped through the side doors. And the receptionists >
>
> > and >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > security men ran around the hotel like headless
chickens.
> > And >
> > > > > > other >
> > > > > > > > > guests thought some terrorists had attacked. And
like a
> > > > > > brilliant >
> > > > > > > > > Foreign Minister he turned to one side of the crowd
and
> > > > raising
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > his > > > hand urged them to shout even louder because
he
> > could
> > > > not
> > > > > > hear
> > > > > > > > > them. > > > And Hasina just smiled with happiness.>
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The
> > > > > > > Sheraton Hotel, the oldest and most prestigious hotel
in > >
> > > > > > Kuwait, > >
> > > > > > > > entwined with the very history of Kuwait itself,
witness
> > to
> > > > the >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > graciousness of a 1,000 stately receptions over the
decades,
> > > > had > >
> > > > > > > just > > > seen its most ungracious day.> > > > > > But
> > then who
> > > > > > cares
> > > > > > > that the rest of Kuwait just thought:> > > > > > What
else
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > > > expect
> > > > > > > from the Prime Minister and Foreign > > Minister > > >
of
> > the
> > > > > > > cleanersElt;BR>> > > > > Regards> > > > > > Ezajur
> Rahman>
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Kuwait > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
> > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
> > > > > > > <ezajur.rahman@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Saeed Bhai>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well I was just saying that I was privileged to shake
his
> > hand >
> > > > > > and> >
> > > > > > > > > wish him well. Pretty modest compared to what you
might
> > be
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > thinking> > > > for Hasina or Khaleda : )> > > > > > >
> He
> > is
> > > > > > certainly
> > > > > > > not one of the greatest personalities on> > > > earth
but
> > > > > > definitely one
> > > > > > > of the bravest in Bangladesh.> > > > > > > > The future
> > does not
> > > > > > belong
> > > > > > > to him or me. But it belongs to all > of > > us> > > >
who
> > want
> > > > a
> > > > > > > Bangladesh without Hasina and Khaleda and all that > >
they
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > represent. And in spite of all the mistakes the
possibilty
> > of >
> > > > > > that > >
> > > > > > > > future exists only because of the courage of the CTG.
Not
> > > > because
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > of > > > anyone else or anything else.> > > > > > > >
What
> > is
> > > > this
> > > > > > apple
> > > > > > > polishing you speak of? What do you know > about> > > >
real
> > > > apple
> > > > > > > polishing? Look at what our people do with Hasina and>
> > >
> > > > > > Khaleda -
> > > > > > > the puja, the worshipping, the polishing, the >
malishing,>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > thel dhalano, the chamchagiri.. It is record breaking!
We >
> > >
> > > > > > could> > >
> > > > > > > > turn it into an export industry! But you won't mention
> > that >
> > > > > > will > >
> > > > > > > > you.> > > > That's too uncomfortable. Far easier to
talk
> > > > about me
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > my> > > > handshake.> > > > > > > > And what is this
pity
> > you
> > > > feel?
> > > > > > What
> > > > > > > do you know about real > pity?> > > > Where is your pity
> > for our
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > > who are made fools of by> > > > politicians year after
year
> > > > with lie
> > > > > > > after lie? Where is your > pity> > > > for a democracy
where
> > > > > > democracy
> > > > > > > ONLY means that political > > operatives> > > > are
allowed
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > > > anything they want? Where is your pity for a> > > >
> > democracy
> > > > where
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > you challenge the leader of your party your > > house>
> > >
> > > > gets
> > > > > > burned
> > > > > > > down? You won't speak of such uncomfortable truths. > >
> > Far> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > easier to talk about me wishing the General well.> > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > You
> > > > > > > should wish him well too. For because of him the voter >
> > rolls
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > will> > > > be more accurate than ever before. The
voting
> > booths
> > > > > > will be
> > > > > > > > more> > > > secure than ever before. The vote count
will
> > be
> > > > more
> > > > > > > legitimate > > than> > > > ever before. The voters will
be
> > safer
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > > every before. Your > > dream> > > > will come true - you
> > will
> > > > have
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > free and fair election > between> > > > corrupt
parties.> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't dream of a future where unelected,
unaccountable >
> > > > > > officials> >
> > > > > > > > > are forced to act because of the stupidity of
elected >
> > >
> > > > > > > politicians. I> > > > dream of a future where AL and BNP
> > behave
> > > > like
> > > > > > > proper democratic> > > > parties in a modern Bangladesh.
> > And the
> > > > > > CTG has
> > > > > > > done more to > > achieve> > > > that than the Central
> > > > Committees of
> > > > > > AL
> > > > > > > or BNP. People who slam > the> > > > CTG and claim to be
> > neutral
> > > > > > never
> > > > > > > ever talk about AL and BNP. > If > > > they> > > > did
then
> > they
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > be really making a difference.> > > > > > > > Look at
our
> > > > country.
> > > > > > Be
> > > > > > > honest. We have far more to pity than > > Moeen> > > >
and
> > > > > > Fakhruddin
> > > > > > > and dreamers like me.> > > > > > > > By the way - who
do you
> > > > think I
> > > > > > > should vote for? Hasina or > > Khaleda?> > > > Why?
> > Convince me
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > insulting me : )> > > > > > > > Best wishes> > > > > >
> >
> > > > Ezajur
> > > > > > > Rahman> > > > Kuwait> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "saeedurrehman92"> > > >
> > > > > > <saeedurrehman92@>
> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Mr. Ejazur> > >
> >>
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thousand and one congratulations on your one of the
> > biggest> >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > achievements. I hope you have not washed your hands
after >
> > >
> > > > > > shaking >
> > > > > > > > > it> > > > > with Gen. Moeen's hand. You must
preserve
> > the
> > > > scent
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > him on > > > your> > > > > hands. The future definitely
> > belongs
> > > > to
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > because you > shaked > > > hands> > > > > with one the
> > greatest
> > > > > > > personality on earth.> > > > >> > > > > I really don't
feel
> > bad
> > > > > > feel bad
> > > > > > > when I read a writing like > > this.> > > > Nice> > > >
>
> > piece
> > > > of
> > > > > > apple
> > > > > > > polishing. I, however, feel pity for a nation > in> > >
>
> > > > which> >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > people like this exists.> > > > >> > > > > Saeed> > > >
>>
> > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In alochona@yahoogroups.com, "ezajur"
> > <ezajur.rahman@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Alochoks> > > > > >>
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > Yesterday I had the privilege and the honour of shaking
the
> > > >
> > > > > > hand> >
> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed. He is on an
> > official
> > > > visit
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > Kuwait.> > > > Whilst> > > > > > he was largely
surrounded
> > by
> > > > > > people who
> > > > > > > supported the CTG > and > > > who> > > > > > were
showering
> > him
> > > > with
> > > > > > > their views I got the opportunity on> > > > behalf> > >
> >
> > >
> > > > of all
> > > > > > > supporters of the CTG to wish him good health, long > >
> > life> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and>
> > > > > > > > > > > > continued success. He reiterated that the
nation
> > > > needed
> > > > > > an> >
> > > > > > > > > election> > > > > > in December 2008.> > > > > >> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > Moeen U
> > > > > > > Ahmed and Dr Fakhruddin are great men and I remain> > >
>
> > > > > > defiantly> > >
> > > > > > > > > > supportive. Becasue of such men we know that
change
> > is > >
> > > > > > > possible.> > > > > > Because of such men even
politicians
> > now
> > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > that > change > > is> > > > > > possible. That change,
so
> > > > > > desperately
> > > > > > > needed, must finally > be> > > > decided> > > > > > by
our
> > > > > > politicians.
> > > > > > > But there is no doubt that it is these > > men > > >
who> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > threw the ball back in the pitch. Lets all pray that
the >
> > > > teams> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > play> > > > > > sincerely.> > > > > >> > > > > > And for
> > those
> > > > who
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > that standing next to Hasina or > > Khaleda> > > > is
a> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > greater privilege than shaking the hand of Dr Yunus,
Dr> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > Fakhruddin or> > > > > > General Moeen U Ahmed - even if
> > your
> > > > dreams
> > > > > > > come true, the > > > future> > > > > > still does not
> > belong to
> > > > > > you.> >
> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > >> > > > > > Ezajur
> > Rahman>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kuwait> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ---
In
> > > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com, Faruque Alamgir > >
> > faruquealamgir@>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > IDIOTS ALWAYS THNKS
THEM
> > AS THE
> > > > > > > GREATEST INTELIGENT SO > THE > > > CASE> > > > > > WITH
OUR
> > > > > > > FRIEND....................................> > > > > >
>> >
> > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Faruque Alamgir> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Salahuddin
Ayubi
> > > > > > s_ayubi786@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: Fakahruddin's speech> > > > > > was an
> > > > excellent
> > > > > > one.
> > > > > > > Why nitwits like yourself criticise > him > > is> > > >
> >
> > > > beyond
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > comprehension. Instead of using a very famous > man's >
> >
> > > > name> >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > as your mask why dont you appear in your own name.
You
> > are>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > disgracing a great man. You with your level of
> > intelligence >
> > > > >
> > > > > > will>
> > > > > > > > > > > > never reach anywhere near what the great man
> > achieved
> > > > in
> > > > > > his>
> > > > > > > > > > > > lifetime. Stop bullshitting and misguiding
> > people. I
> > > > do
> > > > > > not >
> > > > > > > > feel> > > > > > that the country is safe in the hands
of
> > our
> > > > kind
> > > > > > of >
> > > > > > > > > politicians,> > > > > > most of whom do not have the
> > basic
> > > > > > education
> > > > > > > behind them. > Era> > > > shobai> > > > > > foot pather
> > neta.
> > > > bhalo
> > > > > > > kichu bojhar ba korar shamortho eder> > > > > > akebarei
> > nei.>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > Salahuddin Ayubi> > > > > > >> > > > >
>
> > > ---
> > > > On
> > > > > > Tue,
> > > > > > > 5/13/08, mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@ > > >
wrote:>
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mahathir of bd wouldbemahathirofbd@>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Subject: [Dahuk]: Thanks Fakhruddin - you have made us
> >
> > > > laugh >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > by> > > > > > your sermon> > > > > > > To:
> > > > > > tritiomatra@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > chottala@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
khabor@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > dahuk@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
vinnomot@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > > > > alochona@yahoogroups.com,> > > > > >
> > > > > > notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:11 AM> > > > >
>
> > >> >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > মঈনà§E¦°>
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > à¦E¦°> >
> > > > > > > > > > লà§E¦•à¦šà¦¾à¦°> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> ছাà§Eলà§E¦œà§à§œà¦¬à§E¦¤à§à¦¤à¦¿
> > > > > > > না> > > > > করার> > > > > >
> জনà§à¦¯
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> > >
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